Re: I just called Obama's office with a plea

[Guest guest]

I can't help but wonder (and this not directed at one in particular), if the shoe were on the other foot,if McCain made the same statement, would he be given the benefit of the doubt? If a mass push for clarifcation was enacted and successful, would he be forgiven and believed? Or would he then become a flip flpper?

Just curious.

> > > >> > > > "I do not support selective vaccination" is a direct quote from > > > Obama.> > >> > > ,> > > The problem is that this quote lacks meaningful context. There are> > > politicians, for example that are pro-life personally, but are not> > > against pro-choice as policy.> > >> > > I think it rather specious, and tabloid, based on a single quote, for> > > further example, to argue that this means Obama is against all the> > > exemptions in vaccine laws across the states. Come on, is Obama> > > really against medical exemptions for vaccination -- which is a> > > selection? I doubt it.> > >> > > I am trying to point out how easy some folks go for the throat of> > > either candidate based on the flimsiest data.> > >> > > The AofA piece is tabloid journalism -- internet road kill. They have> > > done better.> > >> > > Lenny> > >> > >> > > > > > > J. Krakow> > Law Office of J. Krakow, P.C.> > 1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110> > Garden City, New York 11530> > > > (NYC)> > (fax)> > (Mobile)> > rkrakow@> >>

[Guest guest]

Forgiven, believed? Not really the intent of this plea.

And all politicians are fip floppers, McCain is no exception, neither is Obama.

Clarification was needed. In his questionaire Obama did clearly state he

would remove mercury from vaccines. But his statement to the Mom at the

fundraiser raised the necessity to meet with him to show our science. It

showed he didn't understand the magnitude of the question and the reason's for

it being asked, which showed me a lack of our community's interaction with him.

The answer sounded like it was coming from a pro vs anti vaccine stance, and as

we all know it's not that black and white. We don't know how the question

was phrased nor his intent of answering that way. The polio talk really

shows that he is not informed from a science standpoint. All I am asking

is for clarification and a chance to show our science. Just like you

asked and received from McCain. This is not personal it's politics and if

McCain said something similar I would be on the phone asking for the same

thing. -

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Lin

Wessels

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:36 AM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: I just called Obama's office with a plea

I can't help but wonder (and this

not directed at one in particular), if the shoe were on the other foot,if

McCain made the same statement, would he be given the benefit of the

doubt? If a mass push for clarifcation was enacted and successful, would

he be forgiven and believed? Or would he then become a flip flpper?

Just curious.

> > > >

> > > > " I do not support selective vaccination " is a

direct quote from

> > > Obama.

> > >

> > > ,

> > > The problem is that this quote lacks meaningful context. There

are

> > > politicians, for example that are pro-life personally, but are

not

> > > against pro-choice as policy.

> > >

> > > I think it rather specious, and tabloid, based on a single

quote, for

> > > further example, to argue that this means Obama is against all

the

> > > exemptions in vaccine laws across the states. Come on, is Obama

> > > really against medical exemptions for vaccination -- which is a

> > > selection? I doubt it.

> > >

> > > I am trying to point out how easy some folks go for the throat

of

> > > either candidate based on the flimsiest data.

> > >

> > > The AofA piece is tabloid journalism -- internet road kill. They

have

> > > done better.

> > >

> > > Lenny

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > J. Krakow

> > Law Office of J. Krakow, P.C.

> > 1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110

> > Garden City, New York 11530

> >

> > (NYC)

> > (fax)

> > (Mobile)

> > rkrakow@

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Great Idea, I am making my notes and will be calling in today...I

have to make notes or else I fear I might just be way to emotional

and not be able to think straight..lol!

I think that we shouldnt just make one call and thats it, we need to

keep persisting until Obama KNOWS we are never going to stop or 'give

up'....so we need to make calls, several calls each. I surely do not

want to 'bother' them, or make us seem whacky, but I am sure that as

long as we stick to the facts, and present TRUE facts and share our

personal stories, we can do it!

Thanks for the idea!

Angie

Mom to Ethan, , and

>

> >

> > So I know there are many of us with differing political party

> > affiliations/opinions/leanings but I am hoping maybe some might

join

> > me in an a plea to have Obama meet with ANYONE with our

prospective

> > and from our side.

