Re: Except you become as little children...

[Guest guest]

Robbins says on one of his many CD babbles (tho his point was way different), that if you keep saying "I SHOULD" you end up "shoulding all over yourself."

I think he stole that from someone, who also said... we have to stop living in the world of Shoulds and Musts...

we gotta stop shoulding on ourself and musterbating so much!!

deb...

you often meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it...

[Guest guest]

Warren,

There are parts of your post that I resonate with and there are

thoughts of disagreement that spring up.

I don't believe that for the small child everything is as it should

be. I believe we come in as fully identified egos, we believe that we

are separate from God - why else would we be in a body - the perfect

symbol for playing out the separated state.

When 's grandson was born her thought was: " Here's another one

coming in to be undone. " That's the only way I can make sense of this

existence.

In my healing work I have been back in the womb several times -

always feeling unwanted, a burden, unloved. There was already

attachment to a story, full identification with the ego,the small me.

When I revisit my childhood it is always painful - beliefs operating

around not loved, not worthy, not good enough, not connected.If there

were moments of happiness it was because circumstances created that

feeling, it was not because of an inherent joy of being.

At the same time I fully appreciate the innocence, spontaneity and

realness of a small child- I just don't believe that it is their

parents or the world that causes them to have a story - the world is

already their projection, their dream, their illusion.

Love, Margaret

> I remember when I was a small child, everything was as it should

be.

> I didn't say to myself, " I should be different, " or " They should be

> different, " or " The world should be different. " Yes, I cried if I

was

> in physical discomfort, but I had no thought that anything should

be

> different than how it was. I loved what IS.

>

> Then someone told me their story. I think it was my mother. I

should

> be different. I was too noisy, I was too careless, I didn't obey

> quickly enough. Other people told me stories too. People weren't

> considerate enough, people were ill-mannered, it was wrong to be

> different. It was clearly wrong to love what IS; I should love what

> SHOULD be.

>

> They were all older than I, and thus certainly wiser. And my

survival

> depended upon their approval, or at least it seemed to. So I gave

up

> loving what IS, and turned my affections to what SHOULD be. And I

> learned so well what SHOULD be that soon I was able to teach others

> what SHOULD be, particularly those who didn't know as well as I. I

> made it clear to them how they SHOULD be, and how the world SHOULD

be.

>

> Of course I often fell short of behaving how I SHOULD. But that

> wasn't always my fault. Sometimes it was other people's fault

because

> they hadn't behaved as they SHOULD. Or at least I tried to convince

> them so.

>

> But now I'm once again learning to love what IS, and learning that

> all those stories I was taught about what SHOULD be were just that--

-

> stories; fictional stories that had been placed in the non-fiction

> section by mistake. So I'm coming full circle, getting back to that

> love of what IS that I had as a child.

>

> I think that's what Jesus meant when he said, " Escept you become as

> little children, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. "

>

> --Warren

[Guest guest]

madodeane wrote:

> I don't believe that for the small child everything is as it should

> be.

I was writing my own experience. Clearly yours was different.

Peace and love,

Warren

[Guest guest]

Dear Warren,

I appreciate your equanimity. I think I was on the attack a little

bit.

Thank you,

Margaret

> > I don't believe that for the small child everything is as it

should

> > be.

>

> I was writing my own experience. Clearly yours was different.

>

> Peace and love,

> Warren

[Guest guest]

Hai Bev

Can you write more of the same.

Its my experience too, i love this harmonie.

whithout the story's its a nice way to be,

with our frends, who are so lovely.

Love, Michiel

>Ok, I'm am new to all of this

> but I feel I have to share my reality with working with young

children. When I can meet these precious beings where they are,

magic happens. There is healing that takes place within both of

us. Somewhere within me this understanding comes foward and unites

with this child. We are both in the " NOW " and they love that I am

there with them and I understand it. We are just there with

no " shoulds " calling me. I can't reallly put words to it. I just

know that I'll see these children again and they will remember in

their hearts what our connection is and they will want to be there

again. Many times these are so called " handicapped children " that I

have the gift to be with. It is amazing.

>

> I love this work. BEV

[Guest guest]

I'm a new person, and still 'working' through the book, but have a

question about people's experience (which seems to relate to this

thread...): Is anyone in the group finding that they are becoming

more 'spiritual' and more aware of 'God' (not necessarily in 's

sense of being reality, but in the sense of a Divine Entity with whom

I am 'dancing'... Can't think of a better description at this moment).

What I'm getting at is: what seems to me to be happening is that when

my 'story' is out of the way, I can hear Spirit and move in the

direction which serves my highest good. I think of this as the 'still

small voice' of God, which scriptures (of various denominations and

religious tradtions) point to...

Is anyone having that experience? Or experiencing in this way?

Also, I get that I'm not going to turn into a 'passive lump' if I

give up all my stories... Can those of you further along in your self

inquiry speak to that? Is motivation to action peaceful? What does it

feel like?

> > I remember when I was a small child, everything was as it should

> be.

> > I didn't say to myself, " I should be different, " or " They should

be

> > different, " or " The world should be different. " Yes, I cried if I

> was

> > in physical discomfort, but I had no thought that anything should

> be

> > different than how it was. I loved what IS.

> >

> > Then someone told me their story. I think it was my mother. I

> should

> > be different. I was too noisy, I was too careless, I didn't obey

> > quickly enough. Other people told me stories too. People weren't

> > considerate enough, people were ill-mannered, it was wrong to be

> > different. It was clearly wrong to love what IS; I should love

what

> > SHOULD be.

