Re: A question to my American sisters and brothers

July 19, 2008

>

>Now I can understand the position of people like " for Profit "

>Offit , who has a vested interest to push vaccine , but how about

>the other doctors,

>

>Then I remember that a great many kids get vaccinated at the

>doctor's office in the US.

>

>My question to my American sisters and brothers , do American

>doctors get paid kickback from the government and the big Pharma

>like what occurs in Great Britain??

No, they do not get a direct kickback

But who would go in for wellchild visits where they make their money

if people didn't think vaccines were necessary

These visits and the vaccines and the subsequent sick visits after

vaccine injury starts are why a pediatrician even exists

>As anybody ever investigated this matters about kickback being given

>to doctors in the US ??

There are always the free goodies drug reps give, free trips, etc.

When I worked for Peds in the mid 70's, their day started with a

different drug rep every 15 minutes for the first hour of the day, at least.

Don't know what it is now. I know drug reps bring in huge lunches

and more to the offices

>This sound perverse, but when you think about, it might explain the

>high cost of vaccine, likes the HPV gardasil!!!

>

>Just think about it , doctor get paid by parents or there insurance

>company , then gets a commission or a " Big discount " every time he

>vaccinates a child. this would represent over 100% in profit

>windfall for doctors.

No, no commission

>I believe it is a good question, also it would explain some pretty

>bad behaviour.

It is mostly brainwashing and no time or desire to do research on their own.

Peds are very busy with all the vaccine-induced illnesses. I worked

for 4 peds - one of the busiest offices in the city where I lived -

they had stacks of journals they hadn't read or were trying to read..

Pediatrics is one of the lower paying MD professions - or it was

then. If you wanted to make a lot of money you didn't become a pediatrician.

It seems like many peds now are a different breed (they were usually

gentle in the past). And there is so much brainwashing and ego

involved. How could you admit what you had done/were doing and sleep

at night? Some are able to and change and make a difference, but not most.

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

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July 19, 2008

Pierre:

Most " regular " physicians do not receive money from Pharma. What they receive is

a controlled and manipulated education, and a very controlled exposure to

educational materials. No one markets the articles that have information that

conflicts with Pharma's agenda.

One the other hand, they are always being marketed by Pharma.

Now, having said that, there are physicians who are recruited by Pharma, just

like the Nazi's recruited Jews to by camp guards. These physicians receive

unrestricted grants to do with what they want, but are expected to be very vocal

proponents for Pharma in one way or another.

Pharma also helps control academic medicine by providing large amounts of

funding and then they establish beach heads in the various academic departments,

such as the unholy alliance the Vaccine Action Coalition has in many academic

Pediatric departments where they actually pay the salary of a staff member so

they can push the propaganda wherever and whenever.

KP Stoller, MD

President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc

Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico

www.hbotnm.com

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A point of discussion

For sometime now, I have been reading about the different responses

an opinion coming from different doctors associated to American

paediatric milieu.

Sometimes these responses would come up in local newspaper, others

time you would in TV or print media or as seen recently, truly very

well organize efforts by senior members of this medical milieu

associated to children and social health.

What is interesting, when I started reading and listening, to these

different comments and opinion, from this milieu, I started to

notice that the message was always the same, like if everybody was

playing from the same playbook.

The message is always playing along the same theme:

- Vaccination is good for kids

- Before vaccination, kids would die by the 100K, 250K, 500K

etc etc ( I kind of notice that this number keep changing)

- If parents stop vaccination, there would be an epidemic of

dying children.

- They will mention a epidemic of measles that occurred in

certain area ( They always seem to forget that that these events

consisted of teenagers or young adult that had been vaccinated with

the MMR vaccine

- That parent of autistic children are a real nutty bunch

- That Dr.Wakefield is a bad doctor and that he lost his

licenses to practice, that why he came to the America (which is

not correct)

- That numerous studies demonstrated studies have demonstrated

that there was correlation between Autism and Vaccine (Even though

all of these studies have now been found to be flawed or found to be

bogus

What bothered me, is that after reading these different articles,

that the message was just a little to consistent, like somebody was

manipulating the message.

But more confounding, is how these different doctors can maintain

this position or opinion with the growing body of scientific

evidence that is clearly showing a strong correlation between

vaccine and autism. " I just not make any sense "

But then I remember the incident that occurred in Great Britain,

where it was discovered that a great numbers of doctors and

paediatrician where receiving " Monetary kickback " from the

government and the vaccine pharmaceutical Co.

