scheduled an explantation date!

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone!!

Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

implants making people sick!!

Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

recovery!!

Thanks,

Charlene

[Guest guest]

How ironic, that was the day I had mine out one year ago, on December

7th, hang on it is a long journey back but well worth it, I am

million times better, you are a smart girl....keep in touch with us

and stick around oK!

In @y..., criviezzi@h... wrote:

> Hello Everyone!!

>

> Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

>

> Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility

of

> implants making people sick!!

>

> Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> recovery!!

>

> Thanks,

> Charlene

[Guest guest]

Has anyone ever had any experience with effexor...Good or bad?

Thanks Debbie>>>>>>>>>>

criviezzi@... wrote: Hello Everyone!!Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th. Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of implants making people sick!! Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to recovery!!Thanks,Charlene

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I have taken Effexor for 7 yrs now. I went on it for

major depression, and after trying every other

antidepressant, Effexor was the last one I tried, and

turns out it's the only one that works for me.

It is in a class of antidepressants called SNRI

(selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). This

means that it works more on norepinephrine than

serotonin. It still does have some activity on

serotonin, though.

Many people have a hard time with Effexor. The majority

of the complaints I hear are that it makes them

very " jittery " and unable to sleep. It does have

activating properties, can cause insomnia, and can cause

headaches. In addition, it can cause increased heart

rate and blood pressure. Most docs will (and should)

start you off at 37.5mg, and gradually increase the dose

until you have the desired affect. I have been on doses

as low as 37.5mg and as high as 350mg.

It is a drug that you cannot just stop. You MUST slowly

taper the dosage over a period of 2-4 wks. It can cause

withdrawal symptoms such as dizziness, headache, nausea

and vomiting, vertigo, sweating, and tingling. I have

gone off it several times just to see if I would be able

to function w/o out--i.e., to see if my depression was

stable enough to not need to take it. I think in the 7

yrs I've been on it, I've stopped it about 5-6 times

(but always needed to go back on it). Actually, I have

stopped it again. I took my last dose last Thurs. I

did a fairly rapid taper this time, so now I am dealing

with vertigo. It should be abating some time soon.

All said, Effexor is an excellent drug. It is also the

only antidepressant FDA approved to treat GAD

(generalized anxiety disorder). Research has also found

that SNRI's are proving to be more effective in treating

depression than SSRI's. There are 2 forms of Effexor

available. There is the the original Effexor, available

in 25mg, 37.5mg, 75mg, and 150mg, and then there is

Effexor XR, or the extended release, which keeps more of

a constant level of venlafaxine (generic name)in your

body. It is available in the same strenghts except

25mg.

Please let me know if you need any more info or have any

more questions. I have done lots of psych nursing and

subscribe to several psychiatric medical journals.

e

>

> Has anyone ever had any experience with effexor...Good or bad?

> Thanks Debbie>>>>>>>>>>

> criviezzi@... wrote: Hello Everyone!!

>

> Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

>

> Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> implants making people sick!!

>

> Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> recovery!!

>

> Thanks,

> Charlene

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

e,

Thanks for the reply...trying to decide if I want to go on this drug to help with minor dep. I am sensitive to meds and do not like taking them. I have psvt so I am a little worried that it may trigger tachyacardia. Thanks again

Debbie

eRene@... wrote: Debbie,I have taken Effexor for 7 yrs now. I went on it for major depression, and after trying every other antidepressant, Effexor was the last one I tried, and turns out it's the only one that works for me.It is in a class of antidepressants called SNRI (selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). This means that it works more on norepinephrine than serotonin. It still does have some activity on serotonin, though. Many people have a hard time with Effexor. The majority of the complaints I hear are that it makes them very "jittery" and unable to sleep. It does have activating properties, can cause insomnia, and can cause headaches. In addition, it can cause increased heart rate and blood pressure. Most docs will (and should) start you off at 37.5mg, and gradually increase the dose until you have the desired affect. I have been on doses as low as 37.5mg and as high as 350mg. It is a drug that you cannot just stop. You MUST slowly taper the dosage over a period of 2-4 wks. It can cause withdrawal symptoms such as dizziness, headache, nausea and vomiting, vertigo, sweating, and tingling. I have gone off it several times just to see if I would be able to function w/o out--i.e., to see if my depression was stable enough to not need to take it. I think in the 7 yrs I've been on it, I've stopped it about 5-6 times (but always needed to go back on it). Actually, I have stopped it again. I took my last dose last Thurs. I did a fairly rapid taper this time, so now I am dealing with vertigo. It should be abating some time soon.All said, Effexor is an excellent drug. It is also the only antidepressant FDA approved to treat GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). Research has also found that SNRI's are proving to be more effective in treating depression than SSRI's. There are 2 forms of Effexor available. There is the the original Effexor, available in 25mg, 37.5mg, 75mg, and 150mg, and then there is Effexor XR, or the extended release, which keeps more of a constant level of venlafaxine (generic name)in your body. It is available in the same strenghts except 25mg. Please let me know if you need any more info or have any more questions. I have done lots of psych nursing and subscribe to several psychiatric medical journals.e> > Has anyone ever had any experience with effexor...Good or bad?> Thanks Debbie>>>>>>>>>>> criviezzi@... wrote: Hello Everyone!!> > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th. > > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of > implants making people sick!! > > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to > recovery!!> > Thanks,> Charlene> > >

