Re: study: Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

[Guest guest]

This study seems like so much B.S.! It seems that the control group was also vaccinated, but only a few days later. Huh?? The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. One of the study's authors, Alfred Steinschneider, helped found the Institute. The study took place over only 4 days, and there was no followup afterwards. And, they only looked at apnea and bradycardia. Here's the link to the study, to see what you folks can make of it: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/121/5/e1085?maxtoshow= & HITS=10 & hits=10 & RESULTFORMAT= & fulltext=apnea+ & searchid=1 & FIRSTINDEX=0 & volume=121 & issue=5 & resourcetype=HWCIT Aasadpowell605

wrote: Preemies at no extra risk when immunizedChance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study saysMonday, May 05, 2008By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-GazettePremature infants do not face any increased risk from their first immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West Penn, said

the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation that 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP, vaccine."We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends it," Dr. Karamchandani said. "We want to inform the public as well as the doctors that it is safe."She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP shots and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation of breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less than 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2

months of chronological age.The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half randomly chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family Center of Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their immunizations, the rates were not very different from the unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56 percent).Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the diseases covered by the vaccine."They are in a high-risk period," she said. "They

can't fight infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers."The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although the cause of SIDS is still unknown."We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to sleep ..." she said. "In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids never had apnea.""We can only prove immunization is safe for babies," she said.

[Guest guest]

> Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

Hmm.. How about *no one* at " less risk " . Do these people forget

the two little sentences in the latest ACIP report, " Simultaneous

vaccination has not been studied.. Simultaneous vaccinations is

recommended. " Evidence-based medicine?

Jim

[Guest guest]

"They are in a high-risk period," she said. "They can't fight infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers."  If they can't fight infections - what makes these idiots think they can "fight" a live-virus vaccine (or a dead one for that matter)?  "Don't get antibodies from their mother".  Umm - have we never heard of colustrum and La Leche League?Jim

[Guest guest]

I guess they forgot about their previous study that concluded

preemies were at a much higher risk of developing Autism. I believe

that was also printed in the journal of the American Academy of

Pediatrics just a few months ago.

>

> Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

> Chance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study says

> Monday, May 05, 2008

> By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

>

> Premature infants do not face any increased risk from their first

> immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western

> Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of

> Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

>

> Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West Penn,

> said the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation that

> 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should

> receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP,

> vaccine.

>

> " We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends

> it, " Dr. Karamchandani said. " We want to inform the public as well

> as the doctors that it is safe. "

>

> She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses

> because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP shots

> and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation of

> breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.

>

> The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from

> bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.

>

> The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital

> neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less

than

> 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2 months of chronological

> age.

>

> The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half

randomly

> chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were

> analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.

>

> Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family Center of

> Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.

>

> Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the

> effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study

> averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.

>

> But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of

> apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their

> immunizations, the rates were not very different from the

> unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56

> percent).

>

> Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the

> diseases covered by the vaccine.

>

> " They are in a high-risk period, " she said. " They can't fight

> infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers. "

>

> The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although the

> cause of SIDS is still unknown.

>

> " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

never

> had apnea. "

>

> " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

>

[Guest guest]

These idiots forget what they write, I am convinced they make it up as

they go along!

Dawn wrote:

>

> I guess they forgot about their previous study that concluded

> preemies were at a much higher risk of developing Autism. I believe

> that was also printed in the journal of the American Academy of

> Pediatrics just a few months ago.

>

>

> >

> > Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

> > Chance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study says

> > Monday, May 05, 2008

> > By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

> >

> > Premature infants do not face any increased risk from their first

> > immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western

> > Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of

> > Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

> >

> > Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West Penn,

> > said the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation that

> > 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should

> > receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP,

> > vaccine.

> >

> > " We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends

> > it, " Dr. Karamchandani said. " We want to inform the public as well

> > as the doctors that it is safe. "

> >

> > She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses

> > because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP shots

> > and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation of

> > breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.

> >

> > The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from

> > bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.

> >

> > The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital

> > neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less

> than

> > 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2 months of chronological

> > age.

> >

> > The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half

> randomly

> > chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were

> > analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.

> >

> > Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family Center of

> > Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.

> >

> > Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the

> > effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study

> > averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.

> >

> > But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of

> > apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their

> > immunizations, the rates were not very different from the

> > unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56

> > percent).

> >

> > Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the

> > diseases covered by the vaccine.

> >

> > " They are in a high-risk period, " she said. " They can't fight

> > infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers. "

> >

> > The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> > babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> > well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although the

> > cause of SIDS is still unknown.

> >

> > " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> > sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

> never

> > had apnea. "

> >

> > " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I actually just completed three VAERS reports for my preemie son a

few months ago too. That was one of the things the questions on the

form - you are asked if the child was premature, how much did he/she

weigh. So, there is obviously a connection with Adverse

Reactions/premature babies.

