Re:UC DAVIS M.I.N.D. INSTITUTE STUDY SHOWS CALIFORNIA'S AUTISM INCREASE

[Guest guest]

What I find interesting about this latest M.I.N.D. Study is that the timelag

between the tested population (autists born between 1990 and 2000) and this

study's completion/publication is that most of the media blurbs and certainly

the appologists' opinions will state that this proves vaccines couldn't have

done it. Most people do not bother to actually read anything other than the

most basic conclusion and will assume (and project) that since this study was

conducted in 2009 it proves thimerosal isn't the cause.

When will M.I.N.D. look at the autists born between 2000 and 2008 and see if

autism is less frequent or less severe?

[Guest guest]

....when the individuals funding MIND Inst. care about it; so far, they are spending their time proving that they are not biased one way or the other on the "question." In the meantime, I will not be going to their clinic! Seek Spiritual Results, Lis A. Pineau"Seek peace and pursue it" ~Psalm 34:14http://bp0.blogger.com/_ci83y06mpmA/RmOGujyNp9I/AAAAAAAAAAM/jOMJq7YwuFA/s1600-h/Y+Best+Canoe+shot.JPG

To: EOHarm Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:15:34 PMSubject: Re:UC DAVIS M.I.N.D. INSTITUTE STUDY SHOWS CALIFORNIA'S AUTISM INCREASE

What I find interesting about this latest M.I.N.D. Study is that the timelag between the tested population (autists born between 1990 and 2000) and this study's completion/publicat ion is that most of the media blurbs and certainly the appologists' opinions will state that this proves vaccines couldn't have done it. Most people do not bother to actually read anything other than the most basic conclusion and will assume (and project) that since this study was conducted in 2009 it proves thimerosal isn't the cause.When will M.I.N.D. look at the autists born between 2000 and 2008 and see if autism is less frequent or less severe?

[Guest guest]

To the group

I have heard about about the Principal Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto,very

serious and her work in epidemiology is grade A .

But more importantly , this paper will attract the attention of other

epidemiologist and more than likelly insight them to do further

epidemiological work in the field of autism.

it is notable to mention , that past studies such as Pinolta (2000),

Kayle (2001) , Dale (2001) , ( 2002), Fombonne (2002) , Madsen-

Hviid (2003) , Vertraten (2003) & Fombonne (2006).

All these authors do not have a doctoral degree epidemiology , most

had serious conflict of interest and following there review where

found to incoporate flawed/bias data or poor methodology.

Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto does not have this bagages , a individual

with a doctoral degree in epidemiology do not produce Fluff studies.

My second point relates to the fact , that over the last 3 years a

group of parents in Montreal have been number crunching the data from

the Quebec Ministery of Education , Stat Canada , CRDI DATA and

Observation in actual school.

What I find trully stunning , is that about 3 weeks ago , we where

double checking the data from 1984 to 2008 , in regards to Asperger

autism ( not specified ) and Autism define by the DSMIV diagnostic

criteria.

We had noted that the Graph for Asperger was different from Autism (

not specified )and Autsim . But more importantly the data after 2001

we are seing very interesting correlation between Autism ( not

specified )and Autsim .

What I find trully stunning that two population California & Quebec

that are situated 3000 miles apart ,with very different methos of

tabulating data are producing the same conclusions.

- That the growth in numbers from 1980 to 2008 can not be attributed

only in the change in diagnsotic protocol or awarness .

- Secondly that the introduction of DSMIV protocol , only added

approx 20% to the relative numbers.

It is trully funny , I have been looking at this data for 3 years

I always assume that I had a problem in tabulating , its only after

reading Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto paper and understood the academic

intelectual process to set-up her arguments , that i took 3 days to

re-structure the data and came to the same conclusions.

there one last thing I would like to say , having done the data

crunching myself , what Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto did by bringing the

california data and merging the info with other data sources is

extremelly difficult and time consuming .

It takes somebody with great empirical skill to put this together and

a strong understanding of the autism phenomena , But know you have a

reliable data base to work with in california .

I suspect that this first study was design to break the ice on the

environmental factor and that there is a Tome II to her study.

In quebec we where lucky , all the heavy empirical work had already

done for us by the Quebec ministery of Education .But what we did not

have in our group is someone of her caliber to understand the nuances

of data.

I suspect she already has certain elements in place to produce a

second paper , that will confirm that after 2000 , that there is a

decline in " Growth rates " and that the reduction growth is related to

a significant drop in relative numbers associated to a specific

subgroup , that can be define as Severe autism with multiple handicap.

I would keep an eye on her ,

Pierre

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they are spending their time proving that they are not biased one way

or the other on the " question. "   In the meantime, I will not be going

to their clinic!

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> What I find interesting about this latest M.I.N.D. Study is that

the timelag between the tested population (autists born between 1990

and 2000) and this study's completion/publicat ion is that most of

the media blurbs and certainly the appologists' opinions will state

that this proves vaccines couldn't have done it. Most people do not

bother to actually read anything other than the most basic conclusion

and will assume (and project) that since this study was conducted in

2009 it proves thimerosal isn't the cause.

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> When will M.I.N.D. look at the autists born between 2000 and 2008

and see if autism is less frequent or less severe?

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