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theres charcoal and clay binders, theres several froms of detox online you might

search and see if of those interest you. I have the stomach and bowel problems

too so I understand needing to stay natural and mild

, green veg's help detox, garlic too, I munch on alot of celery too.

milk thisle, theres a herb called slippery weed I thought about trying.

even a colon cleanse sometimes is good. soaking in warm baths with bakeing soda

or epsom salts. even drinking epsom salt in water

and/or bakeing soda and water. you can blend several green veggie's and garlic

as both ruffage/binding and cleaning. lemon and limes are good too.

fruit smothies, use fruit that void of bad spots and still alittle unrippened.

dark berries are good but watch out for over ripe/rotting ones. fresh uncut

watermellon but it starts fermenting pretty fast with air contact,sometimes I

just eat it inplace of a meal, good for kidney and bladder detox too. pomanaid

juice.

> >

> > Milk of Magnesia stops the digestive systems process, and confuses

eventually. You can try Flaxseed in a fruit shake.

> >

> > Abraham

> >

> > Try

> > 2 teaspoons EVERY night!

> >

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Yes! I do all these things-especially soaking in a tub-excellent for detoxing.

I have also done raw food weeks with juicing for 3 of the days and colonics

which I swear by but I know is really not for everybody.

It's really important what you put in to your body but it's so hard too.

Thanks for the suggestions! Surella

> > >

> > > Milk of Magnesia stops the digestive systems process, and

confuses eventually. You can try Flaxseed in a fruit shake.

> > >

> > > Abraham

> > >

> > > Try

> > > 2 teaspoons EVERY night!

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> It may take a year to see a measurable improvement with CSM if you have a

great toxin load, also if you are still in a toxic environment, it will not keep

up at all, this has been my personal experience.

, what happens to you when you take csm and you're not in a really pristine

environment?

My own system goes into rebellion and won't release anything.

I just get sick feeling and constipated.

Once I get my mold levels down REALLY low, the toxins just pour out. But it

takes a really concerted effort at extreme avoidance to do that.

Thanks,

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The only time I've had a problem with constapation through this whole ordeal was

when I tried CSM. both of my exposures caused dierehia and drastic weight loss.

> >

> > It may take a year to see a measurable improvement with CSM if you have a

great toxin load, also if you are still in a toxic environment, it will not keep

up at all, this has been my personal experience.

>

>

> , what happens to you when you take csm and you're not in a really

pristine environment?

>

> My own system goes into rebellion and won't release anything.

>

> I just get sick feeling and constipated.

>

> Once I get my mold levels down REALLY low, the toxins just pour out. But it

takes a really concerted effort at extreme avoidance to do that.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

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Slaya, so let me see if I have this straight, CSM works by itself but only if

your in a pristine environment. which means what?

and where? a moldy desert in the winter? traveling to two different pristine

spots contantly, if you can find them?

what do these pristine environments do? stop immune responces to everything?

that can cause a immune responce?

would desert sand flying around and up your nose with severe sinus problems not

be considered a irritant, also causeing a immune responce?

does your immune system not work at all in which case you'd be dead ?

does your liver not work at all in which case you'd be dead?

has CSM somehow interfered with your liver where it doesn't detox at all?

> >

> > It may take a year to see a measurable improvement with CSM if you have a

great toxin load, also if you are still in a toxic environment, it will not keep

up at all, this has been my personal experience.

>

>

> , what happens to you when you take csm and you're not in a really

pristine environment?

>

> My own system goes into rebellion and won't release anything.

>

> I just get sick feeling and constipated.

>

> Once I get my mold levels down REALLY low, the toxins just pour out. But it

takes a really concerted effort at extreme avoidance to do that.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

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Slaya, so maybe Dr. Shoemaker should say CSM only works if you can live in a

prestine environment instead of just removeing yourself from the overly

contaminated WDB ? is that what your saying?