> > >

> > > Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

> > > Chance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study says

> > > Monday, May 05, 2008

> > > By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

> > >

> > > Premature infants do not face any increased risk from their

first

> > > immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western

> > > Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of

> > > Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

> > >

> > > Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West

Penn,

> > > said the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation

that

> > > 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should

> > > receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP,

> > > vaccine.

> > >

> > > " We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends

> > > it, " Dr. Karamchandani said. " We want to inform the public as

well

> > > as the doctors that it is safe. "

> > >

> > > She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses

> > > because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP

shots

> > > and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation

of

> > > breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.

> > >

> > > The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from

> > > bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.

> > >

> > > The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital

> > > neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less

> > than

> > > 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2 months of

chronological

> > > age.

> > >

> > > The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half

> > randomly

> > > chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were

> > > analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.

> > >

> > > Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family

Center of

> > > Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.

> > >

> > > Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the

> > > effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study

> > > averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.

> > >

> > > But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of

> > > apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their

> > > immunizations, the rates were not very different from the

> > > unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56

> > > percent).

> > >

> > > Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the

> > > diseases covered by the vaccine.

> > >

> > > " They are in a high-risk period, " she said. " They can't fight

> > > infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers. "

> > >

> > > The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> > > babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> > > well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although

the

> > > cause of SIDS is still unknown.

> > >

> > > " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> > > sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

> > never

> > > had apnea. "

> > >

> > > " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A premature baby is at higher risk for a lot of things, I think these

know it alls forget that.

Dawn wrote:

>

> I actually just completed three VAERS reports for my preemie son a

> few months ago too. That was one of the things the questions on the

> form - you are asked if the child was premature, how much did he/she

> weigh. So, there is obviously a connection with Adverse

> Reactions/premature babies.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

> > > > Chance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study says

> > > > Monday, May 05, 2008

> > > > By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

> > > >

> > > > Premature infants do not face any increased risk from their

> first

> > > > immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western

> > > > Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of

> > > > Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

> > > >

> > > > Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West

> Penn,

> > > > said the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation

> that

> > > > 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should

> > > > receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP,

> > > > vaccine.

> > > >

> > > > " We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends

> > > > it, " Dr. Karamchandani said. " We want to inform the public as

> well

> > > > as the doctors that it is safe. "

> > > >

> > > > She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses

> > > > because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP

> shots

> > > > and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation

> of

> > > > breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.

> > > >

> > > > The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from

> > > > bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.

> > > >

> > > > The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital

> > > > neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less

> > > than

> > > > 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2 months of

> chronological

> > > > age.

> > > >

> > > > The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half

> > > randomly

> > > > chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were

> > > > analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.

> > > >

> > > > Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family

> Center of

> > > > Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the

> > > > effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study

> > > > averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.

> > > >

> > > > But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of

> > > > apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their

> > > > immunizations, the rates were not very different from the

> > > > unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56

> > > > percent).

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the

> > > > diseases covered by the vaccine.

> > > >

> > > > " They are in a high-risk period, " she said. " They can't fight

> > > > infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers. "

> > > >

> > > > The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> > > > babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> > > > well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although

> the

> > > > cause of SIDS is still unknown.

> > > >

> > > > " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> > > > sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

> > > never

> > > > had apnea. "

> > > >

> > > > " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

> .. preemies were at a much higher risk of developing Autism ..

> printed in the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics just a

> few months ago.

>

Short memory, eh? *Childhood-onset Alzheimer's* perhaps????? (or

autism, but oh no, we could possibly say *that* a-word. Can't scare

the parents out of the MMR shot, or the mostly-useless-at-least-when-

given mumps and rubella vaccine (source: Jepson, Chanigng the Course

of Autism)

Jim

[Guest guest]

> A premature baby is at higher risk for a lot of things, I think these

> know it alls forget that.

>

Oh, I think they know it.. And they use it to 'dismiss' a lot of

things that otherwise would get attention and be quite alarming.

Seizures 10 times a day, you ask the ped? Oh that happens a lot in

kids with autism? Gut pains and horrendous stool problems? Oh,

that's happens a lot in autism? Referral to a ped neurologist or GI

specialist to try to figure out *what's going on and WHY*?? Never!

Why would you want to do that? Autism is incurable..

Stupid peds - although they are just doing what the AAP tells them

(or doesn't tell them). So *more stupid* (and criminal?) AAP

leadership?

*Any* way this turns out - mercury, envrionemental chemicals,

vaccine immune overstimulation, mitochondrial problems or no.. There

is NO way the power-that-be are going to get out of this autism

mess.. " Neglecting public health " for 15+ years will be the charge

at the top of the list. There is bad, and there is worse, and there

is much worse for these guys. I find it highly ironic that they

covered things up in the beginning on the foolish idea that it would

*limit liability*. Well, that liability has now gone up - at least

10-fold. And did it so as " not to alarm the public " . Well, the

public's trust is almost gone too.