> >

> >

> >

> > I called the campaign office after reading today's AOA piece. I

> > told them they are about to lose a very big voting block and

from

> > Senator Obama's comments I could tell he has not sat down and/or

> > seen the science with anyone from our community. His stance on

> > science is strong because he disagrees so strongly with

Bush's " non

> > science " stance. I begged that time is short and the information

we

> > have is too important and too complex for a question answer

session

> > at a town hall meeting. I was clear that Senator McCain has

already

> > done this and that Hillary Clinton has also seen much of the

> > science. He personally needs some exposure to the science,

personal

> > nature of our situations and directly from someone from our

> > community. I gave several names, including Dr. Poling and others

to

> > have him reach out to or to myself or any other A-CHAMP

> > representative. I left my name, number and e-mail. Is this

a " Hail

> > " plea? Yes, it is but nothing is impossible and if we are

> > going to educate him the best time is now before one or the other

is

> > elected into office. I was clear that Bush has given us 8 years

of

> > brick walls and no one in this community will give a chance to

> > anyone who might possibly shut the door on our largest

concerns.

> > So, Anyone want to join me in calling campaign headquarters to

> > second what I requested?? - Chapman chapnalli@...

> >

> >

> >

> > PS I also said Autism Speaks does not speak for a large number

of

> > the autism community and that is not who I am requesting he meet

with.

> >

> >

> >

> > Obama's campaign number (she thought maybe I should call the

> > legislative office but I told her this was also a campaign issue

> > with a large voting block, I think we should do both)

> >

> >

> >

> > PLEASE BE CURTIOUS WHEN CALLING….This is a plea to show our

science

> > not a lynching.

> >

> > There is an option to speak to a staffer/volunteer. She tried

to

> > type everything I was saying so we should probably coordinate

> > talking points.

> >

> > Talking points

> >

> > -Let us show you the science, biological science, mercury

toxicity

> > science, etc

> >

> > -Not antivaccine for safe vaccines

> >

> > -We meet with legislators often and name them ( I told them I

sat

> > with Kennedy's staff for 2 hours in June this is what might have

> > hooked her)

> >

> > -Autism Speaks is run like a corporation not a charity by " the

> > parents " , so they don't speak for us

> >

> > -Bush is not our friend (important to mention since he wants to

> > totally change the status quo)

> >

> > -McCain has met with us and has seen the science and understands

the

> > toxicity of thimerosal and he has promised to take on the drug

> > companies

> >

> > -We are a huge voting block and have grassroots organization full

of

> > passion to fight for our kids and his (he loves grass root orgs)

> >

> > End with Please meet with one of us personally for longer than a

> > question answer session. It's too complex and way too important

not

> > to.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> J. Krakow

> Law Office of J. Krakow, P.C.

> 1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110

> Garden City, New York 11530

>

> (NYC)

> (fax)

> (Mobile)

> rkrakow@...

>

[Guest guest]

Are we a really big voting block?

Pamela

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Chap'N'Alli

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:48 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: I just called Obama's office with a plea

So

I know there are many of us with differing political party affiliations/opinions/leanings

but I am hoping maybe some might join me in an a plea to have Obama meet with

ANYONE with our prospective and from our side.

I

called the campaign office after reading today's AOA piece. I told them

they are about to lose a very big voting block and from Senator Obama's

comments I could tell he has not sat down and/or seen the science with anyone

from our community. His stance on science is strong because he disagrees

so strongly with Bush's " non science " stance. I begged that

time is short and the information we have is too important and too complex for

a question answer session at a town hall meeting. I was clear that Senator

McCain has already done this and that Hillary Clinton has also seen much of the

science. He personally needs some exposure to the science, personal

nature of our situations and directly from someone from our community. I

gave several names, including Dr. Poling and others to have him reach out to or

to myself or any other A-CHAMP representative. I left my name, number and

e-mail. Is this a " Hail " plea? Yes, it is but

nothing is impossible and if we are going to educate him the best time is now

before one or the other is elected into office. I was clear that Bush has

given us 8 years of brick walls and no one in this community will give a chance

to anyone who might possibly shut the door on our largest concerns. So,

Anyone want to join me in calling campaign headquarters to second what I

requested?? - Chapman chapnalli@...

