Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well, we don't know if dopamine is the main problem. So taking pro- dopamine supplements/drugs may not be the answer. Be careful not to go crazy with supplements, too much can have adverse effects and you don't want to clean out your wallet taking things that aren't going to work. You need to try one at a time for a few weeks to see what happens before moving on to the next. Take it from me, I have plenty of unused supplements in my cabinet that I spent thousands of my hard earned money on. Now all I take is fish oil and protein for general health. How much is a " shitload " of omega-3? You don't want to overdo it. Don't get so hung up on dopamine! Chances are it's more than that. Honestly, I would try experimenting with Cialis a bit. I know it's not supposed to do anything for libido, but I swear it increased mine. I think the fact that I could get erections easier indirectly gave me a boost. I actually had an extremely rare (these days) erotic dream the other night, woke up with a big erection. The only side effect I've had to deal with is a headache when I took 20mg. Luther > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this wednesday, it is > > still > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it with > > me. I wish > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I think the > > porn idea is > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems to be > > ignoring > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just waits > > to improve. > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is he > was on > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for > > improvement. Stupid - > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 It definitely has more to do than just dopamine but I think that is a major aspect. However the entire pituitary gland is screwed up which controls the way things are synthesized with dopamine etc. I'm looking up ways i can improve the pituitary gland. This page http://www.marysherbs.com/anatomy/anat-pit.shtml gives some stuff on strenghtening the pituatory gland. Don't know how beneficial it is but i'm desperate for ideas. Also I'm not really overdosing on the omega-3 but I am taking a lot. Probably about 2 grams of the supplement plus at least a gram from foods. I read the max one should take is 3 grams don't know how true that is. I also can't seem to get an erection anymore hardly ever and when I do it perks up very very slow (like 1 erection every 3 days). I feel activity in my prostate but its like telling me I should have an erection now but not enough is there to activate it. I might give cialis or viagra a try but right now I'm looking to do it the natural way. Also you probably have an increased sex drive bc an erection either way you look at it drives movement of the penis and that must create more drive by itself which is a good thing. > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this wednesday, > it is > > > still > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it > with > > > me. I wish > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I think > the > > > porn idea is > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems > to be > > > ignoring > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just > waits > > > to improve. > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is > he > > was on > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 It's going in to week 4 on this diet and basically what I have noticed is minor differences except week one had more promising results. I am going to keep it up though bc I'm getting used to this diet. I think its not a total cure but I think it does help a little even if its very little. Also I'm getting rid of all the toxins in my body so that is also a plus. I'm getting better at the diet too in specifics bc I'm reading various books on healing and foods. I also read in one book that the body needs semen in it for males of course bc that contains omega-3 and you shouldn't masturbate too much. Well I haven't masturbated in 5 days and still don't feel anywhere near my prior self. Erections are hard to come by these days. I do feel increase drives each day but if I masturbate one time I'm sure that feeling will quickly fade and it will take a while to rebuild again. But I'm thinking the less we masturbate maybe the faster we rebuild. I know I brought this up before and so did others. I think the reason not to masturbate is bc it will increase energy level in the body and give the body more strength to heal and actually quicken recovery. This is just another theory I have but I assume everything has its limits in how much it can work. ~Take care everyone and keep working on a cure nuretronics > > > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this wednesday, > > it is > > > > still > > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it > > with > > > > me. I wish > > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I think > > the > > > > porn idea is > > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems > > to be > > > > ignoring > > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just > > waits > > > > to improve. > > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is > > he > > > was on > > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for > > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I'm starting to understand more what happened to my body from this diet. I know I can never be sure but this is what I feel is going on. When you eat an abundance of really really healthy foods your body starts producing more semen at a faster rate. How much faster I don't know but I'm almost positive it is faster. This creates a physical response but not truly emotional until it connects with your mind and the drive starts to increase. Semen production is still much slower than the pre-SSRI state but much faster than eating the other processed artificial foods I was eating all my life. I have an abundance of semen after not masturbating for days but my physical desire is still so low except at certain times when I concentrate deeply. I'm trying to cut masturbation to an extreme mimimum but it is hard with so much semen build up, it is kind of painful not as much pleasurable. I had a wet dream last night from not masturbating but the dream sucked and I just remember waking up with semen coming out. This proves it is more physical response again and not really emotional. I think somehow we can utilize the physical to spark the emotional which is also why I'm cutting masturbation to a minimum. Also I cannot cry and that is still a major problem and I don't go by sex drive as much anymore to tell if this diet is working. I think crying is somehow the key in determining emotional function better than anything. I don't mean teary eyed either. I mean really deep emotional cries. I can't remember the last time I had a deep emotional cry. Once I get my emotional crying back I will be much more sure there is change going on in the way my brain is processing