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Daisy: IDEA calls for a Least Restrictive Environment for all kids. Not

Restrictive. But I think I know what you are saying...a " safer environment "

perhaps?

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>I am a new member and would like some feedback from parents in

> reference to feelings about mainstreaming and separate settings. I

> teach a cross categorical kindergarten and often feel like some

> students need a more restrictive environment than mine but don't get

> parent support. I want the very best for each child but get the

> feeling many parents would rather receive instruction in the mainstream

> or the cc class even though it may not be appropriate.

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Hi Ali ~ Welcome to the group. My son Dylan who is 11 with DS & Autism. Dylan

plays on a special needs baseball and soccer team, as well as participating in

Special Olympics track. He also loves to swim.

Becky

afahmisalama wrote:

Hi i am new to the group , my name is ali & i am living in cairo-egypt

i have son 5 year old with autism . i want to know how sport can help

him , he just started to learn swiming & he is vrey happy

ali

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Ali,

I have taught gymnastics for the past many years and I have had classes with

many kids with disabilities. The kids with DS have such flexible ability that

it is a great sport for them. (you do need to make sure that their neck has

been okay by a doctor for atlanto axial instability). I work the kids

out....jumping jacks, sit ups, pushups, deep lunges, etc. then they also get to

run, jump, climb, and swing on all the equipment. They love it.

I think many sports are wonderful for our kids (as well as typical kids) as long

as the activity is fun and they like it.

Holly

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Hi i am new to the group , my name is ali & i am living in cairo-egypt

i have son 5 year old with autism . i want to know how sport can help

him , he just started to learn swiming & he is vrey happy

ali

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> Hey, just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to

> get us...

>>

>> I realize not all of us have primates for pets, but how many

>> people do you reckon sleep with their dog or cat in the bed

How about T. gonii from cats.. Schizophrenia, psychosis, etc..

Jim

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The man's a friggin' idiot!

Subject: (unknown)To: "ACHAMP" <achamp >, "Environment of Harm" <EOHarm >, "autism politics" <autism-politics >Cc: " Rally" <DCAutismRally >Received: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:57 AM

Prepare to be angered!

What Really Causes Autism? Thousands of Parents Still Blame Vaccineshttp://www.truthdig .com/report/ item/20090722_ what_really_ causes_autism_ thousands_ of_parents_ blame_vaccines/

Lin Wessels

Sam's MAMA

(Mom on A Mission for Autism)

"It was once said that the moral test of Government is how that Government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " Hubert H. Humphrey

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I disagree with the comments, however, on confusing the labeling. If someone knows autism, like we do or hopefully a good doctor, you would not confuse an autistic child from a mentally disabled one.

M

To: ACHAMP <achamp >; autism politics <autism-politics >Cc: Environment of Harm <EOHarm >; Rally <DCAutismRally >; Autism Awareness <autism-awareness-action >; autism asperger <autism-aspergersegroups>Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 10:14:38 AMSubject: (unknown)

I sent this one on to all on my legislative contacts and local legislators.

The Rising Autism Rates May Turn the Disorder into a National Disaster

By Ellie Velinska

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=5096

Just when we were trying to get used to the autism rates of 1 in 100 kids, the American Academy of Pediatrics found that the parent-reported autism rate in US is one in every 91 children, including one in 58 boys.

Autism rates are rising faster than the water levels after global warming. Only five years ago 1 in 10 000 kids were diagnosed with autism. And (as in the case of global warming) scientists are bickering over the issue: do we have real rise in autism or the cases of this spectrum disorder were always somewhere out there and we just now decided to recognize it.

Before you jump at me – I am not trying to undermine autism. I take it very seriously. The cases in the severe part of the autism spectrum are real tragedies and even the mild cases take a great tall on the family emotionally and financially. So let’s talk about it.

Officially, according to Centers for Disease Control , 1 in 150 eight-year-olds in the US had an autism. All children in the studies were eight-years- old because previous research has shown that most children with an autism have been identified by this age by some type of evaluation.

Encouraging study came up yesterday. It shows that certain types of behavioral therapy focused on social interaction and communication may have very positive effect in the mild cases of Autism when caught at early age. Such treatments though are expensive and can cost up to $50,000 a year.

The states are already overwhelmed by the cost of screenings, special education, transportation and therapy costs related to Autism Spectrum Disorders. Harvard School of Public Health study shows that caring for all people with autism over their lifetimes costs an estimated $35 billion societal cost per year. The number most likely underestimates the true costs because it does not include alternative therapies and family out-of-pocket expenses that are difficult to measure. To compare: societal cost for anxiety is estimated at around $47 billion.

