Re: 100% organic diet

[Guest guest]

hey, let me share my story about organic diet I did. I recently did a

detox program by this one book called toxic relief.

Its basically you take organic stuff and some supplement for 2 wks

and for 3-4 days you do juice fast which you drink nothing but

organic fruit and vege juice. and after that you go on for 2 wks with

organic foods and veges to end it. I did cheat the program in some

parts. It was an interesting experience though.

http://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Relief-Restore-Through-

Detoxification/dp/1591852137/sr=1-

1/qid=1168736113/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-3518549-8746827?ie=UTF8 & s=books

Heres what I experienced that were noticeable.

Ive been having wierd temperature problem like hot flashes and

feeling hot most of the time. during the detoxing I begin to feel

really really cold. very opposite from when on SSRI. I kept telling

my family members I was cold and they said they werent at all. So

something was going on with temp control in my body. I would like to

think of it as body finally adjusting temps again.

second, only DURING the program, my constipation went away

completely. of course I was almost too hungry most of the time since

veges and fruit are digested so fast. I was going to the bathroom

very effortlessly and it felt pretty good everytime like I was

opening up a clogged pipe.

third, this was the sign that I thought this detox program was

positive for my body. I had this whitehead thing eversince I was a

kid. People who have them know what it is . Its this tiny acne like

bumps over skin and when you squeeze it, white things come out.

During the detox , amazingly most of them disappeared from my face.

This was pretty cool since i thought this was a genetic thing all my

life.

fourth thing Ive noticed is of course. I lost weight which isnt

really good for me since Im a skinny person to begine with.

and lastly during the detox 3-4 days, I was getting some constant

strong erection every morning, Im not sure on this one , it could

have been a simple coincedence.

But question you guys might be curious about is if it helped my

libido. Unfotunatly I didnt notice much in the libido department but

I think this program was doing something positive. On one thing

though Im not sure if this was do to detoxing but my sensation did

come back once in during the day right after the 3-4 day during the

shower but after that I became numb again. So this could have been

also a coincendence.

I might do it again sometime later when Im mentally ready again. but

for me it was really hard and long program.

>

> I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There is no

> easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know people

want

> results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to go the

> artificial route. I looked at this site

> http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-nutrition.html

> I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if not as

> devastating sometimes in a sense.

> But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized. When I say

> 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And Vornan I

> read what you wrote about going that route as well in October. It

> appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely natural

> cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time. Organic

is

> no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are okay

but

> try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get organic

> eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there was a

> quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it someday by

> artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet. I'm

gonna

> try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and do

much

> more research about organic health foods. It says on that link

that " A

> word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who have been

> on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went on a

> total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was less

than

> 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are this will

> work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

>

[Guest guest]

Wow that is amazing what you described in as little as 2 weeks on your

program. There is a problem with your detox diet you describe. Your

diet must consist of whole foods and not just juices. Vegetables

juices are okay I'm pretty sure but with high concentrated doses of

fruit juice its harder on the brain for your body to absorb the sugars

and shocks the system. However this diet is probably a good temp way

to clean things out but not one to stay on. We must not tax the brain

with harmful foods in anyway as well as taxing it with organic foods

so it can focus more on healing. Too much concentration of sugars is

no good even in an organic manner. I know the diet I am on will be

difficult to maintain at first but I believe should get easier with

time and I'm thankful for your feedback. I too am skinny but will try

to eat as much protein as possible in the process through nuts, small

quantities of meats, eggs and fish. I have a feeling if you work your

body in a healthy manner on a consistent basis it can only help the

situation. Act like your body has cancer and your trying to cure it.

Most people eat and act as if they can't get cancer. We already worked

our bodies in a negative manner on a consistent basis. Also 2 weeks is

not long enough to see any hard results. I have read when you start

this diet your body goes into withdrawal and is constantly readjusting

to keep up with the new nutrients flooding your brain. Also I read

cooking vegetables destroys the nutrients in it 85%!!! I like

vegetables better raw anyway.

