Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I saw him at a small local talk I think last year in a video on you tube. He said mentioned that he was personally affected by autism (but didn't specify if it was family or friend) and that his wife has had a lot of influence on his thinking about special needs since she was a special ed teacher. I'd like to think he's sincere but I trust no one anymore Kerrie In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he'sfighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lipservice, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressedthat he even mentioned it.Thoughts? Comments?It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Did you see the piece on McCain? She got a degree in special ed and worked for poor migrant children with special needs when she was younger. I think we have a better chance for getting something done for our kids with the mccain/palin ticket. Subject: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:37 PM In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he'sfighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lipservice, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressedthat he even mentioned it.Thoughts? Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 but where is NOW? and is she running for president? I sooo hear what you are saying....BUT I worked with Special Olympics when I was young too. I felt pretty great about it and occasionally mentioned it proudly and patted myself on the back quite strongly. Of course - that was before I was mom to two ASD boys...and knew what it meant. Ironic thing is that my Special Olympic charges were Autistic (well I knew the word then but now I know what it means). And at least now I know why they never seemed to respond to me and don't take it personally anymore. I'm JUST saying that our issues do not move the world at large YET but we are getting there. I don't think we can vote in the hope that one candidate over the other will rescue or help us. Don't be so desperate to vote on this issue alone - (don't get me wrong, if either candidate said they'd find out what happened and fix us I'd vote 100% and wear T-shirts too). We're not going to get any real info on this, I predict. I'd say vote with your gut, that's what I'm doing and it has nothing to do with our platform since I'm not willing to search through the few crumbs we've been offered. > > > Subject: McCain mentioned autism..... > To: EOHarm > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:37 PM > > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > that he even mentioned it. > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I think it shows she has a heart for special needs children. She seems to have a heart for kids all around the world who are suffering. She has a history of helping suffering children - I don't think it's just politics. Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:03 PM but where is NOW? and is she running for president? I sooo hear what you are saying....BUT I worked with Special Olympics when I was young too. I felt pretty great about it and occasionally mentioned it proudly and patted myself on the back quite strongly. Of course - that was before I was mom to two ASD boys...and knew what it meant. Ironic thing is that my Special Olympic charges were Autistic (well I knew the word then but now I know what it means). And at least now I know why they never seemed to respond to me and don't take it personally anymore.I'm JUST saying that our issues do not move the world at large YET but we are getting there. I don't think we can vote in the hope that one candidate over the other will rescue or help us. Don't be so desperate to vote on this issue alone - (don't get me wrong, if either candidate said they'd find out what happened and fix us I'd vote 100% and wear T-shirts too). We're not going to get any real info on this, I predict. I'd say vote with your gut, that's what I'm doing and it has nothing to do with our platform since I'm not willing to search through the few crumbs we've been offered. > > > Subject: McCain mentioned autism.....> To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:37 PM> > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's> fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip> service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed> that he even mentioned it.> > Thoughts? Comments?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 My question about her is -- how can a beautiful woman like her marry THAT guy? > > > > From: autismlink <cindy@> > > Subject: McCain mentioned autism..... > > To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm > impressed > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I think it's fascinating that Hillary, Bill and mentioned autism in their speeches. They didn't mention cancer (well, yeah, Hillary's autism mom also had cancer), they didn't mention any other illness in our country but autism. I think all of us should pat ourselves on the back for making our country sit up and listen to us. Our children are sick and they are everywhere and we need help. Will McCain do anything about it? I have every hope. Lin has done a fantastic job and I hope she is still in touch with him? > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > that he even mentioned it. > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I know that my experience is limited in little ol' Pennsylvania, but the wheeling and dealing that goes on behind closed doors is amazing. You wouldn't believe it. (Well, you guys probably WOULD.) Even those candidates with the best intentions probably can't get anything done with all of the special interest groups. > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Guess our government can no longer ignore the incredible rates of autism in this country and around the world. The "big secret" is out. They have to talk about it. Everytime I hear about "healthcare" reform, I cringe. Here is some "healthcare" reform that will affect a huge population of Americans - how about free hyperbaric oxygen, supplements, chelation, ABA, etc. to ALL kids in this country with autism. Autism has to easliy be the most expensive "disorder" on the planet. The IRS audited us last year because they could not believe what we were spending out-of pocket for autism-related medical expenses for our son. When I sent them all the information they requested, I included a cover letter explaining the wonderful world of autism and how health insurance pays for NOTHING that helps our kids. It just breaks my heart when I think of all the kids that are hurting, sick and lost in their autism because the parents can not afford to do biomedical. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox - it's just so frustrating!! Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:06 AM I think it's fascinating that Hillary, Bill and mentioned autismin their speeches. They didn't mention cancer (well, yeah, Hillary'sautism mom also had cancer), they didn't mention any other illness inour country but autism. I think all of us should pat ourselves on theback for making our country sit up and listen to us. Our children aresick and they are everywhere and we need help. Will McCain doanything about it? I have every hope. Lin has done a fantastic joband I hope she is still in touch with him? >> In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's> fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip> service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed> that he even mentioned it.> > Thoughts? Comments?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Both candidates have stated that they will not let special interests groups control their decisions. Time will tell... Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:13 AM I know that my experience is limited in little ol' Pennsylvania, butthe wheeling and dealing that goes on behind closed doors is amazing.You wouldn't believe it. (Well, you guys probably WOULD.)Even those candidates with the best intentions probably can't getanything done with all of the special interest groups.> >> > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's> > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip> > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed> > that he even mentioned it.> > > > Thoughts? Comments?> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Here is a transcript of exactly what he said: I fight for Jake and Toni Wimmer of lin County, Pennsylvania. Jake... Jake works on a loading dock, coaches Little League, and raises money for the mentally and physically disabled. Toni is a schoolteacher, working toward her master's degree. They have two sons. The youngest, Luke, has been diagnosed with autism. Their lives should matter to the people they elect to office. And they matter to me. And they matter to you. > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 maybe because she has had plastic surgery and he hasn't. I actually think he's a good looking man(but then I'm one of the older ones here). M Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 7:09 AM My question about her is -- how can a beautiful woman like her marryTHAT guy?> > > > From: autismlink <cindy@>> > Subject: McCain mentioned autism.....> > To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com> > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:37 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's> > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip> > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm > impressed> > that he even mentioned it.> > > > Thoughts? Comments?> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 But HOW do they matter? Would he extend them health insurance if they didn't have any? Would he make sure this health insurance wouldn't deny coverage for speech therapy because their child's issues are " mental illness " or " developmental? " I think we have to think beyond the " I'm one of you " and " I care " platitudes and who mentioned autism in their speeches, and look at how their platforms really make a difference. R > > > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm > impressed > > > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I know that I read an article that McCain is very good friends with Don Imus. Wasn’t it the Don Imus show where he made mention of the autism epidemic for the first time? He is also on friendly terms with Joe Liberman. He has also publicly stated that autism and environmental causes need to be addressed. So, my thinking is that McCain is definitely in the right company to try to get some real improvements in the autism community. Shake up the CDC and the FDA for starters. There’s a lot of self-dealing and corruption in those two agencies to keep him busy for the first term. Just my 2 cents. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 actually McCain's commitment to autism goes back much further than that. He fought for us on the congressional floor way back in 2002 to get that "Lilly protection rider" out of the homeland security act. Verbally he is much more commited now. M Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:47 AM I know that I read an article that McCain is very good friends with Don Imus. Wasn¢t it the Don Imus show where he made mention of the autism epidemic for the first time? He is also on friendly terms with Joe Liberman. He has also publicly stated that autism and environmental causes need to be addressed. So, my thinking is that McCain is definitely in the right company to try to get some real improvements in the autism community. Shake up the CDC and the FDA for starters. There¢s a lot of self-dealing and corruption in those two agencies to keep him busy for the first term. Just my 2 cents. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 They can stick Palin on the CDC, NIH and FDA. Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:47 AM I know that I read an article that McCain is very good friends with Don Imus. Wasn¢t it the Don Imus show where he made mention of the autism epidemic for the first time? He is also on friendly terms with Joe Liberman. He has also publicly stated that autism and environmental causes need to be addressed. So, my thinking is that McCain is definitely in the right company to try to get some real improvements in the autism community. Shake up the CDC and the FDA for starters. There¢s a lot of self-dealing and corruption in those two agencies to keep him busy for the first term. Just my 2 cents. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Can the government make health insurance pay for autism related care? If you are talking about a government run health insurance - universal healthcare - that would be a nightmare. Your child might get some services when he/she is 30 years old. Government run programs are not known for running efficiently. Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:44 AM But HOW do they matter? Would he extend them health insurance if they didn't have any? Would he make sure this health insurance wouldn't deny coverage for speech therapy because their child's issues are "mental illness" or "developmental? " I think we have to think beyond the "I'm one of you" and "I care" platitudes and who mentioned autism in their speeches, and look at how their platforms really make a difference. R> > > >> > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's> > > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip> > > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm> impressed> > > > that he even mentioned it.> > > > > > > > Thoughts? Comments?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I'm talking about fighting to make autism a medical condition so that it is covered like every other medical condition. > > > > > > > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said > he's > > > > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just > lip > > > > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm > > impressed > > > > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I keep going back to McCain's comments about Pharma. I know we've brought it up here before. During one of the republican debates, Romney and he went at it. Romney said scolded McCain telling him not to " portray pharma like they are the evil bad guy " (something like that) and McCain said " but they are! " McCain has talked about how Pharma is causing alot of the problems we are seeing with health care. > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > that he even mentioned it. > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Exactly! The president doesn't run the country. > > I know that my experience is limited in little ol' Pennsylvania, but > the wheeling and dealing that goes on behind closed doors is amazing. > You wouldn't believe it. (Well, you guys probably WOULD.) > > Even those candidates with the best intentions probably can't get > anything done with all of the special interest groups. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 It also comes down to congress and the senate. Everything has to get approval and we all know how well on current congress is doing. Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....To: EOHarm Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:01 AM Exactly! The president doesn't run the country.>> I know that my experience is limited in little ol' Pennsylvania, but> the wheeling and dealing that goes on behind closed doors is amazing.> You wouldn't believe it. (Well, you guys probably WOULD.)> > Even those candidates with the best intentions probably can't get> anything done with all of the special interest groups.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Did you guys know that & McCain adopted a special needs child from Bangladesh? (Well, cleft palate, but still shows a lot of compassion.) I just heard that. Very interesting. > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 dont forget.. McCain removed the lilly rider that bill frist threw on the last minute... he has an adopted special needs child.. his running mate is a mom to a newborn with down's... he has made comments against big pharma... yes.. it is all very interesting... Lia Re: McCain mentioned autism..... Did you guys know that & McCain adopted a special needs child from Bangladesh? (Well, cleft palate, but still shows a lot of compassion.) I just heard that. Very interesting. > > > > In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's > > fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip > > service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed > > that he even mentioned it. > > > > Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I recently attended a townhall style meeting led by Carly Fiorina. The purpose of this meeting was to bring questions, concerns and pressing issues together, to be presented back to McCain. When I was given the floor, I reiterated the Senator's " words " with Mitt Romney regarding Big Pharma. I also recalled a previous townhall meeting at which he acknowledged a possible link between vaccines and autism. I went on to briefly tell my grandson's story, including his reaction to a flu shot, his subsequent poor health and his regression into autism. I talked about biomedical treatments restoring his physical health and helping him to recover from some of the neurological damage. I also conveyed the need to clean up our vaccines and make them SAFE, not just safer. I brought up the fact that the Government has to stop mandating every vaccine that comes along and give the parents the right to choose which, IF ANY vaccines will be given to their children. I asked her to remind him of the fact that the CDC has never