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Hello,

Welcome to the group. You will find such a great support here. I am 43

and since 1998 I have been diagnosed with Sjogrens, SLE, RA, Spinal

Stenosis, Asthma and Fibromyalgia. I have taken Methotrexate off and

on for about 6 years now. I was on for the past few weeks, but I got

sick and ended up in the hospital. Be really careful not to get around

anyone who is sick. The med will lower your immune system. Also, be

careful not to cut your self, it could get infected quickly. The med

will make you kind of tired at times. Just hang in there and know that

you are not alone. I am here for you and there are so many others that

understand what you are going through. Blessings and Prayers to you.

Robin

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> Hi, I am newly diagnosed with RA at the tender age of 41, just

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> methotrexate last week. Don't really know what to talk about, just

> glad to know I'm in a big boat with others.

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Welcome to the group, I am still a newbie here to, I was diagnosed in Oct.

of 2005,with RA,and DJD.Done had methotrexate and predisone,had to move on

to Plaqunil, and Doxycycline,and Enbrel,been on Enbrel for a month.

You will find alot of caring,loving people in this group.God Bless and have

a painfree day.

Rhonda

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Welcome to the group! The people here are very caring

and supportive, and there is always lots of great

information.

I was dx at 45 (seven years ago) with RA, and then

Raynaud's, and then Fibromyalgia, and then OA. So,

the dx just seem to keep coming - hope I'm done! Has

your doctor started you on any medications for the RA?

Aggressive and early treatment is the best way to

fight this disease. I am currently on Methotrexate,

Enbrel and Ultram ER. I also take medications for

Fibro, asthma, and high blood pressure. Not exactly

the way I thought my " golden years " would be, but I am

doing fairly well with the medications I am on. My RA

is under good control, but not the fibro,

unfortunately.

What would you like to know? You can ask anything

here, and somebody is bound to have an answer for you.

and a, our moderators, are always terrific at

finding out information we need. If you have anything

that you need help with right away - just say so in

your subject line - like ASAP or HELP! - and that will

be answered as fast as we can.

This is a wonderful group, and I have learned so much

here - I have been a member for about 4 years now -

and I know you will enjoy being with us. By the way,

what is your name?

Kathe in CA

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Dear Wantstobeonvacation,

I have dx recently with RA at 31years old. I also take Methotrexate and

Hydroxycloroquine. It took awhile to get used to the Mx but I'm doing good now.

I have more good days than bad this summer, but I'm a little nervous about

winter since last winter was not so good. Welcome to the group.

Meredith in Canada

Hi, I am newly diagnosed with RA at the tender age of 41, just started

methotrexate last week. Don't really know what to talk about, just

glad to know I'm in a big boat with others.

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Hi, sorry you have to be here, but happy to meet you.

I've been on methotrexate, 20mg oral weekly, for coming up on two years

now. I haven't had any real problems with it. But you do have to be

careful, because it suppresses your immune system. I also take folic acid,

1mg daily, and leucovorin (which I think is folinic acid?) 8 hours after the

methotrexate, to help with the side effect. Some fatigue, and I was losing

hair until I started that.

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Most rheumatologists prescribe the two together because the MTX

depletes the folic acid in your body. Adding folic replaces what is

lost and reduces side effects from MTX. Many of us find that it helps

with energy. In answer to your question: Yes, I believe people taking

MTX should also take prescription strength folic acid--at least 1 mg.

daily.

Sierra

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MTX sloughs off Folic Acid, so it does need to be replaced. Most Rheumies

prescribe it along with MTX, or that's my impression. You must take Folic

Acid to replace what your body is losing, it even helps stop hair loss. I'm

taking 25 mg injectable MTX and as much as 5 mg (per day) of Folic Acid with

it.

Dennis in Eastexas

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> Most rheumatologists prescribe the two together because the MTX

> depletes the folic acid in your body. Adding folic replaces what is

> lost and reduces side effects from MTX. Many of us find that it helps

> with energy. In answer to your question: Yes, I believe people taking

> MTX should also take prescription strength folic acid--at least 1 mg.