Thanx again man pz

~nuretronics

> >

> > I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There is no

> > easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know people

> want

> > results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to go the

> > artificial route. I looked at this site

> > http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-nutrition.html

> > I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if not as

> > devastating sometimes in a sense.

> > But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized. When I say

> > 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And Vornan I

> > read what you wrote about going that route as well in October. It

> > appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely natural

> > cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time. Organic

> is

> > no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are okay

> but

> > try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get organic

> > eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there was a

> > quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it someday by

> > artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet. I'm

> gonna

> > try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and do

> much

> > more research about organic health foods. It says on that link

> that " A

> > word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who have been

> > on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went on a

> > total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was less

> than

> > 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are this will

> > work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've been doing Bioset for a few weeks, and I've been told that my

body handles and drains toxins very well, so I wouldn't need to

undergo a detox program. My dr. says there doesn't seem to be

anything wrong with me from a physical standpoint. My main problems

are the emotional issues that Celexa " masked " for so many years,

plus blocked chemical pathways which affect libido. I'm not 100%

sold on BioSet, so take it for what it's worth.

I do think it is important to take a hard look at one's diet. A

lifestyle which features high amounts of alcohol and caffeine can't

help. I basically just drink plenty of water, eat sensibly, and

exercise a few times weekly. Hats off for being disciplined enough

to undergo such a challenging diet as 100% organic.

Luther

> >

> > I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There is

no

> > easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know

people

> want

> > results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to go

the

> > artificial route. I looked at this site

> > http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-

nutrition.html

> > I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if not as

> > devastating sometimes in a sense.

> > But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized. When I

say

> > 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And

Vornan I

> > read what you wrote about going that route as well in October. It

> > appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely

natural

> > cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time.

Organic

> is

> > no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are

okay

> but

> > try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get

organic

> > eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there was a

> > quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it someday

by

> > artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet. I'm

> gonna

> > try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and do

> much

> > more research about organic health foods. It says on that link

> that " A

> > word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who have

been

> > on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went on

a

> > total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was less

> than

> > 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are this

will

> > work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I could't help but smile about your erection and libido boost. Hooray for you!!!!!!!!!! You're on your way to healing. Where can I read about the diet change? My hubby ONLY drinks diet soda and beer 3 x a week. And nothing organic - - - -

[Guest guest]

I have been eating nothing but organic carrots, organic eggs, organic

sunflower seeds, and tons of other organic stuff and tons of water.

Plus I have been exercising at a minimal level to keep the flow

moving. Organic can be expensive but it is definitely worth it. You

get more nutrients and less toxins. In addition I am no longer taking

multivitamins and minimizing intake of any herbs. I just got a strong

desire to have sex after looking at a picture of a girl on the

internet. This was a strong libido and erection not just an erection

almost like I was in heat. Plus I actually got this erection without

manually stimulating it and this is the first time in a long time this

happened where I got strong libido with an erection. I only started

this diet for two days and I'm already seeing very promising results.

Water is very essential for increasing libido as well I have read. My

body is still detoxifying in this stage and I didn't expect this so

soon. I also listen to music to stimulate my dopamine. I read music

increases dopamine as well which makes sense why the ravers take

ecstasy and listen to trance music. They are working their serotonin

and dopamine at the same time for a double high. That is the music I

am really into even though I never did recreational drugs like X just

drugs that can f*k you up just as much in a sense. I listen to real

trance not cheesy trance. I recommend the follwing site for a dopamine

boost of trance http://www.di.fm/ and to follow a very strict organic

diet. I still believe the brain can heal and regenerate itself if you

work it the right way long enough.

> > >

> > > I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There is

> no

> > > easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know

> people

> > want

> > > results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to go

> the

> > > artificial route. I looked at this site

> > > http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-

> nutrition.html

> > > I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if not as

> > > devastating sometimes in a sense.

> > > But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized. When I

> say

> > > 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And

> Vornan I

> > > read what you wrote about going that route as well in October. It

> > > appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely

> natural

> > > cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time.

