Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Remove yourself. You signed on and it's not my job. And you can report me to whoever the hell you want - it's good publicity. Vornan > > I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 well I guess you are stuck in a bizarro world forever. Youll never get out. lolz.... > > > > I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but > you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I > will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have > serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off > the meds. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 That sounds just like something a pharmaceutical rep would say Mr. , assuming that is your real name... By the way, not all people I have talked to have persistent side-effects after discontinuing medication. And I'm not advocating that SSRI's be banned, there are quite a few people who could really use them despite the possible side effect. But I do know this, the public has a RIGHT to know the TRUE likelihood of lingering side-effects when taking ANY medication. I hope you sleep well at night knowing you sell products to people who don't really need them and then try to cover up the true nature of the side-effects your products cause Mr. . Philip wrote: I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 why did you sign on in the first place?? If everyone that took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS of people on this forum. That is not the case. As with all medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are having side effects which may or may not include PSSD. There is nothing bizarre about trying to understand and fix these side effects. If you do not share this particular problem, this group is not for you and you need to go away. You probably signed up for every group with the word " sex " in it, so do us all a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF. now go. --- Philip wrote: > I have requested before for you to take me off your > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is > not done with confirmation from you I will report it > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no > return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Thankyou for removing my subscription....as for my spouse 10 yrs. Married & I, we are fine + the particular SSRNI'S & DOD. Med's we absorb is in fact a American success story. we only initiated the group request to inquire @ the (novice) side effects experienced at the onset. Please spare me the vindictive type in reference to preversions or Pornography, as for us...we have no heart desire for a whiner's group full of complainers. if americans took diligent care of the body, in sound orthomolecular and nanotechnology available; the group you lead or organize would be less preverted in many typing mails , allready controled by authoritys. I have no need to wine @ all the synthetic pyschotropic perscribed to some of your group mailings. in conclusion, thanks for the mailing, and perhaps you should consider not second guessing your own data, that clearly shows some unclean or inmature content! i would strongly suggest you leave my box alone, unless you have a larger formal apology to offer. oh, & did you know....that when group members request to be removed from subscription, uh multiple attempts were made; that your group administration/moderators should could be held accountable by Dept. of justice for not removing the offensive mailings. thankyou for your time, Mr V lisa hallford wrote: why did you sign on in the first place?? If everyonethat took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS ofpeople on this forum. That is not the case. As withall medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are havingside effects which may or may not include PSSD. Thereis nothing bizarre about trying to understand and fixthese side effects. If you do not share thisparticular problem, this group is not for you and youneed to go away. You probably signed up for everygroup with the word "sex" in it, so do us all a favorand REMOVE YOURSELF. now go.--- Philip <phlp_anthony> wrote:> I have requested before for you to take me off your> mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is> not done with confirmation from you I will report it> to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too> bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI> recipients have serious sexual side effects and no> return of sexual capacity when off the meds.> > ---------------------------------> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mailbeta.__________________________________________________________Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Huh? Man, I can tell you that your problems are much more serious than any group could help you with. My advice: up the dosage and good luck. V > > > I have requested before for you to take me off your > > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is > > not done with confirmation from you I will report it > > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI > > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no > > return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > > __________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Great, another drug company shill trying to make drugs sound like the solution to everyone's problems. I hope you make a lot of money downplaying other