Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Been there, lived with it!! FIRST - we bought a hand held shower and switched out the regular shower - made cleaning up alot easier. Then we did alot of encouraging to sit and toilet before tub time. We also used the book Steps to Independance from s. This helped us with mapping out a baseline of when usual bowel times were and gave us a hint of how to set up a schedule. IT took us about a year (until about 9yo) for our son. BUT even with that, he still had many toileting accidents until he was almost 14. The bowel issue, I do believe with some of our kids is that the sensation is not strong enough to teach them and that a timed toileting schedule works better for many years. Elie is 20 - TODAY!! and has not had any incidents in almost a year. But the last 3 years he would have about one every other month. Interesting (to me any way) is that he was able to be dry day and nite by age 5. The bowels were a totally different story - even when he was already toileting independently. BTW - we opted to do away with diapers, pullups, soaker pants, etc altogether before he was 7. We just sent 6 sets of clothes to school and re-filled as needed. It is my thought that not having diapers gave the school incentive to follow a toileting plan - I do not believe it made any difference to Elie. It mattered to me because I was in a state that did notd pay for these products and it was VERY expensive - cheaper to buy white underwear, lots of bleach and wash clothes. Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > >Reply-To: >To: < > >Subject: Toilet Training---Help! >Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:07:40 -0400 > >Hi, all. I haven't posted in a long time, but I read the disgest daily and >so appreciate the wisdom, humor, empathy, and wealth of ideas found here. >You are a great group of individuals :-). > >Quick update---, 6, was diagnosed with ASD a few months ago, and it >has been interesting what kinds of doors have opened for us with that >diagnosis! Well, maybe some of it is simply us becoming aware of what is >available for the asking. Anyway, we now have a great behavior specialist >starting to work with us and with doing ABA, and a truly wonderful >behavioral respite worker who also implements the game plans of the >specialist. It feels really good to have some sort of plan mapped out now; >I no longer feel like I'm just floundering along with Gabe. > >We're working on some basic commands--- " stop " , " point to... " , " give me... " , >etc, and helping him to initiate communication more often. What we've not >addressed yet is toilet training. > >But this morning, after leaving the Gaber in the tub while I went out to >check on another kid, and coming back to find him blowing bubbles in one of >the worst cesspools he's ever created in the tub (and believe me, we've >seen some doozies; that warm tub tends to bring out in the worst in him, if >you know what I mean), I think I've become highly motivated to DO SOMETHING >to help him learn how to use the toilet. > >But, I'm clueless. My typically-developing kids never needed " training " , >just a little teaching and encouraging at the appropriate time. Ain't gonna >happen that way with . He doesn't show *any* signs on being aware of >wetness or poopy diapers, and the only consistency he shows in the matter >is that he poops in the tub without fail. > >Have any of you found any good resources? Books, websites, etc? Or have you >just tackled toilet training like any other skill set, with a picture >schedule, regular sit-on-the-toilet times, and lots of positive >reinforcers? In other words, is the whole process actually pretty simple, >and just needs consistency (something I, ahem, struggle with)? > >I saw a website called AutismToiletTraining.com which promises results with >its $29.95 e-book. Anyone familiar with this? Is it worth the money, >considering that it's not even a " real " book? > >Any input would be much appreciated, not only by me, but also by dh and >siblings! > >TIA, > >Joni > > > >-------------------------------------------------- >Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of >our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by >including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the >archives for our list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ >-------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hi Sara, happy birthday to Elie, hope it was a good one, 20yrs, yeaaa, Dawn s mom > Been there, lived with it!! FIRST - we bought a hand held shower and > switched out the regular shower - made cleaning up alot easier. Then we did > alot of encouraging to sit and toilet before tub time. We also used the > book Steps to Independance from s. This helped us with mapping out a > baseline of when usual bowel times were and gave us a hint of how to set up > a schedule. IT took us about a year (until about 9yo) for our son. BUT > even with that, he still had many toileting accidents until he was almost > 14. The bowel issue, I do believe with some of our kids is that the > sensation is not strong enough to teach them and that a timed toileting > schedule works better for many years. Elie is 20 - TODAY!! and has not had > any incidents in almost a year. But the last 3 years he would have about > one every other month. Interesting (to me any way) is that he was able to > be dry day and nite by age 5. The bowels were a totally different story - > even when he was already toileting independently. > > BTW - we opted to do away with diapers, pullups, soaker pants, etc > altogether before he was 7. We just sent 6 sets of clothes to school and > re-filled as needed. It is my thought that not having diapers gave the > school incentive to follow a toileting plan - I do not believe it made any > difference to Elie. It mattered to me because I was in a state that did > notd pay for these products and it was VERY expensive - cheaper to buy > white underwear, lots of bleach and wash clothes. > > Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >From: <sjhammond@c...> > >Reply-To: > >To: < > > >Subject: Toilet Training---Help! > >Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:07:40 -0400 > > > >Hi, all. I haven't posted in a long time, but I read the disgest daily and > >so appreciate the wisdom, humor, empathy, and wealth of ideas found here. > >You are a great group of individuals :-). > > > >Quick update---, 6, was diagnosed with ASD a few months ago, and it > >has been interesting what kinds of doors have opened for us with that > >diagnosis! Well, maybe some of it is simply us becoming aware of what is > >available for the asking. Anyway, we now have a great behavior specialist > >starting to work with us and with doing ABA, and a truly wonderful > >behavioral respite worker who also implements the game plans of the > >specialist. It feels really good to have some sort of plan mapped out now; > >I no longer feel like I'm just floundering along with Gabe. > > > >We're working on some basic commands--- " stop " , " point to... " , " give me... " , > >etc, and helping him to initiate communication more often. What we've not > >addressed yet is toilet training. > > > >But this morning, after leaving the Gaber in the tub while I went out to > >check on another kid, and coming back to find him blowing bubbles in one of > >the worst cesspools he's ever created in the tub (and believe me, we've > >seen some doozies; that warm tub tends to bring out in the worst in him, if > >you know what I mean), I think I've become highly motivated to DO SOMETHING > >to help him learn how to use the toilet. > > > >But, I'm clueless. My typically-developing kids never needed " training " , > >just a little teaching and encouraging at the appropriate time. Ain't gonna > >happen that way with . He doesn't show *any* signs on being aware of > >wetness or poopy diapers, and the only consistency he shows in the matter > >is that he poops in the tub without fail. > > > >Have any of you found any good resources? Books, websites, etc? Or have you > >just tackled toilet training like any other skill set, with a picture > >schedule, regular sit-on-the-toilet times, and lots of positive > >reinforcers? In other words, is the whole process actually pretty simple, > >and just needs consistency (something I, ahem, struggle with)? > > > >I saw a website called AutismToiletTraining.com which promises results with > >its $29.95 e-book. Anyone familiar with this? Is it worth the money, > >considering that it's not even a " real " book? > > > >Any input would be much appreciated, not only by me, but also by dh and > >siblings! > > > >TIA, > > > >Joni > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- > >Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of > >our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by > >including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the > >archives for our list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ > >-------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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