Re: Autism regression after the age of 5 ???

[Guest guest]

I know of a beautiful little boy that regressed terribly at age five. They didn't say it was the vaccinations, but that it happened at the start of kindergarten. It makes me so sad because this little boy was in my son's developmental preschool class. He had bond hair that was shaved very close and my son has very dark brown hair shaved very close. They used to touch each others heads and smile. The beautiful little boy, I heard through a friend, started having seizures, was no longer able to control his bowels, and was not doing well. The family it seems attributed the regression to the seizures as he has an older brother with seizures. I would directly attribute it to the kindergarten shots causing the seizures and all the damage. It breaks my heart completely..

I also have another friend whose child was perfectly normal up until age five and now has asperger's.

Regression can happen at any age. Adverse vaccine reactions can happen at any age and any health condition. Think of garsdil and the young women and even our soldiers in the military.

I think that the scariest thing is that regression can continue to happen until the kids get treatment. Until they are treated their bowel disease doesn't get better with time, the mercury toxicity gets worse as more toxins from our environment accumulate, and everything. It seems that you have to fight to maintain their health and then fight even harder to overcome the damage. I think that if their issues aren't addressed things can pop up in their teenage years like seizures and regressions with teens. I have a couple of friends going through a lot now because their kids are going through puberty.

I don't know if this helps, but it's something to think about.

Lynne New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines.

[Guest guest]

Pierre,

If you ask me regression can happen at

any age, and can keep happening depending on immune function. My son

regressed younger after 2 sets of vaccines, however he didn't loose all of his

skills, here and there over the years he lost more with illnesses and then we

had to fight for them back. There are many stories of kids loosing skills

or regression after Kindergarten boosters. I'm sure if my son had received

Kindergarten boosters we would have lost him even more. I have a friend

whose son was maybe slightly on the spectrum with a few issue but talking,

following directions, etc. Then he had surgery at 4 1/4yrs, tubes in his

ears I think, and after that possibly because of anethestia and folate recepter

injury, he lost everything, he can only make a few sounds now and he's almost

11yrs. He is one of the most severe kids I know. But she

unfortunately listens to all of her Doctors and only does main stream

treatments. I'm sure there are many on this list who know kids who have

regressed older. -

From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of morinp2003

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:20 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Autism regression after the age of 5 ???

To the group

Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son regressed

after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

through the same thing .

all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

vaccine campaign in primary school .

This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995 period ,

there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the Hepatitus

b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse reaction .

I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or older

does this ring a bell ?????

Pierre

[Guest guest]

I know of many examples of regression at advanced ages, sometimes as old as 7, 9 or even older, usually after a flu shot or other vaccine.This is another secret - the conventional wisdom being that regression occurs at 18 months.Not always true, but tell that to the public health authorities and they will deny any knowledge of it.To the groupSomething came up , I was a party and met a mother who son regressed after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived through the same thing .all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective vaccine campaign in primary school .This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995 period , there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the Hepatitus b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8 months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse reaction .I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or olderdoes this ring a bell ?????Pierre

[Guest guest]

At 09:20 AM 12/31/2008, you wrote:

>To the group

>

>Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son regressed

>after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

>

>She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

>through the same thing .

>

>all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

>child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

>vaccine campaign in primary school .

>

>This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995 period ,

>there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the Hepatitus

>b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

>

>But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

>months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse reaction .

>

>I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or older

>does this ring a bell ?????

>

>Pierre

I hear about regressions around kindergarten age many many times and

even of teens and adults with behavioral changes and regressions

after other vaccines

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers &

Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in January 2009

[Guest guest]

To the gang

I had a hunch that I was not looking at isolated events , Thank you

people for the imputs .

What I find interesting of the MONTERGIE EVENTS ( Area On the south

shore of Island Montreal) is that it generated a cluster of childreen

mostly high functionning Autism childreen .

One thing is for certain, somebody at the regional health center

realise that there was a problem and terminated the vaccine program .

Its funny , I am looking at a burden of mercury , that once it hits a

certain level , it triggers a events in the child .

Pierre

>

> >To the group

> >

> >Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

regressed

> >after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

> >

> >She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> >through the same thing .

> >

> >all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

> >child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> >vaccine campaign in primary school .

> >

> >This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

period ,

> >there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

Hepatitus

> >b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

> >

> >But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

> >months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

reaction .

> >

> >I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or

older

> >does this ring a bell ?????

> >

> >Pierre

>

>

> I hear about regressions around kindergarten age many many times

and

> even of teens and adults with behavioral changes and regressions

> after other vaccines

> Sheri

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers

&

> Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in January 2009

>

[Guest guest]

That DAN! Doctor (can't think of her name) in Ponte Verde FL - her daughter regressed at 4 yrs old after a round of vaccines. I'm sure someone on here knows her name.