[Guest guest]

Great news, Charlene! Glad to hear the ball is rolling!

How do you feel about your surgeon? Totally comfortable? You must have run

into quite a few comments regarding the implants and disease idea--how does

this one feel about it?

Make sure you show him some of our articles if there is the need.

Love,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: <criviezzi@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:00 PM

Subject: scheduled an explantation date!

> Hello Everyone!!

>

> Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

>

> Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> implants making people sick!!

>

> Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> recovery!!

>

> Thanks,

> Charlene

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Where should I start?

How about " implants don't make woman sick. " " You won't be happy if you take

them out. " " 99.9% of woman who take them out don't feel any better. "

Maybe you should exercise!!

That's about a few of the comments! I'm telling you if some concerned woman

went in there thinking that she was getting sick from her implants he would

have convinced her of the exact opposite. However, he did say that it was

my choice and if I did want them out it was not a problem. He gave me three

options:

1. extract the saline out of the implant and leave the implant in (ha!)

2. extract the implant

3. extract the implant with a capsulectomy (he really wasn't crazy about

this idea)

I told him that I know that up until the implants I had absolutely no health

problems and since then I have been in and out of doctors. I told him I

wanted it all out implant and capusle and as soon as possible!!

I am confident in his surgical technique because my results from implants

were great especially since I had very difficult breasts to work with. They

were tubular breasts. So, he had to reshape them, lift them, and implant

them. Also, I spoke to numerous people who assured me he is an excellent

surgeon!

Anyhow, I'm glad to have these things out in 6 weeks but I have to admit I'm

a little bit concerned about what my breasts will look like. He did tell me

that because he did reshape them, they would look different than previously

(better) but they would be flat. Actually, I'm really not too concerned

because what I'm most concerned about is my health.

I will be visiting Dr. Kolb soon so that she can set me up on a detox

program.

Your friend,

Charlene

----- Original Message -----

From: " Patty " <fdp@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: scheduled an explantation date!

> Great news, Charlene! Glad to hear the ball is rolling!

>

> How do you feel about your surgeon? Totally comfortable? You must have

run

> into quite a few comments regarding the implants and disease idea--how

does

> this one feel about it?

>

> Make sure you show him some of our articles if there is the need.

> Love,

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <criviezzi@...>

> < >

> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:00 PM

> Subject: scheduled an explantation date!

>

>

> > Hello Everyone!!

> >

> > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

> >

> > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> > implants making people sick!!

> >

> > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> > recovery!!

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Charlene,

I cannot believe that this doctor even offered the first option you

listed!!! Oh my God! What person in their right mind would leave a lump of

deflated silicone rubber in their breasts, for God's sake!!!!

That is so scary, it boggles my mind. I am not at all surprised by the

other comments. Really, sometimes I wonder what kind of perverted medicine

these doctors think they are practicing.

I know you are looking forward to the explant--I well remember my own

impatience at being able to remove the cursed things from my chest, but at

the same time it is scary. I am sure you are going to look fine. You sound

like you trust this man enough to be at peace and content with his skill as

a surgeon, and that is important. Just get it in writing that he will do a

complete capsulectomy...if you ask for it in writing, he will know you are

dead serious about it. I've personally known a woman who was promised a

total capsulectomy but didn't get one, and only found out about it 6 months

after her surgery when she examined her post operative report. I guess the

doctors figure we are too dumb to know the difference if they don't do it,

so that is why you don't let them get off the hook that easy. Let him know

you know what you are talking about, and you expect him to perform the

surgery that you are requesting.

geez, drain the saline and leave the implant in...what insanity.