people's misery. Bastard. Chris"Mr. Leaf" wrote: Thankyou for removing my subscription....as for my spouse 10 yrs. Married & I, we are fine + the particular SSRNI'S & DOD. Med's we absorb is in fact a American success story. we only initiated the group request to inquire @ the (novice) side effects experienced at the onset. Please spare me the vindictive type in reference to preversions or Pornography, as for us...we have no heart desire for a whiner's group full of complainers. if americans took diligent care of the body, in sound orthomolecular and nanotechnology available; the group you lead or organize would be less preverted in many typing mails , allready controled by authoritys. I have no need to wine @ all the synthetic pyschotropic perscribed to some of your group mailings. in conclusion, thanks for the mailing, and perhaps you should consider not second guessing your own data, that clearly shows some unclean or inmature content! i would strongly suggest you leave my box alone, unless you have a larger formal apology to offer. oh, & did you know....that when group members request to be removed from subscription, uh multiple attempts were made; that your group administration/moderators should could be held accountable by Dept. of justice for not removing the offensive mailings. thankyou for your time, Mr V lisa hallford <lisamacuser> wrote: why did you sign on in the first place?? If everyonethat took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS ofpeople on this forum. That is not the case. As withall medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are havingside effects which may or may not include PSSD. Thereis nothing bizarre about trying to understand and fixthese side effects. If you do not share thisparticular problem, this group is not for you and youneed to go away. You probably signed up for everygroup with the word "sex" in it, so do us all a favorand REMOVE YOURSELF. now go.--- Philip <phlp_anthony> wrote:> I have requested before for you to take me off your> mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is> not done with confirmation from you I will report it> to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too> bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI> recipients have serious sexual side effects and no> return of sexual capacity when off the meds.> > ---------------------------------> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mailbeta.__________________________________________________________Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 This is without a doubt one of the most entertaining "typing mails" I've ever read. Please don't leave the group you crazy bastard! I could really use the laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Mr. Vornan Sir, I too wishing to be removed from subscription. I have no heart desire for you and authorities to assault my box with preverted typing mails! I plan on taking diligent care of the body, in sound orthomolecular and nanotechnolgy available. Perhaps if you would follow some of the synthetic psychotropic prescribed to some of your group mailings there would be no need for vindictive, unclean and immature type in reference to perversions and Pornography! I bet you never thought about that while discussing with administrators and moderators, huh? But let me just say thanks for the mailing and I will be contacting Dept. of Justice in regard to offensive typing mails and multiple attempts of non-removing of subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Yes...and a big family joy to you and everyone on the last frontier! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 That post reminds me of the many nonsensical spam messages I get daily at work! Now I know who's been writing them! Damn you! Luther > > > I have requested before for you to take me off your > > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is > > not done with confirmation from you I will report it > > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI > > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no > > return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > > __________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 SOMEHOW RAXCO STATES YOUR E-MAIL GROUP IS RESPONDIND/ DELIVERING VIRUS ATTACHED MAILS..NOT ME ZONE-ALARMI-SUITE BETA 7X-VISTA, SORRY FOLKS IT SCANS DAILY TIMES 3, NO RAW DATA INFEST HERE,....NEED PROOF I CAN REPORT A W-DOC...WHATEVERlightsoutluther wrote: That post reminds me of the many nonsensical spam messages I get daily at work! Now I know who's been writing them! Damn you!Luther> > > I have requested before for you to take me off your> > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is> > not done with confirmation from you I will report it> > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too> > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI> > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no> > return of sexual capacity when off the meds.> > > > ---------------------------------> > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail> beta.> > __________________________________________________________> Cheap talk?> Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.> http://voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 HEY, I ALWAYS HAVE A POSITIVE LIGHT RESERVED FOR HEARTS THAT POUND LIKE YOURS...A BIG FAMILY JOY TO YOU FROM THE LAST FRONTIER! SUCCESSSSS LUV YA PEOPLE11 HOPE ALL IS WELLL HOPE THESE REPORTS JUST GO AWAY.... paul821nj@... wrote: This is without a doubt one of the most entertaining "typing mails" I've ever read. Please don't leave the group you crazy bastard! I could really use the laughs. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 ....I think he lives in Alaska :-) LOL > > Yes...and a big family joy to you and everyone on the last frontier! ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Haha...I was thinking more along the lines of outer space! Or perhaps the "last frontier" of sanity. I bet everyone wishes they had a heart that pounds like mine!? This guy is priceless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 When are people going to see that the recognition we ve been after is on the horizon? Havent we been through enough hurt and indifference without turning on each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I think if somebody's gonna come on here and start dishing out shit and saying that PSSD doesn't exist they should be prepared to take some flack in return. In my view they are no better that the unscrupulous low-life MDs that wreck people's lives with this shit. Anyway, I still think PSSD is quite a way from true recognition by the mainstream medical community: probably a couple of years away. As much as I don't like to see people blowing their own trumpet, I know that when it is finnaly recognized I will have done more than anyone else to make that happen. Even if someone else comes along and takes credit for bringing PSSD to full attention, I know what I did, and I think that gives me a right to defend myself from hecklers. Vornan -- In SSRIsex , " kevinbennett23us " wrote: > > > > When are people going to see that the recognition we ve been after is > on the horizon? Havent we been through enough hurt and indifference > without turning on each other? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 You start out by assuming that I am a pharmaceutical rep.--I am not, I have nothing to do with such companies--then you follow with a sanctimonious, "I hope you sleep well...knowing you sell..." This is illogical, unfounded...sounds like a fanatic. Look, I do not dispute the overuse of SSRIs and that they have side effects, even serious side effects for some. I personally do not like SSRIs as a first choice for therapy. I agree that these companies, at times, hide unfavorable results, over charge, etc, as is indicated by reputable sources, such as the Washiongton Post, The American Journal for Medicine, the Life Extension Foundation, etc--note that I try back up my observations. But science is science. There is sufficient data from independent researchers and watchdog groups that indicate that the vast majority of recipients of current generation SSRIs and many taking any SSRI, do not suffer the negative sexual side effects (mild to moderate to severe, temporary or permanent) as your site implies. I notice that you do not address the value of testimonials as an unreliable source of proof for the validity of overall claims of the SSRIs or any product. I have great emphathy for all those who write in with their maladies. I believe they are telling the truth. But there are many causes for sexual disorders, even with people taking SSRIs...even when the sexual side effects begin after the use of SSRIs. Your site is a place where people go to for insight, for cures possibly and I would emphasize that. And I would also remind people that the nature of your site is to mostly, if not virtually, draw people who are suffering from sexual side effects, giving the impression that this is what the majority of SSRI users experience. It is not likley that many, if any, of those who do not suffer the sexual side effects send messages to your website. And I bet that there are many, as the aforementioned sources/data indicate. By all means recognize that some people have serious side effects including sexual from SSRIs and help them understand that the causes are likley complex--age, psychological, hormonal, sensativity for some to some of the SSRIs, etc. Do not simply blast all the medicines, instead emphasize remedies and provide the "truth" with scientific proof that a particluar SSRI really does contribute primarily to some unfortunate person's sexual disorder. Your site gave me little comfort, when I was looking for remedies for diminishing virility that I thought, incorrectly, was likely due to an SSRI. I was not distracted by the easy focus on SSRIs. I, age 57, returned to normaI, even improved, sexual capacity by looking for remedies with medical and nutrional specialists. I would advise people to go a blog or website that is moderated by medical experts on sexual disorders. This site simply list complaints. I found help from the Life Extension Foundation for example (no, I do not work for them) and other such sites. Now, write this and let's help people. That sounds just like something a pharmaceutical rep would say Mr. , assuming that is your real name... By the way, not all people I have talked to have persistent side-effects after discontinuing medication. And I'm not advocating that SSRI's be banned, there are quite a few people who could really use them despite the possible side effect. But I do know this, the public has a RIGHT to know the TRUE likelihood of lingering side-effects when taking ANY medication. I hope you sleep well at night knowing you sell products to people who don't really need them and then try to cover up the true nature