> Organic

> > is

> > > no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are

> okay

> > but

> > > try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get

> organic

> > > eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there was a

> > > quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it someday

> by

> > > artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet. I'm

> > gonna

> > > try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and do

> > much

> > > more research about organic health foods. It says on that link

> > that " A

> > > word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who have

> been

> > > on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went on

> a

> > > total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was less

> > than

> > > 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are this

> will

> > > work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you're doing great. If you're doing so well at this

point you will probably fully recover.

Vornan

> > > >

> > > > I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There

is

> > no

> > > > easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know

> > people

> > > want

> > > > results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to

go

> > the

> > > > artificial route. I looked at this site

> > > > http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-

> > nutrition.html

> > > > I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if

not as

> > > > devastating sometimes in a sense.

> > > > But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized.

When I

> > say

> > > > 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And

> > Vornan I

> > > > read what you wrote about going that route as well in

October. It

> > > > appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely

> > natural

> > > > cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time.

> > Organic

> > > is

> > > > no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are

> > okay

> > > but

> > > > try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get

> > organic

> > > > eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there

was a

> > > > quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it

someday

> > by

> > > > artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet.

I'm

> > > gonna

> > > > try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and

do

> > > much

> > > > more research about organic health foods. It says on that

link

> > > that " A

> > > > word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who

have

> > been

> > > > on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went

on

> > a

> > > > total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was

less

> > > than

> > > > 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are

this

> > will

> > > > work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is the end of my first week of the 100% organic diet. I noticed

an increase in libido as well as erections. Since quitting 3 months

ago I had basically a 0 libido and barely ever got erections. I still

haven't gotten morning erections yet but I get more spontaneous ones

and feel urges a little more. This all happened in 1 week. Overall

there is a difference and I'm going to take this further. This diet is

very difficult to maintain but I feel it is worth it if there is any

improvement. The foods we eat contain healing powers to them like

anti-oxidants which can kill free radicals as well as possibly change

our cells back I believe. I also take foods that are abundant in

Omega-3 such as organic eggs and organic olive oil which contains

1200mg of omega-3 a serving which is more than the eggs themselves

which contain 225 mg of omega-3. I think taking 1 vitamin a week is

enough on this diet. Hopefully the improvement continues as I still

have a long way to go to get back to normal.

Take care everyone

~nuretronics

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been doing a lot of thinking and soul searching. There

> is

> > > no

> > > > > easy fix in life and basically this may take time. I know

> > > people

> > > > want

> > > > > results right away as do I and if nothing works I may have to

> go

> > > the

> > > > > artificial route. I looked at this site

> > > > > http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-diet-and-

> > > nutrition.html

> > > > > I know it to heal cancer but what we have can be almost if

> not as

> > > > > devastating sometimes in a sense.

> > > > > But 100% organic diet and exercise should be emphasized.

> When I

> > > say

> > > > > 100% organic I mean like hard core nothing artificial. And

> > > Vornan I

> > > > > read what you wrote about going that route as well in

> October. It

> > > > > appears not many if any on this site have tried a completely

> > > natural

> > > > > cure with pure organic foods for extended periods of time.

> > > Organic

> > > > is

> > > > > no pesticides and grown from the ground. I suppose meats are

> > > okay

> > > > but

> > > > > try to get as much organic as possible and if you can't get

> > > organic

> > > > > eat all natural with no artificial crap in it. I wish there

> was a

> > > > > quick fix to this and maybe the drug companies can do it

> someday

> > > by

> > > > > artificial means but I am going to try to go with this diet.

> I'm

> > > > gonna

> > > > > try to force myself to follow the guidelines on that link and

> do

> > > > much

> > > > > more research about organic health foods. It says on that

> link

> > > > that " A

> > > > > word of warning. In reading the testimonials of people who

> have

> > > been

> > > > > on these diets, the diets were not successful until they went

> on

> > > a

> > > > > total, 100% raw food diet. As long as the raw food diet was

> less

> > > > than

> > > > > 100%, nothing worked. " Don't know how good the chances are

> this

> > > will

> > > > > work but its worth a shot. All the best~nuretronics

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Glad to hear of your improvement. I was just thinking - you mentioned you were off your meds 3 months by now and you are beginning to feel some improvement. I know you are working hard to be diligent about your organic diet. I think that's so great. Wish my husband was that disaplined. Here's my question, do you attribute your improvement to the diet or do you think that maybe you are just naturally healing with time? As I read some people heal spontaeously over some months or even years.