> >

> > It may take a year to see a measurable improvement with CSM if you have a

great toxin load, also if you are still in a toxic environment, it will not keep

up at all, this has been my personal experience.

>

>

> , what happens to you when you take csm and you're not in a really

pristine environment?

>

> My own system goes into rebellion and won't release anything.

>

> I just get sick feeling and constipated.

>

> Once I get my mold levels down REALLY low, the toxins just pour out. But it

takes a really concerted effort at extreme avoidance to do that.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

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See if you can get Welchol. It is a tablet and I found CSM really hard to

tolerate, not my stomach but swallowing. I also think that acidophilus is

really helpful for your stomach to reset the balance that gets disturbed by the

whole experience.

>

> The only time I've had a problem with constapation through this whole ordeal

was when I tried CSM. both of my exposures caused dierehia and drastic weight

loss.

>

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Thanks Ginloi, I'll check those out.

> >

> > The only time I've had a problem with constapation through this whole ordeal

was when I tried CSM. both of my exposures caused dierehia and drastic weight

loss.

> >

>

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My understanding from my kid's doc (dr. gray) is that you need to

practice avoidance along with the CSM and any other treatments, it's not

going to help if you are still in a highly moldy environment, I don't

think it means you have to scrub the floors with a toothbrush until they

are so clean you can eat off of them.

Sue

>Slaya, so maybe Dr. Shoemaker should say CSM only works if you can live

>in a prestine environment instead of just removeing yourself from the

>overly contaminated WDB ? is that what your saying?

>

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denise,

does it " kill " lyme bacteria the way an antibiotic would?

danielle

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM, McDermott <pattymcd@...>wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> So many have had constipation and other side effects when using

> cholestryamine. There is an alternative medication - it's Welchol.

> I think the usual dosage is 2 pills 3 times a day, but I couldn't

> handle that much so I'm taking 2 pills once a day. Also, be aware

> that if you have high Triglycerides (over 500), you should not take

> Welchol - at minimum consult your doctor. All other questions

> were answered by Sara.

>

> Take care and be well.

> Patty

> cholestyramine

> Posted by: " " theduchess4@...

<theduchess4%40gmail.com>duchess29687

> Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm (PDT)

>

> Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> energy etc.

> .

> A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> Lyme could be cured.

>

> This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

>

>

>

>

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denise,

does it " kill " lyme bacteria the way an antibiotic would?

danielle

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM, McDermott <pattymcd@...>wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> So many have had constipation and other side effects when using

> cholestryamine. There is an alternative medication - it's Welchol.

> I think the usual dosage is 2 pills 3 times a day, but I couldn't

> handle that much so I'm taking 2 pills once a day. Also, be aware

> that if you have high Triglycerides (over 500), you should not take

> Welchol - at minimum consult your doctor. All other questions

> were answered by Sara.

>

> Take care and be well.

> Patty

> cholestyramine

> Posted by: " " theduchess4@...

<theduchess4%40gmail.com>duchess29687

> Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm (PDT)

>

> Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> energy etc.

> .

> A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> Lyme could be cured.

>

> This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

>

>

>

>

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Read Ritchie Shoemaker's book " Mold Warriiors " . It not only deals with mold

toxins but also lyme toxins, as CSM (Cholestyramine) also moves out lyme toxins

according to Dr. Shoemaker. I was on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol (CSM & doxy) for 9

months and it helped me greatly. He does a lot of different testing (c4a, MSH,

VEGF, MMP9 to name a few) and HLA-DR gene testing also as many people have

certain genes that prohibit the body from releasing certain toxins. Thus the

need for this old cholesterol lowering drug CSM that not only helps the body get

rid of cholesterol but also has been found to release mold toxins and toxins

left from lyme disease, even in those with the non releasing specific genes. I

do not know about curing lyme disease though as this protocol is mostly for

chronic lyme casses, especially those that do not seem to improve or feel well

after a lot of treatments to kill the lyme bacteria. Dr. Shoemaker feels that

chronic human illness can be caused by " exposure to toxins produced by living

organisms (biotoxins) " ....in our case the Borrelia burgdorferi and other tick

related bacteria. He also has what he calls the VCS eye test (visual contrast

sensitivity) in which certain results have been found to be associated to toxin

exposure. One can take this test on his website, but be aware that I took both

the website test and also the test in a doctor's office. I did not do good on

the office testing at all, but did good on the internet test. After 9 months of

his protocol, my VCS testing greatly improved.

http://www.moldwarriors.com/about-ritchie-shoemaker.htm

Click on " Lyme Disease "

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/lymedisease.cfm

http://www.moldwarriors.com/

Hope this helps. V

>

> > Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> > been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> > energy etc.

> > .

> > A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> > Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> > pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> > prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> > considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> > Lyme could be cured.

> >

> > This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Read Ritchie Shoemaker's book " Mold Warriiors " . It not only deals with mold

toxins but also lyme toxins, as CSM (Cholestyramine) also moves out lyme toxins

according to Dr. Shoemaker. I was on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol (CSM & doxy) for 9

months and it helped me greatly. He does a lot of different testing (c4a, MSH,

VEGF, MMP9 to name a few) and HLA-DR gene testing also as many people have

certain genes that prohibit the body from releasing certain toxins. Thus the

need for this old cholesterol lowering drug CSM that not only helps the body get

rid of cholesterol but also has been found to release mold toxins and toxins

left from lyme disease, even in those with the non releasing specific genes. I

do not know about curing lyme disease though as this protocol is mostly for

chronic lyme casses, especially those that do not seem to improve or feel well

after a lot of treatments to kill the lyme bacteria. Dr. Shoemaker feels that

chronic human illness can be caused by " exposure to toxins produced by living

organisms (biotoxins) " ....in our case the Borrelia burgdorferi and other tick

related bacteria. He also has what he calls the VCS eye test (visual contrast

sensitivity) in which certain results have been found to be associated to toxin

exposure. One can take this test on his website, but be aware that I took both

the website test and also the test in a doctor's office. I did not do good on

the office testing at all, but did good on the internet test. After 9 months of

his protocol, my VCS testing greatly improved.

http://www.moldwarriors.com/about-ritchie-shoemaker.htm

Click on " Lyme Disease "

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/lymedisease.cfm

http://www.moldwarriors.com/

Hope this helps. V

>

> > Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> > been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> > energy etc.

> > .

> > A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> > Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> > pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> > prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> > considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> > Lyme could be cured.

> >

> > This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Cholestyramine does not kill anything. It is used to flush cholesterol and

substances in the bile out of the body. It is used in Lyme treatments to help

flush toxins that may have been left in your body by Lyme bacteria. Side

effects include constipation and flatulance. Drink it at least one hour after

medicines and wait at least 6 hours before taking any more medicine as that too

will be flushed out.

________________________________

From: le Handy <kndplus2@...>

Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 11:28:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] cholestyramine

denise,

does it " kill " lyme bacteria the way an antibiotic would?

danielle

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM, McDermott <pattymcd@...>wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> So many have had constipation and other side effects when using

> cholestryamine. There is an alternative medication - it's Welchol.

> I think the usual dosage is 2 pills 3 times a day, but I couldn't

> handle that much so I'm taking 2 pills once a day. Also, be aware

> that if you have high Triglycerides (over 500), you should not take

> Welchol - at minimum consult your doctor. All other questions

> were answered by Sara.

>

> Take care and be well.

> Patty

> cholestyramine

> Posted by: " " theduchess4@...

<theduchess4%40gmail.com>duchess29687

> Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm (PDT)

>

> Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> energy etc.

> .

> A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> Lyme could be cured.

