RE: Ok, I need to talk..

March 30, 2006

We have had this problem for years!!! We use manipulaation, bribery,

PREMACK, and go when the wood trail, playground street is most likely to be

empty.

Elie will sit outside now. We put a parkbench in the front yard, made a

" magic path " with pebbles and put some plants around to make a semiprivate

area. He will sit out there watching the passersby for quite awhile. HE

prefers dusk. But he will not walk on the pebbles and when I put fragrant

plants out there, he moved them. Now in the spring I put a citronella on a

shepard's crook and some green things around the chair.

Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons.

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>Subject: Ok, I need to talk..

>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:52:46 -0500

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>Hi, everyone.. I just need an ear of 2-knowing you all are going through

>or have been through this stuff.

>

>Tori HATES being outdoors. We take her on the patio where she wants to

>go...we sit a few minutes, then she wants back into the house. We took her

>to the park this morning. She went on a tunnel slide once, walked over the

>bridge once, played with the mirror and then sat and wanted to come home.

>We took her out in front of the house this afternoon, took out her

>motorized car, her wagon, her big ball and all she wanted to do is sit and

>then go inside. It just kills me that she doesn't enjoy any of the typical

>kids' stuff. I know I should expect it...but each year it gets harder.

>Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to help her get over this??? I

>guess it is because she can't process so much open space...I just don't get

>it.

>

>Liz

>

March 31, 2006

In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:58:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

liz.desantis@... writes:

Tori HATES being outdoors. We take her on the patio where she wants to

go...we sit a few minutes, then she wants back into the house. We took her to

the park this morning. She went on a tunnel slide once, walked over the

bridge once, played with the mirror and then sat and wanted to come home. We

took her out in front of the house this afternoon, took out her motorized car,

her wagon, her big ball and all she wanted to do is sit and then go inside.

It just kills me that she doesn't enjoy any of the typical kids' stuff

Liz, I know you don't want to hear this, but we have the opposite problem,

and it's a nightmare. Maddie wants to be outside 24/7!!!!! It's one of

her obsessions......and once outside, it's not like she'll sit nicely on a

bench or our porch furniture....NO....she has to RUN RUN RUN....especially in

the

street (you know that contrast between asphalt and pavement is just SO

luring). ALL DAY LONG, sunshine, rain or snow, she is handing me my purse, my

coat, my keys, my walkman, her shoes, her coat, ANYTHING to get me to take her

outdoors. It's exhausting.

Funny, but since we have been potty training, she hasn't been as bad.....she

just doesn't have the time to bug us....LOL

Maddie's off today and it's beautiful here in Philly, so I think we'll ease

up a bit on the intensity of our training and go for a few walks. Everybody

needs a break!!!! Matter of fact, my 13 year old is going to DC on Sunday

to start her People to People Ambassador program on Monday.......Duff is

taking her. My SIL is bugging me to go with them, so we can catch up with our

son n, a sophomore at Catholic. We'd go out to dinner with him and

some of his friends, then stay at a hotel........Should I take her up on

it?!?!? She SAYS she'll do the potty training..........I miss my boy.

HUGS.....we ALL have stuff to deal with...whether it's the same or not!!!!

Donna

P.S. She's still sleeping....it's amazing how much she looks like an angel

while asleep...the most beautiful face!!!!

March 31, 2006

Hi Liz, I bet this will change, I remember did not like the

outside as much, hard to remember cause now he loves it! He doesnt

like the grass with bare feet but he likes his patio, with his porch

swing that he can swing himself w/his feet. Wonder if Tori would

like this? I know how you feel though cause we keep trying balls,

new toys, everything (my husband gets mad at me!) but it makes me

sad too that he just wants his jump roaps mostly! How about putting

Tori's bouncey thing out there? or would it rip up? and music? this

is what likes outside, or maybe she needs sunglasses? Another

thing we just got (I should send it to Tori cause isnt crazy

about it YET) is a blow up type punch bag, ya know the kind you put

water in the bottom before blowing up to make it bounce back.It does

have super man on it, I got it at Big Lots for 5 dollars. I thought

it would help with some of his " sensory seeking " needs!! Hey, put

her grass rug out side!!! Or a mini tramp since she is a jumper,

would that do it? just doing some brain storming with you Liz, take

care, Dawn (sounds like you already have some fun things out there!)

>

> Hi, everyone.. I just need an ear of 2-knowing you all are going

through or have been through this stuff.

>

> Tori HATES being outdoors. We take her on the patio where she

wants to go...we sit a few minutes, then she wants back into the

house. We took her to the park this morning. She went on a tunnel

slide once, walked over the bridge once, played with the mirror and

then sat and wanted to come home. We took her out in front of the

house this afternoon, took out her motorized car, her wagon, her big

ball and all she wanted to do is sit and then go inside. It just

kills me that she doesn't enjoy any of the typical kids' stuff. I

know I should expect it...but each year it gets harder. Does anyone

have any suggestions as to how to help her get over this??? I guess

it is because she can't process so much open space...I just don't

get it.