[Guest guest]

Hey, did you try getting something in writing from Forest labs about

the long-term effects of lexapro. You never got back to me about that.

If you don't want to do, maybe somebody else could try.

Luther?

I know they won't give it to me because they know who I am after I've

called them so many times.

Vornan

>

> Glad to hear of your improvement. I was just thinking - you

mentioned you

> were off your meds 3 months by now and you are beginning to feel

some

> improvement. I know you are working hard to be diligent about your

organic diet. I

> think that's so great. Wish my husband was that disaplined. Here's

my question,

> do you attribute your improvement to the diet or do you think that

maybe you

> are just naturally healing with time? As I read some people heal

> spontaeously over some months or even years.

>

[Guest guest]

No I didn't try calling Forest again. I must admit I put it on the back burner while researching all these people that may be able to help hubby & me.I will get back to it. I'll let you know the outcome.

[Guest guest]

I have a difficult time believeing that diet alone can revese PSSD,

no matter how good the diet. You might just be one of the lucky

ones who has a brain able to reverse the damage. After all, you

started to recover very quickly compared to others, especially

considering the amount of time you were on the drugs.

Having said that that, I don't think anything can be ruled out.

Maybe it really does work. But unless more people try there is no

way of knowing -- because if it happens in only one person it could

just be coincidence. So I will try it myself just in case ther

really is something to it.

Vornan

> > >

> > > Glad to hear of your improvement. I was just thinking - you

> > mentioned you

> > > were off your meds 3 months by now and you are beginning to

feel

> > some

> > > improvement. I know you are working hard to be diligent about

your

> > organic diet. I

> > > think that's so great. Wish my husband was that disaplined.

Here's

> > my question,

> > > do you attribute your improvement to the diet or do you think

that

> > maybe you

> > > are just naturally healing with time? As I read some people

heal

> > > spontaeously over some months or even years.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The organic diet intrigues me, but I'm willing to bet you would have

gotten better anyway, as perhaps you don't have " pure " PSSD.

Everybody has temporary problems after withdrawing from SSRIs, some

get better within a couple months and some don't. You're probably

one of the fortunate ones. It is definitely something that is worth

a shot though.

Luther

> > >

> > > Glad to hear of your improvement. I was just thinking - you

> > mentioned you

> > > were off your meds 3 months by now and you are beginning to

feel

> > some

> > > improvement. I know you are working hard to be diligent about

your

> > organic diet. I

> > > think that's so great. Wish my husband was that disaplined.

Here's

> > my question,

> > > do you attribute your improvement to the diet or do you think

that

> > maybe you

> > > are just naturally healing with time? As I read some people

heal

> > > spontaeously over some months or even years.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

So I called Forest again. It just made me quite angry. I wonder how they train these "phamasists" to give you these stupid answers. I questioned them about how long it takes to regain your sexual functioning after being off the meds. The answer was ... it vareys from person to person. She says there hasn't been enough studies to give us that answer. Oh so instead treat people with it and use them as guinea pigs? She kept repeating the same thing over and over . . . ask your doctor how to treat your husband and it varies from person to person. She says it says in our brochures that you do run the risk of sexual dysfunction. Yes, but does it say that you run the risk of sexual dysfunction for a lifetime???? She suggested I go onto the American Psychological Ass. website and National Insttitute of Mental Health website. I suggest Forest Labs does a little more research before dispensing their product to people and destroying their lives!!!

I plan to find away of making more people aware of this. People must know they run the risk of being permenantly altered if they take a certain drug. If I could turn back time and take away that 4 months of Lexapro I would in a second! It never took away his problem - it only covered it up for a while.

