Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece He is NOT disgraced - they should be ashamed........................ Sacrificing himself for others? The Times and UK GMC have no idea how to do such a thing. " It is believed that The Lancet retraction was as damaging to Wakefield’s profile in the United States as the GMC inquiry " HARDLY " It has also emerged that Arthur Krigsman, director of the gastroenterology clinic at Thoughtful House, has stepped down in recent weeks. The departure is not thought to be directly related to Wakefield’s situation. " How tragic................ From Jane , mentioned in above article.......... " The needs of the children we serve must always come first. All of us at Thoughtful House are grateful to Dr. Wakefield for the valuable work he has done here. We fully support his decision to leave Thoughtful House in order to make sure that the controversy surrounding the recent findings of the General Medical Council does not interfere with the important work that our dedicated team of clinicians and researchers is doing on behalf of children with autism and their families. All of us at Thoughtful House continue to fight every day for the recovery of children with developmental disorders. We will continue to do our very best to accomplish our mission by combining the most up-to-date treatments and important clinical research that will help to shape the understanding of these conditions that are affecting an ever-increasing number of children worldwide. Jane " Sheri Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 But what is the story behind the story? Was he forced out? If so, by whom? And Krigsman, now? What's up with that? And the withdrawn monkey study? Why is there such a deafening silence on that? Really, inquiring minds want to know! > > > <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece>http:\ //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece > > He is NOT disgraced - they should be ashamed........................ > > Sacrificing himself for others? The Times and UK GMC have no idea > how to do such a thing. > > " It is believed that The Lancet retraction was as damaging to > Wakefield's profile in the United States as the GMC inquiry " > > HARDLY > > " It has also emerged that Arthur Krigsman, director of the > gastroenterology clinic at Thoughtful House, has stepped down in > recent weeks. The departure is not thought to be directly related to > Wakefield's situation. " > > How tragic................ > > From Jane , mentioned in above article.......... > " > The needs of the children we serve must always come first. All of us > at Thoughtful House are grateful to Dr. Wakefield for the valuable > work he has done here. We fully support his decision to leave > Thoughtful House in order to make sure that the controversy > surrounding the recent findings of the General Medical Council does > not interfere with the important work that our dedicated team of > clinicians and researchers is doing on behalf of children with autism > and their families. All of us at Thoughtful House continue to fight > every day for the recovery of children with developmental disorders. > We will continue to do our very best to accomplish our mission by > combining the most up-to-date treatments and important clinical > research that will help to shape the understanding of these > conditions that are affecting an ever-increasing number of children worldwide. > Jane " > > > Sheri > > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email > courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I know, but Jane - benefactor of the clinic...........says......... > From Jane , mentioned in above article.......... > " > The needs of the children we serve must always come first. All of us > at Thoughtful House are grateful to Dr. Wakefield for the valuable > work he has done here. We fully support his decision to leave > Thoughtful House in order to make sure that the controversy > surrounding the recent findings of the General Medical Council does > not interfere with the important work that our dedicated team of > clinicians and researchers is doing on behalf of children with autism > and their families. All of us at Thoughtful House continue to fight > every day for the recovery of children with developmental disorders. > We will continue to do our very best to accomplish our mission by > combining the most up-to-date treatments and important clinical > research that will help to shape the understanding of these > conditions that are affecting an ever-increasing number of children worldwide. > Jane " >But what is the story behind the story? Was he forced out? If so, by >whom? And Krigsman, now? What's up with that? > >And the withdrawn monkey study? Why is there such a deafening silence on that? > >Really, inquiring minds want to know! > > > > > > > > > <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece>http:\ //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece > > > > He is NOT disgraced - they should be ashamed........................ > > > > Sacrificing himself for others? The Times and UK GMC have no idea > > how to do such a thing. > > > > " It is believed that The Lancet retraction was as damaging to > > Wakefield's profile in the United States as the GMC inquiry " > > > > HARDLY > > > > " It has also emerged that Arthur Krigsman, director of the > > gastroenterology clinic at Thoughtful House, has stepped down in > > recent weeks. The departure is not thought to be directly related to > > Wakefield's situation. " > > > > How tragic................ > > > > From Jane , mentioned in above article.......... > > " > > The needs of the children we serve must always come first. All of us > > at Thoughtful House are grateful to Dr. Wakefield for the valuable > > work he has done here. We fully support his decision to leave > > Thoughtful House in order to make sure that the controversy > > surrounding the recent findings of the General Medical Council does > > not interfere with the important work that our dedicated team of > > clinicians and researchers is doing on behalf of children with autism > > and their families. All of us at Thoughtful House continue to fight > > every day for the recovery of children with developmental disorders. > > We will continue to do our very best to accomplish our mission by > > combining the most up-to-date treatments and important clinical > > research that will help to shape the understanding of these > > conditions that are affecting an ever-increasing number of > children worldwide. > > Jane " > > > > > > Sheri > > > > > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email > > courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 It is a deafening silence for sure that is disgusting imho! My online response: Political correctness comes in all forms. I would have to agree with Ramona that this is NOT the time for Thoughtful House to be hiding behind the rhetoric of `serving our children'. This same language is used daily to justify the continued injury of our children. It pervades our broken health care system to justify protecting pregnant women, elders and other at risk with the same toxic substances. The big bucks of the pharmaceutical industry have wrought a travesty in this matter that will only be settled in the annals of history. They launched a professional hanging squad in a country too willing to betray one its finest, most ethical professionals. Only the moms and dads on the front lines of autism have stood steadfastly in Dr. Wakefield's defense there. I applaud them and hope all of us here in that role do likewise. The disappearance of Dr. Wakefield's research from the Lancet and other publications serves to illustrate how deeply entwined those professional journals are with the money drives their advertising departments and sustains their printed words. They have overtly divulged their moral bankruptcy and lack of scientific consciousness. I, for one, am sorry to learn that Thoughtful House is using the same careful posturing that has occurred throughout history when major adjustments threatened the status quo. It ill becomes you. Semmelweis promulgated hand washing; Columbus embarked on a sea covering a flat earth; Galileo dared to reposition the planet earth; Hitler screamed racial supremacy; the scenario is all too familiar. Derision, banishment, inquisition, and personal peril permeate them all. Genocide results when the common person turns away from what the ethical compass points to as true. We all know the moral and ethical heart of this matter. The outrage should be loud and clear. It should come from all of us –from those whose children may never see a healthy day again, from those whose children have benefited from Dr. Wakefield's work, from those whose children have passed into the daylight of recovery, from the professionals who treat our children, and most of all from the corporate groups such as Thoughtful House who profess to have our children's best interest in mind. Fear of reprisal did not did not motivate Dr. Wakefield. It should not keep us silent. I remain deeply disappointed. > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece>http:\ //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7032762.ece > > > > > > He is NOT disgraced - they should be ashamed........................ > > > > > > Sacrificing himself for others? The Times and UK GMC have no idea > > > how to do such a thing. > > > > > > " It is believed that The Lancet retraction was as damaging to > > > Wakefield's profile in the United States as the GMC inquiry " > > > > > > HARDLY > > > > > > " It has also emerged that Arthur Krigsman, director of the > > > gastroenterology clinic at Thoughtful House, has stepped down in > > > recent weeks. The departure is not thought to be directly related to > > > Wakefield's situation. " > > > > > > How tragic................ > > > > > > From Jane , mentioned in above article.......... > > > " From: " jbjnycgbw " <jbjnycgbw@> > > > The needs of the children we serve must always come first. All of us > > > at Thoughtful House are grateful to Dr. Wakefield for the valuable > > > work he has done here. We fully support his decision to leave > > > Thoughtful House in order to make sure that the controversy > > > surrounding the recent findings of the General Medical Council does > > > not interfere with the important work that our dedicated team of > > > clinicians and researchers is doing on behalf of children with autism > > > and their families. All of us at Thoughtful House continue to fight > > > every day for the recovery of children with developmental disorders. > > > We will continue to do our very best to accomplish our mission by > > > combining the most up-to-date treatments and important clinical > > > research that will help to shape the understanding of these > > > conditions that are affecting an ever-increasing number of > > children worldwide. > > > Jane " > > > > > > > > > Sheri > > > > > > > > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > > > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > > > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > > > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email > > > courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha! Candyce Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Candyce is right. Various advocates are coming together around this and rest assured that Andy Wakefield will be adequately supported by our community. More details and announcements to come. Stay tuned. Lenny > > He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha! > Candyce > > > Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic > > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Any