PS

I also said Autism Speaks does not speak for a large number of the autism

community and that is not who I am requesting he meet with.

Obama's campaign number (she thought maybe I should call

the legislative office but I told her this was also a campaign issue with a

large voting block, I think we should do both)

PLEASE BE CURTIOUS WHEN CALLING….This is a plea to

show our science not a lynching.

There is an option to speak to a staffer/volunteer.

She tried to type everything I was saying so we should probably coordinate

talking points.

Talking points

-Let us show you the science, biological science, mercury

toxicity science, etc

-Not antivaccine for safe vaccines

-We meet with legislators often and name them ( I told

them I sat with Kennedy's staff for 2 hours in June this is what might have

hooked her)

-Autism Speaks is run like a corporation not a charity by

" the parents " , so they don't speak for us

-Bush is not our friend (important to mention since he

wants to totally change the status quo)

-McCain has met with us and has seen the science and

understands the toxicity of thimerosal and he has promised to take on the drug

companies

-We are a huge voting block and have grassroots

organization full of passion to fight for our kids and his (he loves grass root

orgs)

End with Please meet with one of us personally for longer

than a question answer session. It's too complex and way too important

not to.

[Guest guest]

Well with 1 in 150 kids with autism and 54% of parents believing

vaccines had something to do with their child's autism..I'd say yeah

we are.

>

> Are we a really big voting block?

>

>

>

> Pamela

>

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Chap'N'Alli

> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:48 PM

> To: EOHarm

> Subject: I just called Obama's office with a plea

>

>

>

> So I know there are many of us with differing political party

> affiliations/opinions/leanings but I am hoping maybe some might

join me in

> an a plea to have Obama meet with ANYONE with our prospective and

from our

> side.

>

>

>

> I called the campaign office after reading today's AOA piece. I

told them

> they are about to lose a very big voting block and from Senator

Obama's

> comments I could tell he has not sat down and/or seen the science

with

> anyone from our community. His stance on science is strong because

he

> disagrees so strongly with Bush's " non science " stance. I begged

that time

> is short and the information we have is too important and too

complex for a

> question answer session at a town hall meeting. I was clear that

Senator

> McCain has already done this and that Hillary Clinton has also seen

much of

> the science. He personally needs some exposure to the science,

personal

> nature of our situations and directly from someone from our

community. I

> gave several names, including Dr. Poling and others to have him

reach out to

> or to myself or any other A-CHAMP representative. I left my name,

number

> and e-mail. Is this a " Hail " plea? Yes, it is but nothing is

> impossible and if we are going to educate him the best time is now

before

> one or the other is elected into office. I was clear that Bush has

given us

> 8 years of brick walls and no one in this community will give a

chance to

> anyone who might possibly shut the door on our largest concerns.

So, Anyone

> want to join me in calling campaign headquarters to second what I

> requested?? - Chapman chapnalli@...

>

>

>

> PS I also said Autism Speaks does not speak for a large number of

the autism

> community and that is not who I am requesting he meet with.

>

>

>

> Obama's campaign number (she thought maybe I should call the

legislative

> office but I told her this was also a campaign issue with a large

voting

> block, I think we should do both)

>

>

>

> PLEASE BE CURTIOUS WHEN CALLING..This is a plea to show our science

not a

> lynching.

>

> There is an option to speak to a staffer/volunteer. She tried to

type

> everything I was saying so we should probably coordinate talking

points.

>

> Talking points

>

> -Let us show you the science, biological science, mercury toxicity

science,

> etc

>

> -Not antivaccine for safe vaccines

>

> -We meet with legislators often and name them ( I told them I sat

with

> Kennedy's staff for 2 hours in June this is what might have hooked

her)

>

> -Autism Speaks is run like a corporation not a charity by " the

parents " , so

> they don't speak for us

>

> -Bush is not our friend (important to mention since he wants to

totally

> change the status quo)

>

> -McCain has met with us and has seen the science and understands the

> toxicity of thimerosal and he has promised to take on the drug

companies

>

> -We are a huge voting block and have grassroots organization full

of passion

> to fight for our kids and his (he loves grass root orgs)

>

> End with Please meet with one of us personally for longer than a

question

> answer session. It's too complex and way too important not to.

