(OT) Dental question re white fillings and crowns

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I recently had some dental work done and had two amalgams replaced by "white" fillings. At this point, I am not sure whether they are resin or composite ( and am not even sure what the difference is between the two kinds, or if there is any,..all I know is that they do not contain mercury). Anyway, my dentist is trying to tell me that I need to get them and a tooth I had done last year crowned, for the white fillings to last longer. She also told my daughter that the white filling I asked her to put in as a filling in one of her teeth (rather than a mercury-containing amalgam) will likely eat away at the root of her tooth in about 10 years, and that she will likely need a root canal as a result. My dentist told me that endodontists are happy with "white fillings" because these are ensuring a steady supply of work of them. From what I have experienced

and read, root canals are a bit of nasty business on their own, with the possiblility of various types of infection (including anaerobic) being able to build up in the gums after the work has been done.

I don't trust my dentist much, but I keep going to her because she was a schoolmate of mine at one time and does accept postdated cheques (which comes in handy when we go to visit her with several kids in tow). She is OK for the minor stuff with the kids, but unfortunately she does keep plugging the virtues of amalgams. At my last visit, I tried to tell her about what our own Canadian researchers (Fritz Lorscheider and Vimy Murray) at the University of Calgary had found out about mercury vapor, but she told me that their study was done years ago and had been disproven. She is quick to poopoo the dangers of mercury, but had nothing to show me where any of this has been "disproved".

Anyway, she screwed me around once before, telling me that two of my sons were in need of braces for their tongue-thrust problems. Yes, their teeth were protruding a little, but the next year, when we returned for our visit, she told me their problems had abated on their own. That was AFTER I had already spent hours and money getting the preliminary work done for getting their braces made. Our insurance did not cover all of that.

My insurance will also not cover all of my crowns. I am throwing this question out to you before I decide what to do about my teeth. Basically, I am wondering about how long white fillings in molars (sorry, I don't know whether they are composite or resin/what the difference is) will or can last without being crowned. According to my dentist, I am already over the limit with the one year that one of the white fillings has been in my mouth without being crowned.

My white fillings seem to be doing fine, even though I still have a metallic taste in my mouth at times ( still have about 13 amalgams left, unfortunately). We have more pressing concerns, with my oldest son slated for laser treatment for severe acne scarring and his desire to take summer courses at university. I don't think my husband's or my insurance will pay for his treatments. I'd rather help pay for my son's treatment than fork out money for crowns for myself, if they are not all that urgent. This reminds me all too much of 's movie, "Sicko", where the poor fellow had to decide which finger he wanted to keep. Even when we have some modicum of "insurance", the decisions are not necessarily easy.

I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts about the longevity (and ins and outs) of white fillings.

Please email me directly, if this is outside of the interests of the group,

Aasa

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Aasa:

I do lots of research daily. Doctors who are doing miracles at reversing chronic illnesses say NO to metal in the mouth. Not only is mercury lethal, but metals also disrupt the electrical flow in the body when they are put in the mouth in fillings. So what if a white filling falls out. Just get it replaced. I got all my mercury replaced and have had no problems, other than more mercury contamination that happens when you drill them out. It has been somewhat over a year, closer to two. Also, one of my children had his replaced and no problems.

I have talked to lots of people about filling replacement, and they said that they have had to replace more mercury ones than white ones. Apparently the mercury ones break teeth. Crowns are not considered good ideas unless very special circumstances. I can't remember why, but I think it has something to do with them actually being toxic as well. Maybe it's because they contain lead and/or made in china with "junk" or something like that. Therefore white composites appeared to be the lesser of the evils when I did the research. From what you told me about your dentist, I would NEVER see her again. You can ask around for a better one. My dentist never suggested crowns ever, and he does not put in metals. Thus, realize that doctors and dentists vary greatly, in that they have their own beliefs and such.

As far as the mercury amalgams being shown to be safe, horse-pucky. Your dentist is WAAAAAY behind the times. The new word is that mercury amalgams now have warnings to not put in children, nor pregnant women, nor the elderly. You can google to learn about it. The news releases on this vary, but her is one example:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/

ly, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's inhumane to put mercury in anyone for any reason. But, for the love of money, people will do inhumane things.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

