Husband insisting on meningitis vaccine

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My husband has now convinced my 18 year old son that he should take this shot

before

leaving for college. I am so upset and don't know what to do. It is not

required at our

school.

Unfortunately my husband is uninformed and still believes the doctors are

looking out for

our kids and know what's best for them.

Please hope and pray that he has a change of heart and mind. Any advice??

thanks, barb

[Guest guest]

In my family I am the one that has done all the research so when

issues

regarding my son's health such as flu shot/discipline and nutrition

become a point of controversy I demand to hear his side with all due

respect. His side is just as important to me.

I know a flu shot did slip through as he did not know.

In your situation I would listen to his reasoning and with research

in

reach (only mentioned if he wanted to look) I would humbley inform

him

of the facts. I would even suggest that you know you will both come

to

an agreement as long as he looks at the research first before the

subject is approached again. I would sress your fears of what could

happen and why. Then he can weigh his concerns with yours and what

may

become new concerns for himself through research (My husband hates

research and loves sci-fi, but trusts me).

Since you are asking for help I imagine it won't be that easy. I

always

show compromise regardless of issues which has sometimes helped me

with

my son. Sometimes I wonder if he is taking it out on me the

frustration of dealing with my son (blames me) so at times I do feel

blame, but I try not to ruin dialogue by becoming defensive and

throwing blame his way. Instead through facts I try to gain his

respect and support.

This is a personal thing and there are different ways of handling all

these issues. My simple mindedness (o: and honest need to do the

right

thing for the one that is sick in our family helps my side I

beleive.

And yes often I win, but he deserves all the credit (open-minded).

(o: These

arguments are trying, but in the end there is a new mutual respect.

All my best to you and your family. I know there is an extra level

of

complication to every issue (even small like meal time) regarding my

son.

Mia

>

> Unfortunately my husband is uninformed and still believes the

doctors are looking out for

> our kids and know what's best for them.

>

> Please hope and pray that he has a change of heart and mind. Any

advice?? thanks, barb

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your thoughts.

My husband really has no research and has not looked at mine. The university

used the

scare tactic with the parents at orientation and is offering the shots for free.

What is upsetting is that my younger son is already vaccine damaged and I don't

want

more problems with my older son. thanks, barb

I will try the approach of sharing hard facts.

[Guest guest]

We just went through this too with our oldest who has not been

vaccinated since age four. It's hard also to make that choice, but

he is a healthy kid and we told him that he needs to keep his immune

system in check.

So he said he'd drink healthy beer. Just kidding. But it is a

concern and here in MI we've had some cases so it hits the news and

folks panic.

Cg

>

>

> Thank you for your thoughts.

>

> My husband really has no research and has not looked at mine. The

university used the

> scare tactic with the parents at orientation and is offering the

shots for free.

>

> What is upsetting is that my younger son is already vaccine damaged

and I don't want

> more problems with my older son. thanks, barb

>

> I will try the approach of sharing hard facts.

>

[Guest guest]

How sad,

I often wonder if the fact that these kid were fully vaxed predisposes them to get a severe form of meningitis. I wonder what the rates of meningitis is in vaxed vs unvaxed populations.

Ange

Re: Husband insisting on meningitis vaccineTo: EOHarm Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 10:25 AM

In my family I am the one that has done all the research so when issues regarding my son's health such as flu shot/discipline and nutrition become a point of controversy I demand to hear his side with all due respect. His side is just as important to me.I know a flu shot did slip through as he did not know.In your situation I would listen to his reasoning and with research in reach (only mentioned if he wanted to look) I would humbley inform him of the facts. I would even suggest that you know you will both come to an agreement as long as he looks at the research first before the subject is approached again. I would sress your fears of what could happen and why. Then he can weigh his concerns with yours and what may become new concerns for himself through research (My husband hates research and loves sci-fi, but trusts me). Since you are asking for help I imagine it won't be that easy. I always show compromise regardless of issues which has sometimes helped me with my son. Sometimes I wonder if he is taking it out on me the frustration of dealing with my son (blames me) so at times I do feel blame, but I try not to ruin dialogue by becoming defensive and throwing blame his way. Instead through facts I try to gain his respect and support.This is a personal thing and there are different ways of handling all these issues. My simple mindedness (o: and honest need to do the right thing for the one that is sick in our family helps my side I beleive. And yes often I win, but he deserves all the credit (open-minded) . (o: These arguments are trying, but in the end there is a new mutual respect. All my best to you and your family. I know there is an extra level of complication to every issue (even small like meal time) regarding my son.Mia >> Hi all,> > My husband has now convinced my 18 year old son that he should take this shot before > leaving for college. I am so upset and don't know what to do. It is not required at our > school.> > Unfortunately my husband is uninformed and still believes the doctors are looking out for > our kids and know what's best for them.> > Please hope and pray that he has a change of heart and mind. Any advice?? thanks, barb>