*GOOD JOB* CDC, FDA, AAP, IOM, etc.. You have almost destroyed

yourselves in the eyes of the public. Reminds me of that line in

Harry Potter 5 or 6 where Dumbledore is talking to Fudge " if you do

what needs to be done now, you will go down in history as one of the

bravest Ministers of Magic ever. If not.. " (paraphrase)

" Tired of the (dangerous) bozos "

Jim

[Guest guest]

AAP-1999: "Until thimerosal-free vaccine is available, immunization for the small, prematurely born infant should be deferred until the infant reaches a size and developmental level that corresponds to the term infant (as noted above)."

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/August2001/ThimVaxIntRep.htm

>> > .. preemies were at a much higher risk of developing Autism .. > > printed in the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics just a > > few months ago.> >> Short memory, eh? *Childhood-onset Alzheimer's* perhaps????? (or > autism, but oh no, we could possibly say *that* a-word. Can't scare > the parents out of the MMR shot, or the mostly-useless-at-least-when- > given mumps and rubella vaccine (source: Jepson, Chanigng the Course > of Autism)> > Jim>

[Guest guest]

Do you have a link to the previous study?

I had preemies.

Dawn wrote:

>

> I guess they forgot about their previous study that concluded

> preemies were at a much higher risk of developing Autism. I believe

> that was also printed in the journal of the American Academy of

> Pediatrics just a few months ago.

>

>

> >

> > Preemies at no extra risk when immunized

> > Chance for disease outweighs concerns, hospital study says

> > Monday, May 05, 2008

> > By Jill Daly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

> >

> > Premature infants do not face any increased risk from their first

> > immunization, according to a study by researchers at the Western

> > Pennsylvania Hospital, published today in the May issue of

> > Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

> >

> > Co-author Nilima Karamchandani, chief of neonatology at West Penn,

> > said the results affirm the AAP's long-standing recommendation that

> > 2-month-old babies, no matter how early they are born, should

> > receive their diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis, or DTaP,

> > vaccine.

> >

> > " We would like the babies to get their shots when AAP recommends

> > it, " Dr. Karamchandani said. " We want to inform the public as well

> > as the doctors that it is safe. "

> >

> > She said some pediatricians had delayed the vaccine or cut doses

> > because of reports of premature babies receiving their DTaP shots

> > and then suffering higher rates of apnea, which is a cessation of

> > breathing, and bradycardia, a slow heart rate.

> >

> > The doctor said the latest study sought more objective data from

> > bedside monitoring equipment, analyzed by independent experts.

> >

> > The randomized, controlled clinical trial involved 10 hospital

> > neonatal intensive care units treating 191 infants born at less

> than

> > 37 weeks gestational age, and enrolled at 2 months of chronological

> > age.

> >

> > The babies with similar medical characteristics -- but half

> randomly

> > chosen for vaccination -- were monitored, and those results were

> > analyzed by two specialists based at different sites.

> >

> > Besides West Penn, the Children's Home and Lemieux Family Center of

> > Pittsburgh also participated as a study site.

> >

> > Dr. Karamchandani said she herself has been concerned about the

> > effect of vaccine on some premature infants. Those in the study

> > averaged about 31/2 pounds in weight.

> >

> > But, although the babies continued to have prolonged episodes of

> > apnea (16 percent) and bradycardia (58 percent) after their

> > immunizations, the rates were not very different from the

> > unvaccinated group -- apnea (20 percent) and bradycardia (56

> > percent).

> >

> > Dr. Karamchandani said the babies should be protected from the

> > diseases covered by the vaccine.

> >

> > " They are in a high-risk period, " she said. " They can't fight

> > infections; they don't get antibodies from their mothers. "

> >

> > The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> > babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> > well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although the

> > cause of SIDS is still unknown.

> >

> > " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> > sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

> never

> > had apnea. "

> >

> > " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

They weren't following their protocol in 2001 when my boys got shots

(with thimerosal too!) - they were less than term and less than 5 lbs -

told me it was the law ... (I didn't know better and trusted them).

Diane

>

>

> AAP-1999: " Until thimerosal-free vaccine is available, immunization

for

> the small, prematurely born infant should be deferred until the

infant

> reaches a size and developmental level that corresponds to the term

> infant (as noted above). "

>

> http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/August2001/ThimVaxIntRep.htm

>

<http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/August2001/ThimVaxIntRep.htm>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > The study was funded by the American SIDS Institute. Premature

> > > > babies are at a higher risk for sudden infant death syndrome, as

> > > > well as apnea and bradycardia, Dr. Karamchandani said, although

> the

> > > > cause of SIDS is still unknown.

> > > >

> > > > " We tell parents not to smoke, put their baby on his back to

> > > > sleep ... " she said. " In most SIDS cases, 75 percent, the kids

> > > never

> > > > had apnea. "

> > > >

> > > > " We can only prove immunization is safe for babies, " she said.

> > > >

This study is funded by the American SIDS Institute ... man, who can

you trust? This is bogus and just plain ridiculous ...