> >

> > They were all older than I, and thus certainly wiser. And my

> survival

> > depended upon their approval, or at least it seemed to. So I gave

> up

> > loving what IS, and turned my affections to what SHOULD be. And I

> > learned so well what SHOULD be that soon I was able to teach

others

> > what SHOULD be, particularly those who didn't know as well as I.

I

> > made it clear to them how they SHOULD be, and how the world

SHOULD

> be.

> >

> > Of course I often fell short of behaving how I SHOULD. But that

> > wasn't always my fault. Sometimes it was other people's fault

> because

> > they hadn't behaved as they SHOULD. Or at least I tried to

convince

> > them so.

> >

> > But now I'm once again learning to love what IS, and learning

that

> > all those stories I was taught about what SHOULD be were just

that--

> -

> > stories; fictional stories that had been placed in the non-

fiction

> > section by mistake. So I'm coming full circle, getting back to

that

> > love of what IS that I had as a child.

> >

> > I think that's what Jesus meant when he said, " Escept you become

as

> > little children, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. "

> >

> > --Warren

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

Beautiful sharing and wonderful insight. Welcome to this very amazing

group.

Doug

>

> Hi All,

> I'm a new person too, and last night I had a major

> breakthrough, so the Work is working for me so far.

> asked about the spiritual aspect. What I

> describe as my " teachers " have been communicating or

> nagging me for decades. I've been getting very loving

> messages from them mostly in my dreams, but sometimes

> during waking periods also. I understand now what they

> wanted me to see about myself, and last night I got a

> beautiful " welcome to reality " party in my dreams last

> night. So I feel that I have always been in touch

> spiritually. As I said they tried for decades to make

> me see, and a couple months ago, something happened

> that I thought was one of the worst things that could

> happen to me. After I did the inquiry, I saw that it

> was the BEST thing that could have happened to me.

> They did it to get my attention, and the words I heard

> often during this dark period was " pay attention " . And

> finally I got it. I don't feel that the Work makes one

> a " passive lump " . For me, it removes the fear I

> created with my " stories " so that now I can act, with

> loving intention. I loved Warren's analogy to the

> " stories " as " fiction that got put into nonfiction by

> mistake " . As a librarian I can appreciate that! And

> how true it is. Now when a " story " tries to move in, I

> say to myself: you're making that up, aren't you? And

> the thought is allowed to drift away. Thank you all so

> much. I look forward to reading about you all-it will

> help keep me " real " .

> Love, Jane

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> I'm a new person

Ah, good! You write well for a newborn. :-)

> I get that I'm not going to turn into a 'passive lump' if I give

> up all my stories... Can those of you further along in your self

> inquiry speak to that? Is motivation to action peaceful? What does

> it feel like?

But (I like the name), you answered that yourself:

> what seems to me to be happening is that when my 'story' is out of

> the way, I can hear Spirit and move in the direction which serves

> my highest good.

And that's what happens---spontanaity. It's your stories that keep

you from being spontaneous. Your stories tell you how

you're 'supposed' to react. You have to check them first. But they're

often contradictory, so you have to sort out the contradictions. So

instead of acting, you freeze while that's all taking place inside.

Without the stories you're free to heed the 'still small voice' or

your intuition, or your heart...whatever you want to term it. That

comes very quickly. No danger of being a 'passive lump'. :-)

Peace and love,

Warren

[Guest guest]

Interesting how I answered my own question and didn't realize it...

LOL!

However, thanks for being a handy mirror, Warren!

Still not getting email from the list. Aren't I 'supposed' too?

(Maybe I can do the work on that... tee,hee)

> > I'm a new person

>

> Ah, good! You write well for a newborn. :-)

>

> > I get that I'm not going to turn into a 'passive lump' if I give

> > up all my stories... Can those of you further along in your self

> > inquiry speak to that? Is motivation to action peaceful? What

does

> > it feel like?

>

> But (I like the name), you answered that yourself:

>

> > what seems to me to be happening is that when my 'story' is out

of

> > the way, I can hear Spirit and move in the direction which serves

> > my highest good.

>

> And that's what happens---spontanaity. It's your stories that keep

> you from being spontaneous. Your stories tell you how

> you're 'supposed' to react. You have to check them first. But

they're

> often contradictory, so you have to sort out the contradictions. So

> instead of acting, you freeze while that's all taking place inside.

> Without the stories you're free to heed the 'still small voice' or

> your intuition, or your heart...whatever you want to term it. That

> comes very quickly. No danger of being a 'passive lump'. :-)

>

> Peace and love,

> Warren

[Guest guest]

>

dear warren,

thank you for this one. lovely & clear.

love

martha

> Message: 23

> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:44:18 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Except you become as little children...

>

> wrote:

> > I'm a new person

>

> Ah, good! You write well for a newborn. :-)

>

> > I get that I'm not going to turn into a 'passive lump' if I give

> > up all my stories... Can those of you further along in your self

> > inquiry speak to that? Is motivation to action peaceful? What does

> > it feel like?

>

> But (I like the name), you answered that yourself:

>

> > what seems to me to be happening is that when my 'story' is out of

> > the way, I can hear Spirit and move in the direction which serves

> > my highest good.

>

> And that's what happens---spontanaity. It's your stories that keep

> you from being spontaneous. Your stories tell you how

> you're 'supposed' to react. You have to check them first. But they're

> often contradictory, so you have to sort out the contradictions. So

> instead of acting, you freeze while that's all taking place inside.

> Without the stories you're free to heed the 'still small voice' or

> your intuition, or your heart...whatever you want to term it. That

> comes very quickly. No danger of being a 'passive lump'. :-)

>

> Peace and love,

> Warren

>

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