Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. I suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to go on living with these terrible feelings. It hurts so much to watch him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated. Pam > > > In a message dated 8/16/2008 9:35:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > leanna@... writes: > > anyone have any ideas/helpful hints on dealing with an AS who is on Paxil? > My husband is on Paxil and while it makes him calmer.....it provides its own > set of problems. I feel like we are doomed and we have only been married a year > and a half. > > Leanna > > Leanna, > Hello and welcome. My husband, AS is not on Paxil, but as a younger person it > had been recommended that he get on it. His mother opted against it. I have a > good relationship with her and can ask her about this. I will do that and get > back to you. I've asked my husband and he doesn't remember why it was > suggested or why his mom said no thanks. He has struggled and continues to struggle > with some anxiety. However, over the years he's come up with ways to combat > them without medication. It doesn't work all the time, but then again nothing > does. However, he manages to function and have a full life. > > I'll remember to ask his mom when I speak with her about the Paxil issue. I > should be speaking with her sometime later today or tomorrow. > > Hang in there, > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review? ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 pamdan2002 wrote: > My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. I Please read: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam> ....especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous. If you don't like Wikipedia's take, go to other, professional sources and do your own research. Clonazapam and its ilk are *not* benign! Then talk to a qualified medical person about getting him OFF that stuff. Carefully and maybe slowly: Withdrawal symptoms aren't nice either. > suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming > more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel > him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our > doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience > with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and > that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to > go on living with these terrible feelings. His words and feelings are among those cited as side effects and as a hazard of using that drug and those like it. > It hurts so much to watch > him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated. > Pam Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask NTs. Find out how many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at all. Come ON people - speak up! I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take myself off_. - Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person. -- WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 i am not a qualified medical person either. but i have taken zoplicaine to help me for a bout of insomnia about 6 years ago. i found that i became very rapidly refractory to it ( immune) and needed more to induce the same effect. i quickly recognised this and stopped taking them. i didnt want to be a person who took an "accidentla" overdose of sleeping tablets. i too am on no current medication. i have a psychologist who studied under lorna wing ( who re-discovered Aspergers and translated it into english) and she claims that a lot of anti-psychotic meds for AS individuals tend to cause more psychosis and related problems than no meds. she also claims she isnt a psychiatrist and a psychiatrist cannot diagnose Aspergers ( or is relustant to do so in the Uk, preferring to send you to a psychologist). so AS, meds and advice. whatever the med, ask the prescribing clinician if the drug has an affect on AS individuals that may not be apparent in non-As individuals, the answer wil be " i dunno" not for any other reason that there havent been enough studies done ascertain this, apart from empirical data my psychologist has passed on to me through her experience with Lorna Wing which i pass on to you. Doctors dont feel cofnident enough to prescibe drugs for AS, psychologists cant, and psychiatrists can, but cant diagnose AS. there is a large gap in knowledge here. what does one do? proceed cautiously. advice gained through the internet is based on individuals experiences and soem meds may work for some, quite well. 36 m diagnosed AS. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Bill wrote > Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask > NTs. Find out how > many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at > all. > > Come ON people - speak up! > > I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take > myself off_. My AS does not participate on this list, but has said repeatedly to me and his doctor that lexapro is a godsend for calming the anxiety caused by his numerous and overwhelming sensory issues. He also takes adderall for ADD. He says the meds do not make him less like himself, but reduce the overwhelming anxiety and chatter that runs through his brain every minute of the day. Prior to seeing a doctor, he spent about a couple of months self-medicating w/ St. 's Wort and another product whose name I don't recall; he'd done a lot of reading about those and was convinced they would help and that he wouldn't need a doctor. The doctor put him on Wellbutrin and the occasional Xanax. In those cases, the side-effects he experienced: rage, high blood pressure, mood swings, spaceyness, etc. were not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Pam, I agree with what Bill said. Please do your own research. Many people are worse off after taking these drugs. And many are dead from it too. When a patient doesn't improve or gets worse, what do doctors usually do? They prescribe a higher dosage and/or prescribe more drugs. Some people are too trusting of what their doctor recommends and prescribes. I always research the doctor's recommendation and then make up my own mind. I also never take a new drug. The pharmaceuticals do not publicize the side effects until it becomes so prevalent that they must do this. Good luck. Verleen > > My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. I > > Please read: > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam> > > ...especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side > effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous. > > If you don't like Wikipedia's take, go to other, professional sources > and do your own research. Clonazapam and its ilk are *not* benign! > > Then talk to a qualified medical person about getting him OFF that > stuff. Carefully and maybe slowly: Withdrawal symptoms aren't nice either. > > > suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming > > more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel > > him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our > > doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience > > with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and > > that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to > > go on living with these terrible feelings. > > His words and feelings are among those cited as side effects and as a > hazard of using that drug and those like it. > > > It hurts so much to watch > > him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated. > > Pam > > Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask NTs. Find out how > many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at all. > > Come ON people - speak up! > > I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take myself off_. > > - Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person. > > -- > WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA > http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 , its always interesting to see how different people react to the same treatment. My AS husband refuses to ever take any of the psychotopic medications and he is in the medical field, as well as my daughter and two uncles who were MDs. He had chronic, moderate depression and anxiety. I did some research and gave him some information on St. 's Wort. He began taking it. In about a week, there was a dramatic improvement in him. People that he works with noticed it too. My daughter, who didn't know he was taking it, remarked on how cheery and more calm and talkative he was lately. He stopped taking it and only resumes it when he feels the need. After a couple years of taking it, he is mostly not needing it for the past 8 years or so. If he had severe depression, I'm not sure if the St. 's Wort would work as well. Verleen > > Bill wrote > > Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask > > NTs. Find out how > > many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at > > all. > > > > Come ON people - speak up! > > > > I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take > > myself off_. > > > My AS does not participate on this list, but has said repeatedly to me and his doctor that lexapro is a godsend for calming the anxiety caused by his numerous and overwhelming sensory issues. He also takes adderall for ADD. He says the meds do not make him less like himself, but reduce the overwhelming anxiety and chatter that runs through his brain every minute of the day. > > Prior to seeing a doctor, he spent about a couple of months self- medicating w/ St. 's Wort and another product whose name I don't recall; he'd done a lot of reading about those and was convinced they would help and that he wouldn't need a doctor. The doctor put him on Wellbutrin and the occasional Xanax. In those cases, the side- effects he experienced: rage, high blood pressure, mood swings, spaceyness, etc. were not worth it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hello.. I am Dx AS female 43 years old.. I am on clonazepam and several other medications. These have been prescribed so that I can slow down my thought processes and behave more "normal". I now live without a partner but I do live with 4 children with Autism. The community has viewed me as Odd and Different and therefore have put a negative "label" on me and my household. I want to be heard..I want to be a voice for my children.. I want to feel loved..but I also want to BE ME but how can I help my children if I can not look "normal". It is so very hard for me and I really do not understand why people can not be more accepting of differences. My own mother has often asked me to shut up.."I talk to much,I think to deeply " she said.She does not understand the ME that is able to use words to communicate. I do wish I had someone to help me understand. I have reached for medical help because I do not know where else to go to try to be understood. I have to be functioning 24 hours a day in order to meet the needs of my children. I am concerned about my medications but who do I trust to help me make decisions ? I am glad this topic has come up with this group. Marj Re: Re: Meds? Any advice? pamdan2002 wrote:> My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. IPlease read:<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam>...especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous.If you don't like Wikipedia's take, go to other, professional sources and do your own research. Clonazapam and its ilk are *not* benign!Then talk to a qualified medical person about getting him OFF that stuff. Carefully and maybe slowly: Withdrawal symptoms aren't nice either.> suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming > more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel > him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our > doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience > with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and > that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to > go on living with these terrible feelings.His words and feelings are among those cited as side effects and as a hazard of using that drug and those like it.