autism and vaccines

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To start withm autism is NOT diagnosed around the time vaccines are given. This

is commonly repeated by people in media as well as many " experts " in various

positions in the medical world. The average age of diagnosis in the US remains

about 42-45 months, while the lionsshare of vaccines are given before 18 mos.

What IS temporal is the use of pediatric vaccines and parental notice of

regression, which is an entirely different matter, and considering how often

parents' observations are dismissed as useless anecdotal reports, it hardly

seems fitting to utilize their reports in this dismissive manner.

In truth, I am not aware of any study which has absolutely quantified the

average or median age of diagnosis in the US, and there is conflicting evidence.

The (pr)Offits of the world would like us to believe that autism is diagnosed

around the time that vaccines are administered, and meanwhile the Laidlers of

the world point out that the data tabulated by TAAP using US Dept of Ed records

are untrustworthy because children are STILL being identified as autistic in

middle school. You can't have it both ways.

And yes I realize that there is a broad gap between medical diagnosies and

educational diagnosies, but with all the media blitz and internet push parents

are far more likely to hammer for the truth than they were just a decade ago,

and the gap between the two cannot be so very great that both suppositions

listed above can hold true.

I for one am groing completely fed up with the bullshit double talk coming from

the mouths of people getting paid 6 figures+ by the govt., hospitals and

universities while they skim another 6 figures behind the back from the industry

they should be skeptical of and bird-dogging in the public interest.

On the matter of thimerosal content of vaccines, accor\ding to the FDA, MUCH of

the thimerosal has indeed been removed from the pediatric schedule, although not

all. Gone is MOST of the thimerosal used as a preservative, but remaining is

the thimerosal used in the process of manufacturing. Supposedly this is

filtered out, but there is no independant testing to verify this is actually

being done. There are ste still several vaccines containing thimerosal in

pre-1999 levels, one of the DPT's one of the Hep B's, one of the Hep A's, and of

course they have added in 4 flu shots with full dose, thereby undoing several of

te removals in the net total.

And they have added into the reformulated shots salts of aluminum to replace the

thimerosal (still need a biocide preservative, after all). I am no chemist or

toxicologist to know whether 1400 mu of aluminum is more, less or equally as

toxic as 25 mu of mercury, but aluminum is a known neurologically toxic element,

and is suspected as contributing to alzheimers among other conditions.

Bottom line is, none of the studies conducted by the experts actually answers

the question " do vaccines cause autism " . They have all been, without exception,

statistical manipulations conducted by people with everything to lose if the

answer is " yes " . To date the CDC and NIH have refused to compare unvaccinated

children to vaccinated children, which is the only population study which

conceivably COULD answer the question. They also embargo all datasets to

prevent anyone from recollating the data in any manner other than they way they

have done, just to " check the math " .

What truly amazes me to no end, is the " circling of the wagons " that has occured

concerning vaccines. The CDC has been caught grossly exxagerting the benfit of

several vaccines and grossly underreporting the adverse events that can occur,

and the media eats it up right off their spoon. We have seen the same behavior

from the FDA in several other classes of drugs, and the media picks right up on

this, but for some strange reason the newshounds drop their role in life as

skeptical watchdogs when it comes to vaccines.

And the population spike of autistic children which began sometime in the

mid/late 80's is just coming to age to require full-time residential care, which

will strain the Medicaire budget beyond means just at the time the Boomers begin

to at the other end of the population, and we as a nation are nowhere near ready

to foot the bill. Gonna make the current financial market crisis look like

nothing when reality sets in.

From: Avril, Tom <tavrilphillynews (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Vaccines/autism/ offit

To: maurine...

Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:23 AM

Thank you for your note.

It's my understanding that with the exception of some flu vaccines, there is no

thimerosal in vaccines given to very young children, which is when autism tends

to be diagnosed, as you know.

In the study by the CDC's Bill , the government has studied people who

got thimerosal-free vaccines vs people who got vaccines with thimerosal. They

found no connection with autism and thimerosal.

If someone ever finds otherwise, believe me, we will report it.

-Tom Avril