> daily.

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-TRudy,

A lot of us have fibro as well as RA and with this sleep is very

ellusive...a good night fo me is 2-3 straight hours of sleep without

waking up. I often post at 3 or 4 am...of course my typing isn't that

great at that hour...but we don't take off points for typos here!!!

jenna

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> depletes the folic acid in your body. Adding folic replaces what is

> lost and reduces side effects from MTX. Many of us find that it

helps

> with energy. In answer to your question: Yes, I believe people

taking

> MTX should also take prescription strength folic acid--at least 1

mg.

> daily.

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> > folic acid? should I be? I have noticed a few messages mention

both?

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Hi and Welcome, !

This is a wonderful group with very friendly,

supportive and informative people. I know that you

will find a home here.

I also have Fibromyalgia, so I can understand the pain

that you must be going through, and the fatigue which

can be absolutely relentlous. I take medication for

my fibro which has proven helpful and includes

Cymbalta, Lyrica, Ambien CR, Skelaxin, and Zanaflex.

These meds have helped with the muscle spasms,

peripheral neuropathy-like pains in my legs, and help

me to sleep better. Are you on any meds for your

fibro?

I also have RA, OA and Raynauds. And take meds for

asthma and high blood pressure too. My husband had to

put up a cabinent in our bathrooom for just our

medications and vitamins, etc! My side is much larger

than his side, just like our closet! lol

There is a lot of frustration and depression

associated with these diseases, as they completely

turn our lives upside down, and we never know where we

will end up, what joint or body part will be painful,

how the fatigue will be affecting us, can we talk

right and our comprehension skills are the pitts

anymore, not to mention the times I have put the

leftovers in with the pots and the peanut butter in

the diswasher - fibro fog strikes again!

Ask any questions you like, vent, or just come here

for support - we are here for you and truly do

understand what you are going through - take care -

Kathe in CA

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> much as I receive from the group.

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http://www.cranialtech.com/ they are who my son simon had his band through they are great and they only do the bands so they are used to babies and they are great with them. cranial tech does free evaluations so find the one nearest you and give them a call. simon had his band for 11 weeks http://birds.lemonyfresh.com/gallery/Simon/simon9_21_06_2 he graduated on 9-22-06.

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On 11/4/06, bkbsfournier <bkbsfournier@...> wrote:

Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son in for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed my husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of holding my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He told my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old and had we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises and changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested that we have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor little man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor and his wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever heard of them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw, how do they interact with children?

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The starband that we will be getting from Orthotic Union here in

Pittsburgh Pa and the band cost 3,000 and they do accept insurance

if your insurance covers them. The site for the starband is

http://www.orthomerica.com/products/cranial/cranialindex.htm

is I'v talked to over 10 people who got the starband and saw great

results and that each kids head improved treamendously. My

daughter was scanned this past friday on a machine called

the " starscanner " and gave how asymmetry she was. It showed exactly

what severity her plagiocephaly was at, which was moderate and she

was a candidate for the starband. I meet 4 parrents at this site

that had there kids in the starband and said they see wonderful

results and that their kids liked the starband. You can get a

prescription from a neurosurgery dr. or an orthopedics or plastic

surgeon, and once you have the prescription then you can go for the

appointment at a cranial facitily. My daughter will be getting her

starband very soon and I'm happy I made the decision, cause between

5-16 months is the only time you will get the best results. My

place will not take kids after 18 months cause the starband will not

work, the growth spurt is best when they are infants to get

banded...so that is why I'm not waiting cause I did all the

aggressive therapy keeping her off the flat spot and it worked a

little but the starband will give better results.