It may sound really silly but I plan on writing to Oprah about this and Dateline. I know there are lots of different opinions of Oprah, and probably Dateline too, out there but I feel like I need to do something! I want help!

Be well - - - - - - - - -

[Guest guest]

Can't directly relate but I read men have 3 - 4 erections a night and sometimes wake up with erections (not everyday). So maybe your having the dreams AND the erections but your sleeping. So you wouldn't know about the erections. Do you wake up with erections sometimes? I THINK that's what's normal. Doesn't have to be everyday. But this is coming from a women who really doesn't know much!

Update on my hubby . . .although we don't talk about it, he told me he thinks he is improving. He says he gets erections sometimes in the morning. (don't know if that's wishful thinking - I never noticed one) But his libido is till dead - 100% dead. I'm really not putting any pressure on him to have sex at all for about a month. I told him to take time to recover and don't worry about our sex life. However, at the end of a months time I think we need to connect and "just do it". I don't want him to totally lose touch with his sexual side.

[Guest guest]

Would love to try it but husband would never try it. I am very curious as to how often he wakes with an erection but we do not discuss this. Very unhealthy for us, I know.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like your having progress. As long as there's improvement - it's a good thing. Good luck tomorrow night. Relax, have a good time, and think sexy thoughts!

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if I am improving now. I get more frequent erections than

before although not many but I still don't get erections in the

morning. Also I noticed I have been having wet dreams frequently about

4 times in the last 2 weeks since starting this diet. But I don't

think I am erect during the wet dreams I just have them and don't wake

up with an erection but they are definitely wet dreams. And one time I

got a wet dream a night after I masturbated. Does this happen to

anyone else on this site where they get wet dreams at all and not

getting erections? Also I notice that my wet dreams occur I think

because I take rich amounts of omega-3 in foods and in supplement

form. But I am still upset because I am still dysfunctional in a high

degree and I don't really know if I am healing or not. But maybe I am

healing just slowly. I think maybe it's the omega-3 thats doing all of

this and maybe it is kind of artificial even though it is natural

which I know is a contradiction. I might have to do this diet a long

long time to see real results which I might consider.

Please respond somebody

~take care nuretronics

>

> So I called Forest again. It just made me quite angry. I wonder how

they

> train these " phamasists " to give you these stupid answers. I

questioned them

> about how long it takes to regain your sexual functioning after

being off the

> meds. The answer was ... it vareys from person to person. She says

there hasn't

> been enough studies to give us that answer. Oh so instead treat

people with

> it and use them as guinea pigs? She kept repeating the same thing

over and

> over . . . ask your doctor how to treat your husband and it varies

from person

> to person. She says it says in our brochures that you do run the

risk of

> sexual dysfunction. Yes, but does it say that you run the risk of

sexual

> dysfunction for a lifetime???? She suggested I go onto the American

Psychological Ass.

> website and National Insttitute of Mental Health website. I suggest

Forest

> Labs does a little more research before dispensing their product to

people and

> destroying their lives!!!

>

> I plan to find away of making more people aware of this. People must

know

> they run the risk of being permenantly altered if they take a

certain drug. If I

> could turn back time and take away that 4 months of Lexapro I would

in a

> second! It never took away his problem - it only covered it up for

a while.

>

> It may sound really silly but I plan on writing to Oprah about this

and

> Dateline. I know there are lots of different opinions of Oprah, and

probably

> Dateline too, out there but I feel like I need to do something! I

want help!

>

> Be well - - - - - - - - -

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think I ever get erections in the morning and a healthy guy is

supposed to get one every morning at any age. I know its still early

this is week 2 but it would be nice to get one in the morning. I used

to get one all the time like when I had to pee etc in the morning even

all day now I never get it when I have to pee. There is definitely a

disconnect there but another note is when I see girls now and think

about sex I usually get pretty good erections. I feel I can get it up

much easier than before but I don't know. Also sometimes I stare at

pictures of girls and nothing its just dead down there. But at other

times I get erections. I might go out to a club tomorrow to see how

well its working but of course I won't drink. I never drank my whole

life really by the way. When a guy is close to a hot girl his

testosterone rises so I'll see if I made any concrete progress

tomorrow. Last time I was at the club I mentioned I didn't get an

erection all night.

