Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hi everyone, I havent been on for a while but I am so desperate for some advice from someone...One of you mentioned that my yawning sensation could be anxiety...even though I think I am 100% fine you could be right...I have this terrible air hunger and cant seem to get enough breath which of course makes me want to yawn or take a deep breath, which I cant even seem to do that now...After about 2 hours sleep I wake and have to sit up and try to get a huge sigh in. I know if I go to the drs he will just say that I have had tests in the past for my lungs etc and everything is fine so it must be my nerves, so why should I even bother to go to him? I just thought one of you may suffer or have suffered the same thing...I read a book about hyperventilation syndrome and it describes me to a tee so maybe somewhere deep down I am anxious...does that sound like I am screwed up hehehehe....anyway any advice would surely help me right now as I am so scared that my lungs are just going to give in on me...hugs Lee Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Lee--i feel for you as i often think i'm not getting enough air--dont yawn though---i suggest you have your lung function checked again---if its ok then you can go with the anxiety theory---babies yawn heaps when they are oxygen deprived--you do need to get a medical check---i check my inspired volume heaps with an old spirometre --just to know that i AM getting enough air for th moment---you could check your peak flow if you have the gadget--some of us need regular reassurance that our lungs are still giving us enough air---I'm one----it certainly could be anxiety but i would be checking all other avenues first---a relaxation or medtiation tape may help with it if its the latter---keep us posted on how youre going---cheers Del air hunger help Hi everyone, I havent been on for a while but I am so desperate for some advice from someone...One of you mentioned that my yawning sensation could be anxiety...even though I think I am 100% fine you could be right...I have this terrible air hunger and cant seem to get enough breath which of course makes me want to yawn or take a deep breath, which I cant even seem to do that now...After about 2 hours sleep I wake and have to sit up and try to get a huge sigh in. I know if I go to the drs he will just say that I have had tests in the past for my lungs etc and everything is fine so it must be my nerves, so why should I even bother to go to him? I just thought one of you may suffer or have suffered the same thing...I read a book about hyperventilation syndrome and it describes me to a tee so maybe somewhere deep down I am anxious...does that sound like I am screwed up hehehehe....anyway any advice would surely help me right now as I am so scared that my lungs are just going to give in on me...hugs Lee Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Hi Lee Suggest you get a book by Professor Buteyko. His breathing methods should be of help to you. It's all to do with the balance of carbon dioxide in the lungs. He gives some very good excercises for teaching yourself to breathe. Since reading this book I realise how badly I breathe. When I'm feeling better I'm going to do a course on Buteyko breathing. In the meantime have you tried the old paper bag trick where you breathe into a brown bag for a few minutes. Very good for hyperventilation. It's awful when you can't breathe properly affects your whole being doesn't it. Hope you get over this June > Hi everyone, I havent been on for a while but I am so desperate for > some advice from someone...One of you mentioned that my yawning > sensation could be anxiety...even though I think I am 100% fine you > could be right...I have this terrible air hunger and cant seem to get > enough breath which of course makes me want to yawn or take a deep > breath, which I cant even seem to do that now...After about 2 hours > sleep I wake and have to sit up and try to get a huge sigh in. I know > if I go to the drs he will just say that I have had tests in the past > for my lungs etc and everything is fine so it must be my nerves, so > why should I even bother to go to him? I just thought one of you may > suffer or have suffered the same thing...I read a book about > hyperventilation syndrome and it describes me to a tee so maybe > somewhere deep down I am anxious...does that sound like I am screwed > up hehehehe....anyway any advice would surely help me right now as I > am so scared that my lungs are just going to give in on me...hugs Lee > > > Find local movi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Not everyone is successful with the Buteyko system. In fact a lot of people drop out of his classes because of it. The Asthma Foundation in Australia wouldn’t even recognise it because of that, but that was a few years ago. I’m no longer a member, so I don’t know how it sits with them now. Cheryl ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cheryl , Award Winning Australian Author http://www.cheryl-wright.com http://www.savingemma.com