RE: Re: Seizure idea - CELLFOOD

January 8, 2009

http://luminahealth.com/products/cellfood/ingredients.htm

Promethium and technetium are both radioactive elements.

What is interesting is – that MONTHS ago, they responded to Brainchild

Nutritionals, who still sells this crap, saying it was an error on their part

to have these ingredients listed and it’s a common mistake since to list

these with the other elements, etc etc – and yet, they are still listed

in their ingredients list on their website. So, really, was it an error –

or are these elements truly ingredients in this product? You’d

think if it WAS a mistake, and they were aware of it because they responded,

their website would have been updated to reflect that. They have edited

their website since 8/29/2008, when I made a copy, to remove Lithium, but left

these two radioactive elements listed there. Now why would they do that

if they truly were not ingredients?

And this is only two ingredients which were questioned –

antimony is surely something I do not want my child knowingly consuming either.

They also removed this from their ingredient listing as

well: (Note

the absence of aluminum, cadmium, chlorine, lead, mercury, and radium)

Letter from Mark , CEO of Lumina Health:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/235068

I had written out a history for someone who asked me directly

what was going on with this whole debacle and have pasted it below for anyone

who is interested.

Andy Cutler brought it to everyone’s attention that

the ingredient list was questionable since it claimed to have 2 radioactive

elements, technecium and promethium.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/234266

Since Andy’s original post, there were multiple posts

and emails flying around on this group (Autism-mercury) and others regarding

this.

Lumina Health then issued a letter stating that they were

updating their ingredients list to include the correct ingredients and that the

ingredients in question were mistakenly listed as Cellfood ingredients for

years:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/235050

Additionally, Brainchild sent a sample in for testing and

then came back stating that the sample did not have any aluminum, arsenic,

cadmium, mercury and lead:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BrainChildDiscussion/message/2099

Good to know, but it didn’t exactly help us feel any

better about the ingredients that were being discussed.

When asked to see the testing results, Brainchild refused

due to a “confidentiality agreement” with the testing lab.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BrainChildDiscussion/message/2122

Bottom line here is – if Lumina Health or Brainchild

are not willing to share the independent lab results, then something is really

wrong here. If the company is not responsible enough with the ingredients

listed on their label, then they really can’t be trusted with the actual

contents inside that bottle. If Brainchild really did extensive research

on this product before adding it to their product line, then they would have

found Lumina Health’s mistake long before it was pointed out on a message

board on the internet.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of sammysouthie

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:44 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: Seizure idea

---arsenic I believe is one of them. I remember

going to the health

food store and getting the product handout and posting it on that

group because I couldnt quite remember what it was I saw that made me

return my purchase after I got it home and looked it over. Needless

to say I never gave my child this product. I dont think our children

need any additional toxins. In EOHarm ,

" "

wrote:

>

> Honestly, I don't trust Cell Food at all - we stopped giving it to

our son a

> while back.

>

> Long story on the Autism-mercury boards from a few months ago - but

the

> ingredients are questionable - until it was pointed out to them,

they had 2

> radioactive elements listed in the ingredients listing. Then they

feel it's

> fine to just remove them from the ingredients list and not provide

any

> testing showing those ingredients were truly never in the formula.

>

> From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ]

On

Behalf Of

> Chap'N'Alli

> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:28 PM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: RE: Re: Seizure idea

>

> Here's a link..

>

> http://www.luminahealth.com/research.htm

>

> I don't know, he really will never let anyone give him a blood

pressure test

> so he hasn't had one in a while. I'd be a little wary of just

feeding him

> hordes of salt. But I will make sure he is getting more

electrolytes. He

> was getting a 1/3 of one of those Emergen - c packs (which are

electrolyte

> replenishers) every day and still would occasionally have them, but

I wasn't

> tracking the two. Does barometric pressure effect electrolytes??

That's

> one of his triggers.

>

> Thanks,

>

> From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ]

On

Behalf Of

> s_degiusti

> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:08 PM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: Re: Seizure idea

>

> Sounds like your son really needs salt. I don't know enough about

> the cell food products.

