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Laurie,

Here is my free advice take it or leave it. That is the good thing about it

being free!LOL!

Don't compare how Mic behaves for you with your husband or his teachers.

None of my kids behave the same for me as for their dad and my 4 year old is

soft

spoken at day care but certainly not at home.

You say that the patting and bad boy words are effective. Just think about

this-if they are effective why are you still having to use them and are they

techniques you want to use when he is 20 years old or that you want him to use

with others when he is 20?

Ideas, grab yourself a piece of paper and check yourself. For one day or more

mark down how many times you interrupt what you are doing to praise Mic or do

something reinforcing for him when he is behaving. Also mark how many times

you correct Mic in one day. I believe the researchers say that it should be 5

to 1 on the side of positive for a typical kid. I'd say much more for our

kids. I know with it was always so wonderful when he occupied himself that

I

didn't want to interrupt but that backfires.

Do you have a schedule for Mic for use at home? When specific things are

going to happen and ways of incorporating Mic into those routines. Certain

activities that he knows he will be doing with you during the day or evening.

Does

Mic have a way of getting your attention without misbehaving.

I know it is easier to focus on the what do I do when he is bad issue but

personally I think we have missed the boat when we get to that point. I think we

need to work really hard at finding little ways for our kids to communicate

their need for attention and work at routines and positive rewards and

activities so we don't find ourselves having to use crutches (those oops, now he

has

done it and I must react things).

Last but not least, pick your battles, carrying the cat by the neck can't be

happening nor can hurting people but he can learn to carry other things and

that he can get a reaction out of mom for doing that instead of something

harmful to the cat. It is time consuming but the way to get the results in the

long

run.

Karyn Good luck and feel free to delete.

In a message dated 10/7/2005 2:03:25 PM Central Standard Time,

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I know I could be teaching Mic to hit I even asked his teachers if he was

patting them on the butt. Mic does not get slapped or grabbed he gets a pat on

his diaper and very firm NO Bad Boy! Its his pride that gets him.He does not

wanna be the bad boy.I just cant seem to get it if I dont show him its bad

behavior hows he gonna process it. If the behavior amuses him or gives him input

it

becomes repetitive.He gets sensory input being rough. Its always over safety

issues.I do not believe in spanking at all, I do know that right now its the

only method that works. I remember my grandmother used to say " shame on you " and

it worked with me.Steve has always patted Mic on the butt and Steve has more

control over him than anybody.Im so confused and when Im doing it, I hate it.I

have been watching Steve get control and me lose all of it so I cant take Mic

in public places.We are seeing the behaviorist at the school and see what she

says.At home services are not going to happen I doubt we live

50 miles away from school and its 3 hours on their day. I have offered to go

to the school anytime for training but the environment is so different at home

it doesnt work.I keep looking at Steve and thinking why why has he got

control of Mic or at least alot better than I do, if hes wrong.UGH! Laurie

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Laurie, Karyn has presented some good points. One thing I remember from

when I was working in psych I have used with our son . That is not

to use the word " bad " as it can be internalized to the person that they

are bad, which is not the case it is the behavior that is " wrong " . Thus

we have used the word " wrong " in signing/voice about behaviors that are

not acceptable.

One site that I found was very informative about Positive Behavior

Support can be found at http://www.nau.edu/ihd/positive/ click on the

Overview of Positive Behavior Support to read the whole document.

Laurie you have weathered many things the past few years and you will

figure all this out. It just takes time. In between time you can do

some investigating in the school system what is available to help you.

I am still learning.

Louise, Mom to 43 DS, HI, ASD

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At 12:41 PM 10/7/2005, you wrote:

>Do you have a schedule for Mic for use at home? When specific things are

>going to happen and ways of incorporating Mic into those routines. Certain

>activities that he knows he will be doing with you during the day or

>evening. Does

>Mic have a way of getting your attention without misbehaving.

We have found that having a schedule and using it works better than

anything else. It is not that we are medication free but most meds haven't

work nearly as well as having schedules and visuals.

Keeping track for a day or better yet longer is a great idea as well. When

you are in survival mode it is really easy to miss triggers and patterns

that you would catch if you make notes.

Peggy Lou

Lighthouse Parents

www.parentingyourcomplexchild.com

www.lighthouseparents.com

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