Love,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: " Charlene Pannarale " <criviezzi@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:38 AM

Subject: Re: scheduled an explantation date!

> Patty,

>

> Where should I start?

> How about " implants don't make woman sick. " " You won't be happy if you

take

> them out. " " 99.9% of woman who take them out don't feel any better. "

> Maybe you should exercise!!

>

> That's about a few of the comments! I'm telling you if some concerned

woman

> went in there thinking that she was getting sick from her implants he

would

> have convinced her of the exact opposite. However, he did say that it was

> my choice and if I did want them out it was not a problem. He gave me

three

> options:

> 1. extract the saline out of the implant and leave the implant in (ha!)

> 2. extract the implant

> 3. extract the implant with a capsulectomy (he really wasn't crazy about

> this idea)

>

> I told him that I know that up until the implants I had absolutely no

health

> problems and since then I have been in and out of doctors. I told him I

> wanted it all out implant and capusle and as soon as possible!!

>

> I am confident in his surgical technique because my results from implants

> were great especially since I had very difficult breasts to work with.

They

> were tubular breasts. So, he had to reshape them, lift them, and implant

> them. Also, I spoke to numerous people who assured me he is an excellent

> surgeon!

>

> Anyhow, I'm glad to have these things out in 6 weeks but I have to admit

I'm

> a little bit concerned about what my breasts will look like. He did tell

me

> that because he did reshape them, they would look different than

previously

> (better) but they would be flat. Actually, I'm really not too concerned

> because what I'm most concerned about is my health.

>

> I will be visiting Dr. Kolb soon so that she can set me up on a detox

> program.

>

> Your friend,

> Charlene

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Patty " <fdp@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:12 AM

> Subject: Re: scheduled an explantation date!

>

>

> > Great news, Charlene! Glad to hear the ball is rolling!

> >

> > How do you feel about your surgeon? Totally comfortable? You must have

> run

> > into quite a few comments regarding the implants and disease idea--how

> does

> > this one feel about it?

> >

> > Make sure you show him some of our articles if there is the need.

> > Love,

> > Patty

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: <criviezzi@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:00 PM

> > Subject: scheduled an explantation date!

> >

> >

> > > Hello Everyone!!

> > >

> > > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> > > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> > > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

> > >

> > > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> > > implants making people sick!!

> > >

> > > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> > > recovery!!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Charlene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Charlene,

Request in writing that this ps remove your implants

using the en bloc technique. And make sure you get it

in writing!! Any doc who suggest removing the saline

only scares me!! But if you trust him, that is what is

impt!

e

> Patty,

>

> Where should I start?

> How about " implants don't make woman sick. " " You won't be happy if you take

> them out. " " 99.9% of woman who take them out don't feel any better. "

> Maybe you should exercise!!

>

> That's about a few of the comments! I'm telling you if some concerned woman

> went in there thinking that she was getting sick from her implants he would

> have convinced her of the exact opposite. However, he did say that it was

> my choice and if I did want them out it was not a problem. He gave me three

> options:

> 1. extract the saline out of the implant and leave the implant in (ha!)

> 2. extract the implant

> 3. extract the implant with a capsulectomy (he really wasn't crazy about

> this idea)

>

> I told him that I know that up until the implants I had absolutely no health

> problems and since then I have been in and out of doctors. I told him I

> wanted it all out implant and capusle and as soon as possible!!

>

> I am confident in his surgical technique because my results from implants

> were great especially since I had very difficult breasts to work with. They

> were tubular breasts. So, he had to reshape them, lift them, and implant

> them. Also, I spoke to numerous people who assured me he is an excellent

> surgeon!

>

> Anyhow, I'm glad to have these things out in 6 weeks but I have to admit I'm

> a little bit concerned about what my breasts will look like. He did tell me

> that because he did reshape them, they would look different than previously

> (better) but they would be flat. Actually, I'm really not too concerned

> because what I'm most concerned about is my health.

>

> I will be visiting Dr. Kolb soon so that she can set me up on a detox

> program.