>

> In EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%

40yahoogroups.com> , " Chap'N'Alli "

> <chapnalli@> wrote:

> >

> > LOL! Well I wouldn't have to add it to anything. My son LOVES

> salt and I

> > find him putting our " Real salt " on his hand and licking it

all

of

> the time.

> > I'm constantly changing where I put it. Somewhere I have cell

> food, haven't

> > used it in a while but would that help? -

> >

> > From: EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com> ]

On

> Behalf Of

> > blessingsx10@

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:28 PM

> > To: EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Seizure idea

> >

> > Okay another thought that has helped some kids. Sounds way out

> there. but

> > won't hurt.

> >

> > Salt -- give them Sea Salt, not your standard table salt!! Sea

> Salt

> > unbleached

> >

> > is preferred.

> >

> > Some kids have more seizures when sodium levels drop.

> > Some of these kids, Electrolytes are out of balance I think with

> meds and

> > all.

> >

> > It may take a while to get the sodium levels normalized so you

may

> not know

> > how its working.

> >

> > I wonder if you could make a solution of 1 tsp of Sea Salt per 8

oz

> glass of

> > water.

> >

> > You could even add at little amount to their yogurt, drinks they

> drink (

> > not juice's -) add it to some veggies, as a way to get it in them

> faster.

> > Just be sure to offer plenty of water to hydrate them so their

> cells take it

> > in well.

> >

> > If nothing else try Pedalyte, or Gatorade, as they are a

electrolyte

> > solution.

> >

> > ( I have seen this work before in some kids with seizures and it

> won't hurt

> > them

> >

> > so its something simple you can try out and see if your child's

> behavior

> > also

> >

> > improves.)

> >

> > _____

> >

> > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

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January 8, 2009

Thank you. I actually had good results with it for myself when

I experienced several episodes of reflux. But I hadn't seen any of this

information so thanks.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:26 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: RE: Re: Seizure idea - CELLFOOD

http://luminahealth.com/products/cellfood/ingredients.htm

Promethium and technetium are both

radioactive elements. What is interesting is – that MONTHS ago, they

responded to Brainchild Nutritionals, who still sells this crap, saying it was

an error on their part to have these ingredients listed and it’s a common

mistake since to list these with the other elements, etc etc – and yet, they

are still listed in their ingredients list on their website. So, really,

was it an error – or are these elements truly ingredients in this

product? You’d think if it WAS a mistake, and they were aware of it

because they responded, their website would have been updated to reflect

that. They have edited their website since 8/29/2008, when I made a copy,

to remove Lithium, but left these two radioactive elements listed there.

Now why would they do that if they truly were not ingredients?

And this is only two ingredients which

were questioned – antimony is surely something I do not want my child knowingly

consuming either.

They also removed this from their

ingredient listing as well: (Note

the absence of aluminum, cadmium, chlorine, lead, mercury, and radium)

Letter from Mark , CEO of Lumina

Health:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/235068

I had written out a history for someone

who asked me directly what was going on with this whole debacle and have pasted

it below for anyone who is interested.

Andy

Cutler brought it to everyone’s attention that the ingredient list was

questionable since it claimed to have 2 radioactive elements, technecium and

promethium.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/234266

Since

Andy’s original post, there were multiple posts and emails flying around on

this group (Autism-mercury) and others regarding this.

Lumina

Health then issued a letter stating that they were updating their ingredients

list to include the correct ingredients and that the ingredients in question

were mistakenly listed as Cellfood ingredients for years:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/235050

Additionally,

Brainchild sent a sample in for testing and then came back stating that the

sample did not have any aluminum, arsenic, cadmium, mercury and lead:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BrainChildDiscussion/message/2099

Good

to know, but it didn’t exactly help us feel any better about the ingredients

that were being discussed.

When

asked to see the testing results, Brainchild refused due to a “confidentiality

agreement” with the testing lab.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BrainChildDiscussion/message/2122

Bottom

line here is – if Lumina Health or Brainchild are not willing to share the

independent lab results, then something is really wrong here. If the

company is not responsible enough with the ingredients listed on their label,

then they really can’t be trusted with the actual contents inside that

bottle. If Brainchild really did extensive research on this product

before adding it to their product line, then they would have found Lumina

Health’s mistake long before it was pointed out on a message board on the

internet.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of sammysouthie

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:44 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: Seizure idea

---arsenic I believe is one of them. I remember going to the health

food store and getting the product handout and posting it on that

group because I couldnt quite remember what it was I saw that made me

return my purchase after I got it home and looked it over. Needless

to say I never gave my child this product. I dont think our children

need any additional toxins. In EOHarm ,

" "

wrote:

>

> Honestly, I don't trust Cell Food at all - we stopped giving it to

our son a

> while back.

>

> Long story on the Autism-mercury boards from a few months ago - but

the

> ingredients are questionable - until it was pointed out to them,

they had 2

> radioactive elements listed in the ingredients listing. Then they

feel it's

> fine to just remove them from the ingredients list and not provide

any

> testing showing those ingredients were truly never in the formula.

>

> From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ]

On

Behalf Of

> Chap'N'Alli

> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:28 PM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: RE: Re: Seizure idea

>

> Here's a link..

>

> http://www.luminahealth.com/research.htm

>

> I don't know, he really will never let anyone give him a blood

pressure test

> so he hasn't had one in a while. I'd be a little wary of just

feeding him

> hordes of salt. But I will make sure he is getting more

electrolytes. He

> was getting a 1/3 of one of those Emergen - c packs (which are

electrolyte

> replenishers) every day and still would occasionally have them, but

I wasn't

> tracking the two. Does barometric pressure effect electrolytes??

That's

> one of his triggers.

>

> Thanks,

>

> From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ]

On

Behalf Of

> s_degiusti

> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:08 PM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: Re: Seizure idea

>

> Sounds like your son really needs salt. I don't know enough about

> the cell food products.

>

> In EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%

40yahoogroups.com> , " Chap'N'Alli "

> <chapnalli@> wrote:

> >

> > LOL! Well I wouldn't have to add it to anything. My son LOVES

> salt and I

> > find him putting our " Real salt " on his hand and licking it

all

of

> the time.

> > I'm constantly changing where I put it. Somewhere I have cell

> food, haven't

> > used it in a while but would that help? -

> >

> > From: EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com> ]

On

> Behalf Of

> > blessingsx10@

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:28 PM

> > To: EOHarm

<mailto:EOHarm%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Seizure idea

> >

> > Okay another thought that has helped some kids. Sounds way out

> there. but

> > won't hurt.

> >

> > Salt -- give them Sea Salt, not your standard table salt!! Sea

> Salt

> > unbleached

> >

> > is preferred.

> >

> > Some kids have more seizures when sodium levels drop.

> > Some of these kids, Electrolytes are out of balance I think with

> meds and

> > all.

> >

> > It may take a while to get the sodium levels normalized so you

may

> not know

> > how its working.

> >

> > I wonder if you could make a solution of 1 tsp of Sea Salt per 8

oz

> glass of

> > water.

> >

> > You could even add at little amount to their yogurt, drinks they

> drink (

> > not juice's -) add it to some veggies, as a way to get it in them

> faster.

> > Just be sure to offer plenty of water to hydrate them so their

> cells take it

> > in well.

> >

> > If nothing else try Pedalyte, or Gatorade, as they are a

electrolyte

> > solution.

> >

> > ( I have seen this work before in some kids with seizures and it

> won't hurt

> > them

> >

> > so its something simple you can try out and see if your child's

> behavior

> > also

> >

> > improves.)

> >

> > _____

> >

> > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

> >

<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?

> redir=htt

> > p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%

26hmpgID=62%

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>

January 8, 2009

Oops – correction – Lithium has been ADDED to the ingredients

list.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Chap'N'Alli

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:31 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: RE: Re: Seizure idea - CELLFOOD

Thank you. I actually had good

results with it for myself when I experienced several episodes of reflux.

But I hadn't seen any of this information so thanks.