Mom to daugther w/ plagiocepahly at 9 months

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Cranial Technologies is fantastic. I think you'll find them to be very helpful. Unfortunately, I must say that if your son has torticollis, the barbaric exercises are neccessary. :-( My ds has tort, as well, and really fought with the exercises in the beginning, but as his neck muscles loosened up a bit, they became MUCH easier to do. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with the (therapist ?). It's horrible that he was so short with you. My son wasn't dx'd until he was two months old, and even then I didn't really see what they were talking about until we went to pt for the first time at 3 mos. It would be incredibly difficult to catch it at one week old. Don't blame yourselves. I think you'll find the people on this group to be an incredible source of info and support. HTH. Candace, AZ mommy to Tiernan, 6 mos tort,

plagiobkbsfournier <bkbsfournier@...> wrote: Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son in for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed my husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of holding my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He told my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old and had we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now

considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises and changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested that we have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor little man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor and his wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever heard of them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw, how do they interact with children?

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Hello and welcome! I think that the man your husband spoke with

should not be working with people. Shame on him for saying you

should've caught it at 1 week. That's nearly impossible when you're

not even educated on what it is! We didn't notice it in my son

until he was 2 months. The exercises don't have to be barbaric. I

mean, sometimes they will seem that way, however, there are ways to

do them without your child screaming. I'm assuming that your son

has torticollis and plagio (mine too). Well, the trick with

stretching is to try to distract your son. Either hold a toy or try

to make a game out of the stretches. You can also try doing them

when he is asleep. Just gently and slowly tilt or turn his head

whichever way you need to while holding him in your arms. My son

was fitted with a DOCband by Cranial Technologies at 8 months old,

so I can tell you from personal experience that they are a very well

run company. The orthotists that I have seen have been

compassionate and nice. They also seem very experienced and

knowledgable. Where are you from? Maybe someone in your area can

reccommend and location or specific orthotist. Good luck and if you

have any more questions don't hesitate to ask!

, mom to Tyson (DOCband)

Chicago, IL

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> Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son

in

> for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed my

> husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of

holding

> my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He

told

> my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old

and had

> we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now

> considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises

and

> changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested

that we

> have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor

little

> man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor

and his

> wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever

heard of

> them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw,

how do

> they interact with children?

>

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HI my name is . My son is Chadwick he is 8 Months old with plagio. We went to Cranial Tech in Dallas Texas for a consultation. Everybody we dealt with was super nice...I have dealt with some pretty bad doctors also..Don't give up...I will keep ya'll in our prayers.....bkbsfournier <bkbsfournier@...> wrote: Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son in for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were

referred to showed my husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of holding my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He told my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old and had we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises and changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested that we have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor little man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor and his wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever heard of them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw, how do they interact with children? Mommy to Chadwick 7.5

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Thank you so much everyone for the kind words of encouragement.

Please allow me to introcduce myself which I should have done in the

first place. My name is Krissy I live in Arizona, I have a nearly 3

year old son Brycen and our newest addition is , who is 3

months old and has seemed to have a bit of a rough start. The place

we were referred to was Hanger, after a couple days of thought I may

have overreacted, I like any mommy does not want to hear that there

is something wrong with their child, although this person didn't seem

like the right choice for us so I'll call Cranial Technologies

tomorrow for an appointment. Any suggestions on explaining all this

to a 3 year old?

> >

> > Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son

> in

> > for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed

my

> > husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of

> holding

> > my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day.

He

> told

> > my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old

> and had

> > we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is

now

> > considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the

excercises

> and

> > changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested

> that we

> > have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor

> little

> > man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor

> and his

> > wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever

> heard of

> > them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw,

> how do

> > they interact with children?

> >

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im in az to so you would be going to the same ct that we went to we had wendy for almost all of our appointments. simon is an only child but from what i have read most older siblings want one to so some ppl buy them bike helmets hehe.