of the side-effects your products cause Mr. . Philip <phlp_anthony> wrote: I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Yes, no one has done even nearly as much as you have to make PSSD known Vornan.Despite who ever tries to claim credit for it,anyone who ever mentions it to me i will make that very clear to. It was only when armed with your paper that i first was properly taken seriously at medical appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Are you any relation to Karl Rove? The first thing that you do is attack my intentions, my character. I was pointing out that since virtually only those people with sexual side effects go to this website, it can be misleading, implying that this problem is predominate. Well, according to the medical data I read it is. But the sexual side effects are normally temporary and not severe. That distinction is not usually clearly pointed out by the moderator. Nor is it pointed out enough that there are many causes for this disorder, whether one is on an SSRI or not. I felt discouraged when I subscribed to the website because I had to take one of the newer SSRIs and was having some sexual dsyfunction. The website seems to be a place to vent...not enough discussion or direction from the moderator is given to remedies, only complaining about SSRIs. It's all testimony not evidence and it is certainly not directing people to any meaningful remedies. I soon realized that the SSRI that I am taking was not essentially the cause or even a likely contributor to my problem. With the help of a medical specialist, who deals with complimentary medicine--using conventional and unconventional remedies, including nutrition--my disorder improved significantly, even better than before. I hope that the format for this site becomes more productive. Many people are hurting. lisa hallford wrote: why did you sign on in the first place?? If everyonethat took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS ofpeople on this forum. That is not the case. As withall medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are havingside effects which may or may not include PSSD. Thereis nothing bizarre about trying to understand and fixthese side effects. If you do not share thisparticular problem, this group is not for you and youneed to go away. You probably signed up for everygroup with the word "sex" in it, so do us all a favorand REMOVE YOURSELF. now go.--- Philip <phlp_anthony> wrote:> I have requested before for you to take me off your> mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is> not done with confirmation from you I will report it> to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too> bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI> recipients have serious sexual side effects and no> return of sexual capacity when off the meds.> > ---------------------------------> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mailbeta.__________________________________________________________Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 I would disagree that this site merely lists complaints. If you go back to the archives, you will see otherwise. People are encouraged to see specialists (endocrinologists,etc.), and get proper medical attention. But as you may or may not know, proper medical care can be tough to come by. Yes, there are plenty of complaints, but that's why people come here! It didn't help that you came on here and threatened to contact " appropriate authorities " . I'm sure most of us here had a good laugh over the stupidity of that comment. Luther I would advise people to go a blog or website that is moderated by medical experts on sexual disorders. This site simply list complaints. I found help from the Life Extension Foundation for example (no, I do not work for them) > and other such sites. Now, write this and let's help people. > > > Chris > > Philip wrote: > I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Um, yeah. What BS... Did you read the homepage before you signed on? This website is for people with PSSD - POST SSRI sexual dysfunction. It states that clearly on the website. If you don't like the subject matter, then you shouldn't have signed on. I still let people join if they are gathering information, but it's ridiculous for you to complain if you don't find what you want. Also, according to the most recent published data, sexual side effects are present in 95% of people taking SSRIs. This is in stark contrast to the 5% claimed by the drug companies. People in this group have tried many different remedies to reverse PSSD and most of them don't work very well. Trust me, if there was an easy solution, none of would be here. You are committing a logical fallacy of extending the specific (you) to the general (everybody else) just because your sexual dysfunction was *not* caused by SSRIs. In the majority of people on SSRIs, and a significant percentage who have discontinued, the SSRI is directly and solely responsible for their SD. Vornan -- In SSRIsex , Philip wrote: > > Are you any relation to Karl Rove? The first thing that you do is attack my intentions, my character. I was pointing out that since virtually only those people with sexual side effects go to this website, it can be misleading, implying that this problem is predominate. Well, according to the medical data I read it is. But the sexual side effects are normally temporary and not severe. That distinction is not usually clearly pointed out by the