Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for advice

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Nadiya and Roman,

Are these just food reactions you have noticed? You said you had not done

any of the tests but it sounds like you know that your son is more reactive

to some than other foods, so is this based on an IgG food test?

There are many physicians who feel that the IgG food test is a good measure

of intestinal permeability, because the immunoglobulins that are produced

inside the gut should be IgA, the immunoglobulin that protects mucus

membranes. IgG instead protects the blood. Developing IgG allergies

suggests that the food proteins which are inspiring the immune response

must be getting past the intestinal barrier and getting into the blood,

provoking the IgG response. If this is happening, then you are likely to

develop allergies to whatever you are eating, and when you change what you

are eating, you will likely develop immunoglobulins against those foods,

too, so it is like chasing your tail. The trick is to figure out what is

provoking the leaky gut, and try to fix that. A lot of people find a

benefit to rotating the foods so that you have a few days in between

exposures, and that helps calm down the immune response.

I wanted you to know that there may be something that could backfire with

some of these foods that are left because they are extremely high oxalate,

like kiwi, quinoa, potatoes, and bean flour. If you have intestinal

permeability, their oxalate would be absorbed and it can cause problems to

the rest of the body and maybe even the brain. I don't know if you've

heard about the low oxalate diet, but you can get information on it from

www.lowoxalate.info and there also is a yahoogroup for support.

One of our listmates on that support group wrote this recently, speaking of

using the diet for her daughter, who does not have autism, but has chronic

fatigue, but it shows that for some people, the low oxalate diet does seem

to close the leaky gut and reduce food allergies:

NT DAUGHTER, age 15 (16 now), with fatigue

* Significant and permanent improvement in energy

If oxalates go up too much in the diet once again, I have seen:

weight loss

acne

pain in various places in her body, including feet

* Closed leaky gut using LOD and calcium before meals and VSL#3. This took

about 5 months. My daugther was absolutely THRILLED! No more immune

reactions to foods! Can eat gluten (some, but grains are oxalate) and

casein (some) now, without immediate problems.

Nadiya and Roman, you would be certainly welcome to subscribe to

Trying_Low_Oxalates and do a search in the archives on what

parents have said changed regarding food allergies and food intolerances

for those on LOD.

There is a mini-chapter on Low Oxalate in the most recent version of CSB....

At 10:39 PM 12/21/2007, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

>always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

>and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies –

>there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to green

>vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

>meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white rice

>but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

>He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

>complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

>IV, zinc, idebenone.

>

>We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor yet.

>

>- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it because

>of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

>reduce these allergies?

>

>- What our next steps in his treatment?

>

>Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

>Thanks for all the support!

>Nadiya and Roman

>

>

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[Guest guest]

One year ago we had the same questions, not only about rise, but with

other food too. That was many products that our daughter could not

take. You have all these necessary nutritional with supplements and

that can help you to eliminate all food which your child is allergic

to. After 6 month you can introduce back some products carefully and

if you won't get bad result, they can stay. But you need to do that

gradually type one time per week to see impact clearly. With best

regards Tamara

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

,

We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Nadiya and Roman

>

> >Hi all,

> >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies –

> >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

green

> >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

rice

> >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> >

> >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

yet.

> >

> >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

because

> >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> >reduce these allergies?

> >

> >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> >

> >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> >Thanks for all the support!

> >Nadiya and Roman

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Nadiya and Roman,

I'm sure that was frustrating that putting him on a diet that is supposed

to get him better provoked a new problem! Sometimes, when people are going

g/f c/f, they introduce a lot more high oxalate foods than what was being

eaten before. Back when I started me and my daughter on g/f c/f about

thirteen years ago, there weren't very many manufactured products

available, so if we didn't cook things by scratch, we just did without. I

think a lot of us oldies did not end up introducing higher oxalate foods in

other grains and in things like rice milk, soy milk, almond milk, etc.

We have had some children get over eczema with low oxalate, so it is

possible, I guess, that oxalate could be the culprit. What foods did he

stop eating, and what foods did he start eating when you went g/f c/f?

I think you probably do need a doctor to get an IgG test.

Here are a few resources on rotation diets:

http://www.food-allergy.org/rotation.html

http://www.parentsofallergicchildren.org/rotation.htm

http://www.specialfoods.com/rotationdietexample.html warning: many of the

foods they mention are extremely high oxalate! Please check against the

lists at lowoxalate.info.