>

> Can't directly relate but I read men have 3 - 4 erections a night and

> sometimes wake up with erections (not everyday). So maybe your

having the dreams

> AND the erections but your sleeping. So you wouldn't know about the

erections.

> Do you wake up with erections sometimes? I THINK that's what's

normal. Doesn't

> have to be everyday. But this is coming from a women who really

doesn't know

> much!

> Update on my hubby . . .although we don't talk about it, he told me he

> thinks he is improving. He says he gets erections sometimes in the

morning. (don't

> know if that's wishful thinking - I never noticed one) But his

libido is

> till dead - 100% dead. I'm really not putting any pressure on him to

have sex at

> all for about a month. I told him to take time to recover and don't

worry

> about our sex life. However, at the end of a months time I think we

need to

> connect and " just do it " . I don't want him to totally lose touch

with his

> sexual side.

>

[Guest guest]

This may sound unusual, but browsing online I found a suggested

way to check to see if you're having erections during the night.

Fashion a band out of tissue and place it around the organ so that an

increase in girth such as with an erection causes the tissue to break.

If you wake up with the band broken you know that an erection has

occurred. There are obvious weaknesses such as the tissue is delicate,

but consistent breakage indicates activity. " Halfway theres " , which are

what I'm left with after 16 years on Prozac, would also break the band.

Jap71768@... wrote:

> Can't directly relate but I read men have 3 - 4 erections a night and

> sometimes wake up with erections (not everyday). So maybe your having

> the dreams AND the erections but your sleeping. So you wouldn't know

> about the erections. Do you wake up with erections sometimes? I THINK

> that's what's normal. Doesn't have to be everyday. But this is coming

> from a women who really doesn't know much!

> Update on my hubby . . .although we don't talk about it, he told me he

> thinks he is improving. He says he gets erections sometimes in the

> morning. (don't know if that's wishful thinking - I never noticed one)

> But his libido is till dead - 100% dead. I'm really not putting any

> pressure on him to have sex at all for about a month. I told him to

> take time to recover and don't worry about our sex life. However, at

> the end of a months time I think we need to connect and " just do it " .

> I don't want him to totally lose touch with his sexual side.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not going out tonite bc I am depressed. I found a video of this

however. How to cure diabetes naturally with foods. I think I am going

to cut out all sugars except from fruit. No more organic oj or organic

lemonade. I still think I have improved but it felt like a higher

level last week. I slacked off on the extremely good stuff even though

I am eating still very healthy. I have to take it more extreme and eat

healthy healthy which means no more processed organic chips or milk.

This is a true test of willpower.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1407054601065907544

>

> Sounds like your having progress. As long as there's improvement -

it's a

> good thing. Good luck tomorrow night. Relax, have a good time, and

think sexy

> thoughts!

>

[Guest guest]

Her responses spund typical. Did you ask her for anything in

writing?

>

> So I called Forest again. It just made me quite angry. I wonder

how they

> train these " phamasists " to give you these stupid answers. I

questioned them

> about how long it takes to regain your sexual functioning after

being off the

> meds. The answer was ... it vareys from person to person. She says

there hasn't

> been enough studies to give us that answer. Oh so instead treat

people with

> it and use them as guinea pigs? She kept repeating the same thing

over and

> over . . . ask your doctor how to treat your husband and it

varies from person

> to person. She says it says in our brochures that you do run the

risk of

> sexual dysfunction. Yes, but does it say that you run the risk of

sexual

> dysfunction for a lifetime???? She suggested I go onto the

American Psychological Ass.

> website and National Insttitute of Mental Health website. I

suggest Forest

> Labs does a little more research before dispensing their product

to people and

> destroying their lives!!!

>

> I plan to find away of making more people aware of this. People

must know

> they run the risk of being permenantly altered if they take a

certain drug. If I

> could turn back time and take away that 4 months of Lexapro I

would in a

> second! It never took away his problem - it only covered it up

for a while.

