Re: Remove me!

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Actually, I didnt attack your intentions and character

first. The only attack or negative thing i said was

that you probably joined this forum because you saw

the word " sex " -- at the END of my email. Now i am

related to Karl Rove?? That's pretty funny, who is

attacking whom here? You started your email by

threatning to sue if you werent removed, i think that

pretty much sums up your intent--you state it

yourself!!! You would go to THAT much trouble, when on

our group home page REMOVING YOURSELF is just a click

away.

On this site there are so many discussions on

hormome replacement therapy, herbal treatments,

medical tests and results, SO much more than just

complaining. From personal experience AND LEGAL, most

of us here have been treated like head cases by

doctors for even suggesting we have anything wrong or

that SSRI's are the cause. I took paxil for a year and

low and behold, i couldnt even achieve orgasm from

masturbation!! I think that comes under the category

of SEVERE. My symptoms diminished after cessitation,

only to return after a few years on Ultracet, which i

would have NEVER taken if i had known it affected

serotonin and is essentially an SSRI. Its not in my

head that it is difficult to orgasm, i have diminised

libido and less feeling in my vagina.I have been duped

by the same type of med twice.

I think you are judgemental and instead of helping

you are only hurting. You CLAIM to have gotten better,

yet you arent sharing what supplements, therapies etc

to get there--essentially you are living up to your

own complaint--we are here to share experiences and

treatments--you only complain about complaining and

cast doubt on the validity of the site. So exactly

what are you saying in your statement that " virtually

only those people with sexual side effects go to this

website " etc. etc., WHO EXACTLY do you think this is

for?? I think its pretty darn clear on the

introductory page what this site is about. This is not

the site for cheerleaders for SSRI's, pharmaceutical

companies have their own sites for that--to tout their

" wonderful " medicine.

Your first post calls this site " bizarre " and then

you cast doubt on the validity of our claims of

dysfunction, how is that not equally " hurtful " ??

Vornan does a wonderful job of moderation here--it

is a balance between " complaints " and " suggestions "

for treatments and remedies. The " complaint " is not

being taken seriously enough by the medical field,

therefore there is no easy or accepted standard

medical treatment for our malady. No one would pick

sexual dysfunction as a side effect, and no one likes

to be treated like they are " imagining things " when

their sex life goes from wonderful to non-existant.

Let me take a second to let you know something

disturbing. When i withdrew from Paxil (years ago), i

had horrible side effects from the abrupt

cessitation--i went to the doctor several times, only

to have him dismiss my complaints and say " there are

no withdrawal effects from SSRI's " . NOW, after years,

it is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that discontinuation of

Paxil has to go slowly as to not cause the very

withdrawal effects i had complained about. My point is

this: we are guinea pigs taking things that doctors

DONT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT, and the sexual side

effects will eventually be recognized, just like

abrupt withdrawal finally got " admitted " . This site

is specifically good for that recognition--that if we

collectively " complain " we might actually be taken

seriously-- eventually. The pharmaceutical companies

want to sweep this kind of thing under the rug for as

long as possible--to get as many pills sold as

possible before admitting the negative effects and the

word getting out.

Everyone's experience is unique here, and just

because you had a rosy outcome does not give you the

right to threaten us, call us bizarre, and discount

the relevance of OUR INDIVIDUAL experiences. We dont

need more people like you. Good for you that you are

OK now, either share your miraculous recovery or QUIT

COMPLAINING about COMPLAINING and direct yourself

immediately to the group page and REMOVE YOURSELF.

GOOD RIDDANCE. GOODBYE.

Karl Rove. Nice. I checked with my mom, and she is

pretty much sure we arent related to him. Too bad,

maybe if he took Paxil, he might join here and get

some momentum going, using all that shady, horrible

political clout to get us some recognition.

lisa

--- Philip wrote:

> Are you any relation to Karl Rove? The first thing

> that you do is attack my intentions, my character.

> I was pointing out that since virtually only those

> people with sexual side effects go to this website,

> it can be misleading, implying that this problem is

> predominate. Well, according to the medical data I

> read it is. But the sexual side effects are normally

> temporary and not severe. That distinction is not

> usually clearly pointed out by the moderator. Nor

> is it pointed out enough that there are many causes

> for this disorder, whether one is on an SSRI or not.

> I felt discouraged when I subscribed to the website

> because I had to take one of the newer SSRIs and was

> having some sexual dsyfunction. The website seems

> to be a place to vent...not enough discussion or

> direction from the moderator is given to remedies,

> only complaining about SSRIs. It's all testimony

> not evidence and it is certainly not directing

> people to any meaningful remedies. I soon realized

> that the

> SSRI that I am taking was not essentially the cause

> or even a likely contributor to my problem. With

> the help of a medical specialist, who deals with

> complimentary medicine--using conventional and

> unconventional remedies, including nutrition--my

> disorder improved significantly, even better than

> before. I hope that the format for this site

> becomes more productive. Many people are hurting.

>

>

>

>

>

> lisa hallford wrote:

> why did you sign on in the first place??

> If everyone

> that took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS

> of

> people on this forum. That is not the case. As with

> all medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are

> having

> side effects which may or may not include PSSD.

> There

> is nothing bizarre about trying to understand and

> fix

> these side effects. If you do not share this

> particular problem, this group is not for you and

> you

> need to go away. You probably signed up for every

> group with the word " sex " in it, so do us all a

> favor

> and REMOVE YOURSELF. now go.

>

> --- Philip wrote:

>

> > I have requested before for you to take me off

> your

> > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is

> > not done with confirmation from you I will report

> it

> > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too

> > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of

> SSRI

> > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no

> > return of sexual capacity when off the meds.

> >

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