HONEY

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

So, I was a bit confused too and googled to find more information. It seems

there is a big debate on how to define " raw " and that the

labeling of honey is not standardized. So, some that label it as raw,

actually has been heated slightly (perhaps to melt the wax?). Some

purists believe you need to buy the honeycomb and eat it that way to be

sure. It seems the benefits are agreed upon and that the heating

may destroy some of the enzymes.

Funny, there was a link to vitacost (where I get fish oil) and they sell the

raw honey.

I wonder how they can label it organic when bees have free reign to go to

any flower, whether with pesticides/etc. or not. Perhaps they test the

honey?

I think for kids under 1 year of age the risk is for the infant botulinum

spores/contamination.

Anyways, as usual there is way too much information out there!

I will be adding more " raw honey " to our diets!

Jess

On 7/14/07, Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote:

>

> My confusion comes from only finding raw in the store but reading we

> should only use pasteurized with little ones. I am just so scared to

> create new gut stuff by getting it wrong.

>

> Dion wrote:

>

> >Liz,

> >>From what I understand....isn't it all raw???

> >We watched a " reading rainbow " the other day about bees and honey and

> they

> >showed the honeycombs, how

> >the wax is melted off and the honey is drained and centrifuged out. Then

> it

> >was just poured into the jars!

> >THen, my friend's mom owns some hives and I asked her about the

> >extraction....I even asked if it was pasteurized

> >and the answer was no. They did it just like the reading rainbow

> episode!!

> >

> >Jess

> >

> >On 7/14/07, Liz <lizlaw@... <lizlaw%40optonline.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >> My new dietary life requires honey in some things. Anyone know which is

> >>better...pasterized or unpasteurized?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's interesting about the solid, white look of organic, raw honey. I buy our

honey from a friend who raises bees and just puts the honey into jars in her

kitchen. The honey is different colors at different times of the year based on

what flowers are in season at the time. The only " white " honey is in the

winter, which is an understandably small batch. And the only time the honey

turns solid is if it's old and has crystallized. Otherwise, it is liquid and

looks just like regular honey. So it makes me wonder what the solid, white

" organic, raw " stuff is all about. Hmmmm.......

Kim with 4 cuties

fridgudare2003 <toxicangels2@...> wrote:

I thought that it was pasteurized and that's why The Maker's Diet

(there's that book again!) recommends raw. (But then again, honey

jars always say not to give honey to kids under the age of one

because of possible Clostridia.)

I've been buying the Really Raw Honey brand at the local health food

store to add to my kid's smoothies. It's unheated and unstrained,

solid rather than liquid, and supposed to contain lots of nutrients

and enzymes.

Vicki

> >

> > My new dietary life requires honey in some things. Anyone know

which is

> > better...pasterized or unpasteurized?

[Guest guest]

I live in Canada (very cold place), maybe that is why it is white?

[sPAM] Re: [ ] Re: Honey

That's interesting about the solid, white look of organic, raw honey. I buy

our honey from a friend who raises bees and just puts the honey into jars in her

kitchen. The honey is different colors at different times of the year based on

what flowers are in season at the time. The only " white " honey is in the winter,

which is an understandably small batch. And the only time the honey turns solid

is if it's old and has crystallized. Otherwise, it is liquid and looks just like

regular honey. So it makes me wonder what the solid, white " organic, raw " stuff

is all about. Hmmmm.......

Kim with 4 cuties

fridgudare2003 <toxicangels2@...> wrote:

I thought that it was pasteurized and that's why The Maker's Diet

(there's that book again!) recommends raw. (But then again, honey

jars always say not to give honey to kids under the age of one

because of possible Clostridia.)

I've been buying the Really Raw Honey brand at the local health food

store to add to my kid's smoothies. It's unheated and unstrained,

solid rather than liquid, and supposed to contain lots of nutrients

and enzymes.

Vicki

> >

> > My new dietary life requires honey in some things. Anyone know

which is

> > better...pasterized or unpasteurized?

[Guest guest]

I think that the belief that honey should never be cooked or boiled comes from the Ayurvedic tradition. Likewise, it also says that one should be careful in mixing honey and ghee. See www.ayurveda.com/online%20resource/food_combining.pdf

I, too, would love to know more about this.

Peace,

On 1/11/08 4:56 PM, " shf66shf " <stevenfineberg@...> wrote:

Hello:

The only honey I have been using for years is raw, unheated. I am

interesting in hearing from those of you that are baking, if you bake

with raw honey or if you purchase another honey. If you are using a

pasteurized honey, which brand? In Breaking the Vicious cycle..she

doesn't mention using raw honey. I believe she says use a honey that is

clear when held to the light.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > Hello:

> > The only honey I have been using for years is raw, unheated. I am

> > interesting in hearing from those of you that are baking, if you

bake

> > with raw honey or if you purchase another honey. If you are using

a

> > pasteurized honey, which brand? In Breaking the Vicious cycle..she

> > doesn't mention using raw honey. I believe she says use a honey

that is

> > clear when held to the light.

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Honey, although a natural sweetener, still converts to glucose during digestion, just like refined sugar. While raw honey does have some nutritive value, it will still feed candida in the gut, just like any other sugar does. I believe this is why one should be careful with sweeteners while trying to heal gut issues.

Anne

> , thanks so much for sending this info. I guess my question more specifically is in Breaking the Vicious Cycle she considers bee pollen to be an illegal food. Raw honey contains the pollen. In addition the recipes call for baking and cooking with honey, which destroys the enzymes.

[Guest guest]

> > , thanks so much for sending this info. I guess my question

> more specifically is in Breaking the Vicious Cycle she considers bee

> pollen to be an illegal food. Raw honey contains the pollen. In

> addition the recipes call for baking and cooking with honey, which

> destroys the enzymes.

>

[Guest guest]

I no longer use it now that I am diabetic. Garlic honey used to be

amazing good for sore throat or other winter complains. It is one of

the few sweet foods I miss.

Alobar

On 3/11/08, Theresa <4tburns@...> wrote:

> Alobar,

>

> I love your idea for the garlic-honey chicken. But I am curious about

> the honey. Being a sweetener and on so many do not eat lists for those

> trying to control blood sugar, does honey not raise your blood glucose?

>

> Theresa

>

[Guest guest]

The catch with honey is it can spawn big allergic reaction. Local honey

did that to a young girl in our inperson group. Me and mine cannot

tolerate honey.

[Guest guest]

you are right. So many docs dont get allergy...

[ ] Re: honey

The catch with honey is it can spawn big allergic reaction. Local honey

did that to a young girl in our inperson group. Me and mine cannot

tolerate honey.

[Guest guest]

We cannot tolerate honey, either. Our family is allergy prone

[shellfish, peanuts, grasses, tree nuts and soy], and the last time I

had honey, it made me soooooooooo sick to my stomach. My daughter

refuses to eat it, too... We threw it out, as it makes us feel

awful... I didn't know there could be an allergy with it... probably

from the bees pollinating things we are allergic to?

Aubrey

>

> The catch with honey is it can spawn big allergic reaction. Local honey

> did that to a young girl in our inperson group. Me and mine cannot

> tolerate honey.

>

[Guest guest]

I always thought you weren't allowed to give honey to a younger child

not because of allergies but because of some other reason. Looked it

up and it's because of the risk of infant botulism

" Is it true that honey can cause infant botulism?