>

> It may sound really silly but I plan on writing to Oprah about

this and

> Dateline. I know there are lots of different opinions of Oprah,

and probably

> Dateline too, out there but I feel like I need to do something! I

want help!

>

> Be well - - - - - - - - -

>

[Guest guest]

I think when I was speaking to her she had the phone away from her ear and she just recited the same thing over and over. I asked her if she could give me her statements in writing and she refused. I think the first time I would've ahd a better chance. However, I didn't realize I should've asked for anthing.

[Guest guest]

Okay my sex drive is 0 again. I hate life so much right now and have

no point of living. I'm 22 years old I don't drink or smoke and in

excellent physical shape and can not even get a erection. After the

first week I had a small drive and then it goes right back down to 0.

How does this happen. Also I didn't cheat at all on this diet. Today I

bought l-arginine and phosphatidyl serine out of frustration. I read

phosphatidyl serine can repair damage to nucleus and is for regulating

existing dopamine. It is also great for reducing cortisol something

the SSRIs made us produce too much. I need more dopamine which is the

main problem. I think we should work a thread on all the possible ways

to increase dopamine naturally and with supplements. I'm also taking a

shitload of omega-3. I think that was why I did good the first week

because the omega-3 abundance was new to my system. Now that my body

got used to the supplement its no longer as effective. However I think

taking it could still be beneficial despite it not producing a big

effect sexually anymore. Its something people recommend taking

everyday. Also I think our brains aren't producing enough dopamine.

After reading a bit about adderall it doesn't sound too bad a drug and

I see it really hits us with dopamine for the effect. I would take

phosphatidyl serine with it probably if I ever get my hands on it to

regulate my dopamine with the drug. Cutting out all artificial sugars

could also be a possible reason I'm doing worse. Sugar increases

dopamine and I need a high right now.

I'm not ever going to enjoy life unless my sex drive returns.

~pz nuretronics

> >

> > Maybe because it will " only " be 2 months as of this wednesday, it is

> still

> > too soon for husband to feel comfortable enough to discuss it with

> me. I wish

> > he would try your idea about working on this somehow. I think the

> porn idea is

> > a good one. He could try to " wake " himself up. He just seems to be

> ignoring

> > it. And I am obcessing about it. He won't even try. He just waits

> to improve.

> > But there is NO improvement at all. My new stupid thought is he

was on

> > Lexapro 20mgs for 4 months then he needs 4 months off for

> improvement. Stupid -

> > but I have to have hope!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Okay my sex drive is 0 again. I hate life so much right now and have

> no point of living. I'm 22 years old I don't drink or smoke and in

> excellent physical shape and can not even get a erection. After the

> first week I had a small drive and then it goes right back down to 0.

> How does this happen. Also I didn't cheat at all on this diet. Today I

> bought l-arginine and phosphatidyl serine out of frustration. I read

> phosphatidyl serine can repair damage to nucleus and is for regulating

> existing dopamine. It is also great for reducing cortisol something

> the SSRIs made us produce too much. I need more dopamine which is the

> main problem. I think we should work a thread on all the possible ways

> to increase dopamine naturally and with supplements. I'm also taking a

> shitload of omega-3. I think that was why I did good the first week

> because the omega-3 abundance was new to my system. Now that my body

> got used to the supplement its no longer as effective. However I think

> taking it could still be beneficial despite it not producing a big

> effect sexually anymore. Its something people recommend taking

> everyday. Also I think our brains aren't producing enough dopamine.

> After reading a bit about adderall it doesn't sound too bad a drug and

> I see it really hits us with dopamine for the effect. I would take

> phosphatidyl serine with it probably if I ever get my hands on it to

> regulate my dopamine with the drug. Cutting out all artificial sugars

> could also be a possible reason I'm doing worse. Sugar increases

> dopamine and I need a high right now.

>

> I'm not ever going to enjoy life unless my sex drive returns.

> ~pz nuretronics

I'm 23 years old and started Adderall about 6 months ago, then Zoloft

two weeks ago.