http://www.writer2writer.com Saving Emma - #9 Best Seller February 2005 http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com -----Original Message----- From: June Fraser Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 4:49 PM To: bronchiectasis Subject: Re: air hunger help Hi Lee Suggest you get a book by Professor Buteyko. His breathing methods should be of help to you. It's all to do with the balance of carbon dioxide in the lungs. He gives some very good excercises for teaching yourself to breathe. Since reading this book I realise how badly I breathe. When I'm feeling better I'm going to do a course on Buteyko breathing. In the meantime have you tried the old paper bag trick where you breathe into a brown bag for a few minutes. Very good for hyperventilation. It's awful when you can't breathe properly affects your whole being doesn't it. Hope you get over this June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Lee, I’ve never had this experience, so don’t know how to help. I have had the deep breathing thing – right at the start of, or in the middle of, an infection. Are you sure you don’t have an infection of some sort? I would be going to the doctor, despite your thoughts to the contrary. At least that way you can eliminate infection. And seriously, I wouldn’t put up with any doctor whose thoughts are always on everything being nerves. Been there, done that, sacked that doctor! As you can see, I don’t suffer fools easily. I just get rid of them. lolololol I really hope you go and get some assistance with this. And soon. Apart from anything else, the worry can make it worse. Cheryl ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cheryl , Award Winning Australian Author http://www.cheryl-wright.com http://www.savingemma.com http://www.writer2writer.com Saving Emma - #9 Best Seller February 2005 http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com -----Original Message----- From: Lee Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 2:37 PM To: bronchiectasis Subject: air hunger help Hi everyone, I havent been on for a while but I am so desperate for some advice from someone...One of you mentioned that my yawning sensation could be anxiety...even though I think I am 100% fine you could be right...I have this terrible air hunger and cant seem to get enough breath which of course makes me want to yawn or take a deep breath, which I cant even seem to do that now...After about 2 hours sleep I wake and have to sit up and try to get a huge sigh in. I know if I go to the drs he will just say that I have had tests in the past for my lungs etc and everything is fine so it must be my nerves, so why should I even bother to go to him? I just thought one of you may suffer or have suffered the same thing...I read a book about hyperventilation syndrome and it describes me to a tee so maybe somewhere deep down I am anxious...does that sound like I am screwed up hehehehe....anyway any advice would surely help me right now as I am so scared that my lungs are just going to give in on me...hugs Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 In the meantime have you tried the old paper bag trick where you breathe into a brown bag for a few minutes. Very good for hyperventilation. Lee, After my brother died suddenly at age 23 and I had to take care of the funeral, plan a wedding and graduate from college within six months, I had attacks of hyperventilation. The doctor suggested that I use a small paper bag to breath into and that really helped. I hope this helps you too. Anxiety can do strange things. Norma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Lee, just looked up my Butekyo book, the principal is we take too much air in at each breath, especially if you mouth breathe like I do. He says " sometimes your body may play tricks and convince you to breathe more by yawning, sighing or sniffing. When you feel this, for example during a yawn, swallow immediately. Then breathe shallow breaths through the nose " I can tell you these exercises are not easy but his theories certainly sound feasible and he has a huge worldwide following so there must be something in it. That said you should see a doctor to rule out an infection, Hope you can overcome this Love June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Hi Norma, hehehe there are some days when I would need to permanently tape it to my face...oooh what a sight that would be.....Hugs Leenor236@... wrote: In the meantime have you tried the old paper bag trick where you breathe into a brown bag for a few minutes. Very good for hyperventilation. Lee, After my brother died suddenly at age 23 and I had to take care of the funeral, plan a wedding and graduate from college within six months, I had attacks of hyperventilation. The doctor suggested that I use a small paper bag to breath into and that really helped. I hope this helps you too. Anxiety can do strange things. Norma Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Hi June, thanks for the info...I will look for the book...sometimes there is a course in our town so I will try and get a