> It hurts so much to watch > him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated.> PamBeg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask NTs. Find out how many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at all.Come ON people - speak up!I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take myself off_.- Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person.-- WD "Bill" Loughman - Berkeley, California USAhttp://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hi Marjory,] I would hate to be in your shoes. I have worn ones that are a bit similar, though youappear to have it much tougher. have you tried a few of the websites I am on where i get a bit of support? I am not on any medication except for high blood pressure and cholesterol, but would never want my mental state altered. I have a high IQ, and hve been told by some typcical people (though not for awhile!) that I overthink things. Since I also happen to be a teacher and have studied learning styles, I understood what they were talking about- but only after learning, in July of 2007 (when I self-dx-ed), that I am AS as well. I have a cognitive learning style, and ony recently, after "working out" on Simon Baron-Cohen's software to learn to recognize facial emotion, have I been able to pick up people's facial e xpressions without being cognitively aware of it. So, the few people who act ignorantly like that towards me and indicate that thinking is somehow bad, I tell that I learn cognitively, musically, mathematically, and verbally (my verbal memory is 99th percentile or higher, according to the IQ test that went with my formal eval and AS dx this last March), and that I am not a visual learner, but I really respect their visual andd interpersonal strength, and please share! Those who get to know me soon realize that I like taking the perspective of others to the degtree that I can, but I am far from perfect. They think that having to search for the name of a feeling (I still cannot name the more complex ones all the time, though I can name quite a few), and defining it in words rather than just saying I feel that, is being too analytical. So, I have to ask them for the name of the feeling-- or ask them how they would feel in a parallel situation, being careful to re-create it with the same components. (This can be hard, since I am not typical.) When I succeed, and after spending time on ASpires, I succeed a lot more often, we ake a connection, and then they feel good. There are some mindblind NTs who need to makle the decision to have a bit of cross-cultural communication, and until they do, I just deal with them a little bit, when needed. This is their error, and not yours. One example of a mis-communication I had only a couple months ago was in a professional develop[ment class I took, where the teacher defined something by example. She referenced rearranging the furniture around the TV set, so that the people would face one another, to get them to talk more. I took that to be making it awkward to see the TV, because one would have to turn one's neck. She meant that making eye contct with another person would induce conversation. I finallyt figured that out, about three weeks later. I did not even know I needed to ask! In that instance, I did not want to tell her I am AS, but un inderstanding the types of differences in communication that exist, I did know I had to learn to ask for clarification. (A seminar speaker told me that one!) So, I took to asking for clarification whenever something was defined by example, even iof that meant asking if a different example worked as well, to make sure I am right about the intent. I do not hvae the memories of an NT, and even with my excellent long-term memory, I really cannot remember feeling empathy as a child before the ange of 13. It was never there. Websitres I promised: Try autistic treehouse, ANI-L, ladies aspergers journal, ASN-Discussion. All of tese websites are autistic members only, adn the last is directed at rights, self-advocacy, and politics. If you see something you do not agree with, don't worry: we are distributed over a wide range of opinions, but on these sites, you will not see anyone who is a "curbie"- none of us believe in fircing change upon someone to make that person fit in, and then declaring him or her "cured"! The one thing you will get is understanding, and a wealth of ideas for specific situations- some might even work! If you have trouble in finding any of these websites, do write me off-list. There are even more, but these are a start, and will at least let you know that you have friends. I have gained a great deal from this website, ASPIRES, and recommend it to lots of people, too- but them, you are here! > My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. IPlease read:<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Clonazepam>...especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous.If you don't like Wikipedia's take, go to other, professional sources and do your own research. Clonazapam and its ilk are *not* benign!Then talk to a qualified medical person about getting him OFF that stuff. Carefully and maybe slowly: Withdrawal symptoms aren't nice either.> suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming > more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel > him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our > doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience > with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and > that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to > go on living with these terrible feelings.His words and feelings are among those cited as side effects and as a hazard of using that drug and those like it.