>

[Guest guest]

Agreed, . My husband and I like to say the following when talking to

legislators

about the voting block that we represent. This was taken from an A-CHAMP/ Autism

Action Coalition alert against Savage that we helped to write, and

anyone can use

this when talking with campaign staff or legislators:

" Autism affects 1 in 150 children in the USA. Each of those children has a

circle of family,

friends and supporters who share the concerns of the child. We would say that

there are

likely 10 people for every child with autism who shares that child's concerns.

When you consider this request, please consider that as many as 1 in 15

Americans will be

watching your decision and how you react will have a powerful impact on their

opinion of

your company. "

> >

> > Are we a really big voting block?

> >

> >

> >

> > Pamela

> >

> >

> >

> > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Chap'N'Alli

> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:48 PM

> > To: EOHarm

> > Subject: I just called Obama's office with a plea

> >

> >

> >

> > So I know there are many of us with differing political party

> > affiliations/opinions/leanings but I am hoping maybe some might

> join me in

> > an a plea to have Obama meet with ANYONE with our prospective and

> from our

> > side.

> >

> >

> >

> > I called the campaign office after reading today's AOA piece. I

> told them

> > they are about to lose a very big voting block and from Senator

> Obama's

> > comments I could tell he has not sat down and/or seen the science

> with

> > anyone from our community. His stance on science is strong because

> he

> > disagrees so strongly with Bush's " non science " stance. I begged

> that time

> > is short and the information we have is too important and too

> complex for a

> > question answer session at a town hall meeting. I was clear that

> Senator

> > McCain has already done this and that Hillary Clinton has also seen

> much of

> > the science. He personally needs some exposure to the science,

> personal

> > nature of our situations and directly from someone from our

> community. I

> > gave several names, including Dr. Poling and others to have him

> reach out to

> > or to myself or any other A-CHAMP representative. I left my name,

> number

> > and e-mail. Is this a " Hail " plea? Yes, it is but nothing is

> > impossible and if we are going to educate him the best time is now

> before

> > one or the other is elected into office. I was clear that Bush has

> given us

> > 8 years of brick walls and no one in this community will give a

> chance to

> > anyone who might possibly shut the door on our largest concerns.

> So, Anyone

> > want to join me in calling campaign headquarters to second what I

> > requested?? - Chapman chapnalli@

> >

> >

> >

> > PS I also said Autism Speaks does not speak for a large number of

> the autism

> > community and that is not who I am requesting he meet with.

> >

> >

> >

> > Obama's campaign number (she thought maybe I should call the

> legislative

> > office but I told her this was also a campaign issue with a large

> voting

> > block, I think we should do both)

> >

> >

> >

> > PLEASE BE CURTIOUS WHEN CALLING..This is a plea to show our science

> not a

> > lynching.

> >

> > There is an option to speak to a staffer/volunteer. She tried to

> type

> > everything I was saying so we should probably coordinate talking

> points.

> >

> > Talking points

> >

> > -Let us show you the science, biological science, mercury toxicity

> science,

> > etc

> >

> > -Not antivaccine for safe vaccines

> >

> > -We meet with legislators often and name them ( I told them I sat

> with

> > Kennedy's staff for 2 hours in June this is what might have hooked

> her)

> >

> > -Autism Speaks is run like a corporation not a charity by " the

> parents " , so

> > they don't speak for us

> >

> > -Bush is not our friend (important to mention since he wants to

> totally

> > change the status quo)

> >

> > -McCain has met with us and has seen the science and understands the

> > toxicity of thimerosal and he has promised to take on the drug

> companies

> >

> > -We are a huge voting block and have grassroots organization full

> of passion

> > to fight for our kids and his (he loves grass root orgs)