Answer

Yes, honey can cause infant botulism. Honey is a known source of

bacterial spores that produce Clostridium botulinum bacteria. When

ingested by infants, these bacteria make a toxin that can cause

infant botulism, a rare and serious form of food poisoning. For this

reason, infants under 12 months of age should never be fed honey.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/infant-botulism/HQ00854

But is that still current or a myth -here's another view:

http://www.apitherapy.org/PDF/honey-infants.pdf

I did not give either of my boys honey while infants and both of the

above are for infants under a year. For older children from the

Office of Complimentary Medicine

" Honey allergy is not common "

http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/pdf/cmec/honeysr.pdf

And perhaps honey can help those children in this group who appear to

be growing up allergic to so many things. It's kind of like those

children who are allergic because the house they live in is " too "

clean? " Mounting evidence suggests child allergies linked to sterile

environments " http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20774622/

Perhaps it works the same way for foods? I wouldn't know because

both of my boys are allergy free and I never limited their diets.

" Could a spoonful of honey keep the sneezing, wheezing, itching,

coughing and watery eyes of seasonal allergies away? An immunologist

at the Health Center thinks it's possible. "

http://advance.uconn.edu/1999/990405/04059903.htm

I'm a huge honey fan! (and so is Winnie the Pooh who says " And the

only reason for being a bee that I know of is making honey.....

And the only reason for making honey is so as I can eat it. " )

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[Guest guest]

The problem, with the girl in our group anyway, is environmental

allergies and fluoride. Fluorine based pesticides are not great for

fluorisis folks.

[Guest guest]

Any fluorisis?

> >

> > The catch with honey is it can spawn big allergic reaction. Local

honey

> > did that to a young girl in our inperson group. Me and mine

cannot

> > tolerate honey.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,Thrilled with the information on honey. As soon as our local health store opened this morning I purchased Manuka Honey. My husband is on long term antibiotics and we do know that he has staph colony in his nose. This could be a major benefit to his well being.How long should one take this honey? When is the best time to take it before, during or after food?Thanks again,Breda. Honey

Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee products, venom, etc (see article below)..------------Humble Honey Kills Bacteria

Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis

By Kelley ColihanWebMD Health News

Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of honey,

you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.

Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by the

ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha, and the

prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.

But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to prove and

explain the benefits that honey holds.

Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows honey to

be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.

Honey Kills Bacteria

Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.

In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities become

inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.

Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be caused by

bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.

That's where honey may help.

Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa, tested

two honeys, manuka and sidr..

Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree bush, in

New Zealand.

Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred tree

mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive

honeys.

Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two strains of

staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus) and

MRSA

(methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called

Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).

The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even bacteria

growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that affords

resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.

The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked significantly

better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past

research.

Here's the breakdown of results:

Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for people with

chronic sinusitis.

One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be given honey

because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract, causing

illness or even death.

The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of Otolaryngology

-- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.------------ --------- Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links

Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.

Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.

Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.

To

identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients with

a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion. The

group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control

groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom

allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The

allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three different

kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of compositae

species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee

venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of

honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to

compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were sensitized

to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole

body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition studies

suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely of

bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization may

be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or

even to cross-reacting bee venom components.

[Guest guest]

Well, I couldn't find the original article, so no one knows how the authors of the study envision topical delivery, if they envision it at all. I think they just applied honey on germs inside a petri dish. Most of the studies about the bactericidal properties of honey were done in the context of external wound disinfection.As for eating honey, there is no major contraindication of course, as long as you don't have allergy to bee products. But I doubt it would have the same efficiency as applying it topically.Besides, bear in mind that, even if you put honey inside your nose (say, by diluting it in water), first it would not reach your sinuses unless they have been opened by surgery, second no one knows what kind of effect it may have on the mucosa on the long-term, third, if it has only 60%-90% efficiency, it may only select germs, fouth, diluting it in water may weaken its effects.That being said, honey looks like an excellent option for contaminated external wounds (provided the honey is not contaminated itself).Br J Nurs. 2008 Jun12-25;17(11):S30, S32-6.Links

Honey in wound care: effects, clinical application and patient benefit.

Lay-flurrie K.

Community Leg Ulcer Clinic, St Albans City Hospital, West Hertfordshire Primary Care Trust, Hertfordshire.

The

use of honey in wound management has enjoyed a resurgence. This is

largely due to the growing clinical problem of antibiotic-resistant

bacteria and the combined difficulties for the practitioner in managing

chronic wound types, such as burns, leg ulcers or surgical wounds, that

may become infected, for example, with methicillin-resistant

Staphylococcus aureus or Pseudomonas. The associated costs of treating

such wounds are escalating as a result. While the use of honey as a

wound dressing has been recognized, at least since Egyptian times circa

2000 BC, it is only more recently, due to the development and licensing

of modern honey wound dressings, that such dressings have become more

widely available and used in wound management. This article focuses on

the use of honey in the treatment of infected wounds and burns. It will

examine the effects of honey at the wound bed and its clinical

applications, along with the current dressings available. Also

discussed are the practical considerations, if, like any wound

dressing, honey is to be used safely, appropriately and for the benefit

of the patient.Clin Infect Dis. 2008 Jun 1;46(11):1677-82. Links

Medical-grade honey kills antibiotic-resistant bacteria in vitro and eradicates skin colonization.

Kwakman PH, Van den Akker JP, Güçlü A, Aslami H, Binnekade JM, de Boer L, Boszhard L, us F, Middelhoek P, te Velde AA, Vandenbroucke-Grauls CM, Schultz MJ, Zaat SA.

Department of Medical Microbiology, Academic Medical Center, University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

BACKGROUND:

Antibiotic resistance among microbes urgently necessitates the

development of novel antimicrobial agents. Since ancient times, honey

has been used successfully for treatment of infected wounds, because of

its antibacterial activity. However, large variations in the in vitro

antibacterial activity of various honeys have been reported and hamper

its acceptance in modern medicine. METHODS: We assessed the in vitro

bactericidal activity of Revamil (Bfactory), a medical-grade honey

produced under controlled conditions, and assessed its efficacy for

reduction of forearm skin colonization in healthy volunteers in a

within-subject-controlled trial. RESULTS: With Bacillus subtilis as a

test strain, we demonstrated that the variation in bactericidal

activity of 11 batches of medical-grade honey was <2-fold.

Antibiotic-susceptible and -resistant isolates of Staphylococcus

aureus, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Enterococcus faecium, Escherichia

coli, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Enterobacter cloacae, and Klebsiella

oxytoca were killed within 24 h by 10%-40% (vol/vol) honey. After 2

days of application of honey, the extent of forearm skin colonization

in healthy volunteers was reduced 100-fold (P < .001), and the

numbers of positive skin cultures were reduced by 76% (P < .001).

CONCLUSIONS: Revamil is a promising topical antimicrobial agent for

prevention or treatment of infections, including those caused by

multidrug-resistant bacteria. Complement Ther Clin Pract. 2008 May;14(2):77-82. Epub 2008 Mar 4. Links

Antibacterial activity of honey against community-associated methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (CA-MRSA).

Maeda Y, Loughrey A, Earle JA, Millar BC, Rao JR, Kearns A, McConville O, Goldsmith CE, Rooney PJ, Dooley JS, Lowery CJ, Snelling WJ, McMahon A, McDowell D, JE.

Northern

Ireland Public Health Laboratory, Department of Bacteriology, Belfast

City Hospital, Belfast BT9 7AD, Northern Ireland, UK.

Community-associated

methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (CA-MRSA) has now been

described globally, as a clinically significant pathogen, particularly

associated with skin and soft tissue infections, including abscesses,

cellulitis and furunculosis. The recent emergence of CA-MRSA combined

with its predominant presentation associated with skin and soft tissue

infection, the previous literature indicating honey as an effective

treatment of healthcare-associated HA-MRSA-related wound infection, as

well as honey's ease of topical application, make the current study

timely and of interest to healthcare practitioners involved with wound

management. Although previous studies have examined the antimicrobial

activity of honey against HA-MRSA, such data are limited regarding the

activity of honey against this emerging type of MRSA. CA-MRSA (n=6

isolates), was examined for its susceptibility to natural honey (n=3

honey produced from bees in Northern Ireland and one commercial French

honey). Results demonstrated that all honey was able to reduce the

cultural count of all CA-MRSA from approximately 10(6) colony-forming

units (cfus) (mean = 6.46 log10 cfu/g) to none detectable within 24h of

co-culture of separate CA-MRSA organisms individually with all

four-honey types examined. Subsequent non-selective enrichment of honey

demonstrated that inoculated honey remained positive for CA-MRSA until

72h postinoculation, after which point no culturable organisms could be

detected. This study demonstrated that, in vitro, these natural

products had an antimicrobial activity against the CA-MRSA organisms

tested. Further studies are now required to demonstrate if this

antimicrobial activity has any clinical application. Mol Nutr Food Res. 2008 Apr;52(4):483-9. Links

Identification

and quantification of methylglyoxal as the dominant antibacterial

constituent of Manuka (Leptospermum scoparium) honeys from New Zealand.

Mavric E, Wittmann S, Barth G, Henle T.

Institute of Food Chemistry, Technische Universität Dresden, Dresden, Germany.

The

1,2-dicarbonyl compounds 3-deoxyglucosulose (3-DG), glyoxal (GO), and

methylglyoxal (MGO) were measured as the corresponding quinoxalines

after derivatization with orthophenylendiamine using RP-HPLC and

UV-detection in commercially available honey samples. Whereas for most

of the samples values for 3-DG, MGO, and GO were comparable to

previously published data, for six samples of New Zealand Manuka

(Leptospermum scoparium) honey very high amounts of MGO were found,

ranging from 38 to 761 mg/kg, which is up to 100-fold higher compared

to conventional honeys. MGO was unambigously identified as the

corresponding quinoxaline via photodiodearry detection as well as by

means of mass spectroscopy. Antibacterial activity of honey and

solutions of 1,2-dicarbonyl towards Escherichia coli (E. coli) and

Staphylococcus aureus (S. aureus) were analyzed using an agar well

diffusion assay. Minimum concentrations needed for inhibition of

bacterial growth (minimum inhibitory concentration, MIC) of MGO were

1.1 mM for both types of bacteria. MIC for GO was 6.9 mM (E. coli) or

4.3 mM (S. aureus), respectively. 3-DG showed no inhibition in

concentrations up to 60 mM. Whereas most of the honey samples

investigated showed no inhibition in dilutions of 80% (v/v with water)

or below, the samples of Manuka honey exhibited antibacterial activity

when diluted to 15-30%, which corresponded to MGO concentrations of

1.1-1.8 mM. This clearly demonstrates that the pronounced antibacterial

activity of New Zealand Manuka honey directly originates from MGO.J Med Food. 2008 Mar;11(1):190-2. Links

Additive action of royal jelly and honey against Staphylococcus aureus.

Boukraâ L, Niar A, Benbarek H, Benhanifia M.

Department

of Veterinary Sciences, Faculty of Agro-Veterinary Sciences,

Ibn-Khaldoun, University of Tiaret, Tiaret, Algeria.

laid_bouk@...

Four varieties of honey

and one variety of freshly reaped royal jelly (RJ) were used to

evaluate their additive action against Staphylococcus aureus (ATCC

29523). In a first step honey and RJ were used separately to determine

their minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) against the tested strain.

In a second step, lower concentrations of honey than the MIC were added

to lower concentrations of RJ than the MIC and then incorporated into

media to determine the minimum additive inhibitory concentration. When

tested separately, the MIC of the four varieties of honey ranged

between 20% and 21% (vol/vol), and that of RJ was 2% (vol/vol). When

used jointly, all honey varieties had a more than 50% decrease in MIC

with 1% (vol/vol) RJ. A strong linear correlation was noted between the

MIC decrease of all varieties of honey and RJ.Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2008 Jan;46(1):55-6. Epub 2006 Nov 20. Links

Comment in:

Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2008 Apr;46(3):258.

Manuka honey dressing: An effective treatment for chronic wound infections.

Visavadia BG, Honeysett J, Danford MH.

Maxillofacial Unit, Royal Surrey County Hospital, Egerton Road, Guildford Surrey, UK. bhavin.visavadia@...

The

battle against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) wound

infection is becoming more difficult as drug resistance is widespread

and the incidence of MRSA in the community increases. Manuka honey

dressing has long been available as a non-antibiotic treatment in the

management of chronic wound infections. We have been using

honey-impregnated dressings successfully in our wound care clinic and

on the maxillofacial ward for over a year. Vet Microbiol. 2007 Oct 6;124(3-4):375-81. Epub 2007 Apr 29. Links

Comparison of the antibacterial activity of honey from different provenance against bacteria usually isolated from skin wounds.

Basualdo C, Sgroy V, Finola MS, li JM.

Departamento

de Microbiología e Inmunología, Facultad de Ciencias Exactas,

Fisicoquímicas y Naturales, Universidad Nacional de Río Cuarto, ruta

36, km 601, X5804BYA Río Cuarto, Argentina.

The

antibacterial activity of honey samples provided by apiarists and honey

packers was tested against microorganisms usually isolated from skin

wounds. The antibacterial activity was tested using the well-agar

diffusion assay. The honey samples were tested without dilution, and at

75, 50, 30, and 10% (w/v) dilution. Most of the undiluted honey samples

inhibited the growth of Staphylococcus aureus and Staphylococcus

epidermidis. Some honey samples provided by apiarists also inhibited

the growth of S. aureus even at 50% dilution. Undiluted honey samples

also inhibited the growth of Staphylococcus uberis, Pseudomonas

aeruginosa, Escherichia coli, and Klebsiella pneumoniae, although to a

lesser extent. No inhibition of Micrococcus luteus and Enterococcus

faecalis growth was detected. The diameters of the inhibition zones

generated by honey samples provided by apiarists were larger than those

generated by honey samples provided by honey packers. This observation

may be explained by considering the provenance of the honey samples.J Wound Care. 2007 Sep;16(8):325-8.Links

Effect of medical honey on wounds colonised or infected with MRSA.

Blaser G, Santos K, Bode U, Vetter H, Simon A.

Woundpecker Wound Care Team, Children's Hospital Medical Centre, University of Bonn, Germany.

Full

healing was achieved in seven consecutive patients whose wounds were

either infected or colonised with methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus

aureus. Antiseptics and antibiotics had previously failed to irradicate

the clinical signs of infection.Arch Latinoam Nutr. 2005 Jun;55(2):167-71.Links

[Evaluation

of the antimicrobial action of honey against Staphylococcus aureus,

Staphylococcus epidermidis, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Escherichia coli,

Salmonella enteritidis, Listeria monocytogenes and Aspergillus niger.

Evaluation of its microbiological charge]

[Article in Spanish]

Estrada H, Gamboa Mdel M, Arias ML, Chaves C.

Facultad de Microbiología, Universidad de Costa Rica, Costa Rica.

The

evaluation of the microbiological charge present in Costa Rican samples

as the evaluation of its antimicrobial activity over different

microorganisms, including those associated to wound infections, will

allow to emit criteria referred to its use in therapeutic treatments,

specially as alternative therapy for cases involving antibiotic

resistant bacteria. The microbiological charge of 25 honey samples,

acquired in Costa Rican markets was evaluated through several

indicators including total plate aerobic count, total plate anaerobic

count, total aerobic spore count, total anaerobic spore count and molds

and yeast count. Also, samples were inoculated in tubes with chopped

meat media and plated in egg yolk agar in order to determine the

presence of Clostridium botulinum. For the antimicrobial activity

evaluation, the diffusion method in Muller Hinton agar was performed,

testing different honey concentrations (100, 75, 50, 25, 12,5 and 6,25

% v/v) against Staphylococcus aureus (ATCC 25923), Staphylococcus

epidermidis (UCR 2902), Pseudomonas aeruginosa (ATCC 9027), Escherichia

coli (ATCC25922), Salmonella enteritidis (ATCC 13076), Listeria

monocytogenes (ATCC 19116) and Aspergillus niger. The results obtained

for the microbiological characterization of honey show that 91% of

samples had counts equal or lower than 1,0 x 10(1) CFU/g. No positive

result was obtained for the isolation of C. botulinum. 24 of the

samples analyzed inhibited the growth of S. aureus even in a 25% v/v

concentration, nevertheless, A. niger was no inhibited by any of the

samples tested.J Dermatolog Treat. 2001 Mar;12(1):33-6. Links

Healing of an MRSA-colonized, hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with honey.

Natarajan S, on D, Grey J, Harding KG, RA.

Wound Healing Research Unit, University of Wales College of Medicine, Heath Park, Cardiff, UK. subramanian_natarajan@...

BACKGROUND:

With the everincreasing emergence of antibiotic-resistant pathogens, in

particular methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) in leg

ulcers, a means of reducing the bacterial bioburden of such ulcers,

other than by the use of either topical or systemic antibiotics, is

urgently required. METHODS: We report the case of an immunosuppressed

patient who developed a hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with subclinical

MRSA infection which was subsequently treated with topical application

of manuka honey, without cessation of hydroxyurea or cyclosporin.

RESULTS: MRSA was eradicated from the ulcer and rapid healing was

successfully achieved. CONCLUSION: Honey is recognized to have

antibacterial properties, and can also promote effective wound healing.

A traditional therapy, therefore, appears to have enormous potential in

solving new problems.>> Hi All,> > Thrilled with the information on honey. As soon as our local health store opened this morning I purchased Manuka Honey. My husband is on long term antibiotics and we do know that he has staph colony in his nose. This could be a major benefit to his well being.> > How long should one take this honey? When is the best time to take it before, during or after food?> > Thanks again,> > > Breda.> > > > Honey> > > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee products, venom, etc (see article below).> > ------------> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria> Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis> By Kelley Colihan> WebMD Health News> Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD> Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of honey,> you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.> Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by the> ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha, and the> prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.> But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to prove and> explain the benefits that honey holds.> Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows honey to> be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.> Honey Kills Bacteria> Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.> In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities become> inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.> Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be caused by> bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.> That's where honey may help.> Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa, tested> two honeys, manuka and sidr.> Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree bush, in> New Zealand.> Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred tree> mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive> honeys.> Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two strains of> staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus) and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).> The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even bacteria> growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that affords> resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.> The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked significantly> better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past> research.> Here's the breakdown of results:> * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.> * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.> * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.> * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.> * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for people with> chronic sinusitis.> One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be given honey> because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract, causing> illness or even death.> The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of Otolaryngology> -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.> > ------------ ---------> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links> Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.> Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.> Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.> To> identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients with> a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion. The> group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control> groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom> allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The> allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three different> kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of compositae> species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee> venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of> honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to> compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were sensitized> to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole> body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition studies> suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely of> bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization may> be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or> even to cross-reacting bee venom components.>

[Guest guest]

I have thought about adding a drop of Betadine to the water in my nettie pot to see if it kills the bacteria in my mose. I can actually get the rinse into my sinuses in my cheeks because everyting was cleaned out during my last surgery. I am going to try it this week in. I will let you know.

Honey> > > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty

good one, so the risk of germ selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee products, venom, etc (see article below).> > ------------> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria> Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis> By Kelley Colihan> WebMD Health News> Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD> Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of honey,> you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.> Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by the> ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha, and the> prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.> But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to prove and> explain the benefits that honey holds.> Now

a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows honey to> be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.> Honey Kills Bacteria> Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.> In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities become> inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.> Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be caused by> bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.> That's where honey may help.> Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa, tested> two honeys, manuka and sidr.> Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree bush, in> New Zealand.> Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred tree> mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive>

honeys.> Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two strains of> staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus) and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).> The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even bacteria> growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that affords> resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.> The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked significantly> better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past> research.> Here's the breakdown of results:> * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.> * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.> * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.> * Manuka honey was

63% effective in killing MRSA.> * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for people with> chronic sinusitis.> One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be given honey> because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract, causing> illness or even death.> The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of Otolaryngology> -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.> > ------------ ---------> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links> Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.> Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.> Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.> To> identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients with> a history of systemic allergic

symptoms following honey ingestion. The> group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control> groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom> allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The> allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three different> kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of compositae> species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee> venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of> honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to> compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were sensitized> to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole> body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition studies> suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely

of> bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization may> be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or> even to cross-reacting bee venom components.>

[Guest guest]

Healing sinusitis with honeyLab tests show it can kill up to 91% of bacteria Tom SpearsCanwest News ServiceCREDIT: Reuters/Lila De Guzman/USDA/HandoutNo

one is sure what in the honey kills the bacteria, but something does.

As well, it seems to stimulate healing in the injured tissue. And over

centuries, bacteria haven't built up resistance to honey.OTTAWA - Honey for a sore throat, sure. But honey for sinusitis?Ordinary

honey kills bacteria that cause sinus infections, in many cases better

than antibiotics, says a new study from the University of Ottawa.This

includes the "superbug" MRSA. And honey is effective when the bacteria

form "biofilms," or layers of living material that coat a surface (such

as sinus cavities) and fight off normal drugs the way a raincoat sheds

water.So far the tests are strictly in lab dishes, not in live patients.But

testing on live patients "is very, very close," says Dr. Talal

Alandejani, a resident studying ear, nose and throat medicine at the U

of O, though first they'll do safety tests on animals. He expects it to

pass these tests easily.To reach the sinuses, "we'll use an irrigation needle. This is not new," he said. "Probably

in the non-medical world it sounds weird, but we've been irrigating

with antibiotics already, so it's the same equipment . . . we're just

going to use honey in it."When a sinus infection becomes

chronic, it goes on for months, resisting multiple courses of pills,

irrigation (squirting salt water or antibiotics into the sinuses) and

even surgery.It's miserable. Imagine a cold that lasts the rest

of your life, the doctor says. Current theory says there's likely a

biofilm fighting off treatment.Honey, Alandejani knew, has been

used for centuries to treat infected wounds and burns in much of the

world. It's the backup when antibiotics fail.No one is sure what

in the honey kills the bacteria, but something does. As well, it seems

to stimulate healing in the injured tissue. And over centuries,

bacteria haven't built up resistance to honey.Chronic sinusitis infects 31 million Americans each year, clogging up the spaces behind the forehead, nose and cheekbones."Growth

in biofilms increases bacterial resistance to antibiotics, which may

explain why CRS (chronic sinusitis) responds poorly to antibiotic

therapy," the U of O team writes.Bacterial biofilms can also form inside water pipes, where they are notoriously hard to kill by flushing or chlorinating.The

team used two types of honey, diluted with water - a type called manuka

from New Zealand, and sidr honey from Yemen. (They looked at Canadian

clover and buckwheat honeys as well, but these didn't work.) Both

manuka and sidr honeys completely killed bacteria free-floating in

liquid. They didn't kill all the bugs in a biofilm, but both still did

pretty well, killing 63 to 91 per cent of different bacteria types.These

bacteria included methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), a

"superbug" that is highly resistant to antibiotics. MRSA is a particular problem in hospitals, and is also common among workers on pig farms.Antibiotics

tested on the same biofilms didn't kill as many bacteria as the honey.

One type, rifampin, killed just 18 per cent of the biofilm samples, and

seven more types (including vancomycin) all failed to kill any.The

results were presented Tuesday at the annual meeting of the American

Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, in Chicago.

© Canwest News Service 2008> >> > Hi All,> > > > Thrilled with the information on honey. As soon as our local health store opened this morning I purchased Manuka Honey. My husband is on long term antibiotics and we do know that he has staph colony in his nose. This could be a major benefit to his well being.> > > > How long should one take this honey? When is the best time to take it before, during or after food?> > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > Breda.> > > > > > > > Honey> > > > > > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee products, venom, etc (see article below).> > > > ------------> > > > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria> > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis> > By Kelley Colihan> > WebMD Health News> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD> > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of honey,> > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.> > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by the> > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha, and the> > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.> > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to prove and> > explain the benefits that honey holds.> > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows honey to> > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.> > Honey Kills Bacteria> > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.> > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities become> > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.> > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be caused by> > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.> > That's where honey may help.> > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa, tested> > two honeys, manuka and sidr.> > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree bush, in> > New Zealand.> > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred tree> > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive> > honeys.> > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two strains of> > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus) and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).> > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even bacteria> > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that affords> > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.> > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked significantly> > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past> > research.> > Here's the breakdown of results:> > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.> > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.> > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.> > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.> > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for people with> > chronic sinusitis.> > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be given honey> > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract, causing> > illness or even death.> > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of Otolaryngology> > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.> > > > ------------ ---------> > > > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links> > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.> > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.> > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.> > To> > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients with> > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion. The> > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control> > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom> > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The> > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three different> > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of compositae> > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee> > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of> > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to> > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were sensitized> > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole> > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition studies> > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely of> > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization may> > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or> > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.> >>

[Guest guest]

Oh my god,

I just had a thought after reading this, last month I made oat

cookies and used a whole jar of honey and stuffed my face with them in a week.

Holy shit that’s maybe what’s missing from my tests.

Right I am serious about this, tomorrow I’m making cookies

as I have a fresh jar of honey albeit a different brand. Basically my cookies

where crushed almonds, raisins, loads of cinnamon, cups of oats, some flour,

eggs and a jar of honey. I think I stuck some cranberries in some as well. I ‘ll

check my recipe.

Will let you guys know the story asap.

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of asfyso

Sent: 26 September, 2008 03:54

samters

Subject: Re: Honey

Healing sinusitis with honey

Lab tests show it can kill up to 91% of bacteria

Tom Spears

Canwest News Service

CREDIT:

Reuters/Lila De Guzman/USDA/Handout

No

one is sure what in the honey kills the bacteria, but something does. As

well, it seems to stimulate healing in the injured tissue. And over

centuries, bacteria haven't built up resistance to honey.

OTTAWA - Honey for a sore throat, sure. But honey for sinusitis?

Ordinary honey kills bacteria that cause sinus infections, in many cases

better than antibiotics, says a new study from the University of Ottawa.

This includes the " superbug " MRSA. And honey is effective when the

bacteria form " biofilms, " or layers of living material that coat a

surface (such as sinus cavities) and fight off normal drugs the way a raincoat

sheds water.

So far the tests are strictly in lab dishes, not in live patients.

But testing on live patients " is very, very close, " says Dr. Talal

Alandejani, a resident studying ear, nose and throat medicine at the U of O,

though first they'll do safety tests on animals. He expects it to pass these

tests easily.

To reach the sinuses, " we'll use an irrigation needle. This is not

new, " he said.

" Probably in the non-medical world it sounds weird, but we've been

irrigating with antibiotics already, so it's the same equipment . . . we're

just going to use honey in it. "

When a sinus infection becomes chronic, it goes on for months, resisting

multiple courses of pills, irrigation (squirting salt water or antibiotics into

the sinuses) and even surgery.

It's miserable. Imagine a cold that lasts the rest of your life, the doctor

says. Current theory says there's likely a biofilm fighting off treatment.

Honey, Alandejani knew, has been used for centuries to treat infected wounds

and burns in much of the world. It's the backup when antibiotics fail.

No one is sure what in the honey kills the bacteria, but something does. As

well, it seems to stimulate healing in the injured tissue. And over centuries,

bacteria haven't built up resistance to honey.

Chronic sinusitis infects 31 million Americans each year, clogging up the

spaces behind the forehead, nose and cheekbones.

" Growth in biofilms increases bacterial resistance to antibiotics,

which may explain why CRS (chronic sinusitis) responds poorly to antibiotic

therapy, " the U of O team writes.

Bacterial biofilms can also form inside water pipes, where they are

notoriously hard to kill by flushing or chlorinating.

The team used two types of honey, diluted with water - a type called

manuka from New Zealand, and sidr honey from Yemen. (They looked at Canadian

clover and buckwheat honeys as well, but these didn't work.)

Both manuka and sidr honeys completely killed bacteria free-floating in

liquid. They didn't kill all the bugs in a biofilm, but both still did pretty

well, killing 63 to 91 per cent of different bacteria types.

These bacteria included methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA),

a " superbug " that is highly resistant to antibiotics.

MRSA is a particular problem in hospitals, and is also common among workers

on pig farms.

Antibiotics tested on the same biofilms didn't kill as many bacteria as the

honey. One type, rifampin, killed just 18 per cent of the biofilm samples, and

seven more types (including vancomycin) all failed to kill any.

The results were presented Tuesday at the annual meeting of the American

Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, in Chicago.

© Canwest News

Service 2008

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Thrilled with the information on honey. As soon as our local health

store opened this morning I purchased Manuka Honey. My husband is on long term

antibiotics and we do know that he has staph colony in his nose. This could be

a major benefit to his well being.

> >

> > How long should one take this honey? When is the best time to take it

before, during or after food?

> >

> > Thanks again,

> >

> >

> > Breda.

> >

> >

> >

> > Honey

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following

on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is

not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ

selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author

envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee

products, venom, etc (see article below).

> >

> > ------------

> >

> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis

> > By Kelley Colihan

> > WebMD Health News

> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

> > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of

honey,

> > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.

> > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by

the

> > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha,

and the

> > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.

> > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to

prove and

> > explain the benefits that honey holds.

> > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows

honey to

> > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.

> > Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.

> > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities

become

> > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.

> > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be

caused by

> > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.

> > That's where honey may help.

> > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa,

tested

> > two honeys, manuka and sidr.

> > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree

bush, in

> > New Zealand.

> > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred

tree

> > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive

> > honeys.

> > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two

strains of

> > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus)

and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called

Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).

> > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even

bacteria

> > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that

affords

> > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.

> > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked

significantly

> > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past

> > research.

> > Here's the breakdown of results:

> > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for

people with

> > chronic sinusitis.

> > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be

given honey

> > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract,

causing

> > illness or even death.

> > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of

Otolaryngology

> > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.

> >

> > ------------ ---------

> >

> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links

> > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.

> > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.

> > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.

> > To

> > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients

with

> > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion.

The

> > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control

> > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom

> > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The

> > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three

different

> > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of

compositae

> > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee

> > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of

> > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to

> > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were

sensitized

> > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole

> > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition

studies

> > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely

of

> > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization

may

> > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or

> > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.

> >

>

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Eating honey likely won't have the same effect as applying it topically (effect of digestion, dilution), but is ok unless bee products allergy exists.Cinnamon has very interesting merits against -some- types of biofilms (interferes with the biofilm's quorum sensing, which is a chemical communication system inside the biofilm).It is also an interesting antibacterial against intracellular germs such as tuberculosis, again topically. Note that I would advise against any attempt to irrigate with essential oils (alcoholic, may worsen Samter's) or eating huge quantities of spices (haven't had time to investigate).----------- BMC Microbiol. 2008 Sep 16;8:149. Links

Cinnamaldehyde

and cinnamaldehyde derivatives reduce virulence in Vibrio spp. by

decreasing the DNA-binding activity of the quorum sensing response

regulator LuxR.

Brackman G, Defoirdt T, Miyamoto C, Bossier P, Van Calenbergh S, Nelis H, Coenye T.

Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Microbiology, Ghent University, Harelbekestraat 72, B-9000 Ghent, Belgium. gilles.brackman@...

BACKGROUND:

To date, only few compounds targeting the AI-2 based quorum sensing

(QS) system are known. In the present study, we screened cinnamaldehyde

and substituted cinnamaldehydes for their ability to interfere with

AI-2 based QS. The mechanism of QS inhibition was elucidated by

measuring the effect on bioluminescence in several Vibrio harveyi

mutants. We also studied in vitro the ability of these compounds to

interfere with biofilm formation, stress response and virulence of

Vibrio spp. The compounds were also evaluated in an in vivo assay

measuring the reduction of Vibrio harveyi virulence towards Artemia

shrimp. RESULTS: Our results indicate that cinnamaldehyde and several

substituted derivatives interfere with AI-2 based QS without inhibiting

bacterial growth. The active compounds neither interfered with the

bioluminescence system as such, nor with the production of AI-2. Study

of the effect in various mutants suggested that the target protein is

LuxR. Mobility shift assays revealed a decreased DNA-binding ability of

LuxR. The compounds were further shown to (i) inhibit biofilm formation

in several Vibrio spp., (ii) result in a reduced ability to survive

starvation and antibiotic treatment, (iii) reduce pigment and protease

production in Vibrio anguillarum and (iv) protect gnotobiotic Artemia

shrimp against virulent Vibrio harveyi BB120. CONCLUSION:

Cinnamaldehyde and cinnamaldehyde derivatives interfere with AI-2 based

QS in various Vibrio spp. by decreasing the DNA-binding ability of

LuxR. The use of these compounds resulted in several marked phenotypic

changes, including reduced virulence and increased susceptibility to

stress. Since inhibitors of AI-2 based quorum sensing are rare, and

considering the role of AI-2 in several processes these compounds may

be useful leads towards antipathogenic drugs. Appl Environ Microbiol. 2008 Oct;74(19):5986-90. Epub 2008 Aug 1. Links

Antibacterial activities of naturally occurring compounds against Mycobacterium avium subsp. paratuberculosis.

Wong SY, Grant IR, Friedman M, Elliott CT, Situ C.

Institute

of Agri-Food and Land Use, School of Biological Sciences, Queen's

University Belfast, Keir Building, Stranmillis Road, Belfast BT9

5AG, United Kingdom. ywong04@...

The

antibacterial activities of 18 naturally occurring compounds (including

essential oils and some of their isolated constituents, apple and green

tea polyphenols, and other plant extracts) against three strains of

Mycobacterium avium subsp. paratuberculosis (a bovine isolate [NCTC

8578], a raw-milk isolate [806R], and a human isolate [ATCC 43015])

were evaluated using a macrobroth susceptibility testing method. M.

avium subsp. paratuberculosis was grown in 4 ml Middlebrook 7H9 broth

containing 10% oleic acid-albumin-dextrose-catalase, 0.05% Tween 80 (or

0.2% glycerol), and 2 microg/ml mycobactin J supplemented with five

concentrations of each test compound. The changes in the optical

densities of the cultures at 600 nm as a measure of CFU were recorded

at intervals over an incubation period of 42 days at 37 degrees C. Six

of the compounds were found to inhibit the growth of M. avium subsp.

paratuberculosis. The most effective compound was trans-cinnamaldehyde,

with a MIC of 25.9 microg/ml, followed by cinnamon oil (26.2

microg/ml), oregano oil (68.2 microg/ml), carvacrol (72.2 microg/ml),

2,5-dihydroxybenzaldehyde (74 microg/ml), and

2-hydroxy-5-methoxybenzaldehyde (90.4 microg/ml). With the exception of

carvacrol, a phenolic compound, three of the four most active compounds

are aldehydes, suggesting that the structure of the phenolic group or

the aldehyde group may be important to the antibacterial activity. No

difference in compound activity was observed between the three M. avium

subsp. paratuberculosis strains studied. Possible mechanisms of the

antimicrobial effects are discussed.> > >> > > Hi All,> > > > > > Thrilled with the information on honey. As soon as our local health> store opened this morning I purchased Manuka Honey. My husband is on long> term antibiotics and we do know that he has staph colony in his nose. This> could be a major benefit to his well being.> > > > > > How long should one take this honey? When is the best time to take it> before, during or after food?> > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > Breda.> > > > > > > > > > > > Honey> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following on> WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is> not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ> selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author> envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee> products, venom, etc (see article below).> > > > > > ------------> > > > > > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria> > > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis> > > By Kelley Colihan> > > WebMD Health News> > > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD> > > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of honey,> > > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.> > > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by the> > > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha, and> the> > > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.> > > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to prove> and> > > explain the benefits that honey holds.> > > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows honey> to> > > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.> > > Honey Kills Bacteria> > > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.> > > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities become> > > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.> > > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be> caused by> > > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.> > > That's where honey may help.> > > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa,> tested> > > two honeys, manuka and sidr.> > > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree> bush, in> > > New Zealand.> > > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred tree> > > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive> > > honeys.> > > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two strains> of> > > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus)> and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called> Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).> > > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even> bacteria> > > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that> affords> > > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.> > > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked> significantly> > > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past> > > research.> > > Here's the breakdown of results:> > > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.> > > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.> > > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> > > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.> > > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.> > > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.> > > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for people> with> > > chronic sinusitis.> > > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be given> honey> > > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract,> causing> > > illness or even death.> > > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of> Otolaryngology> > > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.> > > > > > ------------ ---------> > > > > > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links> > > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.> > > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.> > > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.> > > To> > > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients with> > > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion. The> > > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control> > > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom> > > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The> > > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three different> > > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of compositae> > > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee> > > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of> > > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to> > > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were sensitized> > > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole> > > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition studies> > > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely of> > > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization may> > > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or> > > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.> > >> >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.2/1690 - Release Date: 25/Sep/08> 07:05>

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Steve,Best of luck. Look forward to hearing how you get on. Think I'd leave out raisins though.Breda Honey

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following

on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is

not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ

selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author

envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee

products, venom, etc (see article below).

> >

> > ------------

> >

> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis

> > By Kelley Colihan

> > WebMD Health News

> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

> > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of

honey,

> > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.

> > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by

the

> > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha,

and the

> > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.

> > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to

prove and

> > explain the benefits that honey holds.

> > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows

honey to

> > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.

> > Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.

> > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities

become

> > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.

> > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be

caused by

> > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.

> > That's where honey may help.

> > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa,

tested

> > two honeys, manuka and sidr..

> > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree

bush, in

> > New Zealand.

> > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred

tree

> > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive

> > honeys.

> > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two

strains of

> > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus)

and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called

Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).

> > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even

bacteria

> > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that

affords

> > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.

> > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked

significantly

> > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past

> > research.

> > Here's the breakdown of results:

> > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for

people with

> > chronic sinusitis.

> > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be

given honey

> > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract,

causing

> > illness or even death.

> > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of

Otolaryngology

> > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.

> >

> > ------------ ---------

> >

> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links

> > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.

> > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.

> > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.

> > To

> > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients

with

> > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion.

The

> > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control

> > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom

> > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The

> > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three

different

> > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of

compositae

> > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee

> > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of

> > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to

> > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were

sensitized

> > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole

> > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition

studies

> > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely

of

> > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization

may

> > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or

> > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.

> >

>

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http://www.wholegraingourmet.com/recipes/cookies/43-cookies/58-healthy-oatmeal-cookies.html

This is basically the recipe I used, I added 4 teaspoons or cinnamon

and added almonds instead of walnuts only because I had a batch. My honey was

fresh natural organic honey and the Almonds where fresh from a company who

makes ice cream as I go through a couple of kg’s every month for extra

gym protein.

I never used any baking soda, only bicard soda.

Anyway I will be making a batch tomorrow……

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Breda OBrien

Sent: 01 October, 2008 13:50

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Honey

Steve,

Best of luck. Look forward to hearing how you get on. Think I'd leave out

raisins though.

Breda

Honey

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following

on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is

not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ

selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author

envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee

products, venom, etc (see article below).

> >

> > ------------

> >

> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis

> > By Kelley Colihan

> > WebMD Health News

> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

> > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of

honey,

> > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.

> > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by

the

> > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha,

and the

> > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.

> > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to

prove and

> > explain the benefits that honey holds.

> > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows

honey to

> > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.

> > Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.

> > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities

become

> > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.

> > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be

caused by

> > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.

> > That's where honey may help.

> > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa,

tested

> > two honeys, manuka and sidr..

> > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree

bush, in

> > New Zealand.

> > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred

tree

> > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive

> > honeys.

> > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two

strains of

> > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus)

and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called

Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).

> > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even

bacteria

> > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that

affords

> > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.

> > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked

significantly

> > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past

> > research.

> > Here's the breakdown of results:

> > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for

people with

> > chronic sinusitis.

> > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be

given honey

> > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract,

causing

> > illness or even death.

> > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of

Otolaryngology

> > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.

> >

> > ------------ ---------

> >

> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links

> > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.

> > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.

> > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.

> > To

> > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients

with

> > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion.

The

> > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control

> > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom

> > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The

> > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three

different

> > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of

compositae

> > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee

> > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of

> > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to

> > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were

sensitized

> > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole

> > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition

studies

> > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely

of

> > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization

may

> > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or

> > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.

> >

>

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Hey Steve!Any luck with the honey-cinnamon ?From: Steve <skunkburner@...>Subject: RE: Re: Honeysamters Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:02 AM

http://www.wholegraingourmet.com/recipes/cookies/43-cookies/58-healthy-oatmeal-cookies.html This is basically the recipe I used, I added 4 teaspoons or cinnamon

and added almonds instead of walnuts only because I had a batch. My honey was

fresh natural organic honey and the Almonds where fresh from a company who

makes ice cream as I go through a couple of kg’s every month for extra

gym protein. I never used any baking soda, only bicard soda. Anyway I will be making a batch tomorrow……

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Breda OBrien

Sent: 01 October, 2008 13:50

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Honey

Steve,

Best of luck. Look forward to hearing how you get on. Think I'd leave out

raisins though.

Breda

Honey

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I could not find the article, but the following

on WebMD is helpful enough. Honey's efficiency depends on its origin, and it is

not a foolproof bactericide, though a pretty good one, so the risk of germ

selection is not absent. It does not say how the original article's author

envisions topical delivery. Note that some persons are allergic to bee

products, venom, etc (see article below).

> >

> > ------------

> >

> > Humble Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Study: Honey Fights Bacteria That Cause Chronic Sinusitis

> > By Kelley Colihan

> > WebMD Health News

> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

> > Sept. 22, 2008 -- If you start poking around into the history of

honey,

> > you'll find the stuff is revered in many early cultures.

> > Honey is mentioned in the Bible, it was used to preserve corpses by

the

> > ancient Egyptians, was considered sacred during the time of Buddha,

and the

> > prophet Muhammad espoused its potential healing properties.

> > But it's only been in recent times that science has been able to

prove and

> > explain the benefits that honey holds.

> > Now a new study from researchers at the University of Ottawa shows

honey to

> > be effective in killing bacteria that cause chronic sinusitis.

> > Honey Kills Bacteria

> > Chronic sinusitis affects millions of people every year.

> > In chronic sinusitis, the mucous membranes in the sinus cavities

become

> > inflamed, causing headaches, stuffy nose, and difficulty breathing.

> > Though it can be caused by allergies, chronic sinusitis can also be

caused by

> > bacteria that colonize in the nose and sinuses.

> > That's where honey may help.

> > Researchers, led by Tala Alandejani, MD, at the University of Ottawa,

tested

> > two honeys, manuka and sidr..

> > Manuka honey comes from the manuka bush, also known as the tea tree

bush, in

> > New Zealand.

> > Sidr honey comes from the sidr tree in Yemen, an ancient and sacred

tree

> > mentioned in spiritual texts. It's one of the world's most expensive

> > honeys.

> > Researchers singled out three particularly nasty bacteria: two

strains of

> > staph bacteria, MSSA (methicillin- susceptible Staphylococcus aureus)

and MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus), and one called

Pseudomonas aeriginosa (PA).

> > The two types of honey were effective in killing the bacteria. Even

bacteria

> > growing in a biofilm, a thin, slimy layer formed by bacteria that

affords

> > resistance to antibiotics, were susceptible to honey.

> > The researchers also found that the two types of honey worked

significantly

> > better than an antibiotic against MSSA and MRSA, according to past

> > research.

> > Here's the breakdown of results:

> > * Sidr honey was 63% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 73% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Sidr honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > * Manuka honey was 82% effective in killing MSSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 63% effective in killing MRSA.

> > * Manuka honey was 91% effective in killing PA.

> > Scientists hope the results can help lead to a new treatment for

people with

> > chronic sinusitis.

> > One note of caution: Infants one year or younger should never be

given honey

> > because it could become toxic in their underformed intestinal tract,

causing

> > illness or even death.

> > The study is being presented at the 2008 American Academy of

Otolaryngology

> > -- Head and Neck Surgery annual meeting in Chicago.

> >

> > ------------ ---------

> >

> > Allergy. 1992 Feb;47(1):41- 9.Links

> > Allergy to honey: relation to pollen and honey bee allergy.

> > Helbling A, C, Berchtold E, Bogdanov S, Müller U.

> > Medical Division, Zieglerspital, Bern, Switzerland.

> > To

> > identify the allergenic components of honey we studied 22 patients

with

> > a history of systemic allergic symptoms following honey ingestion.

The

> > group of honey-allergic patients was compared with three control

> > groups: 10 subjects sensitized to artemisia, 10 with honey bee venom

> > allergy and 10 without a history of atopy or bee sting reactions. The

> > allergological tests included skin tests and RAST with three

different

> > kinds of Swiss honey (dandelion, forest and rape), pollen of

compositae

> > species, celery tuber, extract of bee pharyngeal glands, honey bee

> > venom and bee whole body extract. The results show that 3/4 of

> > honey-allergics are sensitive to dandelion honey and 13 of 22 also to

> > compositae pollen. Nine of the honey allergic patients were

sensitized

> > to honey bee venom, 3 also to bee pharyngeal glands and to bee whole

> > body extract. Analysis of diagnostic tests and RAST inhibition

studies

> > suggest that besides compositae pollen other allergens, most likely

of

> > bee origin are important. In honey allergics primary sensitization

may

> > be due either to the honey itself, to airborne compositae pollen or

> > even to cross-reacting bee venom components.

> >

>

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Cinnamon & HoneyWhoever Thought Honey is the only food on the planet that will not spoil or rot. Itwill do what some call turning to sugar. In reality honey is alwayshoney. However, when left in a cool dark place for a long time it willdo what I rather call "crystallizing" When this happens I loosen thelid, boil some water, and sit the honey container in the hot water,turn off the heat and let it liquefy. It is then as good as it everwas. Never boil honey or put it in a microwave. To do so will kill theenzymes in the honey.Cinnamon and Honey

Bet the drug companies won't like this one getting around. Facts onHoney and Cinnamon: It is found that a mixture of honey and Cinnamoncures most diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of theworld. Scientists of today also accept honey as a 'Ram Ban' (veryeffective) medicine for all kinds of diseases. Honey can be usedwithout any side effects for any kind of diseases.Today's science says that even though honey is sweet, if taken in theright dosage as a medicine, it does not harm diabetic patients. WeeklyWorld News, a magazine in Canada , in its issue dated 17 January,1995has given the following list of diseases that can be cured by honeyand cinnamon as researched by western scientists:HEART DISEASES:Make a paste of honey and cinnamon powder, apply on bread, instead ofjelly and jam, and eat it regularly for breakfast. It reduces

thecholesterol in the arteries and saves the patient from heart attack.Also, those who have already had an attack, if they do this processdaily, they are kept miles away from the next attack.. Regular use ofthe above process relieves loss of breath and strengthens the heartbeat. In America and Canada , various nursing homes have treatedpatients successfully and have found that as you age, the arteries andveins lose their flexibility and get clogged; honey and cinnamonrevitalize the arteries and veins.ARTHRITIS:Arthritis patients may take daily, morning and night, one cup of hotwater with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinnamonpowder. If taken regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In arecent research conducted at the Copenhagen University, it was foundthat when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of onetablespoon Honey and half teaspoon Cinnamon powder

before breakfast,they found that within a week, out of the 200 people so treated,practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain, and within amonth, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move aroundbecause of arthritis started walking without pain.BLADDER INFECTIONS:Take two tablespoons of cinnamon powder and one teaspoon of honey in aglass of lukewarm water and drink it. It destroys the germs in thebladder..CHOLESTEROL:Two tablespoons of honey and three teaspoons of Cinnamon Powder mixedin 16 ounces of tea water, given to a cholesterol patient, was foundto reduce the level of cholesterol in the blood by 10 percent withintwo hours As mentioned for arthritic patients, if taken three times aday, any chronic cholesterol is cured. According to informationreceived in the said Journal, pure honey taken with food dailyrelieves complaints of cholesterol.COLDS:Those

suffering from common or severe colds should take one tablespoonlukewarm honey with 1/4 spoon cinnamon powder daily for three days.This process will cure most chronic cough, cold, and clear thesinuses.UPSET STOMACH:Honey taken with cinnamon powder cures stomach ache and also clearsstomach ulcers from the root.GAS:According to the studies done in India and Japan , it is revealed thatif Honey is taken with cinnamon powder the stomach is relieved of gas.IMMUNE SYSTEM:Daily use of honey and cinnamon powder strengthens the immune systemand protects the body from bacteria and viral attacks. Scientists havefound that honey has various vitamins and iron in large amounts.Constant use of Honey strengthens the white blood corpuscles to fightbacterial andviral diseases.INDIGESTION:Cinnamon powder sprinkled on two tablespoons of honey taken beforefood relieves acidity and digests

the heaviest of meals.INFLUENZA:A scientist in Spain has proved that honey contains a natural 'Ingredient' which kills the influenza germs and saves the patient fromflu.LONGEVITY:Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly, arreststhe ravages of old age. Take four spoons of honey, one spoon ofcinnamon powder, and three cups of water and boil to make like tea.Drink 1/4 cup, three to four times a day. It keeps the skin fresh andsoft and arrests old age. Life spans also increase and even a 100 yearold, starts performing the chores of a 20-year-old..PIMPLES:Three tablespoons of honey and one teaspoon of cinnamon powder paste.Apply this paste on the pimples before sleeping and wash it nextmorning with warm water. If done daily for two weeks, it removespimples from the root.SKIN INFECTIONS:Applying honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts on the

affectedparts cures eczema, ringworm and all types of skin infections.WEIGHT LOSS:Daily in the morning one half hour before breakfast on an emptystomach, and at night before sleeping, drink honey and cinnamon powderboiled in one cup of water. If taken regularly, it reduces the weightof even the most obese person. Also, drinking this mixture regularlydoes not allow the fat to accumulate in the body even though theperson may eat a high calorie diet.CANCER:Recent research in Japan and Australia has revealed that advancedcancer of the stomach and bones have been cured successfully. Patientssuffering from these kinds of cancer should daily take one tablespoonof honey with one teaspoon of cinnamon powder for one month threetimes a day.FATIGUE:Recent studies have shown that the sugar content of honey is morehelpful rather than being detrimental to the strength of the

body.Senior citizens, who take honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts,are more alert and flexible. Dr. Milton, who has done research, saysthat a half tablespoon of honey taken in a glass of water andsprinkled with cinnamon powder, taken daily after brushing and in theafternoon at about 3:00 P.M. when the vitality of the body starts todecrease, increases the vitality of the body within a week.BAD BREATH:People of South America , first thing in the morning, gargle with oneteaspoon of honey and cinnamon powder mixed in hot water, so theirbreath stays fresh throughout the day.HEARING LOSS:Daily morning and night honey and cinnamon powder, taken in equalparts restores hearing. Remember when we were kids? We had toast withreal butter and cinnamon sprinkled on it!You might want to share this information with a friend, kinfolks andloved ones. Everyone needs healthy help information ~

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