To the groupSomething came up , I was a party and met a mother who son regressed after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived through the same thing .all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective vaccine campaign in primary school .This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995 period , there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the Hepatitus b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was

stop about 6 to 8 months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse reaction .I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or olderdoes this ring a bell ?????Pierre

[Guest guest]

Buckley

>

> That DAN! Doctor (can't think of her name) in Ponte Verde FL - her

> daughter regressed at 4 yrs old after a round of vaccines. I'm sure

> someone on here knows her name.

>

[Guest guest]

Just want you all to know that immediate homeopathic treatment turned 2

four-year-old girls around (that I treated)

But it helps to do it right away

They were regressing into autism

Sheri

At 06:44 PM 12/31/2008, you wrote:

Buckley

>

> That DAN! Doctor (can't think of her name) in Ponte Verde FL - her

> daughter regressed at 4 yrs old after a round of vaccines. I'm sure

> someone on here knows her name.

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a small list of DAN Practioners in Fl.

Hope you are looking for is below.

Lydia Masud, M.D. Miami, FL

Ray Wunderlich, M.D. St. sburg, FL Rene M. , D.C. Clearwater, FL Roy B. Kupsinel, M.D. Oviedo, FL E. Grable, M.D. Jax, FL

A. Hoffman, DC, CNN, DACBN Merritt Island, FL

Jeff Bradstreet, M.D. (International Autism Research Center) Palm Bay, FL Berger, M.D., F.A.A.P. Aventura, FL

Herskowitz MA CCC Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Jerrold J. Kartzinel, M.D. Melbourne, FL Judith Aronson-Ramos, M.D. Parkland, FL R. Braun, R.D., L.D. Miami, FL

Marsh Palm Harbor, FL 34683ph:

Clements

Sarasota, FL 34239ph:

Marin AP, RDSunrise, FL 33323ph:

Courtnee Pingaro

Miami, FL 33173ph: Jenikins, RN, PhDPompano Beach, FL 33062

Marie E MD Alternative HealthMilton, FL 32571ph:

>> That DAN! Doctor (can't think of her name) in Ponte Verde FL - her > daughter regressed at 4 yrs old after a round of vaccines. I'm sure > someone on here knows her name. >

[Guest guest]

In what year did the cluster occur?

CGF

>

> ...I had a hunch that I was not looking at isolated events , Thank

you people for the imputs .

>

> What I find interesting of the MONTERGIE EVENTS ( Area On the south

shore of Island Montreal) is that it generated a cluster of childreen

mostly high functionning Autism childreen...

[Guest guest]

I bet they do know it. Otherwise they would still be pushing those

shots.

My son started regressing at the age of 4. His flu shot played a part

in that. As did a virus ( I believe he got from a child who received

a vaccine), PTSD (medically induced), and acetaminophin, and allergy

meds, IMO.

Oddly enough, at his 4th birthday party my husband and I actually

said, " whew, so far, so good! " We sort of felt like we were through

the " danger zone " of major childhood developmental issues, he had

begun in mainstream preschool and we felt he was on his way!

I had a difficult pregnancy and delivery (flu shot IMO, not just the

mercury, I'm allergic to MSG as well), and EVERY milestone he reached

early and on time. We were very aware of that after such a

complicated birth.

>

> To the group

>

> Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

regressed

> after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

>

> She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> through the same thing .

>

> all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

> child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> vaccine campaign in primary school .

>

> This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

period ,

> there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

Hepatitus

> b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

>

> But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

> months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

reaction .

>

> I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or

older

> does this ring a bell ?????

>

> Pierre

>

[Guest guest]

thefitzenreiterfamily

The vaccine campaign occured in the 1996 to 1997 period , kids in the

monteregie area ( Just south of motreal) in the 6 to 10 year old .

This vaccine campaign was not on a national level , but regional in

certain areas.

The reason I pick up on this vaccine , is that I was looking at visible

minorities , that after 1996 where required to have there kids

vaccinated with the Hep B , for the most these childreen where under 24

months

then I came a document from the quebec gouv about a vaccine campaign

for childreen at the primary level and then I find a second doc , that

state that the program was halted .

What is important to note , the visible minorities in this area is very

small under 7%

In the ministery of education , I found a weird cluster(20 kids Approx

showing up in birth period and the kids are of a lighter form of

autism .

what is interesting to note , this cluster occur in different areas

through province of quebec and not in others.

pierre

> >

> > ...I had a hunch that I was not looking at isolated events , Thank

> you people for the imputs .

> >

> > What I find interesting of the MONTERGIE EVENTS ( Area On the south

> shore of Island Montreal) is that it generated a cluster of childreen

> mostly high functionning Autism childreen...