You do have to be careful to not load up on oxalates on certain days the

way some rotation diets are designed.

I hope this isn't confusing! There are people on Trying_Low_Oxalates who

have done rotation diets and tried to keep oxalates low, too. Please feel

free to join and consult with them on how they did it!

I hope this helps,

At 11:38 PM 12/22/2007, you wrote:

>Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

>

>,

>We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

>sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

>stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

>go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

>bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

>GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

>

>We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

>DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

>

>How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

>

>You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

>more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

>food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

>

>We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

>

>Looking forward to hearing from you.

>

>Nadiya and Roman

>

>

> >

> > >Hi all,

> > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies –

> > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

>green

> > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

>rice

> > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > >

> > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

>yet.

> > >

> > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

>because

> > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > >reduce these allergies?

> > >

> > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > >

> > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > >Thanks for all the support!

> > >Nadiya and Roman

> > >

> > >

> >

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> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Nadiya and Roman,

You do need a doctor to order IgG test. We get our from

Metametrix. The result comes with a personalized 4-day rotation diet

(but not GFCF). Basically you are not to give your child the same

food within 4 days. Don't worry, eventually you will be able to come

up with a weekly meal schedule. Since you will introduce new fodds

along the way you might need another IgG like we do to see if there

are other foods in the diet that are offending.

Sheila

> > >

> > > >Hi all,

> > > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who

has

> > > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started

GF/CF/SF

> > > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden

allergies –

> > > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> >green

> > > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean

flour,

> > > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> >rice

> > > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-

Complete/DPP-

> > > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > > >

> > > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> >yet.

> > > >

> > > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> >because

> > > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do

to

> > > >reduce these allergies?

> > > >

> > > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > > >

> > > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > > >Thanks for all the support!

> > > >Nadiya and Roman

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

l-glutamine will help heal the gut if you think it's just a gut reaction CAUSING

the reactions which would be things like bloating and or diareah. treating

yeast and or bacteria issues will help to do that as well. if it's skin

reactions then working on the immune system will help. lDN helped our son get

rid of 22 allergies, he had TONS of them. if you can't do soy make sure your

CLO is only from kirkmans as they are the only soy free one I have found. have

you tried amaranth, and or buckwheat. and millet. for OTHER flours you may want

to look at teff, as well. nuworld amaranth has cereal and flat breads you could

do, and ponoco has a got ceareal, can he do pork? have you tried buffalo,

lamb, venison ect.??

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5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for advice

Hi all,

We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to green

vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white rice

but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

IV, zinc, idebenone.

We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor yet.

- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it because

of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

reduce these allergies?

- What our next steps in his treatment?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all the support!

Nadiya and Roman

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our DAN suggests ALLETESS labs for IGG testing, you can call and order the kit

and then ask your ped to sign off on it. it's like 113 dollars for 98 foods.

what I mean on rotation is take what he is NOT allergic to and rotate so you

don't develope NEW allergies. for example

day 1 chicken, broccoli, blackberries, corn, quinoa

day 2 pork, rice, asperigus and pears

day 3 turkey, cranberries, cucumbers, potates

day 3, beef, carrots and colored peppers, and amaranth and beans

Recovering from Autism is a marathon

NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

Read more about it on my Blogs at

http://www.myspace.com/christelking

Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for advice

Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

,

We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Nadiya and Roman

>

> >Hi all,

> >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

green

> >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

rice

> >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> >

> >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

yet.

> >

> >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

because

> >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> >reduce these allergies?

> >

> >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> >

> >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> >Thanks for all the support!

> >Nadiya and Roman

> >

> >

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree, with the rotation, however, everything that you have written down

my lil guy will not eat. I can now get chicken into him, and the only other

things on your list that he will eat or is not allergic to is: pears,

potatoes, carrots. He does eat Trader Joe's hot-dogs too.

Judy

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> our DAN suggests ALLETESS labs for IGG testing, you can call and order the

> kit and then ask your ped to sign off on it. it's like 113 dollars for 98

> foods. what I mean on rotation is take what he is NOT allergic to and

> rotate so you don't develope NEW allergies. for example

>

> day 1 chicken, broccoli, blackberries, corn, quinoa

> day 2 pork, rice, asperigus and pears

> day 3 turkey, cranberries, cucumbers, potates

> day 3, beef, carrots and colored peppers, and amaranth and beans

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my Blogs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

> advice

>

>

> Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

>

> ,

> We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

> sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

> stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

> go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

> bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

> GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

>

> We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

> DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

>

> How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

>

> You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

> more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

> food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

>

> We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from you.