>

> This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

>

>

>

>

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Cholestyramine does not kill anything. It is used to flush cholesterol and

substances in the bile out of the body. It is used in Lyme treatments to help

flush toxins that may have been left in your body by Lyme bacteria. Side

effects include constipation and flatulance. Drink it at least one hour after

medicines and wait at least 6 hours before taking any more medicine as that too

will be flushed out.

________________________________

From: le Handy <kndplus2@...>

Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 11:28:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] cholestyramine

denise,

does it " kill " lyme bacteria the way an antibiotic would?

danielle

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM, McDermott <pattymcd@...>wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> So many have had constipation and other side effects when using

> cholestryamine. There is an alternative medication - it's Welchol.

> I think the usual dosage is 2 pills 3 times a day, but I couldn't

> handle that much so I'm taking 2 pills once a day. Also, be aware

> that if you have high Triglycerides (over 500), you should not take

> Welchol - at minimum consult your doctor. All other questions

> were answered by Sara.

>

> Take care and be well.

> Patty

> cholestyramine

> Posted by: " " theduchess4@...

<theduchess4%40gmail.com>duchess29687

> Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm (PDT)

>

> Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> energy etc.

> .

> A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> Lyme could be cured.

>

> This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

>

>

>

>

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This is very interesting. When I first became ill I wondered about mold toxin. I

was living in a n period home at the time. There was a gray-green mold

that grew in the closet and in cabinets. I knew that HAD to be NO GOOD AT ALL. I

could not stop the stuff. I wondered if it was something that I had once heard

called 'House Sickness'.

I was told that the second round with Lyme tested out negative. That was only

about six months after the first bite that was positive.

Knowing that spirochetes can cloak or hide so as to go undetected I wondered if

the second tests came back false-negative. Nevertheless there was that tell-tale

bite mark with a bulls-eye around it just before I fell ill, once again.

Now that I am feeling so much better I will still be wondering about the

house-sickness from the mold where I had lived. Supposedly both Olive Leaf

Extract and Wild Oregano are both strong anti-viral medications as well as being

anti-fungal.

Nevertheless I intend to look into cholestyramine.

Fungi is a notoriously hard thing to kill off.

Thanks SO much for the information!!!

                 

                 Be well and well blessed,

                                

                                    Errol

He who binds himself to a joy,

Does the winged life destroy.

But he who kisses it as it flies,

Lives in eternity’s sunrise. ~ Blake

 

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This is very interesting. When I first became ill I wondered about mold toxin. I

was living in a n period home at the time. There was a gray-green mold

that grew in the closet and in cabinets. I knew that HAD to be NO GOOD AT ALL. I

could not stop the stuff. I wondered if it was something that I had once heard

called 'House Sickness'.

I was told that the second round with Lyme tested out negative. That was only

about six months after the first bite that was positive.

Knowing that spirochetes can cloak or hide so as to go undetected I wondered if

the second tests came back false-negative. Nevertheless there was that tell-tale

bite mark with a bulls-eye around it just before I fell ill, once again.

Now that I am feeling so much better I will still be wondering about the

house-sickness from the mold where I had lived. Supposedly both Olive Leaf

Extract and Wild Oregano are both strong anti-viral medications as well as being

anti-fungal.

Nevertheless I intend to look into cholestyramine.

Fungi is a notoriously hard thing to kill off.

Thanks SO much for the information!!!

                 

                 Be well and well blessed,

                                

                                    Errol

He who binds himself to a joy,

Does the winged life destroy.

But he who kisses it as it flies,

Lives in eternity’s sunrise. ~ Blake

 

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I guess my questions have already been answered, thanks

Christie Lynn

Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover

Claremore, Oklahoma

camnchloe@...

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--- @ WiseStamp Signature. Get it now

________________________________

From: christie brewer <camnchloe@...>

Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 3:30:36 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: cholestyramine

I just got prescribed Cholestryramine by my doc. Is there anything I should know

about taking it? Can I take other meds with it, and do you have to take it at

bedtime? Also does it take awhile to see improvement or will I know pretty

quick?