The adderall basically just makes your erection last longer (not sure

if it helps you actually get one in the first place). Taking adderall

will DECREASE your desire to have sex but, for me, doesn't really

impair my ability to actually perform.

There are many other ways to increase your dopamine levels without

adderall. Adderall not only increase dopamine but also norepinephrine

(adrenaline). It's going to keep you awake for days and is extremely

addictive, as well as killing your appetite and making you paranoid.

The only thing you should EVER use adderall for is the inability to

concentrate due to ADHD/ADD. Adderall is basically the pharmaceutical

version of cocaine. Also you will never ever get a prescription for it

without being diagnosed with ADHD from a psychiatrist. Adderall is

classified as a type II drug, the same classification as morphine and

cocaine.

Also in the long term adderall can actually decrease your dopamine

levels and lead to depression (which is the reason I started taking

zoloft in the first place). Adderall is what's called a reuptake

inhibitor. It doesn't actually increase how much dopamine your brain

produces, it just prevents your brain from getting rid of the dopamine

that is already there. Some doctors claim that the brain responds to

this by making less dopamine to begin with, which is probably why

former cocaine addicts have a problem with depression.

Adderall is NOT a solution to any type of sexual problem. I'm pretty

sure there are drugs made specifically for that.

[Guest guest]

Even though it doesn't increase dopamine coming Adderal in it

essentially increases the amount by flooding your brain with dopamine

that it actually already has. It prevents the reuptake of

nuerotransmitters much like SSRIs except instead of serontonin it is

dopamine. So if you were to increase your dopamine while taking it

like smoking a cigarrete or taking chocolate it would saturate that

dopamine and it would stay in your system much longer. However

Adderall is essentially a legal form of a drug like Methamphetamine.

And I definitely would not take Adderall unless I was in the situation

I am in now. The difference is Adderall is more regulated (yeah

right). I read that meth users nueronal receptor sites are shutdown

after chronic use. Because meth has a chemical that mimics the

dopamine structure and gets in the brain and floods it with 6 times

the " normal " dopamine you could produce on your own. The high is also

3 and a half times that of cocaine and lasts up to 12 hours instead of

a half hour. In the video I watched on Meth it says the over-activity

of those sites after long use causes the brain to shut the overloaded

neurons. Could SSRIs have caused so much inactivity or overactivity

that many of our neuron receptors shut down as well? Also I read that

our cells become cork screw shaped in experiments done with rats from

SSRIs. We need to work on nueron structure as well to even activate

more dopamine. So many things are wrong and only lots and lots of

brain scans can determine it.

> I'm 23 years old and started Adderall about 6 months ago, then Zoloft

> two weeks ago.

>

> The adderall basically just makes your erection last longer (not sure

> if it helps you actually get one in the first place). Taking adderall

> will DECREASE your desire to have sex but, for me, doesn't really

> impair my ability to actually perform.

>

> There are many other ways to increase your dopamine levels without

> adderall. Adderall not only increase dopamine but also norepinephrine

> (adrenaline). It's going to keep you awake for days and is extremely

> addictive, as well as killing your appetite and making you paranoid.

> The only thing you should EVER use adderall for is the inability to

> concentrate due to ADHD/ADD. Adderall is basically the pharmaceutical

> version of cocaine. Also you will never ever get a prescription for it

> without being diagnosed with ADHD from a psychiatrist. Adderall is

> classified as a type II drug, the same classification as morphine and

> cocaine.

>

> Also in the long term adderall can actually decrease your dopamine

> levels and lead to depression (which is the reason I started taking

> zoloft in the first place). Adderall is what's called a reuptake

> inhibitor. It doesn't actually increase how much dopamine your brain

> produces, it just prevents your brain from getting rid of the dopamine

> that is already there. Some doctors claim that the brain responds to

> this by making less dopamine to begin with, which is probably why

> former cocaine addicts have a problem with depression.

>

> Adderall is NOT a solution to any type of sexual problem. I'm pretty

> sure there are drugs made specifically for that.

>