booking next time they are in our town, usually twice a year...I do have a book called hyperventilation syndrome but there is an update apparently which she mentions the buteyko method so yes there must be something in it.....will however keep swallowing to avoid the yawns....hugs LeeJune Fraser wrote: Lee, just looked up my Butekyo book, the principal is we take too much air in at each breath, especially if you mouth breathe like I do. He says "sometimes your body may play tricks and convince you to breathe more by yawning, sighing or sniffing. When you feel this, for example during a yawn, swallow immediately. Then breathe shallow breaths through the nose"I can tell you these exercises are not easy but his theories certainly sound feasible and he has a huge worldwide following so there must be something in it.That said you should see a doctor to rule out an infection,Hope you can overcome thisLove June Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Hi Lee, just a quick email to let you know that it was me, I think that mentioned anxiety, and hyperventilation. They go hand in hand especially with asthmatics. You really have to learn to take in long slow breaths and let out the same way. Same a diaphram breathing. Have you tried sleeping to relaxation music when you go to bed, even if you need to leave it on softly all night. That is how I actually got through the months I was bedridden for almost 4 months. I was so anxious, so desperate for air, but couldn,t concerntrate on my breathing techniques. I had plenty of discs and tapes, and learnt to slow down before going to bed, then I actually had to learn to do the breathing , to consciously listen to the tapes and discs, It did work, it actually helped me no end with the asthma. Wind, wind instruments, lutes, waves, birds etc, but the best was Tai O lin,( I think thats who they were, japanese lutes. Wonderful for relaxation( japanese music, instruments). Must go. Keep well and will be back here tomorrow, . Today, only home for 1/2 hour. Hugs, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hi Sandy, yep got heaps of tapes with relation music and also meditation tapes...Did 4 years tai chi and also taught it so thats not the problem....I always do diaphram breathing and always through my nose...Last night I actually slept good, first time for ages so it was lovely....hey hope you are doing alot better too....hugs to you...Lee..xxxsandy taylor wrote: Hi Lee, just a quick email to let you know that it was me, I think that mentioned anxiety, and hyperventilation.They go hand in hand especially with asthmatics.You really have to learn to take in long slow breaths and let out the same way.Same a diaphram breathing.Have you tried sleeping to relaxation music when you go to bed, even if you need to leave it on softly all night.That is how I actually got through the months I was bedridden for almost 4 months.I was so anxious, so desperate for air, but couldn,t concerntrate on my breathing techniques.I had plenty of discs and tapes, and learnt to slow down before going to bed, then I actually had to learn to do the breathing , to consciously listen to the tapes and discs,It did work, it actually helped me no end with the asthma.Wind, wind instruments, lutes, waves, birds etc, but the best was Tai O lin,( I think thats who they were, japanese lutes.Wonderful for relaxation( japanese music, instruments).Must go. Keep well and will be back here tomorrow, .Today, only home for 1/2 hour.Hugs,Sandy Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi again Cheryl, I have been through what Lee is going through, years ago, and yes was told after months of tests it was all in the mind, as per everything,( docs say) However, I had a great physiotherapist,( should have been a doctor truly) fantastic fellow. He said he was 100% sure it was 3 things, breathing incorrectly all my life, which he believed was the cause of most of my other probs, which caused anxiety, panic attacks, triggered asthma etc, and secondly, that because of this, was leading up to burn out, 3rd, lack of sleep, because of all the factors. He told me to use the paper bag thing till I got the hang of correct breathing.It is something that doesn,t come natural to everyone,( correct breathing).So it often has to be learned, so it sometimes takes months/ years to become second nature to you. Believe me, it changed my whole life. Cos when I do get ill, scared of something, overly worried, asthma ,pain etc, I say to myself, STOP take a breath,remind myself of the past, and then remind myself, that whatever the worry or circumstance was that made me forget to breath right, almost had me lost in the maize again, and I pull myself up real quick. Its a hell of a feeling, I can tell you, and it is serious unless you address it, because I do know it can make you crash. I have explained the breathing to Lee etc, I know she is sensible, but it shouldn,t be left till its caused a bigger problem, like break down etc. Hugs again, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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