>

> Nadiya and Roman

>

>

> >

> > >Hi all,

> > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> green

> > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> rice

> > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > >

> > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> yet.

> > >

> > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> because

> > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > >reduce these allergies?

> > >

> > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > >

> > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > >Thanks for all the support!

> > >Nadiya and Roman

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ----------

> >

> >

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don't think traders joe's hot dogs are gfsfcf are they?? we don't have one but

I have never seen them mentioned as safe on group. if so that may be why he

won't take those other foods. kids limit when they get g,s,or c. you don't

have to eat those items, add in 4 veggies he WILL do, 4 fruits he WILL do

(perferabley NON yeast feeding ones like pears, blackberries, blueberries,

raspberries, and or cranberries for starting out) 4 meats he WILL do, ect then

assign one to each day. if you need more ideas for those things let me know and

I can list some out. oh and same for the the gf grains

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Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

> advice

>

>

> Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

>

> ,

> We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

> sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

> stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

> go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

> bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

> GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

>

> We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

> DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

>

> How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

>

> You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

> more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

> food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

>

> We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from you.

>

> Nadiya and Roman

>

>

> >

> > >Hi all,

> > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> green

> > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> rice

> > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > >

> > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> yet.

> > >

> > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> because

> > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > >reduce these allergies?

> > >

> > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > >

> > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > >Thanks for all the support!

> > >Nadiya and Roman

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ----------

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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Judy,

We, too, had the Aletess IgG done. The rotation pattern came back

totally different for my daughter - built around her sensitivities as

it is foreach person. Some of the foods I had no clue about; some, I

knew provoked negative responses. It took out over 42 items from her

diet including many favorites, but it also allowed foods to which I

thought she responded. We've found a few items on the allowed lists

that she does not tolerate but, overall, it has given her a more

varied diet. Abd symptoms are markedly down. Her IgA which has been

unmeasurable for more than 10 years is on the rise. She protested but

does honor it. I think it makes her feel much better.

> > >

> > > >Hi all,

> > > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who

has

> > > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started

GF/CF/SF

> > > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden

allergies -

> > > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> > green

> > > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean

flour,

> > > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him

brown/white

> > rice

> > > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C,

B-

> > > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-

Complete/DPP-

> > > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > > >

> > > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN!

doctor

> > yet.

> > > >

> > > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> > because

> > > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can

do to

> > > >reduce these allergies?

> > > >

> > > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > > >

> > > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > > >Thanks for all the support!

> > > >Nadiya and Roman

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

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> > 9/23/2007 1:53 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

from the pkg. of Trader Joe's hot-dogs:

All natural All beef Uncured Hot-dogs, no nitrates, or nitrites added except

for naturally occurring nitrates in celery juice and sea salt. No fillers,

gluten free, no MSg, no added antibiotics, or hormones.

beef, water, contains less than 2% of the following , allspice, celery juice

powder, evap. cane juice garlic powder, ginger, honey, lactic acid starter

culture, mustard, nutmeg, onion powder, paprika, pepper, sea salt

they are pretty tasty...............

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For veggies, he came out a 4 on the test for corn. So, the only other

veggie he will eat is carrots, and sometimes home made French fries, and he

came out with a 1 for them. I do sneak spinach and broccoli into the

batter for making his chicken tenders.

Fruits:

pears and apples, and mandarin oranges is the only fruit he will eat. He

eats mostly pears over all of them.

Meats:

chicken, hot-dogs, Boarshead roast beef slices, breakfast sausages, and

sometimes I can get him to eat buffalo meat if I roll it into a breakfast

sausage appearance. That is it for his diet.

His tests came back with allergic to wheat, corn, dairy, soy, garlic,

peanut, and rice. So, now I have to find a mix or recipe for a good tasting

bread w/o any of those ingredients above.