> It hurts so much to watch > him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated.> PamBeg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask NTs. Find out how many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at all.Come ON people - speak up!I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take myself off_.- Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person.-- WD "Bill" Loughman - Berkeley, California USAhttp://home. earthlink. net/~wdloughman/ wdl.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Verleen, I do not have depression or anxiety, but have heard that niacin can help with depression or at least emotional somthing- or-other (sorry- my lack of precision!). It is an old family tradition on my mother's side to eat certain things like wheat germ and brewer's yeast to maintain good emotinal health. I did find that they helped emotional control to a certain exptent, though I have not been treated for depression. Subject: Re: Meds? Any advice?To: aspires-relationships Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 9:27 AM , its always interesting to see how different people react to the same treatment. My AS husband refuses to ever take any of the psychotopic medications and he is in the medical field, as well as my daughter and two uncles who were MDs. He had chronic, moderate depression and anxiety. I did some research and gave him some information on St. 's Wort. He began taking it. In about a week, there was a dramatic improvement in him. People that he works with noticed it too. My daughter, who didn't know he was taking it, remarked on how cheery and more calm and talkative he was lately. He stopped taking it and only resumes it when he feels the need. After a couple years of taking it, he is mostly not needing it for the past 8 years or so. If he had severe depression, I'm not sure if the St. 's Wort would work as well. Verleen>> Bill wrote> > Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask> > NTs. Find out how > > many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at> > all.> > > > Come ON people - speak up!> > > > I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take> > myself off_.> > > My AS does not participate on this list, but has said repeatedly to me and his doctor that lexapro is a godsend for calming the anxiety caused by his numerous and overwhelming sensory issues. He also takes adderall for ADD. He says the meds do not make him less like himself, but reduce the overwhelming anxiety and chatter that runs through his brain every minute of the day.> > Prior to seeing a doctor, he spent about a couple of months self-medicating w/ St. 's Wort and another product whose name I don't recall; he'd done a lot of reading about those and was convinced they would help and that he wouldn't need a doctor. The doctor put him on Wellbutrin and the occasional Xanax. In those cases, the side-effects he experienced: rage, high blood pressure, mood swings, spaceyness, etc. were not worth it.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Marj, My heart goes out to you. I wish you had someone to advocate for you. And having four children is a tremendous responsibility that requires so much energy. I don't know how you do it. My husband can thank me for being an advocate for him and for reaching out and trying to get him the help that he is unwilling or not capable of finding. He is very misunderstood my nearly everyone - friends, family, neighbors - and often disliked or avoided. It is rare anymore for me to invite anyone to our home. It's sad. And over the last few years it has continued to get worse. He refuses opportunities to associate with people like church groups, going out for lunch or dinner with friends, even talking on the phone. He's very much alone, but doesn't seem to care about the loneliness. He used to self-medicate with alcohol and at least that has stopped now that he takes the medication. So he's more coherent now, but still just as difficult to communicate with. At least with you, it seems that you would enjoy more social opportunities. I hope that somehow you find a support group that can help you. I will report back on the med question after I talk to my husband's doctor (hopefully this week). Bill's note got my attention and I want to find something for my husband that is safer and more effective. God bless, Pam > > My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. I > > Please read: > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam> > > ...especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side > effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous. > > If you don't like Wikipedia's take, go to other, professional sources > and do your own research. Clonazapam and its ilk are *not* benign! > > Then talk to a qualified medical person about getting him OFF that > stuff. Carefully and maybe slowly: Withdrawal symptoms aren't nice either. > > > suspect that he has built up a tolerance for it and he is becoming > > more depressed and anxious and has a lot of nervousness (I can feel > > him shaking inside when I hug him). I plan to discuss this with our > > doctor, but thought I'd ask if others in the group have experience > > with this med or other meds. My husband says he feels hopeless and > > that he is condemned to living like this forever and doesn't want to > > go on living with these terrible feelings. > > His words and feelings are among those cited as side effects and as a > hazard of using that drug and those like it. > > > It hurts so much to watch > > him struggling every day. Any advice is much appreciated. > > Pam > > Beg, plead, with the **AS** on this List. Don't ask NTs. Find out how > many of **us** are on a psychoactive drug - any sort at all. > > Come ON people - speak up! > > I am not. Never have been. _If I were, I'd take myself