>

> Your friend,

> Charlene

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Patty " <fdp@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:12 AM

> Subject: Re: scheduled an explantation date!

>

>

> > Great news, Charlene! Glad to hear the ball is rolling!

> >

> > How do you feel about your surgeon? Totally comfortable? You must have

> run

> > into quite a few comments regarding the implants and disease idea--how

> does

> > this one feel about it?

> >

> > Make sure you show him some of our articles if there is the need.

> > Love,

> > Patty

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: <criviezzi@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:00 PM

> > Subject: scheduled an explantation date!

> >

> >

> > > Hello Everyone!!

> > >

> > > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> > > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> > > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

> > >

> > > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> > > implants making people sick!!

> > >

> > > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> > > recovery!!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Charlene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I really think that Effexor is a superior drug to the

others out there. If you are considering taking it for

mild depression, you probably won't need a large dose,

and therefore may not have the potential side effects.

When I first started taking it, I was a

little " activated, " but it didn't last long, and my body

adjusted to it fairly quickly. I have a history of

PVC's, bigeminy, and trigeminy, and the Effexor didn't

make it worse or even aggravate it. I also have a

history of bradycardia and a junctional rhythm, and

again, it wasn't exacerbated by the Effexor.

However, since you have SVT, I would be sure to discuss

it w/ your doc. Just out of curiosity, have you tried

any of the SSRI's, such as prozac, zoloft, paxil,

celexa? Or have you tried wellbutrin or serzone?

e

>

> e,

> Thanks for the reply...trying to decide if I want to go on this drug to help

> with minor dep. I am sensitive to meds and do not like taking them. I have

psvt

> so I am a little worried that it may trigger tachyacardia. Thanks again

> Debbie

> eRene@... wrote: Debbie,

>

> I have taken Effexor for 7 yrs now. I went on it for

> major depression, and after trying every other

> antidepressant, Effexor was the last one I tried, and

> turns out it's the only one that works for me.

>

> It is in a class of antidepressants called SNRI

> (selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). This

> means that it works more on norepinephrine than

> serotonin. It still does have some activity on

> serotonin, though.

>

> Many people have a hard time with Effexor. The majority

> of the complaints I hear are that it makes them

> very " jittery " and unable to sleep. It does have

> activating properties, can cause insomnia, and can cause

> headaches. In addition, it can cause increased heart

> rate and blood pressure. Most docs will (and should)

> start you off at 37.5mg, and gradually increase the dose

> until you have the desired affect. I have been on doses

> as low as 37.5mg and as high as 350mg.

>

> It is a drug that you cannot just stop. You MUST slowly

> taper the dosage over a period of 2-4 wks. It can cause

> withdrawal symptoms such as dizziness, headache, nausea

> and vomiting, vertigo, sweating, and tingling. I have

> gone off it several times just to see if I would be able

> to function w/o out--i.e., to see if my depression was

> stable enough to not need to take it. I think in the 7

> yrs I've been on it, I've stopped it about 5-6 times

> (but always needed to go back on it). Actually, I have

> stopped it again. I took my last dose last Thurs. I

> did a fairly rapid taper this time, so now I am dealing

> with vertigo. It should be abating some time soon.

>

> All said, Effexor is an excellent drug. It is also the

> only antidepressant FDA approved to treat GAD

> (generalized anxiety disorder). Research has also found

> that SNRI's are proving to be more effective in treating

> depression than SSRI's. There are 2 forms of Effexor

> available. There is the the original Effexor, available

> in 25mg, 37.5mg, 75mg, and 150mg, and then there is

> Effexor XR, or the extended release, which keeps more of

> a constant level of venlafaxine (generic name)in your

> body. It is available in the same strenghts except

> 25mg.

>

> Please let me know if you need any more info or have any

> more questions. I have done lots of psych nursing and

> subscribe to several psychiatric medical journals.

>

> e

> >

> > Has anyone ever had any experience with effexor...Good or bad?

> > Thanks Debbie>>>>>>>>>>

> > criviezzi@... wrote: Hello Everyone!!

> >

> > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other

> > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an

> > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th.

> >

> > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of

> > implants making people sick!!

> >

> > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to

> > recovery!!