>

[Guest guest]

What I learn over the last two years , is that our dept.Biologicts

of Health canada is corrupt to the core , I have discovered on at

least 15 different occasion where documents where falsified or design

to milslead .

You have the case of the MMR Urabe that was used in canada from 1985

to 1991 , by 1987 they new it was generated meningistis in kids.

I was actually told by the Quebec gouv officer that the MMR Urabe was

not used in quebec .

You have the falsified document related to the PENTA vaccine (1996-

1998)

what make the hep b vaccine is that why would you vaccinate a

childreen population , where there almost no visible minorities

This one was really stupid .

Pierre

> >

> > To the group

> >

> > Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

> regressed

> > after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

> >

> > She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> > through the same thing .

> >

> > all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and

there

> > child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> > vaccine campaign in primary school .

> >

> > This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

> period ,

> > there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

> Hepatitus

> > b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

> >

> > But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

> > months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

> reaction .

> >

> > I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or

> older

> > does this ring a bell ?????

> >

> > Pierre

> >

>

[Guest guest]

---I personally know of two. One child was 14 and was found by his

mom just standing there not knowing how to saddle up his horse. He

was forgetting how to do all sorts of things,set table ,shower, ect.

I asked if he had been recently vaccinated and the answer was yes. I

had her go to a naturalpath, get him on vits/minerals/detox.He is now

fine. Another person I know got Bels Palsy after a hep-b. Nothing the

docs did helped...Our usual treatments pulled him out of it. There is

definately regression in older children and adults too. Look at the

elderly and flu shots......... In EOHarm , Sheri

Nakken wrote:

>

> At 09:20 AM 12/31/2008, you wrote:

>

> >To the group

> >

> >Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

regressed

> >after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

> >

> >She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> >through the same thing .

> >

> >all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

> >child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> >vaccine campaign in primary school .

> >

> >This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

period ,

> >there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

Hepatitus

> >b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

> >

> >But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

> >months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

reaction .

> >

> >I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or

older

> >does this ring a bell ?????

> >

> >Pierre

>

>

> I hear about regressions around kindergarten age many many times

and

> even of teens and adults with behavioral changes and regressions

> after other vaccines

> Sheri

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers

&

> Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in January 2009

>

[Guest guest]

My mom started regressing at the age of 75. They called that Alzheimer's.

Jackie

> >

> > To the group

> >

> > Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

> regressed

> > after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

> >

> > She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> > through the same thing .

> >

> > all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and there

> > child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> > vaccine campaign in primary school .

> >

> > This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

> period ,

> > there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

> Hepatitus

> > b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

> >

> > But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to 8

> > months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

> reaction .

> >

> > I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age or

> older

> > does this ring a bell ?????

> >

> > Pierre

> >

>

[Guest guest]

---

My dad too jackie...Of course when I looked over his medical records

I found that he had also been double vaccinated eg: doc was so eager

to shoot him up he readministered a vax that had been just given the

week before. This is what happens when you go see a doc sick from

last weeks vaccine..They revaccinate you. Happened to my child as

well. This malpractice shouldnt be " exempt " If an anesteciologist

forgot he already gave you a sedative,and then readministered it

again you bet it would have its day in court.In

EOHarm , " Jackie Lombardo " wrote:

>

> My mom started regressing at the age of 75. They called that

Alzheimer's.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

> > >

> > > To the group

> > >

> > > Something came up , I was a party and met a mother who son

> > regressed

> > > after the age of 5 year of age with asperger .

> > >

> > > She told me about 3 other mothers from the same arae that lived

> > > through the same thing .

> > >

> > > all these mothers lived in the monteregie area of Quebec and

there

> > > child had receive the Hepatitus b vaccine as part of selective

> > > vaccine campaign in primary school .

> > >

> > > This struck a nerve , because I had remembered that in 1995

> > period ,

> > > there was selective vaccine campaign in monteregy using the

> > Hepatitus

> > > b vaccine directed at primary school age childreen .

> > >

> > > But more importantly , the vaccine campaign was stop about 6 to

8

> > > months no explanation other than a brief mention of adverse

> > reaction .

> > >

> > > I had nerver heard of regression at the age of 5 years of age

or

> > older

> > > does this ring a bell ?????

> > >

> > > Pierre

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Aasa

Can you explain this comment

(Right now, it seems to be a bit of a dud.)????

> > >

> > > ...I had a hunch that I was not looking at isolated events ,

Thank

> > you people for the imputs .

> > >

> > > What I find interesting of the MONTERGIE EVENTS ( Area On the

south

> > shore of Island Montreal) is that it generated a cluster of

childreen

> > mostly high functionning Autism childreen...

> >

>