information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this wednesday, > > > it is > > > > > still > > > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it > > > with > > > > > me. I wish > > > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I think > > > the > > > > > porn idea is > > > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems > > > to be > > > > > ignoring > > > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just > > > waits > > > > > to improve. > > > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is > > > he > > > > was on > > > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for > > > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 If you had a wet dream, you are doing much better than most of us. I'm reluctant to suggest it, but it might even be psychological in your case. After all, you were recovering remarkably well soon after you quit the meds but seem to have slipped back... Vornan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this > wednesday, > > > > it is > > > > > > still > > > > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it > > > > with > > > > > > me. I wish > > > > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I > think > > > > the > > > > > > porn idea is > > > > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems > > > > to be > > > > > > ignoring > > > > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just > > > > waits > > > > > > to improve. > > > > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is > > > > he > > > > > was on > > > > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for > > > > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 It's definitely not psychological I wish it were but I even have pain in that region and it looks paralyzed the majority of the time. It used to go up instantly years before now it just stays limp. And no I cannot get an erection easily even with abundance of semen. Only with intense concentration. There is such a disconnect there still. I have no real emotional factors either and I would know if it were psychological. I know I can't prove it to you and you can only go by what people say but I know it is definitely a form PSSD otherwise I wouldn't be here. ~Nuretronics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this > > wednesday, > > > > > it is > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to > discuss it > > > > > with > > > > > > > me. I wish > > > > > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I > > think > > > > > the > > > > > > > porn idea is > > > > > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just > seems > > > > > to be > > > > > > > ignoring > > > > > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He > just > > > > > waits > > > > > > > to improve. > > > > > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid > thought is > > > > > he > > > > > > was on > > > > > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off > for > > > > > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 OK, I believe you. It's just unusual for someone to have a wet dream with this condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this > > > wednesday, > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to > > discuss it > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > me. I wish > > > > > > > > > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I > > > think > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > porn idea is > > > > > > > > > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just > > seems > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > ignoring > > > > > > > > > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He > > just > > > > > > waits > > > > > > > > to improve. > > > > > > > > > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid > > thought is > > > > > > he > > > > > > > was on > > > > > > > > > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off > > for > > > > > > > > improvement. Stupid - > > > > > > > > > but I have to have hope! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I haven't posted much about my diet as of late but I am very frustrated in most aspects and somewhat pleased in others. I have become even stricter with the diet after reading various health books. I now weigh 154 and have almost a six pack after losing 10 pounds in 2 months. What upsets me more than anything is girls come up to me now it's insane how the tables turned when I'm like this. Over the past month I basically take no sugars at all and pretty much take loads of supplements and maintain my conviction of 100% organic wholesome foods. I noticed that my ability to orgasm is almost the same as it was before SSRIs but my brain connection still feels completely cut off in between. It's almost as if I am creating every chemical possible like injecting these hormones in my blood and my semen has even become pre-ssri like the last time I masturbated (it is yellowish and less watery). At one time I got wet dreams 3 days in a row but I don't think I had a full erection during them. I think its better to retain the semen and now I don't get them as often since taking macca. The thing that is almost completely lacking is brain connection (libido). I would only get horny over the last stage of sex of releasing semen in a girl but there is no inbetween like there was before. Basically my chemicals are only active when I orgasm and they are in a state of inertia until that final stage. That is why my penis never gets erect and I can never cry. I have pretty much no libido but found a way at making all the chemicals to produce pretty strong semen that could probably get a woman pregnant but that's not my goal right now. I don't know what else I can do to give me a boost. It's probably a dopamine problem for me b/c macca takes numbness away to a large degree and enables me to retain semen better. But the ultimately I need to fix the libido (erections and crying). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 >nuretronics, I have some questions for you, please respond when you find the time. Before you started the 100% organic diet, could you ejaculate, how much do you attribute the change in diet to fuller orgasms? You said " macca takes the numbness away. " Are you saying that macca (along w/diet) has brought pleasurable sensation back to the genitals for you? Do you enjoy some of the benifits of your diet, including andy emotional/well being benifits? As a suggestion, I'm not sure what your connection to fantasizing is, but perhaps if you tried to read some stories that were about the fantasies you like or even use to like it might help to stimulate libido. It works some of the time for me, its never amazing but its something. For crying, maybe try renting a sad movie, even if you don't cry if it stimulates some feeling or even sense or thought it might be worth it. I just saw a movie called longford, a drama, I almost cried but it also provoked some deeper life questions for me, its a good drama. As for erections, I think many of us should explore supplements