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

e,

I tried zoloft before I had my implants out..this is when many thought all of my symptons were in my head. I had only seen a doctor for my psvt and having my children. I needed the zoloft, because I was depressed over feeling sick and tired of people thinking I was nuts...sooooo frustrating. The many people that didn't believe me felt pretty bad when I had the implants out and the cultures came back positive for staph. Bad feelings for the people that thought my sickness was mental...THEY MADE ME EMOTIONALLY DEPRESSED! Anyway, getting back to the point; I am not sure if I had any side effects or if my symptons were from my infected implants. I only took the drug for 5 weeks and decided to stop it. Klonapin helped a great deal with the anxiety...I took it for 3 months until I got implants out. All anxiety went away! My doc thinks this drug would be a good one for me. Zoloft did make me soooooooooooooooooo hungry all of the time...that is one side effect that I forgot about. It was aweful to be hungry 24 hrs a day. I am not at all over weight but if I would have continued on that one I would be a cow by now.

Debbie

Hope you are feeling better!

eRene@... wrote: Debbie,I really think that Effexor is a superior drug to the others out there. If you are considering taking it for mild depression, you probably won't need a large dose, and therefore may not have the potential side effects. When I first started taking it, I was a little "activated," but it didn't last long, and my body adjusted to it fairly quickly. I have a history of PVC's, bigeminy, and trigeminy, and the Effexor didn't make it worse or even aggravate it. I also have a history of bradycardia and a junctional rhythm, and again, it wasn't exacerbated by the Effexor.However, since you have SVT, I would be sure to discuss it w/ your doc. Just out of curiosity, have you tried any of the SSRI's, such as prozac, zoloft, paxil, celexa? Or have you tried wellbutrin or serzone?e> > e,> Thanks for the reply...trying to decide if I want to go on this drug to help > with minor dep. I am sensitive to meds and do not like taking them. I have psvt > so I am a little worried that it may trigger tachyacardia. Thanks again> Debbie> eRene@... wrote: Debbie,> > I have taken Effexor for 7 yrs now. I went on it for > major depression, and after trying every other > antidepressant, Effexor was the last one I tried, and > turns out it's the only one that works for me.> > It is in a class of antidepressants called SNRI > (selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). This > means that it works more on norepinephrine than > serotonin. It still does have some activity on > serotonin, though. > > Many people have a hard time with Effexor. The majority > of the complaints I hear are that it makes them > very "jittery" and unable to sleep. It does have > activating properties, can cause insomnia, and can cause > headaches. In addition, it can cause increased heart > rate and blood pressure. Most docs will (and should) > start you off at 37.5mg, and gradually increase the dose > until you have the desired affect. I have been on doses > as low as 37.5mg and as high as 350mg. > > It is a drug that you cannot just stop. You MUST slowly > taper the dosage over a period of 2-4 wks. It can cause > withdrawal symptoms such as dizziness, headache, nausea > and vomiting, vertigo, sweating, and tingling. I have > gone off it several times just to see if I would be able > to function w/o out--i.e., to see if my depression was > stable enough to not need to take it. I think in the 7 > yrs I've been on it, I've stopped it about 5-6 times > (but always needed to go back on it). Actually, I have > stopped it again. I took my last dose last Thurs. I > did a fairly rapid taper this time, so now I am dealing > with vertigo. It should be abating some time soon.> > All said, Effexor is an excellent drug. It is also the > only antidepressant FDA approved to treat GAD > (generalized anxiety disorder). Research has also found > that SNRI's are proving to be more effective in treating > depression than SSRI's. There are 2 forms of Effexor > available. There is the the original Effexor, available > in 25mg, 37.5mg, 75mg, and 150mg, and then there is > Effexor XR, or the extended release, which keeps more of > a constant level of venlafaxine (generic name)in your > body. It is available in the same strenghts except > 25mg. > > Please let me know if you need any more info or have any > more questions. I have done lots of psych nursing and > subscribe to several psychiatric medical journals.> > e> > > > Has anyone ever had any experience with effexor...Good or bad?> > Thanks Debbie>>>>>>>>>>> > criviezzi@... wrote: Hello Everyone!!> > > > Thanks to all the support and advice I received here and in other > > places, I meet with my plastic surgeon and I scheduled an > > explantation with a capsulectomy on December 7th. > > > > Boy aren't those plastic surgeons negative towards the possibility of > > implants making people sick!! > > > > Anyway, I hope that this step brings me closer to the road to > > recovery!!> > > > Thanks,> > Charlene> > > > > >