moderator. Nor is it pointed out enough that there are many causes for this disorder, whether one is on an SSRI or not. I felt discouraged when I subscribed to the website because I had to take one of the newer SSRIs and was having some sexual dsyfunction. The website seems to be a place to vent...not enough discussion or direction from the moderator is given to remedies, only complaining about SSRIs. It's all testimony not evidence and it is certainly not directing people to any meaningful remedies. I soon realized that the > SSRI that I am taking was not essentially the cause or even a likely contributor to my problem. With the help of a medical specialist, who deals with complimentary medicine--using conventional and unconventional remedies, including nutrition--my disorder improved significantly, even better than before. I hope that the format for this site becomes more productive. Many people are hurting. > > > > > > lisa hallford wrote: > why did you sign on in the first place?? If everyone > that took SSRI's got PSSD, there would be MILLIONS of > people on this forum. That is not the case. As with > all medications, a PERCENTAGE of SSRI users are having > side effects which may or may not include PSSD. There > is nothing bizarre about trying to understand and fix > these side effects. If you do not share this > particular problem, this group is not for you and you > need to go away. You probably signed up for every > group with the word " sex " in it, so do us all a favor > and REMOVE YOURSELF. now go. > > --- Philip wrote: > > > I have requested before for you to take me off your > > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is > > not done with confirmation from you I will report it > > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI > > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no > > return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > > __________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Maybe you could help us, and elaborate more on the treatment you recieved. I'm currently looking into unconventional remedies (homeopathic, enzyme therapy, etc.) myself to solve this problem. I've has some " mild " success, but have yet to return to normal. I'm seeing a specialist (non-medical) this coming weekend. What were your initial symptoms? If you don't believe they were caused by SSRIs, what do you belive the cause to be? Thanks - Luther > > > I have requested before for you to take me off your > > mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is > > not done with confirmation from you I will report it > > to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too > > bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI > > recipients have serious sexual side effects and no > > return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > > __________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 An ounce of provocation is worth a pound of interrogation... At least in your response I can see that we agree on a few issues. However, this is a site for people who suffer sexual side-effects from SSRI's, not for people who don't. Of course they're going to complain! They wouldn't be here if they didn't have something to complain about! Whether or not everyone on this site's problems are caused by SSRI's is a matter of conjecture but the simple fact of the matter is that they come here with a problem looking to see if anyone else has similar complaints. The very nature of this site is to complain! Complain, compare complaints and look for answers! I'm glad that your story has a rosy ending, it can give other's here some hope that theirs will too. But if you were in their shoes and not able to have a normal sex life for whatever reason you'd be pretty bitchy too! Let them vent and air their grievances! Don't try to make them feel bad for complaining! If no one complains, problems don't get solved. ChrisPhilip wrote: You start out by assuming that I am a pharmaceutical rep.--I am not, I have nothing to do with such companies--then you follow with a sanctimonious, "I hope you sleep well...knowing you sell..." This is illogical, unfounded...sounds like a fanatic. Look, I do not dispute the overuse of SSRIs and that they have side effects, even serious side effects for some. I personally do not like SSRIs as a first choice for therapy. I agree that these companies, at times, hide unfavorable results, over charge, etc, as is indicated by reputable sources, such as the Washiongton Post, The American Journal for Medicine, the Life Extension Foundation, etc--note that I try back up my observations. But science is science. There is sufficient data from independent researchers and watchdog groups that indicate that the vast majority of recipients of current generation SSRIs and many taking any SSRI, do not suffer the negative sexual side effects (mild to moderate to severe, temporary or permanent) as your site implies. I notice that you do not address the value of testimonials as an unreliable source of proof for the validity of overall claims of the SSRIs or any product. I have great emphathy for all those who write in with their maladies. I believe they are telling the truth. But there are many causes for sexual disorders, even with people taking SSRIs...even when the sexual side effects begin after the use of SSRIs. Your site is a place where people go to for insight, for cures possibly and I would emphasize that. And I would also remind people