publicity is good publicity... He is more popular than ever.. It will make our community stronger. We are one step closer to success and remediation.. This is a positive for our side of the battle. Inch by inch..... Candyce Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic> > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I beleive at this moment time , we are know in " Autism War " , it is now in the open. The pharmaceutical industrial complex and the vaccine scientific establishement have made this very clear , in regards to there action associated to Dr.Wakefield . The Wakefield affair , demonstrate in a very blunt manner , what these organisations are prepared to do , and highlight that they will act in a unethical and unlawful manner to reach there objective. Pierre , > > > > He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha! > > Candyce > > > > > > Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic > > > > > > > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The Moms of gardasil children have joined the fight. We are coming together! Time will tell where this goes To: EOHarm Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 5:40:02 AMSubject: Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic I beleive at this moment time , we are know in " Autism War" , it is now in the open.The pharmaceutical industrial complex and the vaccine scientific establishement have made this very clear , in regards to there action associated to Dr.Wakefield .The Wakefield affair , demonstrate in a very blunt manner , what these organisations are prepared to do , and highlight that they will act in a unethical and unlawful manner to reach there objective.Pierre , > >> > He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha!> > Candyce> > > > > > Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic> > > > > > > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him.> >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I am ashamed that he was so close and we have not been to see him. But I will take her for a checkup and then we will have a card for him that letshim know. Thoughtful House in austin has the best answers and she needs help.We must remember that a clinic near Thoughtful House that was doing great thingswas suddenly closed down by the federal government for absolutely no good reason. He is being proactive and protecting others from harmusing what shields he can for this battle; the war against pharmaceutical tyrantswhose care is only for the dollar will come when parentsare more aware, and we must be part of letting them know, as we are able. Andwe need another Evidence of Harm author, or another Evidence of Harmbook by our author. He must live, however.What was the name of the new book? Seek Spiritual Results, Lis A. Pineau"Seek peace and pursue it" ~Psalm 34:14http://bp0.blogger.com/_ci83y06mpmA/RmOGujyNp9I/AAAAAAAAAAM/jOMJq7YwuFA/s1600-h/Y+Best+Canoe+shot.JPGTo: EOHarm Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 11:02:47 PMSubject: Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic Candyce is right. Various advocates are coming together around this and rest assured that Andy Wakefield will be adequately supported by our community. More details and announcements to come. Stay tuned. Lenny > > He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha! > Candyce > > > Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic > > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ugh this makes me sick! It is very hard for me to sit and listen to others who say “it is now been proven vaccines do not cause autism.†I still believe there is a trigger whether it be aluminum, formaldehyde, or what but there is something there. Oh my! I wish him all the very best. Aley From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Pineau Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:37 AM To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic I am ashamed that he was so close and we have not been to see him. But I will take her for a checkup and then we will have a card for him that lets him know. Thoughtful House in austin has the best answers and she needs help. We must remember that a clinic near Thoughtful House that was doing great things was suddenly closed down by the federal government for absolutely no good reason. He is being proactive and protecting others from harm using what shields he can for this battle; the war against pharmaceutical tyrants whose care is only for the dollar will come when parents are more aware, and we must be part of letting them know, as we are able. And we need another Evidence of Harm author, or another Evidence of Harm book by our author. He must live, however. What was the name of the new book? Seek Spiritual Results, Lis A. Pineau " Seek peace and pursue it " ~Psalm 34:14 http://bp0.blogger.com/_ci83y06mpmA/RmOGujyNp9I/AAAAAAAAAAM/jOMJq7YwuFA/s1600-h/Y+Best+Canoe+shot.JPG From: schaferatsprynet To: EOHarm Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 11:02:47 PM Subject: Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic Candyce is right. Various advocates are coming together around this and rest assured that Andy Wakefield will be adequately supported by our community. More details and announcements to come. Stay tuned. Lenny > > He will pop up in another area, where he will be of even more benefit for our families.. It isn't the end of Wakefield. He is an expert in this field. We haven't seen the end of him! He rocks and he knows of his profound contribution to the autism community. He won't quit us, ever! Maybe he needs time to regroup. He'll be back. betcha! > Candyce > > > Re:Wakefield resigns US clinic > > > > > Thoughtful House is Andy Wakefield. I simply can't imagine it without him. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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