[Guest guest]

At 12:18 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>My husband has now convinced my 18 year old son that he should take

>this shot before

>leaving for college. I am so upset and don't know what to do. It is

>not required at our

>school.

>

>Unfortunately my husband is uninformed and still believes the

>doctors are looking out for

>our kids and know what's best for them.

>

>Please hope and pray that he has a change of heart and mind. Any

>advice?? thanks, barb

Well, could ask husband to sign a form that he is aware of the

dangers of the meningitis vaccine - print out the vaccine package

insert and a few other articles. I will send you some info personally.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses

[Guest guest]

Meningococcal Meningitis on Campus

The vaccines available only covers 4 strains they say - A, C, Y & W-135

The concern is that meningitis is seen in college students and blamed

on one of the above or other strains.

I would suggest that the bacteria may not 'cause' the disease, but

the situation of the student and the lifestyle and health of the

student is the issue

Students have already gotten a lot of vaccines pre-admission

Their immune systems are suppressed and injured due to this

Students are under a lot of stress

Students live in a crowded environment

Students often are not eating healthfully whether eating dorm food or

on their own

Drug & alcohol use among college students

Many issues here and all is a bit confusing

To blame a certain bacteria does not get at the root of why they are

susceptible, if indeed the bacteria causes anything.

Or are they ill and the bacteria is only present doing a job.

Sheri

http://www.meningitis-trust.org/disease_info/meningococcal_meningitis.php?catego\

ry=19 & sub=60

The bacteria are very common and live naturally in the back of the

nose and throat, or the upper respiratory tract. People of any age

can carry the bacteria for days, weeks or months without becoming

ill. In fact, being a carrier helps to boost natural immunity. At any

one time, around 10 to 25 per cent of the population are carriers of

meningococcal bacteria. Only rarely do the bacteria overcome the

body's defences and cause meningitis.

[Guest guest]

exactly and more - I just sent.

Sheri

At 02:04 PM 7/28/2008, you wrote:

How sad,

I often wonder if the fact that these kid

were fully vaxed predisposes them to get a severe form of

meningitis. I wonder what the rates of meningitis is in vaxed vs

unvaxed populations.

Ange

[Guest guest]

At 02:51 AM 7/28/2008, you wrote:

>My son's girlfriend died of meningitis when they were seniors in high school.

>He will never forget her. I will never forget when we got that

>call. And I will never forget what he went through the year of her

>death. To see my son, dressed in a tuxedo, going to the cemetary

>with flowers on prom night, or dressed in his cap and gown on

>graduation day, bringing balloons to her grave site......I can't say

>more than that.

There may be much more to this - just because someone dies does not

mean a vaccine works or is safe

I understand the fear, but that is what it is.

Vaccines do NOT give immunity

>

>This is one vaccine where I could and would never pass judgement.

There is a lot to pass judgment on.

>

>My son got the shot and didn't tell me until months later. He had

>no reaction.

And he is fortuante or the reaction may not show up till

later.........the effects.

>He told me he was full of anxiety from the fear that it would happen

>to him, so he got the shot. <sigh> He was over 18 so he did not

>need my consent.

>

>Personal issue here. That disease took away a beautiful young woman

>that we loved deeply.

Yes, and again because she died does not mean the vaccine works or is safe.

Sheri