There are many controversies surrounding the causes and the diagnosis of autism. A slightly geeky kid and a mentally disabled kid can both be diagnosed as autistic. The disorder has so many different faces it is hard to understand why they all go under a same label.

Early diagnostic is encouraged, but there is a very thin line between a boy in his “terrible two†and a boy with a mild autism. A regular kid can be labeled unnecessary for life and an autistic kid may not get attention he or she needs, because the symptoms at early age are easy to confuse with regular behaviors typical for toddlers.

The cost of autism is rising. More and more families each year have to deal with a loved one diagnosed with autism. And as the science gives us mostly confusion on the issue, the rising Autism rates may turn the disorder into a national disaster.

Lin Wessels

Sam's MAMA

(Mom on A Mission for Autism)

"It was once said that the moral test of Government is how that Government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " Hubert H. Humphrey

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I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AMSubject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A ChanceAs parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>"God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..."

My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?

To: EOHarm From: maurine_meleck@...Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty>To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AMSubject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A ChanceAs parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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And

why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could handle it?

I hate that saying – it makes me cringe every time.

From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of debra smith

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

To: eoharm

Subject: RE: (unknown)

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this

term>>>

" God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does

it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

To: EOHarm

From: maurine_meleck@...

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

From: HaroldL Doherty

To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

Subject: (unknown)

Autism

Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how

to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do

the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare

the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for

services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism

disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not

respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism

disorder as a blessing.... ...

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Boy do I ever agree. My book title is, " All I can Handle. I'm No Mother . "

God didn't give me my kids to make ME a better person. I bristle at that

assumption. Who the hell wants to be a " better person " on the backs of their

children? Not I.

Kim

>

> And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could

> handle it? I hate that saying - it makes me cringe every time.

>

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

> debra smith

> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

> To: eoharm

> Subject: RE: (unknown)

>

>

>

>

>

> What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

> " God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

>

>

> My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

> does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> To: EOHarm

> From: maurine_meleck@...

> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

>

>

> I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

>

>

>

> the poops on walls,

>

> the principal's calls,

>

> the right arm bites,

>

> the sleepless nights,

>

> the money spent

>

> and where it went,

>

> the nights at home,

>

> the big, fat loan,

>

> enormous stress,

>

> I must be blessed,

>

> and oh my gosh,

>

> thank you Josh.

>

>

>

> Maurine Meleck

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

>

>

> Autism

> <http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/12/autism-is-blessing-give-thanks-that-

> my.html> Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A

> Chance

>

>

>

> As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

> how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.

> Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability

> to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

> advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

> others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

> approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

> look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

>

>

>

> _____

>

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You know…it’s not a new concept, from the beginning

of time, scripture has been twisted, warped and taken out of context and perpetuated

as something it was never spoken to mean. No exception here! God

did not cause my son’s autism, (I know what caused it…many, many…

MANY mercury-laden vaccines; including 2 Rhogam vaccines while inutero-1 at

11.5 weeks gestation, and the 2nd at 28 weeks gestation, coupled

with the many Thimerosal preserved vaccines given while, at the same time, taking

unnecessary antibiotics due to his siblings STREP etc…) God does know my

limitations, therefore that’s why he so graciously gives me the grace,

strength and ability to wake up and face a new day with the realities of my

life, and what I have to face each day. I too do not

appreciate when someone ‘flippantly’ states, “God never gives

us more than we can handle!”. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING

ME!!! He didn’t ‘give’ me a son with autism, he BLESSED

me with a perfectly healthy, neurotypical, milestone reaching little boy, who

was by my “SHEEPITIY” stolen from me! Not over night mind you

as some have experienced, but slowly and progressively piece, by uniquely

created piece TAKEN…STOLEN from our family. Yes, I do love my son,

I want the best for him, therefore, without God’s grace that he gives me

daily…I will NEVER lose sight of getting my son back to what is a ‘recovered’

place for him! Never! It’s not about what I can handle…I

cannot handle any of it, it’s only through God handling it through me that

I make it to my pillow at night! I am just amazed at what my precious innocent

boy has and DOES handle daily! God’s grace being daily demonstrated

in front of my eyes! That’s the miracle in all of it!

T.

www.asdcenters.com

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Madeline

Montgomery

Sent: 12/02/2009 11:26 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: RE: (unknown)

And why would God punish a child with autism because

the parents could handle it? I hate that saying – it makes me

cringe every time.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of debra

smith

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

To: eoharm

Subject: RE: (unknown)

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this

term>>>

" God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does

it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

To:

EOHarm

From: maurine_meleck@...

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm

Thankful for the Broken Door

the

poops on walls,

the

principal's calls,

the

right arm bites,

the

sleepless nights,

the

money spent

and

where it went,

the

nights at home,

the

big, fat loan,

enormous

stress,

I

must be blessed,

and

oh my gosh,

thank

you Josh.

Maurine

Meleck

From:

HaroldL Doherty

To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

Subject: (unknown)

Autism

Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how

to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do

the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare

the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for

services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism

disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not

respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism

disorder as a blessing.... ...

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As a fellow christian, that was amazing!!!! God was getting a bad rap he did not deserve.

My son Autism like symptoms were not given by God,it was greed and arrogansy and ignorance. Domestic Terrorism by the FDA CDC and AAP and our U.S. trusted elected Representatives They all have our children's Blood on their hands.

And God will judge them for their lies and deceit, and poisoning little baby's

Subject: RE: (unknown)To: EOHarm Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:58 AM

You know…it’s not a new concept, from the beginning of time, scripture has been twisted, warped and taken out of context and perpetuated as something it was never spoken to mean. No exception here! God did not cause my son’s autism, (I know what caused it…many, many… MANY mercury-laden vaccines; including 2 Rhogam vaccines while inutero-1 at 11.5 weeks gestation, and the 2nd at 28 weeks gestation, coupled with the many Thimerosal preserved vaccines given while, at the same time, taking unnecessary antibiotics due to his siblings STREP etc…) God does know my limitations, therefore that’s why he so graciously gives me the grace, strength and ability to wake up and face a new day with the realities of my life, and what I have to face each day. I too do not appreciate when someone ‘flippantly’ states, “God never gives us more

than we can handle!â€. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! He didn’t ‘give’ me a son with autism, he BLESSED me with a perfectly healthy, neurotypical, milestone reaching little boy, who was by my “SHEEPITIY†stolen from me! Not over night mind you as some have experienced, but slowly and progressively piece, by uniquely created piece TAKEN…STOLEN from our family. Yes, I do love my son, I want the best for him, therefore, without God’s grace that he gives me daily…I will NEVER lose sight of getting my son back to what is a ‘recovered’ place for him! Never! It’s not about what I can handle…I cannot handle any of it, it’s only through God handling it through me that I make it to my pillow at night! I am just amazed at what my precious innocent boy has and DOES handle daily! God’s grace being daily demonstrated in front of my eyes! That’s the miracle in all of

it!

T.

www.asdcenters. com

From: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Madeline MontgomerySent: 12/02/2009 11:26 AMTo: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: RE: (unknown)

And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could handle it? I hate that saying – it makes me cringe every time.

From: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of debra smithSent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AMTo: eoharmyahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: RE: (unknown)

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>"God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..." My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?

To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.comDate: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AMSubject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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And I don't blame God for my son's autism, I blame money and man's love for it.

God gave me a healthy child, and the healthcare industry destroyed him.

Chrissy

>

> And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could

> handle it? I hate that saying - it makes me cringe every time.

>

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

> debra smith

> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

> To: eoharm

> Subject: RE: (unknown)

>

>

>

>

>

> What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

> " God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

>

>

> My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

> does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> To: EOHarm

> From: maurine_meleck@...

> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

>

>

> I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

>

>

>

> the poops on walls,

>

> the principal's calls,

>

> the right arm bites,

>

> the sleepless nights,

>

> the money spent

>

> and where it went,

>

> the nights at home,

>

> the big, fat loan,

>

> enormous stress,

>

> I must be blessed,

>

> and oh my gosh,

>

> thank you Josh.

>

>

>

> Maurine Meleck

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

>

>

> Autism

> <http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/12/autism-is-blessing-give-thanks-that-

> my.html> Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A

> Chance

>

>

>

> As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

> how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.

> Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability

> to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

> advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

> others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

> approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

> look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

>

>

>

> _____

>

> The new Internet ExplorerR 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo!

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>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

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> download.

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Yes Joe, He is very candid about that in His word regarding what

will happen if any would cause a ‘little one’ to fall!  I can only pray that “theyâ€,

as you perfectly stated them to be, the Domestic Terrorists we have in the FDA,

CDC and the AAP, and the US elected Representatives of ‘WE the People’… be

penitent for this uninterrupted DECIET that they have allowed and financially

fostered to continue!  It seems we might be known as the second empire to fall

due to our own GREEDY and insatiable desires!

Generations of children’s blood are on ALL of their hands!

T.

www.asdcenters.com

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Joe

Sent: 12/02/2009 2:04 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: RE: (unknown)

As a fellow christian, that was amazing!!!! God was

getting a bad rap he did not deserve.

My son Autism like symptoms were not given by God,it was

greed and arrogansy and ignorance. Domestic Terrorism by the FDA CDC

and AAP and our U.S. trusted elected Representatives They all have

our children's Blood on their hands.

And God will judge them for their lies and deceit, and

poisoning little baby's

Subject: RE: (unknown)

To: EOHarm

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:58 AM

You know…it’s not a new concept, from

the beginning of time, scripture has been twisted, warped and taken out of

context and perpetuated as something it was never spoken to mean. No

exception here! God did not cause my son’s autism, (I know what caused

it…many, many… MANY mercury-laden vaccines; including 2 Rhogam vaccines while

inutero-1 at 11.5 weeks gestation, and the 2nd at 28 weeks

gestation, coupled with the many Thimerosal preserved vaccines given while,

at the same time, taking unnecessary antibiotics due to his siblings STREP

etc…) God does know my limitations, therefore that’s why he so graciously

gives me the grace, strength and ability to wake up and face a new day with

the realities of my life, and what I have to face each day. I too do

not appreciate when someone ‘flippantly’ states, “God never gives

us more than we can handle!â€. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING

ME!!! He didn’t ‘give’ me a son with autism, he BLESSED me with a

perfectly healthy, neurotypical, milestone reaching little boy, who was by my

“SHEEPITIY†stolen from me! Not over night mind you as some have

experienced, but slowly and progressively piece, by uniquely created piece

TAKEN…STOLEN from our family. Yes, I do love my son, I want the best

for him, therefore, without God’s grace that he gives me daily…I will NEVER

lose sight of getting my son back to what is a ‘recovered’ place for him!

Never! It’s not about what I can handle…I cannot handle any

of it, it’s only through God handling it through me that I make it to my

pillow at night! I am just amazed at what my precious innocent boy has

and DOES handle daily! God’s grace being daily demonstrated in front of

my eyes! That’s the miracle in all of it!

T.

www.asdcenters. com

From:

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Montgomery

Sent: 12/02/2009 11:26 AM

To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: (unknown)

And why would God punish a child with autism because

the parents could handle it? I hate that saying – it makes me cringe

every time.

From:

EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of debra

smith

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

To: eoharmyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: (unknown)

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses

this term>>>

" God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

To:

EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com

From: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.com

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm

Thankful for the Broken Door

the

poops on walls,

the

principal's calls,

the

right arm bites,

the

sleepless nights,

the

money spent

and

where it went,

the

nights at home,

the

big, fat loan,

enormous

stress,

I

must be blessed,

and

oh my gosh,

thank

you Josh.

Maurine

Meleck

From:

HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>

To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

Subject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder?

Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.

Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability

to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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Chrissy, I agree! If it werent for god they would have died from thier vaccine

reactions.

> >

> > And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could

> > handle it? I hate that saying - it makes me cringe every time.

> >

> >

> >

> > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

> > debra smith

> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

> > To: eoharm

> > Subject: RE: (unknown)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

> > " God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

> >

> >

> > My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

> > does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > To: EOHarm

> > From: maurine_meleck@

> > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

> > Subject: Re: (unknown)

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

> >

> >

> >

> > the poops on walls,

> >

> > the principal's calls,

> >

> > the right arm bites,

> >

> > the sleepless nights,

> >

> > the money spent

> >

> > and where it went,

> >

> > the nights at home,

> >

> > the big, fat loan,

> >

> > enormous stress,

> >

> > I must be blessed,

> >

> > and oh my gosh,

> >

> > thank you Josh.

> >

> >

> >

> > Maurine Meleck

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@>

> > To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

> > Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

> > Subject: (unknown)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Autism

> > <http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/12/autism-is-blessing-give-thanks-that-

> > my.html> Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A

> > Chance

> >

> >

> >

> > As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

> > how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.

> > Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability

> > to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

> > advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

> > others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

> > approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

> > look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

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> >

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I didn't mean to come over blaming god. But I tend to get sassy to those who says those things to me. Yes I do get bitter sometimes. Over countless jobs lost because I had to leave work early because of calls from school principles and teachers, doctors appointments or calls from home because he got to out of control. Employers don't give a damn....

Yes I am bitter, but sorry if it sound like I was blaming god. I agree I blame greed for money which leds to power. For greed is a curse placed on my child and others who suffered at those responsible. Not only it has effected my son and others, but it has effected me and countless other parents and families as a whole. My child is Gods blessings, the curse was from greed

To: EOHarm From: sammysouthie@...Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:40:31 +0000Subject: Re: (unknown)

Chrissy, I agree! If it werent for god they would have died from thier vaccine reactions.> >> > And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could> > handle it? I hate that saying - it makes me cringe every time.> > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of> > debra smith> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM> > To: eoharm > > Subject: RE: (unknown)> > > > > > > > > > > > What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>> > "God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..."> > > > > > My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why> > does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > To: EOHarm > > From: maurine_meleck@> > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800> > Subject: Re: (unknown)> > > > > > > > I'm Thankful for the Broken Door> > > > > > > > the poops on walls,> > > > the principal's calls,> > > > the right arm bites,> > > > the sleepless nights,> > > > the money spent> > > > and where it went,> > > > the nights at home,> > > > the big, fat loan,> > > > enormous stress,> > > > I must be blessed,> > > > and oh my gosh,> > > > thank you Josh.> > > > > > > > Maurine Meleck> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@>> > To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >> > Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM> > Subject: (unknown)> > > > > > > > > > Autism> > <http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/12/autism-is-blessing-give-thanks-that-> > my.html> Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A> > Chance> > > > > > > > As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn> > how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.> > Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability> > to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce> > advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and> > others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One> > approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to> > look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The new Internet ExplorerR 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo!> > <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> Get it Now for Free! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to> > download.> > <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?o> > cid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009>> >>

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you state "domestic terrorists" US elected Representatives of ‘WE the People’

Can you explain what you mean about WE The People!

Do you understand that your christianity also constitutes a domestic terrorists group according to the government? Please explian about We The People!

To: EOHarm Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:41:36 PMSubject: RE: (unknown)

Yes Joe, He is very candid about that in His word regarding what will happen if any would cause a ‘little one’ to fall! I can only pray that “theyâ€, as you perfectly stated them to be, the Domestic Terrorists we have in the FDA, CDC and the AAP, and the US elected Representatives of ‘WE the People’… be penitent for this uninterrupted DECIET that they have allowed and financially fostered to continue! It seems we might be known as the second empire to fall due to our own GREEDY and insatiable desires!

Generations of children’s blood are on ALL of their hands!

T.

www.asdcenters.com

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: 12/02/2009 2:04 PMTo: EOHarm Subject: RE: (unknown)

As a fellow christian, that was amazing!!!! God was getting a bad rap he did not deserve.

My son Autism like symptoms were not given by God,it was greed and arrogansy and ignorance. Domestic Terrorism by the FDA CDC and AAP and our U.S. trusted elected Representatives They all have our children's Blood on their hands.

And God will judge them for their lies and deceit, and poisoning little baby's

Subject: RE: (unknown)To: EOHarm Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:58 AM

You know…it’s not a new concept, from the beginning of time, scripture has been twisted, warped and taken out of context and perpetuated as something it was never spoken to mean. No exception here! God did not cause my son’s autism, (I know what caused it…many, many… MANY mercury-laden vaccines; including 2 Rhogam vaccines while inutero-1 at 11.5 weeks gestation, and the 2nd at 28 weeks gestation, coupled with the many Thimerosal preserved vaccines given while, at the same time, taking unnecessary antibiotics due to his siblings STREP etc…) God does know my limitations, therefore that’s why he so graciously gives me the grace, strength and ability to wake up and face a new day with the realities of my life, and what I have to face each day. I too do not appreciate when someone ‘flippantly’ states, “God never gives us more

than we can handle!â€. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! He didn’t ‘give’ me a son with autism, he BLESSED me with a perfectly healthy, neurotypical, milestone reaching little boy, who was by my “SHEEPITIY†stolen from me! Not over night mind you as some have experienced, but slowly and progressively piece, by uniquely created piece TAKEN…STOLEN from our family. Yes, I do love my son, I want the best for him, therefore, without God’s grace that he gives me daily…I will NEVER lose sight of getting my son back to what is a ‘recovered’ place for him! Never! It’s not about what I can handle…I cannot handle any of it, it’s only through God handling it through me that I make it to my pillow at night! I am just amazed at what my precious innocent boy has and DOES handle daily! God’s grace being daily demonstrated in front of my eyes! That’s the miracle in all of

it!

T.

www.asdcenters. com

From: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Madeline MontgomerySent: 12/02/2009 11:26 AMTo: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: RE: (unknown)

And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could handle it? I hate that saying – it makes me cringe every time.

From: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of debra smithSent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AMTo: eoharmyahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: RE: (unknown)

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>"God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..." My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?

To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.comDate: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AMSubject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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Sure, no problem… (please note…EMPHASIS ADDED)

“We the People of the

United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure

domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general

Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do

ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

       

                                                                Article.

I.

        Section. 1.  All legislative Powers herein granted shall

be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate

and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.  The House

of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by

the People of the several States, and the Electors in

each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most

numerous Branch of the State Legislature…..

Therefore, the

Constitution stating “We the People of the United States,†is exactly what I am

referring to.  We elected these scoundrels, and they are in essences ALLOWING

this travesty to continue.

Also, my and your religious

beliefs are  protected under the United States Constitution as well. 

                                                        

“Amendment I*

Congress shall make no

law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise

thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of

the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress

of grievances.

*The first ten Amendments

(Bill of Rights) were ratified effective December 15, 1791.â€

HTH’s.

R. Troutman BS,

R.T. ®(CT)(ARRT)

Unit Director

Genetic Consultants of Indiana-ASD Centers, LLC

9595 Whitley Dr.,

Suite 205

Indianapolis, IN 46240

FAX:

melissatroutman@...

Website: www.asdcenters.com

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of tammie

k

Sent: 12/03/2009 12:35 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: (unknown)

you state

" domestic terrorists " US elected

Representatives of ‘WE the People’

Can you explain what you mean about WE The People!

Do you understand that your christianity also constitutes

a domestic terrorists group according to the government? Please explian about

We The People!

To: EOHarm

Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:41:36 PM

Subject: RE: (unknown)

Yes Joe, He is very candid about that in

His word regarding what will happen if any would cause a ‘little one’ to fall!

I can only pray that “theyâ€, as you perfectly stated them to be, the

Domestic Terrorists we have in the FDA, CDC and the AAP, and the US elected

Representatives of ‘WE the People’… be penitent for this uninterrupted DECIET

that they have allowed and financially fostered to continue! It seems we

might be known as the second empire to fall due to our own GREEDY and

insatiable desires!

Generations of children’s blood are on ALL

of their hands!

T.

www.asdcenters.com

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Joe

Sent: 12/02/2009 2:04 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: RE: (unknown)

As

a fellow christian, that was amazing!!!! God was getting a bad rap he did not

deserve.

My

son Autism like symptoms were not given by God,it was greed and arrogansy and

ignorance. Domestic Terrorism by the FDA CDC and AAP and our U.S.

trusted elected Representatives They all have our children's Blood on

their hands.

And

God will judge them for their lies and deceit, and poisoning little baby's

Subject: RE: (unknown)

To: EOHarm

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:58 AM

You know…it’s not a new concept, from

the beginning of time, scripture has been twisted, warped and taken out of

context and perpetuated as something it was never spoken to mean. No

exception here! God did not cause my son’s autism, (I know what caused

it…many, many… MANY mercury-laden vaccines; including 2 Rhogam vaccines while

inutero-1 at 11.5 weeks gestation, and the 2nd at 28 weeks

gestation, coupled with the many Thimerosal preserved vaccines given while,

at the same time, taking unnecessary antibiotics due to his siblings STREP

etc…) God does know my limitations, therefore that’s why he so graciously

gives me the grace, strength and ability to wake up and face a new day with

the realities of my life, and what I have to face each day. I too do

not appreciate when someone ‘flippantly’ states, “God never gives

us more than we can handle!â€. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING

ME!!! He didn’t ‘give’ me a son with autism, he BLESSED me with a

perfectly healthy, neurotypical, milestone reaching little boy, who was by my

“SHEEPITIY†stolen from me! Not over night mind you as some have

experienced, but slowly and progressively piece, by uniquely created piece

TAKEN…STOLEN from our family. Yes, I do love my son, I want the best

for him, therefore, without God’s grace that he gives me daily…I will NEVER

lose sight of getting my son back to what is a ‘recovered’ place for him!

Never! It’s not about what I can handle…I cannot handle any

of it, it’s only through God handling it through me that I make it to my

pillow at night! I am just amazed at what my precious innocent boy has

and DOES handle daily! God’s grace being daily demonstrated in front of

my eyes! That’s the miracle in all of it!

T.

www.asdcenters. com

From:

EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Madeline

Montgomery

Sent: 12/02/2009 11:26 AM

To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: (unknown)

And why would God punish a child with autism because

the parents could handle it? I hate that saying – it makes me cringe

every time.

From:

EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:EOHarm@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of debra

smith

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

To: eoharmyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: (unknown)

What

really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

" God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

To:

EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com

From: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.com

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm

Thankful for the Broken Door

the

poops on walls,

the

principal's calls,

the

right arm bites,

the

sleepless nights,

the

money spent

and

where it went,

the

nights at home,

the

big, fat loan,

enormous

stress,

I

must be blessed,

and

oh my gosh,

thank

you Josh.

Maurine

Meleck

From:

HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>

To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

Subject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder?

Not A Chance

As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders.

Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability

to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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I hate that particular verse as well and the many people that think it is helpful. That verse has nothing to do with the physical and emotional pain that people go through with autism.....it was meant to minister to those in temporary discomfort.

At our church we love to use the verse ICor. 12:22...."On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable." Our children are indispensable!!!!!

Subject: RE: (unknown)To: eoharm Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:28 AM

What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>"God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..." My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?

To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.comDate: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800Subject: Re: (unknown)

I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

the poops on walls,

the principal's calls,

the right arm bites,

the sleepless nights,

the money spent

and where it went,

the nights at home,

the big, fat loan,

enormous stress,

I must be blessed,

and oh my gosh,

thank you Josh.

Maurine Meleck

From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AMSubject: (unknown)

Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A ChanceAs parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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I'm in agreement w/ and Joe on this one...God did NOT make my son sick

with autism..he didn't give my other son Asthma, or my other son some attention

problems...God does NOT cause sickness....BUT He can take ANY situation the

devil has put on us (or by his influences as a result of man's greed and sin)

and turn it around for His glory and for our good!

When my son is recovered, his life will be a testimony to other parents in my

community who have all but given up on their kids and think there is no hope.

Hopefully there will be other children like him as well, who will stir up these

parents to DO something to help their kids and QUIT listening to all the

" doctors' who say " there's nothing you can do " .

29:11

" For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and

not for calamity to give you a future and a hope "

God always had plans for my son's welfare, and plans to give him a future and

plans to give him hope...MAN took that away in the form of a flu shot given

while pregnant, a mercury amalgam while pregnant and labor stopping drugs while

pregnant..and then if that wasn't enough...the mercury laden vaccinations and

numerous rounds of antibiotics which destroyed his gut flora.

My anger makes me productive.... " Be angry BUT sin not "

My anger drives me forward to help my son have that " future and a hope " .

My anger makes me have a strong desire to help others in my community so that

not one more child has to suffer this insanity, and not one more family has to

endure this hell.

1:5 (from the message Bible)

" Before I shaped you in the womb, I knew all about you. Before you saw the light

of day, I had holy plans for you: A prophet to the nations--that's what I had in

mind for you. "

God knows my son, knows what he is supposed to be like, has a destiny for him to

fulfill, and one day soon, he'll become that and be returned to the way God

intended for him to be.

Lori

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> Subject: RE: (unknown)

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> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:28 AM

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> What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

> " God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

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> My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does

it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

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> To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com

> From: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.com

> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

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> I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

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> the poops on walls,

> the principal's calls,

> the right arm bites,

> the sleepless nights,

> the money spent

> and where it went,

> the nights at home,

> the big, fat loan,

> enormous stress,

> I must be blessed,

> and oh my gosh,

> thank you Josh.

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> Maurine Meleck

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> From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>

> To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com>

> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

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> Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance

> As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how

to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism disorders. Some do

the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare

the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for

services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism

disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not

respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism

disorder as a blessing.... ...

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No need to be sorry. I understand the frustration. I too get bitter and have

lost MANY jobs over this. I still get poop thrown at me and I get so mad I can't

even watch TV with all the drug co commercials. I get mad at the TV. How

irrational is that?!? So don't be sorry, you have no reason to be. God bless you

and your family.

Chrissy

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> > > And why would God punish a child with autism because the parents could

> > > handle it? I hate that saying - it makes me cringe every time.