I recently had some dental work done and had two amalgams replaced by "white" fillings. At this point, I am not sure whether they are resin or composite ( and am not even sure what the difference is between the two kinds, or if there is any,..all I know is that they do not contain mercury). Anyway, my dentist is trying to tell me that I need to get them and a tooth I had done last year crowned, for the white fillings to last longer. She also told my daughter that the white filling I asked her to put in as a filling in one of her teeth (rather than a mercury-containing amalgam) will likely eat away at the root of her tooth in about 10 years, and that she will likely need a root canal as a result. My dentist told me that endodontists are happy with "white fillings" because these are ensuring a steady supply of work of them. From what I have experienced and read, root canals are a bit of nasty business on their own, with the possiblility of various typesof infection (including anaerobic) being able to build up in the gums after the work has been done.I don't trust my dentist much, but I keep going to her because she was a schoolmate of mine at one time and does accept postdated cheques (which comes in handy when we go to visit her with several kids in tow). She is OK for the minor stuff with the kids, but unfortunately she does keep plugging the virtues of amalgams. At my last visit, I tried to tell her about what our own Canadian researchers (Fritz Lorscheider and Vimy Murray) at the University of Calgary had found out about mercury vapor, but she told me that their study was done years ago and had been disproven. She is quick to poopoo the dangers of mercury, but had nothing to show me where any of this has been "disproved". Anyway, she screwed me around once before, telling me that two of my sons were in need of braces for their tongue-thrust problems. Yes, their teeth were protruding a little, but the next year, when we returned for our visit, she told me their problems had abated on their own. That was AFTER I had already spent hours and money getting the preliminary work done for getting their braces made. Our insurance did not cover all of that.My insurance will also not cover all of my crowns. I am throwing this question out to you before I decide what to do about my teeth. Basically, I am wondering about how long white fillings in molars (sorry, I don't know whether they are composite or resin/what the difference is) will or can last without being crowned. According to my dentist, I am already over the limit with the one year that one of the white fillings has been in my mouth without being crowned.My white fillings seem to be doing fine, even though I still have a metallic taste in my mouth at times ( still have about 13 amalgams left, unfortunately). We have more pressing concerns, with my oldest son slated for laser treatment for severe acne scarring and his desire to take summer courses at university. I don't think my husband's or my insurance will pay for his treatments. I'd rather help pay for my son's treatment than fork out money for crowns for myself, if they are not all that urgent. This reminds me all too much of 's movie, "Sicko", where the poor fellow had to decide which finger he wanted to keep. Even when we have some modicum of "insurance", the decisions are not necessarily easy.I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts about the longevity (and ins and outs) of white fillings.Please email me directly, if this is outside of the interests of the group, Aasapenas7arrogers A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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you could go to a dental school to reduce cost

and if it was me I would opt for gold work

more expensive but lasts longer and not hg or plastic

I understand that there are sealants now that are BPA free which is very good

new & thre is interest & products that are under the umbrella of probiotic to

reduce risk for caries (decay)

>

> I recently had some dental work done and had two amalgams replaced by " white "

fillings. At this point, I am not sure whether they are resin or composite ( and

am not even sure what the difference is between the two kinds, or if there is

any,..all I know is that they do not contain mercury). Anyway, my dentist is

trying to tell me that I need to get them and a tooth I had done last year

crowned, for the white fillings to last longer. She also told my daughter that

the white filling I asked her to put in as a filling in one of her teeth (rather

than a mercury-containing amalgam) will likely eat away at the root of her tooth

in about 10 years, and that she will likely need a root canal as a result. My

dentist told me that endodontists are happy with " white fillings " because these

are ensuring a steady supply of work of them. From what I have experienced and

read, root canals are a bit of nasty business on their own, with the

possiblility of various types

> of infection (including anaerobic) being able to build up in the gums after

the work has been done.

> I don't trust my dentist much, but I keep going to her because she was a

schoolmate of mine at one time and does accept postdated cheques (which comes in

handy when we go to visit her with several kids in tow). She is OK for the minor

stuff with the kids, but unfortunately she does keep plugging the virtues of

amalgams. At my last visit, I tried to tell her about what our own Canadian

researchers (Fritz Lorscheider and Vimy Murray) at the University of Calgary had

found out about mercury vapor, but she told me that their study was done years

ago and had been disproven. She is quick to poopoo the dangers of mercury, but

had nothing to show me where any of this has been " disproved " .

> Anyway, she screwed me around once before, telling me that two of my sons were

in need of braces for their tongue-thrust problems. Yes, their teeth were

protruding a little, but the next year, when we returned for our visit, she told

me their problems had abated on their own. That was AFTER I had already spent

hours and money getting the preliminary work done for getting their braces

made. Our insurance did not cover all of that.

> My insurance will also not cover all of my crowns. I am throwing this question

out to you before I decide what to do about my teeth. Basically, I am wondering

about how long white fillings in molars (sorry, I don't know whether they are

composite or resin/what the difference is) will or can last without being

crowned. According to my dentist, I am already over the limit with the one year

that one of the white fillings has been in my mouth without being crowned.

> My white fillings seem to be doing fine, even though I still have a metallic

taste in my mouth at times ( still have about 13 amalgams left, unfortunately).

We have more pressing concerns, with my oldest son slated for laser treatment

for severe acne scarring and his desire to take summer courses at university. I

don't think my husband's or my insurance will pay for his treatments. I'd rather

help pay for my son's treatment than fork out money for crowns for myself, if

they are not all that urgent. This reminds me all too much of 's

movie, " Sicko " , where the poor fellow had to decide which finger he wanted to

keep. Even when we have some modicum of " insurance " , the decisions are

not necessarily easy.

> I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts about the longevity (and ins and outs) of

white fillings.

> Please email me directly, if this is outside of the interests of the group,

>  

> Aasa

> penas7ar@...       

>

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Thank you for your reply, Heidi.

I had that happen a few times with older amalgam fillings,...they do expand over time and can break teeth. Guess I'll have to do more research before deciding what to do next.

Thanks again,

Aasa

Subject: Re:(OT) Dental question re white fillings and crownsTo: EOHarm Received: Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:58 PM

Aasa:

I do lots of research daily. Doctors who are doing miracles at reversing chronic illnesses say NO to metal in the mouth. Not only is mercury lethal, but metals also disrupt the electrical flow in the body when they are put in the mouth in fillings. So what if a white filling falls out. Just get it replaced. I got all my mercury replaced and have had no problems, other than more mercury contamination that happens when you drill them out. It has been somewhat over a year, closer to two. Also, one of my children had his replaced and no problems.

I have talked to lots of people about filling replacement, and they said that they have had to replace more mercury ones than white ones. Apparently the mercury ones break teeth. Crowns are not considered good ideas unless very special circumstances. I can't remember why, but I think it has something to do with them actually being toxic as well. Maybe it's because they contain lead and/or made in china with "junk" or something like that. Therefore white composites appeared to be the lesser of the evils when I did the research. From what you told me about your dentist, I would NEVER see her again. You can ask around for a better one. My dentist never suggested crowns ever, and he does not put in metals. Thus, realize that doctors and dentists vary greatly, in that they have their own beliefs and such.

As far as the mercury amalgams being shown to be safe, horse-pucky. Your dentist is WAAAAAY behind the times. The new word is that mercury amalgams now have warnings to not put in children, nor pregnant women, nor the elderly. You can google to learn about it. The news releases on this vary, but her is one example:

http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 25139198/

ly, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's inhumane to put mercury in anyone for any reason. But, for the love of money, people will do inhumane things.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

I recently had some dental work done and had two amalgams replaced by "white" fillings. At this point, I am not sure whether they are resin or composite ( and am not even sure what the difference is between the two kinds, or if there is any,..all I know is that they do not contain mercury). Anyway, my dentist is trying to tell me that I need to get them and a tooth I had done last year crowned, for the white fillings to last longer. She also told my daughter that the white filling I asked her to put in as a filling in one of her teeth (rather than a mercury-containing amalgam) will likely eat away at the root of her tooth in about 10 years, and that she will likely need a root canal as a result. My dentist told me that endodontists are happy with "white fillings" because these are ensuring a steady supply of work of them. From what I have experienced and read, root canals are a bit of nasty business on their own, with the possiblility

of various typesof infection (including anaerobic) being able to build up in the gums after the work has been done.I don't trust my dentist much, but I keep going to her because she was a schoolmate of mine at one time and does accept postdated cheques (which comes in handy when we go to visit her with several kids in tow). She is OK for the minor stuff with the kids, but unfortunately she does keep plugging the virtues of amalgams. At my last visit, I tried to tell her about what our own Canadian researchers (Fritz Lorscheider and Vimy Murray) at the University of Calgary had found out about mercury vapor, but she told me that their study was done years ago and had been disproven. She is quick to poopoo the dangers of mercury, but had nothing to show me where any of this has been "disproved". Anyway, she screwed me around once before, telling me that two of my sons were in need of braces for their tongue-thrust problems. Yes, their

teeth were protruding a little, but the next year, when we returned for our visit, she told me their problems had abated on their own. That was AFTER I had already spent hours and money getting the preliminary work done for getting their braces made. Our insurance did not cover all of that.My insurance will also not cover all of my crowns. I am throwing this question out to you before I decide what to do about my teeth. Basically, I am wondering about how long white fillings in molars (sorry, I don't know whether they are composite or resin/what the difference is) will or can last without being crowned. According to my dentist, I am already over the limit with the one year that one of the white fillings has been in my mouth without being crowned.My white fillings seem to be doing fine, even though I still have a metallic taste in my mouth at times ( still have about 13 amalgams left,

unfortunately) . We have more pressing concerns, with my oldest son slated for laser treatment for severe acne scarring and his desire to take summer courses at university. I don't think my husband's or my insurance will pay for his treatments. I'd rather help pay for my son's treatment than fork out money for crowns for myself, if they are not all that urgent. This reminds me all too much of 's movie, "Sicko", where the poor fellow had to decide which finger he wanted to keep. Even when we have some modicum of "insurance", the decisions are not necessarily easy.I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts about the longevity (and ins and outs) of white fillings.Please email me directly, if this is outside of the interests of the group, Aasapenas7arrogers (DOT) com

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