that the nature of your site is to mostly, if not virtually, draw people who are suffering from sexual side effects, giving the impression that this is what the majority of SSRI users experience. It is not likley that many, if any, of those who do not suffer the sexual side effects send messages to your website. And I bet that there are many, as the aforementioned sources/data indicate. By all means recognize that some people have serious side effects including sexual from SSRIs and help them understand that the causes are likley complex--age, psychological, hormonal, sensativity for some to some of the SSRIs, etc. Do not simply blast all the medicines, instead emphasize remedies and provide the "truth" with scientific proof that a particluar SSRI really does contribute primarily to some unfortunate person's sexual disorder. Your site gave me little comfort, when I was looking for remedies for diminishing virility that I thought, incorrectly, was likely due to an SSRI. I was not distracted by the easy focus on SSRIs. I, age 57, returned to normaI, even improved, sexual capacity by looking for remedies with medical and nutrional specialists. I would advise people to go a blog or website that is moderated by medical experts on sexual disorders. This site simply list complaints. I found help from the Life Extension Foundation for example (no, I do not work for them) and other such sites. Now, write this and let's help people. That sounds just like something a pharmaceutical rep would say Mr. , assuming that is your real name... By the way, not all people I have talked to have persistent side-effects after discontinuing medication. And I'm not advocating that SSRI's be banned, there are quite a few people who could really use them despite the possible side effect. But I do know this, the public has a RIGHT to know the TRUE likelihood of lingering side-effects when taking ANY medication. I hope you sleep well at night knowing you sell products to people who don't really need them and then try to cover up the true nature of the side-effects your products cause Mr. . Philip <phlp_anthony> wrote: I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers. 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 THE REMOVE ME MAIL IS ONLY AN ATTEMPT TO SEEK WETHER THE MAILS WERE ATTACHED W/ VIRUS PROBABLY HIRED AND PAID VIRUS WRITERS TO PURPOSEFULLY DISCREDIT THIS GROUP; IT AMAZES ME HOW MANY GROUPS IN #'S ARE DISCREDITED BY THE SECRET LAWYERS AND CORRUPT POWER OF MOTIONS THE PHARM. INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HIRES UP TO WRITE NEW VIRUS FOR NEW OS SYSTEMS. I CAN SAY I DID NOT NOTICE THIS HAPPENING IN MY OWN SYSTEM (PROOF OF VIRUS ATTACHED IN MY SECURITY LOGS, (NOW ALLREADY PRINTED AND SUBMITTED TO THE "PRPOER AUTHORITIES". MY COMMENT IS IMPLIED TO THAT AUTHORITY, THE SECURITY OR DISK DEFRAG/ THAT KEEPS RECORDS OF YOU R SITE" VIRUS ATTACHED %. AFTER 3.5 HR.S WORK AND OTHER DELAYS., I HAVE FOUND THAT I CAN NOW BLOCK A FEW EXISTING E-MAILS FROM THIS GROUP WHO ARE IN FACT ATTEMPTING TO SHUT IT DOWN. AGAIN, I'M JUST A SUCCESS STORY AS A FAMILY, NOW 7 MONTHS ON A SSRNI, IN COMBO WITH A WAKE UP TRIGGERING MEDICINE... I HAVE EXPERIENCED CONSISTENT PROGRESS AND AMAXING REHABILITATION/HEALING AS A RESULT OF ALLREADY DILIGENT PRACTISES IN HEALTH MAINTINENCE AND ENDOCRINE ADJ.'S..... BRAIN BUILDING SUPPLEMENTS FROM THE RIGHT SUPP. CO'S IN COMBONATION WITH A PHYSICIANS RNA/DNA AND SOME HGH AT A PREMIUM GRADE. ALL OF THIS IN COMBO WITH A IN-SPIRITUS FOCUS TOWARDS POSITIVE MASTERING OWNS BRAIN HEALING, SPIRITUAL SEEKING RESEARCH AND CORRECT FLUI INTAKE, @ 2 GALLONS A DAY CONSISTENT DURING ESPECIALLY THE FIRST WEEKS OF ANY NEW PYSCH. MED. SIMPLE THINGS LIKE UPPING BLOODSTREAM LEVELS OF CHLORITE IONS ( CHLORIDE), IE: IS BOOSTING ONE'S PLASMA LEVEL AS SAME AS SEA WATER. TRY GULPING DOWN A FEW GALLONS OF "NORWIEGAN COD LIVER OIL EVERY DAY FOR A COUPLE YEARS, START MULTIPILING BRAIN CELLS FOLKS....... DID THIS HELP ANYBODY???lightsoutluther wrote: I would disagree that this site merely lists complaints. If you go back to the archives, you will see otherwise. People are encouraged to see specialists (endocrinologists,etc.), and get proper medical attention. But as you may or may not know, proper medical care can be tough to come by.Yes, there are plenty of complaints, but that's why people come here! It didn't help that you came on here and threatened to contact "appropriate authorities". I'm sure most of us here had a good laugh over the stupidity of that comment. Luther I would advise people to go a blog or website that is moderated by medical experts on sexual disorders. This site simply list complaints. I found help from the Life Extension Foundation for example (no, I do not work for them)> and other such sites. Now, write this and let's help people.> > > > > Philip wrote:> I have requested before for you to take me off your mailing list, but you have not done so. If this is not done with confirmation from you I will report it to the appropriate authorites. The site seems too bizarre--unlikley that all or virtually all of SSRI recipients have serious sexual side effects and no return of sexual capacity when off the meds. > ---------------------------------> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > ---------------------------------> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.> Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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