Re: Re: Except you become as little children...

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Re: Except you become as little children...

Warren,There are parts of your post that I resonate with and there are thoughts of disagreement that spring up.I don't believe that for the small child everything is as it should be. I believe we come in as fully identified egos, we believe that we are separate from God - why else would we be in a body - the perfect symbol for playing out the separated state.When 's grandson was born her thought was: "Here's another one coming in to be undone." That's the only way I can make sense of this existence.In my healing work I have been back in the womb several times - always feeling unwanted, a burden, unloved. There was already attachment to a story, full identification with the ego,the small me.When I revisit my childhood it is always painful - beliefs operating around not loved, not worthy, not good enough, not connected.If there were moments of happiness it was because circumstances created that feeling, it was not because of an inherent joy of being.At the same time I fully appreciate the innocence, spontaneity and realness of a small child- I just don't believe that it is their parents or the world that causes them to have a story - the world is already their projection, their dream, their illusion.Love, Margaret> I remember when I was a small child, everything was as it should be. > I didn't say to myself, "I should be different," or "They should be > different," or "The world should be different." Yes, I cried if I was > in physical discomfort, but I had no thought that anything should be > different than how it was. I loved what IS.> > Then someone told me their story. I think it was my mother. I should > be different. I was too noisy, I was too careless, I didn't obey > quickly enough. Other people told me stories too. People weren't > considerate enough, people were ill-mannered, it was wrong to be > different. It was clearly wrong to love what IS; I should love what > SHOULD be.> > They were all older than I, and thus certainly wiser. And my survival > depended upon their approval, or at least it seemed to. So I gave up > loving what IS, and turned my affections to what SHOULD be. And I > learned so well what SHOULD be that soon I was able to teach others > what SHOULD be, particularly those who didn't know as well as I. I > made it clear to them how they SHOULD be, and how the world SHOULD be.> > Of course I often fell short of behaving how I SHOULD. But that > wasn't always my fault. Sometimes it was other people's fault because > they hadn't behaved as they SHOULD. Or at least I tried to convince > them so.> > But now I'm once again learning to love what IS, and learning that > all those stories I was taught about what SHOULD be were just that---> stories; fictional stories that had been placed in the non-fiction > section by mistake. So I'm coming full circle, getting back to that > love of what IS that I had as a child.> > I think that's what Jesus meant when he said, "Escept you become as > little children, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven."> > --Warren

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Ok, I'm am new to all of this but I feel I have to share my reality with working with young children. When I can meet these precious beings where they are, magic happens. There is healing that takes place within both of us. Somewhere within me this understanding comes foward and unites with this child. We are both in the "NOW" and they love that I am there with them and I understand it. We are just there with no "shoulds" calling me. I can't reallly put words to it. I just know that I'll see these children again and they will remember in their hearts what our connection is and they will want to be there again. Many times these are so called "handicapped children" that I have the gift to be with. It is amazing. I love this work. BEV

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is >To: Loving-what-is >Subject: Re: Except you become as little children... >Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:50:09 -0000 > >Warren, > >There are parts of your post that I resonate with and there are >thoughts of disagreement that spring up. >I don't believe that for the small child everything is as it should >be. I believe we come in as fully identified egos, we believe that we >are separate from God - why else would we be in a body - the perfect >symbol for playing out the separated state. >When 's grandson was born her thought was: "Here's another one >coming in to be undone." That's the only way I can make sense of this >existence. >In my healing work I have been back in the womb several times - >always feeling unwanted, a burden, unloved. There was already >attachment to a story, full identification with the ego,the small me. >When I revisit my childhood it is always painful - beliefs operating >around not loved, not worthy, not good enough, not connected.If there >were moments of happiness it was because circumstances created that >feeling, it was not because of an inherent joy of being. >At the same time I fully appreciate the innocence, spontaneity and >realness of a small child- I just don't believe that it is their >parents or the world that causes them to have a story - the world is >already their projection, their dream, their illusion. > >Love, Margaret > > I remember when I was a small child, everything was as it should >be. > > I didn't say to myself, "I should be different," or "They should be > > different," or "The world should be different." Yes, I cried if I >was > > in physical discomfort, but I had no thought that anything should >be > > different than how it was. I loved what IS. > > > > Then someone told me their story. I think it was my mother. I >should > > be different. I was too noisy, I was too careless, I didn't obey > > quickly enough. Other people told me stories too. People weren't > > considerate enough, people were ill-mannered, it was wrong to be > > different. It was clearly wrong to love what IS; I should love what > > SHOULD be. > > > > They were all older than I, and thus certainly wiser. And my >survival > > depended upon their approval, or at least it seemed to. So I gave >up > > loving what IS, and turned my affections to what SHOULD be. And I > > learned so well what SHOULD be that soon I was able to teach others > > what SHOULD be, particularly those who didn't know as well as I. I > > made it clear to them how they SHOULD be, and how the world SHOULD >be. > > > > Of course I often fell short of behaving how I SHOULD. But that > > wasn't always my fault. Sometimes it was other people's fault >because > > they hadn't behaved as they SHOULD. Or at least I tried to convince > > them so. > > > > But now I'm once again learning to love what IS, and learning that > > all those stories I was taught about what SHOULD be were just that-- >- > > stories; fictional stories that had been placed in the non-fiction > > section by mistake. So I'm coming full circle, getting back to that > > love of what IS that I had as a child. > > > > I think that's what Jesus meant when he said, "Escept you become as > > little children, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven." > > > > --Warren > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here

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Hi All,

I'm a new person too, and last night I had a major

breakthrough, so the Work is working for me so far.

asked about the spiritual aspect. What I

describe as my " teachers " have been communicating or

nagging me for decades. I've been getting very loving

messages from them mostly in my dreams, but sometimes

during waking periods also. I understand now what they

wanted me to see about myself, and last night I got a

beautiful " welcome to reality " party in my dreams last

night. So I feel that I have always been in touch

spiritually. As I said they tried for decades to make

me see, and a couple months ago, something happened

that I thought was one of the worst things that could

happen to me. After I did the inquiry, I saw that it

was the BEST thing that could have happened to me.

They did it to get my attention, and the words I heard

often during this dark period was " pay attention " . And

finally I got it. I don't feel that the Work makes one

a " passive lump " . For me, it removes the fear I

created with my " stories " so that now I can act, with

loving intention. I loved Warren's analogy to the

" stories " as " fiction that got put into nonfiction by

mistake " . As a librarian I can appreciate that! And

how true it is. Now when a " story " tries to move in, I

say to myself: you're making that up, aren't you? And

the thought is allowed to drift away. Thank you all so

much. I look forward to reading about you all-it will

help keep me " real " .

Love, Jane

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