Thanks,

Judy

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> don't think traders joe's hot dogs are gfsfcf are they?? we don't have

> one but I have never seen them mentioned as safe on group. if so that may

> be why he won't take those other foods. kids limit when they get g,s,or

> c. you don't have to eat those items, add in 4 veggies he WILL do, 4

> fruits he WILL do (perferabley NON yeast feeding ones like pears,

> blackberries, blueberries, raspberries, and or cranberries for starting

> out) 4 meats he WILL do, ect then assign one to each day. if you need

> more ideas for those things let me know and I can list some out. oh and

> same for the the gf grains

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my Blogs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

> > advice

> >

> >

> > Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

> >

> > ,

> > We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

> > sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

> > stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

> > go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

> > bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

> > GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

> >

> > We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

> > DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

> >

> > How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

> >

> > You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

> > more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

> > food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

> >

> > We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

> >

> > Looking forward to hearing from you.

> >

> > Nadiya and Roman

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >Hi all,

> > > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> > > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> > green

> > > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> > rice

> > > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > > >

> > > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> > yet.

> > > >

> > > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> > because

> > > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > > >reduce these allergies?

> > > >

> > > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > > >

> > > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > > >Thanks for all the support!

> > > >Nadiya and Roman

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ----------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.

> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date:

> > 9/23/2007 1:53 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

doesn't say casein free, and there is lactic acid starter culture which can be

milk, usually if it's not it will state that...

Recovering from Autism is a marathon

NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

Read more about it on my Blogs at

http://www.myspace.com/christelking

Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

> > advice

> >

> >

> > Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

> >

> > ,

> > We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

> > sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

> > stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

> > go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

> > bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

> > GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

> >

> > We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

> > DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

> >

> > How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

> >

> > You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

> > more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

> > food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

> >

> > We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

> >

> > Looking forward to hearing from you.

> >

> > Nadiya and Roman

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >Hi all,

> > > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> > > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> > green

> > > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> > rice

> > > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > > >

> > > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> > yet.

> > > >

> > > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> > because

> > > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > > >reduce these allergies?

> > > >

> > > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > > >

> > > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > > >Thanks for all the support!

> > > >Nadiya and Roman

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ----------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.

> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date:

> > 9/23/2007 1:53 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Just butting in here, We always buy Wellshire Farms Premium Beef s at

Trader Joe's which are GFCF. L

Re: Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

advice

doesn't say casein free, and there is lactic acid starter culture which can

be milk, usually if it's not it will state that...

Recovering from Autism is a marathon

NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

Read more about it on my Blogs at

http://www.myspace. <http://www.myspace.com/christelking> com/christelking

Re: 5 yo child with mild ASD - looking for

> > advice

> >

> >

> > Thanks a lot to everyone for the feedback!

> >

> > ,

> > We can tell our sone is allergic to these foods purely based on his

> > sympthoms - rash on his body (starts from legs), eczema. When he

> > stops taking food he has a reaction to - after 3-5 days the sympthoms

> > go away otherwise the recation is getting worse and can really get

> > bad. He actually got eczema just a few weeks after he was put on

> > GF/CF/SF diet - he had never had it before!

> >

> > We did not do an IgG test. Do you know if we can do this test without

> > DAN! doctor? And if yes which lab is best?

> >

> > How can we find out what is provoking the leaky gut?

> >

> > You are saying about rotating the foods. Whould you please give us

> > more details? Are you saying we rather extend his menu to include the

> > food he is allergic to but rotate the food every few days?

> >

> > We appreciate your advise about oxalate diet.

> >

> > Looking forward to hearing from you.

> >

> > Nadiya and Roman

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >Hi all,

> > > >We are new to this group. We have 5 yo son with mild ASD who has

> > > >always been allergic to the food. 3 months ago we started GF/CF/SF

> > > >and anti- Candida diet and we found out a lot of hidden allergies -

> > > >there is almost nothing left he can eat. He is not allergic to

> > green

> > > >vegetables, potato, onion, squash, quinoa, pear, kiwi, bean flour,

> > > >meat (everything must be organic). We also give him brown/white

> > rice

> > > >but he is allergic to it as well just not that bad.

> > > >He takes calcium, magnesium, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E and C, B-

> > > >complex, P5P+ magnesium, Ther-biotic Complete, Enzyme-Complete/DPP-

> > > >IV, zinc, idebenone.

> > > >

> > > >We did not do any of the tests and we do not have a DAN! doctor

> > yet.

> > > >

> > > >- Should we eliminate rice or should we continue give him it

> > because

> > > >of his pour diet? Is there anything else at all that we can do to

> > > >reduce these allergies?

> > > >

> > > >- What our next steps in his treatment?

> > > >

> > > >Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

> > > >Thanks for all the support!

> > > >Nadiya and Roman

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ----------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.

> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date:

> > 9/23/2007 1:53 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >