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Hello All,

My son has DS and autism and is 8 years old, non-verbal, sweet natured

and loves to " wander " . Needless to say he keeps us on our toes. I am wondering

if any of you out there have seen your kids have difficulty falling asleep or

staying asleep? Griff slept very well when he was younger but for the past few

years things have gotten progressively worse and his sleeping patterns are

keeping the whole household up at odd hours. Any ideas would be so appreciated!

Regards, Kerry

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On another list I met an autistic guy who was saying he actually

needed less sleep than most people. He was grumping about meds being

given to younger autistics for the convenience of their families. A

parent on that list described how her son had trouble sleeping but

*did* need the sleep, as he was usually cranky the next day.

In my opinion, if the kid is fine the next day after a night with

little sleep, you should try to find a way for them to be safely

awake and not keeping you awake - for example making their room safe

for them to play alone in and locking the door or something to keep

them in (I know some people don't like the idea of locking their

child in a room, but most of the time it's fine as long as they have

something fun to do - maybe a favorite stim object?).

Now, if they do seem to need the sleep, try to figure out what is

preventing them from getting it. Could be melatonin deficiency,

could be anxiety, could be overstimulation (either during the night

or a high energy activity just before bedtime).

Hope that helps.

Ettina

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> Hello All,

> My son has DS and autism and is 8 years old, non-verbal,

sweet natured and loves to " wander " . Needless to say he keeps us on

our toes. I am wondering if any of you out there have seen your kids

have difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep? Griff slept very

well when he was younger but for the past few years things have

gotten progressively worse and his sleeping patterns are keeping the

whole household up at odd hours. Any ideas would be so appreciated!

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Hi, I am glad you posted as I was going to mention the same thing.

used to be a great sleeper, through the night and 2 naps. I

know she's getting older, but now its NO naps. She rocks and rocks and

rocks for the 1 to 2 hours I have her have quiet time. And then at

night its hours before falling asleep and up from 2 to 4 (usually)

rocking. I wish I could offer some advice....all I can say is I know

what you're going through!

12-24-02 ds

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> Hello All,

> My son has DS and autism and is 8 years old, non-verbal,

sweet natured and loves to " wander " . Needless to say he keeps us on

our toes. I am wondering if any of you out there have seen your kids

have difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep? Griff slept very

well when he was younger but for the past few years things have gotten

progressively worse and his sleeping patterns are keeping the whole

household up at odd hours. Any ideas would be so appreciated!

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> Regards, Kerry

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In a message dated 11/8/2005 2:30:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

peggyloumorgan@... writes:

I will not

restart the movie until he is in bed with sweats. I know the scenario

about television keeping them awake but if there isn't something playing in

his room he wakes up.

Trisha will wake up if you turn the movie off. She goes to sleep with a

certain movie playing and if you don't have it on she won't go to sleep. I do

make her turn it down very low and she has adjusted to that but no way will

she let you turn it off. It's kinda like when kids need a nite-lite to go to

sleep by.

Carol

She isn't typical, She's Trisha!

If we always do what we always did, we'll always get what we always gotten.

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In a message dated 11/8/2005 2:30:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

peggyloumorgan@... writes:

I know the scenario

about television keeping them awake but if there isn't something playing in

his room he wakes up. The procedure of bedtime routine seems to be the

most important thing for us. That doesn't mean he will always stay asleep

but if his bedtime routine is messed up he will not get to sleep to begin

with.

Hey, we do what we have to do. The fact is if our kids don't get the

sleep they need just like everyone else in the world, they don't function as

well during the day. Maddie takes a melatonin at night. We have a routine

of lining up all her Barney dolls and covering them AND HER with the blanket

(and she giggles...it's funny for some reason). The key for Maddie is

consistency. We put her to bed the same exact time every night, even on

weekends when she has no school. When she was little, we used to have to

run a fan...even in cold weather...she liked the sound. My other daughter

(now 13) used to love the sound of the vaccuum as a baby. So I recorded the

sound and would play it nightly for her.....better than burning out the motor

on my vaccuum.....;-)

Donna

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At 09:52 AM 11/7/2005, you wrote:

>I am wondering if any of you out there have seen your kids have difficulty

>falling asleep or staying asleep?

Sleep has been a major issue for Ray most of his life and medications

are only temporary solutions because he builds up tolerance to them

quickly. One thing we have discovered is that if we put too much gap

between dinner and bed he sort of gets his second wind and may remain awake

all night. The key for us is getting him into his room immediately

following dinner. We have a recliner and he will eat popcorn and watch a

movie in his room before actually getting into bed. We have a routine

where he does that, then gets into his sweats and into bed. I will not

restart the movie until he is in bed with sweats. I know the scenario

about television keeping them awake but if there isn't something playing in

his room he wakes up. The procedure of bedtime routine seems to be the

most important thing for us. That doesn't mean he will always stay asleep

but if his bedtime routine is messed up he will not get to sleep to begin with.

Peggy Lou

www.parentingyourcomplexchild.com

www.lighthouseparents.com

http://parentingacomplexchild.blogspot.com/

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we do something similair with nathan, not right after supper, but at 9pm

every night, he starts his bedtime routine but wont start unless he gets to pick

out his video to have on while he is in bed sleeping. nathan cant eat

popcorn, wouldnt try it anyways, he would choke, but he does love his bedtime

snack.

it usually consists of a glass of milk and a sandwhich or couple cookies, or

small bowl of oatmeal. he takes his bath, gets dressed in sweatpants etc,

and puts on his bipap, and gets tucked all in and we push play. he still even

says scoot over?? so we can tell him to scoot over and lay with him for

awhile. (may favorite time) shawna

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