In this article, it mention that one doctor receive over 150,000 US$

for being such a great vaccinator.

Now I can understand the position of people like " for Profit "

Offit , who has a vested interest to push vaccine , but how about

the other doctors,

Then I remember that a great many kids get vaccinated at the

doctor's office in the US.

My question to my American sisters and brothers , do American

doctors get paid kickback from the government and the big Pharma

like what occurs in Great Britain??

As anybody ever investigated this matters about kickback being given

to doctors in the US ??

This sound perverse, but when you think about, it might explain the

high cost of vaccine, likes the HPV gardasil!!!

Just think about it , doctor get paid by parents or there insurance

company , then gets a commission or a " Big discount " every time he

vaccinates a child. this would represent over 100% in profit

windfall for doctors.

I believe it is a good question, also it would explain some pretty

bad behaviour.

I leave you with question

Pierre

Montreal , Canada

July 19, 2008

They're all singing from the same sheet of music, and that sheet was

composed by the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics.

>

> A point of discussion

>

> For sometime now, I have been reading about the different responses

> an opinion coming from different doctors associated to American

> paediatric milieu.

>

> Sometimes these responses would come up in local newspaper, others

> time you would in TV or print media or as seen recently, truly very

> well organize efforts by senior members of this medical milieu

> associated to children and social health.

>

> What is interesting, when I started reading and listening, to these

> different comments and opinion, from this milieu, I started to

> notice that the message was always the same, like if everybody was

> playing from the same playbook.

>

> The message is always playing along the same theme:

>

> - Vaccination is good for kids

> - Before vaccination, kids would die by the 100K, 250K, 500K

> etc etc ( I kind of notice that this number keep changing)

> - If parents stop vaccination, there would be an epidemic of

> dying children.

> - They will mention a epidemic of measles that occurred in

> certain area ( They always seem to forget that that these events

> consisted of teenagers or young adult that had been vaccinated

with

> the MMR vaccine

> - That parent of autistic children are a real nutty bunch

> - That Dr.Wakefield is a bad doctor and that he lost his

> licenses to practice, that why he came to the America (which is

> not correct)

> - That numerous studies demonstrated studies have demonstrated

> that there was correlation between Autism and Vaccine (Even though

> all of these studies have now been found to be flawed or found to

be

> bogus

> What bothered me, is that after reading these different articles,

> that the message was just a little to consistent, like somebody was

> manipulating the message.

>

> But more confounding, is how these different doctors can maintain

> this position or opinion with the growing body of scientific

> evidence that is clearly showing a strong correlation between

> vaccine and autism. " I just not make any sense "

>

> But then I remember the incident that occurred in Great Britain,

> where it was discovered that a great numbers of doctors and

> paediatrician where receiving " Monetary kickback " from the

> government and the vaccine pharmaceutical Co.

>

> In this article, it mention that one doctor receive over 150,000

US$

> for being such a great vaccinator.

>

> Now I can understand the position of people like " for Profit "

> Offit , who has a vested interest to push vaccine , but how about

> the other doctors,

>

> Then I remember that a great many kids get vaccinated at the

> doctor's office in the US.

>

> My question to my American sisters and brothers , do American

> doctors get paid kickback from the government and the big Pharma

> like what occurs in Great Britain??

>

> As anybody ever investigated this matters about kickback being

given

> to doctors in the US ??

>

> This sound perverse, but when you think about, it might explain the

> high cost of vaccine, likes the HPV gardasil!!!

>

> Just think about it , doctor get paid by parents or there insurance

> company , then gets a commission or a " Big discount " every time he

> vaccinates a child. this would represent over 100% in profit

> windfall for doctors.

> I believe it is a good question, also it would explain some pretty

> bad behaviour.

>

> I leave you with question

>

> Pierre

> Montreal , Canada

>

July 19, 2008

As a rule, the best and the brightest did not go into pediatric medicine.

I have long been off the route of drug reps, and the vaccine reps have a black

pin on the map where my office is, but it is true that in the old days free

lunches and goodies where showered upon pediatricians.

They were turned into vaccine pushers and lived off the regular well-checks and

then of course the vaccines made the kids very sick...multiple ear infections,

asthma, etc. and everyone was happy $$$.

KP Stoller, MD

President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc

Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico

www.hbotnm.com

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