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On 11/5/06, bkbsfournier <bkbsfournier@...> wrote:

Thank you so much everyone for the kind words of encouragement. Please allow me to introcduce myself which I should have done in the first place. My name is Krissy I live in Arizona, I have a nearly 3 year old son Brycen and our newest addition is , who is 3 months old and has seemed to have a bit of a rough start. The place we were referred to was Hanger, after a couple days of thought I may have overreacted, I like any mommy does not want to hear that there

is something wrong with their child, although this person didn't seem like the right choice for us so I'll call Cranial Technologies tomorrow for an appointment. Any suggestions on explaining all this to a 3 year old?

> >> > Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son > in> > for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed my> > husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of > holding> > my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He > told> > my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old > and had> > we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now> > considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises > and> > changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested > that we> > have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor > little> > man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor > and his> > wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever > heard of> > them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw, > how do> > they interact with children?> >>

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Hi, Krissy. What part of AZ are you in? I am in Tucson. I have a three year old, as well, and he's actually been handeling everything very well. My ds has tort, as well as plagio, so we've been taking him to pt every week for the last three months. I told my three year old, Ethan, that Tiernan (the baby) has to see an "exercise doctor" to help make his neck nice and strong. We haven't put Tiernan in a helmet yet, although we are in the process, and I think the best way to explain it to my three year old was this: I gave him a mirror and let him see and feel his head and how nice and round it is. Then he got to feel my head and how round it is. Then, I let him look at and feel Tiernan's head and the flatness. I told him his brother might get to wear a special hat that is going to make his head nice and round just like his. I don't know how much he understood, and I won't know how effective it was

until we get the helmet, but for now he's happy with that explaination. HTH. Candace, AZ mommy to Tiernan, 6 mos tort, plagiobkbsfournier <bkbsfournier@...> wrote: Thank you so much everyone for the kind words of encouragement. Please allow me to introcduce myself which I should have done in the first place. My name is Krissy I live in Arizona, I have a nearly 3 year old son Brycen and our newest addition is , who is 3 months old and

has seemed to have a bit of a rough start. The place we were referred to was Hanger, after a couple days of thought I may have overreacted, I like any mommy does not want to hear that there is something wrong with their child, although this person didn't seem like the right choice for us so I'll call Cranial Technologies tomorrow for an appointment. Any suggestions on explaining all this to a 3 year old?> >> > Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son > in> > for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed my> > husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of > holding> > my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day. He > told> > my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old > and had> > we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is now> > considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the excercises > and> > changed his posistion when eating and

sleeping (it was suggested > that we> > have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor > little> > man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor > and his> > wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever > heard of> > them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw, > how do> > they interact with children?> >>

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Hi Kelle,

Welcome to the list. What test did you do to ascertain your levels? Do you two

have ANY mercury amalgam dental fillings? They have to be removed by a

mercury-free dentist using proper protocol before you can safely chelate. Have

you identified and reduced/removed sources of exposure?

www.danasview.net/metals has a comoprehensive list of sources of exposure. IMO

there are no acceptable levels of arsenic, cadmium or mercury.

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I am looking into chelation methods for myself and my partner. He is<br>

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mildly toxic: with Aluminium, Lead and silver being my main ones,<br>

Arsenic, Cadmium, Mercury, Platinum and Tin all being just below the<br>

'acceptable level'.<br>

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I am thinking about Zeolite<br>

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Hi AZ people -

I am in Tempe!

Mom to Olive 7 1/2 months plagio & tort Doc Band for 2 weeks

Cyndi

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>From: " bkbsfournier " <bkbsfournier@...>

>Reply-Plagiocephaly

>Plagiocephaly

>Subject: Re: New

>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:02:56 -0000

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>I'm actually in Coolidge, AZ but I work in Awathukee (I can NEVER spell

>that right!). I made s appointment for CT on Friday, the were

>SUPER nice on the phone and helped calm me down from our experience on

>Friday. That's a wonderful way to explain it to an older sibling!!

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> > > >

> > > > Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son

> >

> > > in

> > > > for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed

> > my

> > > > husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of

> > > holding

> > > > my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day.

> > He

> > > told

> > > > my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old

> > > and had

> > > > we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is

> > now

> > > > considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the

> > excercises

> > > and

> > > > changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested

> > > that we

> > > > have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor

> > > little

> > > > man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor

> > > and his

> > > > wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever

> > > heard of

> > > > them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw,

> > > how do

> > > > they interact with children?

> > > >

> > >

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im in ahwatukee but moving to laveen really really soon =)

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Hi AZ people -I am in Tempe!Mom to Olive 7 1/2 months plagio & tort Doc Band for 2 weeksCyndi

http://www.laboratory5.com/>From: " bkbsfournier " <bkbsfournier@...>

>Reply-Plagiocephaly >

Plagiocephaly >Subject: Re: New>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:02:56 -0000 >>>I'm actually in Coolidge, AZ but I work in Awathukee (I can NEVER spell>that right!). I made s appointment for CT on Friday, the were

>SUPER nice on the phone and helped calm me down from our experience on>Friday. That's a wonderful way to explain it to an older sibling!!>>>

> > > >> > > > Upon referral from our peditrician my husband took our son> > > > > in> > > > for an evaluation on Friday. The man we were referred to showed

> > my> > > > husband these nearly barbaric excercises to do, which consist of> > > holding> > > > my son's head down for one minute at a time 10-12 times a day.> > He

> > > told> > > > my husband we should have caught this when my son was a week old> > > and had> > > > we done that we wouldn't have the problem we do now, is

> > now> > > > considered an extreme case at 3 months old. We did the> > excercises> > > and> > > > changed his posistion when eating and sleeping (it was suggested

> > > that we> > > > have him sleep on his tummy, but we opted for his side) my poor> > > little> > > > man screamed and hollered all day long. We spoke to our Pastor

> > > and his> > > > wife and they recomended Crainal Technologies. Has anyone ever> > > heard of> > > > them, do they have a better bedside manner than the man we saw,

> > > how do> > > > they interact with children?> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------

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> Hi folks,

>

> I am looking into chelation methods for myself and my partner. He is

> very poisoned with mercury, lead and silver in articular and I am only

> mildly toxic: with Aluminium, Lead and silver being my main ones,

> Arsenic, Cadmium, Mercury, Platinum and Tin all being just below the

> 'acceptable level'.

>

> I am thinking about Zeolite

> http://my.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

> and Metal-X http://www.herbalremedies.com/metal-x.html

>

The above products are not true chelators, are not expected to remove

metals from the human body, and have not been researched enough to

know what they will do in the body. There are very few reports of

their use in chelation group archives.

> Has anyone any observations to share in the difference/ effectivity of

> these in comparison to DMSA/Lipoic Acid?

>

DMSA/ALA are true chelators, do remove metals from the human body and

there are lots of reports in chelation group archives of recovery

using these chelators.

J

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Welcome to the list. Comments interspersed.<br> S S<br><br><br> <br><br> <p>Hi all,

I joined up a few days ago, along with a few other groups so I

can't<br><br>remember if I introduced myself yet, but I'm here reading with

interest and<br><br>having my last three amalgams out this Friday. My problem's

more with<br><br>Aluminium, Silver, Lead, Cadmium, Arsenic, Tin then Mercury, in

that order,<br><br>*Based upon what? Did you do a hair test? Did you apply

counting rules? REad about them in the FAQs of this list.<br><br><br><br>so I'm

still tossing up between rounds of DMSA/EDTA/DMPS with ALA or zeolite<br><br>as

far as chelation goes.<br><br>*DMSA chelates mercury from the body and lead.

ALA chelates mercury from the body and brain and chelates arsenic. After

amalgam removal or other new exposure you should wait about 3 months before

beginning chelation with ALA. Have you identified and

reduced/removed sources of exposure to the other toxic metals you mentioned?

www.danasview.net/metals has a comprehensive list of sources of exposure.