> >

> > End with Please meet with one of us personally for longer than a

> question

> > answer session. It's too complex and way too important not to.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We are a powerful voting block if we vote as an organized block.Agreed, . My husband and I like to say the following when talking to legislators about the voting block that we represent. This was taken from an A-CHAMP/ Autism Action Coalition alert against Savage that we helped to write, and anyone can use this when talking with campaign staff or legislators:"Autism affects 1 in 150 children in the USA. Each of those children has a circle of family, friends and supporters who share the concerns of the child. We would say that there are likely 10 people for every child with autism who shares that child's concerns.When you consider this request, please consider that as many as 1 in 15 Americans will be watching your decision and how you react will have a powerful impact on their opinion of your company."> >> > Are we a really big voting block?> > > > > > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > Behalf Of> > Chap'N'Alli> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:48 PM> > To: EOHarm > > Subject: I just called Obama's office with a plea> > > > > > > > So I know there are many of us with differing political party> > affiliations/opinions/leanings but I am hoping maybe some might > join me in> > an a plea to have Obama meet with ANYONE with our prospective and > from our> > side. > > > > > > > > I called the campaign office after reading today's AOA piece. I > told them> > they are about to lose a very big voting block and from Senator > Obama's> > comments I could tell he has not sat down and/or seen the science > with> > anyone from our community. His stance on science is strong because > he> > disagrees so strongly with Bush's "non science" stance. I begged > that time> > is short and the information we have is too important and too > complex for a> > question answer session at a town hall meeting. I was clear that > Senator> > McCain has already done this and that Hillary Clinton has also seen > much of> > the science. He personally needs some exposure to the science, > personal> > nature of our situations and directly from someone from our > community. I> > gave several names, including Dr. Poling and others to have him > reach out to> > or to myself or any other A-CHAMP representative. I left my name, > number> > and e-mail. Is this a "Hail " plea? Yes, it is but nothing is> > impossible and if we are going to educate him the best time is now > before> > one or the other is elected into office. I was clear that Bush has > given us> > 8 years of brick walls and no one in this community will give a > chance to> > anyone who might possibly shut the door on our largest concerns. > So, Anyone> > want to join me in calling campaign headquarters to second what I> > requested?? - Chapman chapnalli@> > > > > > > > PS I also said Autism Speaks does not speak for a large number of > the autism> > community and that is not who I am requesting he meet with. > > > > > > > > Obama's campaign number (she thought maybe I should call the > legislative> > office but I told her this was also a campaign issue with a large > voting> > block, I think we should do both)> > > > > > > > PLEASE BE CURTIOUS WHEN CALLING..This is a plea to show our science > not a> > lynching. > > > > There is an option to speak to a staffer/volunteer. She tried to > type> > everything I was saying so we should probably coordinate talking > points. > > > > Talking points> > > > -Let us show you the science, biological science, mercury toxicity > science,> > etc> > > > -Not antivaccine for safe vaccines> > > > -We meet with legislators often and name them ( I told them I sat > with> > Kennedy's staff for 2 hours in June this is what might have hooked > her)> > > > -Autism Speaks is run like a corporation not a charity by "the > parents", so> > they don't speak for us> > > > -Bush is not our friend (important to mention since he wants to > totally> > change the status quo)> > > > -McCain has met with us and has seen the science and understands the> > toxicity of thimerosal and he has promised to take on the drug > companies> > > > -We are a huge voting block and have grassroots organization full > of passion> > to fight for our kids and his (he loves grass root orgs)> > > > End with Please meet with one of us personally for longer than a > question> > answer session. It's too complex and way too important not to.> >> J. KrakowLaw Office of J. Krakow, P.C.1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, New York 11530 (NYC) (fax) (Mobile)rkrakow@...

[Guest guest]

Yes, , I know you would.

Sorry if I've offended.

I hope there are clear results from the efforts being made. It is definately warranted!

Lin

> > > > >> > > > > "I do not support selective vaccination" is a direct quote from > > > > Obama.> > > >> > > > ,> > > > The problem is that this quote lacks meaningful context. There are> > > > politicians, for example that are pro-life personally, but are not> > > > against pro-choice as policy.> > > >> > > > I think it rather specious, and tabloid, based on a single quote, for> > > > further example, to argue that this means Obama is against all the> > > > exemptions in vaccine laws across the states. Come on, is Obama> > > > really against medical exemptions for vaccination -- which is a> > > > selection? I doubt it.> > > >> > > > I am trying to point out how easy some folks go for the throat of> > > > either candidate based on the flimsiest data.> > > >> > > > The AofA piece is tabloid journalism -- internet road kill. They have> > > > done better.> > > >> > > > Lenny> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > J. Krakow> > > Law Office of J. Krakow, P.C.> > > 1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110> > > Garden City, New York 11530> > > > > > (NYC)> > > (fax)> > > (Mobile)> > > rkrakow@> > >> >>