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Tristan has the same problem with " force " . If you figure out an

answer, please let me know.

HUGS...Colleen

> I think its the force the drs/nurses/ aides use thats causing alot

of Mics problems I know it is that doc did not force but had to in

end to get job done steve held him down to look in ears and listen to

chest, chest is sounding good.Theres gotta be a better answer than

that.Everything they do its always force no matter if its changing

him or taking his temp.Mic is ok looks bad the drugs I think I hate

anitbiotics they make me feel awlful I cant imagine what these

injections are doing to him.I am digging for a way to ease the

force.Its the only thing I can do to help him and it bothers me the

most of anything at all.Quick force is not so bad but hard to do on

him.Too many people holding him down and forcing.Any ideas Laurie

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In a message dated 2/12/2004 8:51:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mick8_7@... writes:

Quick force is not so bad but hard to do on him.Too many people holding him

down and forcing.Any ideas Laurie

Laurie, you have to know your kid. Sometimes, force is the ONLY way with

Maddie. Like visiting the dentist...there's no waiting, appeasing, going

slow...she's gonna fight no matter what. So the best thing is to get in there

and do it quick (some folks use an anesthesia and we may resort to that as she

gets older). But other times, it's just a matter of being patient. Our ped

is wonderful. When we come in, he books us for over an hour...we go real

slow with him chatting with me first. Then he lets her dangle his tie and

play with the stethoscope. Before he checks ears, she gets to touch the

equipment..same with the tongue depressor. The fact that he looks and sounds

exactly like Mr. probably helps...LOL Oh, and the thing that has worked

wonders this year with in and out medical visits is doing everything while she's

in her stroller. It's her safe zone.

hope this helps,

Donna

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In a message dated 2/16/04 8:31:33 AM Central Standard Time,

writes:

> Laurie,

>

> I remember when was in the hospital that we used to move him out of

> his crib to a treatment room to put in an IV for instance so that his crib

> was

> a " safe " place. When the lab techs came in to take blood, I wouldn't let

> them

> start it when he was asleep, I would wake him up and hold him. We also had

> a

> rule that any one tech could try twice to get blood and if she/he couldn't

> do

> it, they had to call someone else. I don't recall them ever taking a rectal

>

> temp. Why would they do that with Mic when there are so many alternatives?

>

> You can tell them NO...find another way to get it. We do hold down

> to

> get blood; usually his Dad, me and two techs. I talk to him and usually

> it's

> over fairly quickly. Does he have a " primary care nurse " when he is

> hospitalized? I have found that they can be terrific advocates if you ask

> them. You

> and Mic are in our prayers that all goes easier for him this time.

>

> Terry

>

>

Laurie,

I think you are right on. When is in the hosp and they want to do

something or when they want to run a test I make sure it is necessary. Terry is

more tolerant about pokes than I am. 1 try and no digging around. If you can't

get it then send someone later to try.

has a nissen without a feeding tube. It was done when he was 3. Last

year he had a bowel obstruction and he vomited even with the nissen. I hear this

isn't unusual this many years after the surgery.

I think it is hard esp. with a little one since nurses and techs know they

can over power them. We don't usually have much argument with now since he

is big enough that nurses don't want to mess with him. He also learned that

medical personnel really hate spitting. He holds a grudge and will get even

with them later (so do I).

The other thing I find is that I feel they underutilize pain medication for

our kids (at least for ) because he doesn't show typical symptoms of pain.

He just gets really nasty. I am always riding the nurses to keep him

medicated for pain after a procedure.

Will Mic allow an Emla patch on his arm before blood draws or IVs or what he

fight that. prefers the blood draw, forget sticking something to his arm

for 1/2 hour?

I end up staying 24/7 with when he has been hospitalized or he ends up

strapped to the bed or with some nurse distraught and not helping him. Makes

me angry. On the other hand sometimes I have to laugh at the things he has come

up with to torture interns, residents and nurses he didn't like.

Karyn

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In a message dated 2/16/2004 7:15:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

KVanRyzin@... writes:

Will Mic allow an Emla patch on his arm before blood draws or IVs or what he

fight that.

Don't know that this would work now with Maddie, but in the past I have

scheduled blood draws VERY early in the am. I would go in 30 minutes before

we

had to leave and apply the emla and patch while she slept. She still flipped

during the draw, but at least I knew it wasn't because she was in pain. I

know emla works, as my 20 year old daughter was part of the study Dr Capone

did...she didnt' want to use the emla but i wanted to know how it worked. She

said she didn't feel a thing.

Donna

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Hi Laurie,

Zeb has many sensory issues as well. He will not tolerate a bandaid. I did

use the Elma cream but wrapped his arm in a piece of plastic wrap rather than

use the plastic bandaid cover that comes with the cream. It worked for Zeb. Just

a thought. Zeb gets freaked in the hospital too. I understand how you feel

and what you are saying. I stop any hospital employee if I do not agree with

their methods. One time they sent a hospital social worker to see me. They

suggested I see someone. I was more than p..... but they were very careful what

they

did to Zeb. Do what you need to do. Another strongwilled mom. My thoughts are

with you and Mic daily.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 11 DS/OCD

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