<br><br> I control mood and behavioural symptoms by

a<br><br>salicylate/amine/<wbr>additive/<wbr>GF/SG/mostly starch and Casein free

diet with as<br><br>many fermented foods and probiotics (missing the two largest

groups of gut<br><br>flora) as I can handle and high dose

vitamins/minerals/<wbr>antioxidants per<br><br>Pfeiffer protocol for

'overmethylators'<wbr>. <br><br><br><br>My partner's a pyroluric overmethylator

and very poisoned with Lead, Mercury<br><br>and Silver, according to a CDSA he

has no beneficial bacteria at all and is<br><br>also on a similar protocol,

waiting for his zinc levels to increase to a<br><br>stage where he can commence

chelation with DMSA.<br><br><br><br>Our interest in Autism is that we are trying

to sort these issues out before<br><br>having a child.<br><br><br><br>Anyone

with any information on

the genetic potential of this, please<br><br>comment, especially if there is

information regarding in-utero testing for<br><br>autism.<br><br><br>*There's a

book by Sam & Ziff entitled " Infertility and Birth Defects: Is Mercury

from Silver Dental Fillings an Unsuspected Cause " which might interest you.

Mercury passes the placenta and the blood-brain " barrier " . Difficulty in

detoxing toxic metals may run in families.

<br><br><br>Thanks<br><br><br><br>Kelle in Australia<br><br><br>

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Wow, Kelle, good job being proactive here.

I think the biggest concern is you passing on your toxic metal level to the baby

in utero. Also, mercury can damage genes and I'm sure that is as individual as

the person.

Yasko does have a genetic test that looks for mutations that might predispose

kids to having difficulty with mercury. It's about $750.

I've heard through the years that a mom should chelate herself and wait for six

months after testing " clean " before conceiving.

Of course, that's a best case scenario. You might also check out the program

that Dr. Cousins did for preparing new mothers.

Barb

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Hi all, I joined up a few days ago, along with a few other groups so I can't

remember if I introduced myself yet, but I'm here reading with interest and

having my last three amalgams out this Friday. My problem's more with

Aluminium, Silver, Lead, Cadmium, Arsenic, Tin then Mercury, in that order,

so I'm still tossing up between rounds of DMSA/EDTA/DMPS with ALA or zeolite

as far as chelation goes. I control mood and behavioural symptoms by a

salicylate/amine/additive/GF/SG/mostly starch and Casein free diet with as

many fermented foods and probiotics (missing the two largest groups of gut

flora) as I can handle and high dose vitamins/minerals/antioxidants per

Pfeiffer protocol for 'overmethylators'.

My partner's a pyroluric overmethylator and very poisoned with Lead, Mercury

and Silver, according to a CDSA he has no beneficial bacteria at all and is

also on a similar protocol, waiting for his zinc levels to increase to a

stage where he can commence chelation with DMSA.

Our interest in Autism is that we are trying to sort these issues out before

having a child.

Anyone with any information on the genetic potential of this, please

comment, especially if there is information regarding in-utero testing for

autism.

Thanks

Kelle in Australia

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Hi my name is Alisha. I am new to this too. My son is 10 and was recently

rediagnosed from ADHD to Asperger's. I also did research on it because someone

told me about it and as I did I thought this is my boy. We got him diagnosed and

are working on his new IEP. I have 2 other kids and am starting to wonder if

maybe I should have them tested too. I don't know how much help I can be. But

sometimes just talking to someone who can relate to you helps.

skye333@... wrote: Hi, I am new, my daughter who is 11 was

diagnosed today with Aspergers and I

had already learned about it from a TV show, actually Dr. Phil and Im so glad

I saw it, once I saw it, I realized that is what my daughter had and I took

her to be checked and we went through a lot of testing and that is what she

has. I broke down crying, I just want to be the best parent I can be to her,

thus I joined this group to find support and ideas and just learn. My name is

, I have 2 other children and my daughter with Aspergers is .

thanks

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