Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 After what Dr. Jay Gordon said yesterday, it makes a lot of sense that doctors are asking parents to sign some type of form. Here are my thoughts on the subject. Thoroughly read the refusal form that he/she is asking you to sign (take it home and let them know that you need time to look it over/go over it with your spouse). Just because the AAP has their own " incriminating refusal form " doesn't necessarily mean that it is the one that your doctor will use. (The AAP clearly states on their website that another version may be used by the doctor or patient). The AAP also advises that it is not good practice to refuse seeing the patient either. However, it is a judgement call for the doctor's comfort level as to whether or not the relationship should be terminated. Have a heart to heart talk with your doctor. Ask if he/she would be willing to accept a revised version of the form. Tell him/her that you will make sure that your revised form will clearly indicate that you would not hold the doctor liable in the event that your child contracts a vaccine-preventable disease. My suggestions for a revised form are as follows: 1. It should state that the parent will not hold the doctor responsible in the event that the said child contracts the vaccine- preventable disease. Make sure that you also indicate that you understand that each vaccine does not guarantee immunity 100% either because it depends upon the strains that you are vaccinating against and what strains are " going around " . 2. Clearly state that you also understand that if your child is vaccinated and suffers a serious reaction, the doctor nor the maker of the vaccine can be held liable. Though you may be able to file a Vaccine Injury Compensation Claim, it doesn't guarantee payment for certain types of injuries. This is another risk that you are not willing to take because you just may be held liable for all medical costs associated with said injury. 3. Clearly outline a lengthy list of adverse reactions associated with all of the vaccines. State that you feel that these risks are exactly that - a risk that you are not willing to take due to possible outcome stated in section 2. 4. Clearly outline that you and your doctor have discussed the risks/benefits for every vaccine (be sure to list all of the vaccines) and that you are declining at this time. In the event that you ever change your mind, you will discuss all available options with your doctor. Bottom line is that your doctor is only looking to cover his butt. If you set the form up in a way that relieves his liability, but at the same time indicates that you are not willing to take any such risk for any vaccine that does not offer 100% immunity - you should not have a problem. You should also suggest to your doctor that the medical community should get together and try to pass legislation to change that bogus flaw with the system. Doctors should not be held accountable if the parents choose not to vaccinate. It is wrong! It is the parent's decision not to vaccinate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 > >My suggestions for a revised form are as follows: > >1. It should state that the parent will not hold the doctor >responsible in the event that the said child contracts the vaccine- >preventable disease. Make sure that you also indicate that you >understand that each vaccine does not guarantee immunity 100% either >because it depends upon the strains that you are vaccinating against >and what strains are " going around " . Never use the term - vaccine-preventable disease - there is not such thing Vaccines do not prevent the disease You could say 'the said child contracts a disease that has a vaccine associated with it " >You should also suggest to your doctor that the medical community >should get together and try to pass legislation to change that bogus >flaw with the system. Doctors should not be held accountable if the >parents choose not to vaccinate. It is wrong! It is the parent's >decision not to vaccinate. I don't know that they are liable - how could they be. It is a " power-over " thing and nothing to do with any liability Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Hi Sheri! Actually pediatrician, Dr. Jay Gordon (California) stated that doctors can be sued if the parents didn't vaccinate and the child catches the disease. The doctor can be sued for mental anguish and lost wages on behalf of the parent. > > > > > >My suggestions for a revised form are as follows: > > > >1. It should state that the parent will not hold the doctor > >responsible in the event that the said child contracts the vaccine- > >preventable disease. Make sure that you also indicate that you > >understand that each vaccine does not guarantee immunity 100% either > >because it depends upon the strains that you are vaccinating against > >and what strains are " going around " . > > > Never use the term - vaccine-preventable disease - there is not such thing > Vaccines do not prevent the disease > > You could say 'the said child contracts a disease that has a vaccine > associated with it " > > > > > >You should also suggest to your doctor that the medical community > >should get together and try to pass legislation to change that bogus > >flaw with the system. Doctors should not be held accountable if the > >parents choose not to vaccinate. It is wrong! It is the parent's > >decision not to vaccinate. > > > I don't know that they are liable - how could they be. > > It is a " power-over " thing and nothing to do with any liability > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Well, even though he said it, I don't see how. Sheri At 09:26 AM 7/2/2008, you wrote: Hi Sheri! Actually pediatrician, Dr. Jay Gordon (California) stated that doctors can be sued if the parents didn't vaccinate and the child catches the disease. The doctor can be sued for mental anguish and lost wages on behalf of the parent. > > > > > >My suggestions for a revised form are as follows: > > > >1. It should state that the parent will not hold the doctor > >responsible in the event that the said child contracts the vaccine- > >preventable disease. Make sure that you also indicate that you > >understand that each vaccine does not guarantee immunity 100% either > >because it depends upon the strains that you are vaccinating against > >and what strains are " going around " . > > > Never use the term - vaccine-preventable disease - there is not such thing > Vaccines do not prevent the disease > > You could say 'the said child contracts a disease that has a vaccine > associated with it " > > > > > >You should also suggest to your doctor that the medical community > >should get together and try to pass legislation to change that bogus > >flaw with the system. Doctors should not be held accountable if the > >parents choose not to vaccinate. It is wrong! It is the parent's > >decision not to vaccinate. > > > I don't know that they are liable - how could they be. > > It is a " power-over " thing and nothing to do with any liability > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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