Christie Lynn

Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover

Claremore, Oklahoma

camnchloe@...

" All that we are is a result of what we have thought " Buddha

--- @ WiseStamp Signature. Get it now

________________________________

From: maribob7 <myrv@...>

Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 12:11:22 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: cholestyramine

Read Ritchie Shoemaker's book " Mold Warriiors " . It not only deals with mold

toxins but also lyme toxins, as CSM (Cholestyramine) also moves out lyme toxins

according to Dr. Shoemaker. I was on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol (CSM & doxy) for 9

months and it helped me greatly. He does a lot of different testing (c4a, MSH,

VEGF, MMP9 to name a few) and HLA-DR gene testing also as many people have

certain genes that prohibit the body from releasing certain toxins. Thus the

need for this old cholesterol lowering drug CSM that not only helps the body get

rid of cholesterol but also has been found to release mold toxins and toxins

left from lyme disease, even in those with the non releasing specific genes. I

do not know about curing lyme disease though as this protocol is mostly for

chronic lyme casses, especially those that do not seem to improve or feel well

after a lot of treatments to kill the lyme bacteria. Dr. Shoemaker feels that

chronic human illness can be caused by " exposure to toxins produced by living

organisms (biotoxins) " ....in our case the Borrelia burgdorferi and other tick

related bacteria. He also has what he calls the VCS eye test (visual contrast

sensitivity) in which certain results have been found to be associated to toxin

exposure. One can take this test on his website, but be aware that I took both

the website test and also the test in a doctor's office. I did not do good on

the office testing at all, but did good on the internet test. After 9 months of

his protocol, my VCS testing greatly improved.

http://www.moldwarriors.com/about-ritchie-shoemaker.htm

Click on " Lyme Disease "

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/lymedisease.cfm

http://www.moldwarriors.com/

Hope this helps. V

>

> > Has anyone been prescribed " cholestyramine " for their lyme disease? It has

> > been a year since I was diagnosed and I still feel horrible. I have no

> > energy etc.

> > .

> > A friend of mine had a relative who was diagnosed months after getting

> > Lyme. He went to a Dr. in Pennsylvania who is friends with one of the

> > pioneer Dr's of Lyme. It is a powder form. I plan to ask my Dr if he will

> > prescribe it for me. The person I know took it for 6 months and is

> > considered cured. I have done considerably research and didn't know that

> > Lyme could be cured.

> >

> > This powder is supposed to be for other things but it works for L.D.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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These links are dealing with taking CSM for high cholesterol, but the same

precations apply. Also when I received my prescription I received a pamphlet

telling me how to take it. I took the compounded CSM to avoid all the extras in

Questran. V

http://www.gihealth.com/html/education/drugs/cholestyramine.html

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682672.html

>

> I just got prescribed Cholestryramine by my doc. Is there anything I should

know

> about taking it? Can I take other meds with it, and do you have to take it at

> bedtime? Also does it take awhile to see improvement or will I know pretty

> quick?

>

> Christie Lynn

> Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover

> Claremore, Oklahoma

> camnchloe@...

>

>

>

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Thank you for all the info and the links ladies.

Christie Lynn

Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover

Claremore, Oklahoma

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--- @ WiseStamp Signature. Get it now

________________________________

From: maribob7 <myrv@...>

Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 1:46:21 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: cholestyramine

These links are dealing with taking CSM for high cholesterol, but the same

precations apply. Also when I received my prescription I received a pamphlet

telling me how to take it. I took the compounded CSM to avoid all the extras in

Questran. V

http://www.gihealth.com/html/education/drugs/cholestyramine.html

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682672.html

>

> I just got prescribed Cholestryramine by my doc. Is there anything I should

>know

>

> about taking it? Can I take other meds with it, and do you have to take it at

> bedtime? Also does it take awhile to see improvement or will I know pretty

> quick?

>

> Christie Lynn

> Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover

> Claremore, Oklahoma

> camnchloe@...

>

>

>

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