Re: Wrong Planet~ Carley and Autism Speaks: The Collaboration Thickens

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> I was cleaning out some favorites in my computer at work and came

across Wrong Planet and an interesting response to a post on a blog

from Carley from GRASP which is a support group for AS adults

from the east coast with sister chapters in other areas and very

successful.

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> It was over a letter or statement he sent out to the public in

support of an Autism Speaks Board member. I posted the letter on

ASPIRES. Apparently someone from Autism Planet posted a piece for

their blog with a different opinion and they posted it on their home

page with PRIDE.

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> finally responds and I love his message. Some folks with

AS and you can include anyone else in this category NS and others are

so blinded by depression, anxiety, etc., they cannot convey their

thoughts or opinions in a way that is acceptable in our society.

These are my words and not his but the gist I got for his post? Our

brains are wired differently and you may get another message??

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> There is a difference in advocating for a cause or point and pure

hate speech for the other side. When your words are pure hate for

the other side, NO ONE hears YOUR message they just get angry and

attack or IGNORE YOU. We see it on this board and if life every day.

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> It is about growing and moving FF in your life and why ASPIRES was

started and all about. ASPIRES has been lucky to have many member

who have climbed the mountain and many starting their journey. It is

different when someone calls someone with AS a spade than someone

with NS. His response reminded me of Meyer's aka GRUMPY and a

past co-founder of ASPIRES with AS. has no tolerance for bad

behavior or anyone with NS that puts up with it as many old timers

will remember. <Wink> He is a tireless advocate for adults with AS

but has zero tolerance for anyone that thinks their label gives them

the right to abuse others whether they realize they are doing it or

not.

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> The original post and his response: http://www.wrongplanet.net/

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Hi ,

They are very wise words from Meyers and I agree totally with

his view. I'm astounded by the rhetoric some ASD people deliver in

response to others complaining about their offesive comments. Their

defense is usually they are talking in the non personal, they are

attacking the comment. Lmao, what a loud of 'BS' roffle excuse for

bad behaviour. Defenitely instances where ASD folke appear blunt and

harsh in comment with no intent to offend or injure.

I have locked horns with a few of these personalities on other autism

sites when they are blatantly being offensive and mean to non ASD

people. To my horror these same people will bully other ASD folke

who are vulnerable and emotional. Anyone who believes ASD and Non

ASD folke personalities are vastly different needs to witness the

discussions on the autism spectrum website forums.

Cheers,

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Good morning ,

I've always thought Carley was one of the more

thoughtful, articulate members of " our " community. I feel his

viewpoints are informed and balanced. I don't know why he doesn't

come to mind more often when someone I know asks me what good stuff

is out there on the 'net. Well, I'll remember now. That response was

well worth the re-read. He said himself he didn't want to write that

letter, and despite its necessarily powerful wording, I still feel he

was very civil in his approach. I wouldn't have been *nearly* as

restrained! I wouldn't so much compare him to Meyer ...*I'm*

probably more like Meyer ... comes out with both fists

flying .... but anyway, how is these days? Miss him!

- Helen, 53, self-dx'd AS, dx'd ADD