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> > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

> > > debra smith

> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:28 AM

> > > To: eoharm

> > > Subject: RE: (unknown)

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> > > What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>

> > > " God doesn't give us things we cannot handle... "

> > >

> > >

> > > My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why

> > > does it seems to be attached with a curse called " autism " ?

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > > _____

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> > > To: EOHarm

> > > From: maurine_meleck@

> > > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800

> > > Subject: Re: (unknown)

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> > > I'm Thankful for the Broken Door

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> > >

> > >

> > > the poops on walls,

> > >

> > > the principal's calls,

> > >

> > > the right arm bites,

> > >

> > > the sleepless nights,

> > >

> > > the money spent

> > >

> > > and where it went,

> > >

> > > the nights at home,

> > >

> > > the big, fat loan,

> > >

> > > enormous stress,

> > >

> > > I must be blessed,

> > >

> > > and oh my gosh,

> > >

> > > thank you Josh.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Maurine Meleck

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> > > _____

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> > > From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@>

> > > To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm >

> > > Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM

> > > Subject: (unknown)

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> > > Autism

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<http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/12/autism-is-blessing-give-thanks-that-

> > > my.html> Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A

> > > Chance

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> > > As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn

> > > how to come to grips with the realities of our children's autism

disorders.

> > > Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their

ability

> > > to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce

> > > advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and

> > > others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One

> > > approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to

> > > look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...

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Beautiful! To God be the GLORY!!!!! in Jesus name

Subject: Re: (unknown)To: EOHarm Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:44 AM

I'm in agreement w/ and Joe on this one...God did NOT make my son sick with autism..he didn't give my other son Asthma, or my other son some attention problems...God does NOT cause sickness.... BUT He can take ANY situation the devil has put on us (or by his influences as a result of man's greed and sin) and turn it around for His glory and for our good!When my son is recovered, his life will be a testimony to other parents in my community who have all but given up on their kids and think there is no hope. Hopefully there will be other children like him as well, who will stir up these parents to DO something to help their kids and QUIT listening to all the "doctors' who say "there's nothing you can do". 29:11"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope"God always had plans for my son's welfare, and plans to give him a future

and plans to give him hope...MAN took that away in the form of a flu shot given while pregnant, a mercury amalgam while pregnant and labor stopping drugs while pregnant..and then if that wasn't enough...the mercury laden vaccinations and numerous rounds of antibiotics which destroyed his gut flora. My anger makes me productive.. .."Be angry BUT sin not"My anger drives me forward to help my son have that "future and a hope".My anger makes me have a strong desire to help others in my community so that not one more child has to suffer this insanity, and not one more family has to endure this hell. 1:5 (from the message Bible)"Before I shaped you in the womb, I knew all about you. Before you saw the light of day, I had holy plans for you: A prophet to the nations--that' s what I had in mind for you."God knows my son, knows what he is supposed to be like, has a destiny for him to fulfill, and one day soon, he'll

become that and be returned to the way God intended for him to be.Lori> > > From: debra smith

<dksmith9024@ ...>> Subject: RE: (unknown)> To: eoharmyahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:28 AM> > > Â > > > > What really gets my panties in a wad is when someone uses this term>>>> "God doesn't give us things we cannot handle..."> Â > Â > My question is... whatever God gives us is a blessing aka a child, so why does it seems to be attached with a curse called "autism"?> Â > > Â > > > To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com> From: maurine_meleck@ yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:00:51 -0800> Subject: Re: (unknown)> > Â > > >

> > I'm Thankful for the Broken Door> Â > the poops on walls,> the principal's calls,> the right arm bites,> the sleepless nights,> the money spent> and where it went,> the nights at home,> the big, fat loan,> enormous stress,> I must be blessed,> and oh my gosh,> thank you Josh.> Â > Maurine Meleck> > > > > > From: HaroldL Doherty <haroldldoherty@ yahoo.com>> To: Evidence of Harm <EoHarm@yahoogroups . com>> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:00:57 AM> Subject: (unknown)> > Â > > > > > Autism Is A Blessing? Give Thanks That My Son Has A Disorder? Not A Chance> As parents of children with autism spectrum disorders we all have to learn how to come to grips with the realities of our

children's autism disorders. Some do the best they can to raise their child to the best of their ability to prepare the child to live the fullest life possible. Some become fierce advocates for services, treatments, research and cures for their child and others with autism disorders. I respect most parent's approaches. One approach that I do not respect, and have never pretended to respect, is to look at my son's autism disorder as a blessing.... ...> > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! > > > > > > > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download.>

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