met a vaccine that it doesn't like, and that such " protective " agencies need to be closely monitored. I also mentioned that we have the most highly vaccinated children in the world, yet we have the highest number of chronically ill and learning disabled children. I mentioned this group (among a few others), and that we have WELL over 2000 members... who are capable of reaching millions. Ms. Fiorina took my comments along with all others very seriously. The entire meeting was videotaped and was to be reviewed by McCain. She also confirmed that indeed, McCain believes that vaccines can cause adverse reactions. She said that he also believes those men and women in the military, who feel that they have been adversley affected by vaccines, as well. He is very aware of the autism epidemic in this country and it's need to be addressed. Of course, the time to speak was limited, but I left there with a more positive feeling than when I arrived. FWIW, I am confident that this got back to Sen. McCain. There were MANY more issues that were brought up by various individuals that evening, including a Representitive from Autism Speaks. This person spoke prior to me, asking for more recognition of autism, insurance, funding, etc. The coincidental timing couldn't have been more perfect. My belief is that it would be political suicide if McCain came out with a speech tomorrow, stating that Autism is caused by vaccines and that we need to stop vaccinating our children until we know more. But as others have posted here, we need to continue to hound our Canidates on both sides of the ticket, to let them know that we WILL not shut up and that we demand answers, one way or another. I have no clue yet how the influences behind McCain, feel about vaccines. worked with sick children in India and other poor Countries with unsanitary conditions. My guess is that she may think, or at least have thought at one time, differently. I don't know. She is also a woman who is in tune with humanity and can recognize the potential dangers of our present vaccine program. She comes from a military family and like Gov. Palin, has sons who could be at risk for serious vaccine reactions. These are my thoughts and my comments... At this point, I think we may be moving in the right direction. The message is out there. We have a heck of a lot of voices, many coming from this group alone. Whoever our next President and VP will be, they need to know that we are right on their heels and we won't stop stepping on them until we see results. There is no doubt in my mind that our precious National Vaccine program is here to stay. No President will ever have the power to abolish it. But the epidemics of autism, chronic illnesses and learning disabilities can't be ignored. Parents who KNOW, even and those who FEAR that there is a causal relationship to vaccines and ASD, need to have their choice to withhold or control vaccinations, respected. We have quite a few political activists on this group, in spite of the precious little time that autism allows. But for every person who sends off an e-mail or makes a phone call, if one more person would take a few minutes to do the same, we can make even MORE of an impact on our Candidates. I will continue to do whatever I can to let each Candidate know just how important these issues are to the future of our Country. The race is neck and neck right now and I find this to be an exciting ride. In two months, one of these men will be the new President of the United States. But I want them both to know that 1 in 150 children in this Country will neve be able to dream that same dream... and my question is, " What are you going to do about it? " -Trish " In McCain's speech tonight -- he mentioned autism! He said he's fighting for families with special needs kids. Probably just lip service, and maybe something I just want to hear....but I'm impressed that he even mentioned it. Thoughts? Comments? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 But you have to admit they are completely mismatched in the looks dept. > > > > > > From: lisa_sigismondi <lisa_sigismondi@> > > > Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism..... > > > To: EOHarm > > > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and worked for poor migrant children with special needs when she > > > was younger.� I think we have a better chance for getting > something > > > done for our kids with the mccain/palin ticket.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I've seen photos of the both of them when they were younger and first married. He was very dashing. In his outter Senate office in DC, the walls are covered with family photos. Bobbie Manning mentioned to me how rare that is. She has seen the inside of many a congressman's office. She said she's never run across that. The office is usually full of photos of the senator (or representaive) and other members of congress, elitists, hollywood personalities, etc. She said they are always self-serving photos of "important" people with the congressperson. She said it spoke highly of his character. My favorite photo in his office is of Senator McCain at a parade in Arizona (can't recall the town at the moment - I think maybe Flagstaff). He's standing watching the parade with his infant son in a stroller. The Senator has jeans on. In the back pocket, his son's baby bottle. Just a guy enjoying the day with his son. Lin > > > > > > From: lisa_sigismondi <lisa_sigismondi@>> > > Subject: Re: McCain mentioned autism.....> > > To: EOHarm > > > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:03 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and worked for poor migrant children with special needs when she > > > was younger. I think we have a better chance for getting > something > > > done for our kids with the mccain/palin ticket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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