>

> Liz

>

March 31, 2006

Donna: I guess I should consider ourselves lucky that Tori won't run

off...because she hates being out. I just guess I still want her to be

" normal " . I remember be outside all the time with my oldest. Taking walks,

going to the park for hours, playing ball, etc.. =(

I would take your SIL up on her offer. We all need a break. My DH & I are

going to Las Vegas in July for ours!! It's been 8 years.

You are lucky she sleeps in a bit. Tori has me up between 6 & 6:30 every

day!

Liz

Re: Ok, I need to talk..

>

> In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:58:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> liz.desantis@... writes:

>

> Tori HATES being outdoors. We take her on the patio where she wants to

> go...we sit a few minutes, then she wants back into the house. We took

> her to

> the park this morning. She went on a tunnel slide once, walked over the

> bridge once, played with the mirror and then sat and wanted to come

> home. We

> took her out in front of the house this afternoon, took out her motorized

> car,

> her wagon, her big ball and all she wanted to do is sit and then go

> inside.

> It just kills me that she doesn't enjoy any of the typical kids' stuff

>

> Liz, I know you don't want to hear this, but we have the opposite problem,

> and it's a nightmare. Maddie wants to be outside 24/7!!!!! It's one

> of

> her obsessions......and once outside, it's not like she'll sit nicely on

> a

> bench or our porch furniture....NO....she has to RUN RUN

> RUN....especially in the

> street (you know that contrast between asphalt and pavement is just SO

> luring). ALL DAY LONG, sunshine, rain or snow, she is handing me my

> purse, my

> coat, my keys, my walkman, her shoes, her coat, ANYTHING to get me to

> take her

> outdoors. It's exhausting.

>

> Funny, but since we have been potty training, she hasn't been as

> bad.....she

> just doesn't have the time to bug us....LOL

> Maddie's off today and it's beautiful here in Philly, so I think we'll

> ease

> up a bit on the intensity of our training and go for a few walks.

> Everybody

> needs a break!!!! Matter of fact, my 13 year old is going to DC on

> Sunday

> to start her People to People Ambassador program on Monday.......Duff is

> taking her. My SIL is bugging me to go with them, so we can catch up

> with our

> son n, a sophomore at Catholic. We'd go out to dinner with him

> and

> some of his friends, then stay at a hotel........Should I take her up on

> it?!?!? She SAYS she'll do the potty training..........I miss my boy.

> HUGS.....we ALL have stuff to deal with...whether it's the same or

> not!!!!

> Donna

> P.S. She's still sleeping....it's amazing how much she looks like an

> angel

> while asleep...the most beautiful face!!!!

>

March 31, 2006

Gee Liz. Mic will not go outside in the winter if theres snow hes afraid of

it.He will play in it if I bring in a dish full in the house and he eats it like

a typical kid but to take him out no way.In the summer he loves it outside and

he goes down his slide and swings, for 2 years all he would do was go behind the

shed and stand in there with the plywood.I think school must have helped there

for him.Thats got to be hard on you and frustrating my neighbor is a normal 36

year old mother and I never see her outside she told me once she hates it.Me I

am outside in the sun as much as possible I cant understand her either. Laurie

March 31, 2006

One of Josiah's little buddies hated being outdoors too...when the weather was

warm. The teachers said he loved recess when the weather was cool, but if the

sun was out and it was warm, he'd just plop down on the playground and sit and

want to go back inside.

Could that be the issue with Tori as well? Josiah's friend had a mom who just

took him out in the early parts of the day or later in the cool of the evening.

He really enjoyed it then.

Sandy, mom to Josiah, (age 4, DS/ASD)

Potential knows no boundaries!

April 1, 2006

im unsure how to handle this, its always been theopposite for nathan it was al

lwe could do to keep him in the house and especially in the yard , nowadasy he

stays in the yard but goes outside all summer long, doesnt like the cold, lol, i

remrmber when he was litttle hubby was just about to buy one of those shock

collars for him but being that its inhumane ofcourse he didnt but omg it was

horrible for several years. shawna

Liz D wrote: Hi, everyone.. I just need an ear of

2-knowing you all are going through or have been through this stuff.

Tori HATES being outdoors. We take her on the patio where she wants to go...we

sit a few minutes, then she wants back into the house. We took her to the park

this morning. She went on a tunnel slide once, walked over the bridge once,

played with the mirror and then sat and wanted to come home. We took her out

in front of the house this afternoon, took out her motorized car, her wagon, her

big ball and all she wanted to do is sit and then go inside. It just kills me

that she doesn't enjoy any of the typical kids' stuff. I know I should expect

it...but each year it gets harder. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how

to help her get over this??? I guess it is because she can't process so much

open space...I just don't get it.

Liz

April 1, 2006

nathan loves the big patio type swing, sits on and even lays on sometimes for

hours. shawna

sara cohen wrote: We have had this problem for

years!!! We use manipulaation, bribery,