off_. > > - Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person. > > -- > WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA > http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Thank you Marj for responding. *Your story in particular* just has to help others understand WHY psychotropics might be prescribed to AS. Reading between the lines may go further, helping ANYone understand something about Risks and Benefits. Marjory Maley wrote: > Hello.. > > I am Dx AS female 43 years old.. > > I am on clonazepam and several other medications. These have been > prescribed so that I can slow down my thought processes and behave more > " normal " . NOT criticizing here! One view of this is that *your* prescription might help *others* as much as or more than it might benefit *you*. ....That should be thought-provoking. " ...More 'normal' " is an NT definition. There's a large body of evidence, and a very large world-wide AS community, which takes exception to that definition. I take exception. But see my comments further below. > I now live without a partner but I do live with 4 children > with Autism. You've got my sympathies, probably everyone else's as well. This just *has to be hard* on you and your kids. I assume they're yours. [Outta line here am I: We're talking about you, not your kids. BUT, are they medicated too? How are *they* doing? What's *your* opinion of the worth (success/failure) of those meds?] > The community has viewed me as Odd and Different and > therefore have put a negative " label " on me and my household. Probably every AS throughout all time has been called " Odd and Different " . I was, ...all my long life; and still. Yet over time I learned how to " compensate " - and so never was given the negative label. Rather the other way 'round. My friends and employers see my oddities, especially my *perspectives*, as useful, ...even valuable. But I grew up in a different Place, in a *very* different Time. To that extent I was very, very lucky. Unfortunately for all AS, that Time is long gone. Replaced by something less kind, less forgiving, and much more prone to *pathologizing* (and medicating) behavior differences. > I want to > be heard..I want to be a voice for my children.. I want to feel > loved..but I also want to BE ME but how can I help my children if I can > not look " normal " . The " quickie " answer is to BE YOU! But often that " doesn't work " : Not everyone, any more, lives in communities where " YOU " might be tolerated. This is the CLASSIC problem all AS, all of *us* will face, *must* face. Actually, How To Do It is the really, really classic problem. That varies enormously from person to person, and situation to situation. There's no One Rule to follow; though general guidelines can be given. Many have been given on ASPIRES; most are useful. > It is so very hard for me and I really do not > understand why people can not be more accepting of differences. My own > mother has often asked me to shut up.. " I talk to much,I think to > deeply " she said. Heh. *My* mother said the very same thing, plenty of times. My wives including Herself in my present (finally now 'successful') marriage often said/say the same. Here too I've compensated, adapted. > She does not understand the ME that is able to use > words to communicate. I do wish I had someone to help me understand. Reciprocal communication problems: the _sine qua non_ diagnostic criterion for the entire autism-spectrum. It's here, in ASPIRES, you may find more help than anywhere else online. It will come slowly, and you'll make many revisions to your thinking, even reversals. Stick with it; it takes TIME. > I > have reached for medical help because I do not know where else to go to > try to be understood. Medical help may in fact be a good thing. I've no quarrel at all with that concept. But maybe not for ALL people, ALL the time. As Joan Rivers famously reminded us: " Not all doctors got 'A's in medical school! " > I have to be functioning 24 hours a day in order > to meet the needs of my children. I am concerned about my medications > but who do I trust to help me make decisions ? I'm a *strong believer* that all advice, especially " professional " advice MUST be filtered through *one's own* common sense. One *MUST* be involved in one's own " treatment " . _Inform yourself_ by *lots* of searching and reading and asking questions. You could do a lot worse than starting your questions here, on ASPIRES. There are quite few hereon, including AS, with strong professional backgrounds. You'll not likely get Professional Advice - too risky for the adviser. But you may get *wise* advice filtered through the appropriate " professional perspective " . That is what I tried to do with Clonazepam: Raise a users' awareness; urge them to *themselves* weigh benefits and risks; to *be involved*. > I am glad this topic has come up with this group. > > Marj > > * Re: Re: Meds? Any advice? > > pamdan2002 wrote: > > My AS husband has been taking Clonazapam for a couple years. I > > Please read: > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam> > > ...especially the parts about long-term use (inadvisable) and side > effects (which *I* wouldn't want). Some are downright dangerous. [ snip ] > - Bill, 76, AS; ...who is NOT a qualified medical person. - Bill, 76, AS; ...STILL NOT a qualified *medical* person. -- WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Even with people who aren't suppose to be taking certain kinds of meds. Was online earlier today reading about how some women in Hollywood will take Adderall XR (a stimulant to control ADD) to lose weight. That's a sure way of some potential health problems. Not to mention the possible addiction of such drugs. > > Pam, I agree with what Bill said. Please do your own research. > Many people are worse off after taking these drugs. And many are > dead from it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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