fot this, as well as medications like cialis, viagra. i hate the thought of taking any drug, but I here they work and don't really affect mood or personality much, still its always best to be extremely cautious w/ any medication. Just some ideas. Please respond. devinn321 > I haven't posted much about my diet as of late but I am very > frustrated in most aspects and somewhat pleased in others. I have > become even stricter with the diet after reading various health books. > I now weigh 154 and have almost a six pack after losing 10 pounds in 2 > months. What upsets me more than anything is girls come up to me now > it's insane how the tables turned when I'm like this. Over the past > month I basically take no sugars at all and pretty much take loads of > supplements and maintain my conviction of 100% organic wholesome > foods. I noticed that my ability to orgasm is almost the same as it > was before SSRIs but my brain connection still feels completely cut > off in between. It's almost as if I am creating every chemical > possible like injecting these hormones in my blood and my semen has > even become pre-ssri like the last time I masturbated (it is yellowish > and less watery). At one time I got wet dreams 3 days in a row but I > don't think I had a full erection during them. I think its better to > retain the semen and now I don't get them as often since taking macca. > The thing that is almost completely lacking is brain connection > (libido). I would only get horny over the last stage of sex of > releasing semen in a girl but there is no inbetween like there was > before. Basically my chemicals are only active when I orgasm and they > are in a state of inertia until that final stage. That is why my penis > never gets erect and I can never cry. I have pretty much no libido but > found a way at making all the chemicals to produce pretty strong semen > that could probably get a woman pregnant but that's not my goal right > now. I don't know what else I can do to give me a boost. It's probably > a dopamine problem for me b/c macca takes numbness away to a large > degree and enables me to retain semen better. But the ultimately I > need to fix the libido (erections and crying). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Before you started > the 100% organic diet, could you ejaculate, how much do you attribute the change in diet > to fuller orgasms?> Before the diet I could still ejaculate...I think everyone on this site can ejaculate...but there was very little intensity about 40%-50% as intense as they were pre-SSRI, now the orgasms are more intense. Probably about 75 - 85% of the intensity is back b/c it varies for each orgasm. I also try to limit myself from masturbation b/c I sometimes feel I do it too much which would be 1-3 times a week. I think 1 time a week max is all I should do but sometimes its hard to refrain. I would say I also get more semen production a lot faster than before I started it as well as all my other hormones have probably gone up. I don't think this could happen just by time alone healing it either b/c this happened only within a 3 month span. I attribute the diet to 70% and the supplements to the other 30% of the progress.> You said "macca takes the numbness away." Are you saying that macca (along w/diet) has > brought pleasurable sensation back to the genitals for you?> Maca only takes numbness away to a degree. Sometimes I'm pretty sure I have 100% sensation down there b/c I can actually feel my balls again without a numb sensation but absolutely no ability to get an erection. I attribute the absorption of the Maca to the foods I am eating. It literally worked the first day I took it since trying it before a couple months ago and got no real results. I also mentioned a while back I had holes and crevices all over my tongue. This represents a B12 deficiency and the B vitamins are responsible for dopamine. My tongue is about 70% better than a month and a half ago. Definitely attribute the tongue lesions from the drugs I took. Also I am reading a nutritional deficiency can exist someones entire life and prescription drugs rapidly deplete nutrients. Makes me think thats why some people get this problem faster b/c their immune system may have been in a weakened state from deficiencies or from birth. Even an organic diet and multivitamins every day for 3 months can not fix years of abuse. I think it's going to take a lot longer. Maybe a year. Sometimes 2 years it says in a book I am reading. I think there are 2 problems we are facing nutritional deficiency and nuerotranmitter malfunction. I am not saying that nutritional deficiency is by any means the root cause but to repair the problem faster I think we should work on the absorption of the foods we take by enhancing our immune system to the best shape it can be. After all it says Tardive Dyskenesia can be prevented or delayed with vitamin E so you know something is up with nutrition.Also exercise should be done in moderation b/c we deplete more nutrients when we exercise. So a half hour a day or every other is all I do.> Do you enjoy some of the benifits of your diet, including andy emotional/well being benifits?As far as emotional well being I still have very little in life. I'm freakin 22 and could bang any chick I want to but can't b/c of the evil drugs unless of course I took Viagra which I don't want to do b/c its not me. Also having 5 years of chronic pain before it doesn't help either. I would say emotionally I am better controlled than before but I don't consider myself content in any way with no ability to get a true erection and with very little libido. As I mentioned before "sex" is the most important thing in life. Also since I stopped taking foods with sugar my anxiety has gone way down about other things. I'm really trying to heal my adrenal glands and pituatory from messing them up before with chronic pain for 5 years and 3 and a half years of prescription drug abuse. I am not going to give up this diet anytime soon either b/c I am starting to see some results and in my eyes they are minimal but to someone else they may seem huge. I think the fastest way to recovery besides drugs would only be to eat all healthy foods and take many specific supplements. Also my diet is not perfect by any means and I can always do something more to tweak it which is why I am studying the effects of food and the body. I also might take a medical leave from school next semester if I am not seeing any more progress b/c the only thing that gets me through the day is hope of getting better and if I see no more results I quit. I still don't see any true erection ability besides from pressure on it which is the only thing that will truly say I am cured. Also most of what I said could be completely wrong b/c if don't continue to see any results than the only way to fix the problem would be to take another drug and nutrition does not get to the root to the problem that got too out of hand.Take care~nuretronics> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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