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DR JOHN E MCCLURE wrote: April 26, 2008 - I have been sympathetic to concerns over vaccine safety and agree that we need to give vaccines individually and spaced out in time more than is current medical practice, however, you may want to distribute this news article that explains the urgency that all children receive the flu vaccine for next Fall flu season. We are entering a new era where co-infection with flu virus and bacterial infection with MRSA (methicilliin-resistant

Staph aureus) that can produce pneumonia more readily when flu has damaged airways/lungs creates a deadly combination that carries high mortality..... the CDC will change it's recommendation this Fall to "all children under age 19yr should receive the flu vaccine" ... the benefit from receiving flu vaccine to prevent this deadly combination of infections far outweigh concerns over vaccine safety... E. McClure, PhD, Administrator Kemah Early Autism Project Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSADocs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSAInfluenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts SayBy DAN CHILDS ABC News Medical UnitApril 26, 2008— One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year. The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's

doctors can throw at it. Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing threat -- simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise. So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing. According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also infected with some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA. This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period in 2005 and 2006, and just

one such case identified in 2004-2005. And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing concerns over such a surge. It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas. "It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in patients who have influenza," he says. "This has not changed." But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy individuals. "The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit secondary bacterial infection is not new,"

says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. "This is what happened in the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the elderly and immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality." "Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be MRSA," says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "Thus, we have a new phenomenon that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more difficult to treat." Ganging Up on the Body's DefensesContracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple coincidence, scientists

believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold. The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at a time when pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on the rise. "The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as the increasing incidence of MRSA," says Klein. Beating the BugsSchaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with increased vaccination rates. It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine

during a given season. Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the forms of the vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children. One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site titled "Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine." The group encourages supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations. On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others "if feasible." But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the

age of 19 receive the flu vaccine. Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and influenza become public. "This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against influenza each year," he says. "If you prevent the initial influenza infection, you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit -- what could be better than that?" Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report. Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the

rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org "There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must."

Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

Influenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts Say

By DAN CHILDS

ABC News Medical Unit

April 26, 2008—

One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year.

The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic

overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's doctors can

throw at it.

Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant

Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health

officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing threat --

simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at

least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise.

So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned

about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing.

According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006,

and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths

due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also infected with

some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA.

This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period

in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005.

And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials

have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing

concerns over such a surge.

It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone

hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of

Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas.

" It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in

patients who have influenza, " he says. " This has not changed. "

But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease

experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant

bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy

individuals.

" The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit

secondary bacterial infection is not new, " says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of

pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. " This is what happened in

the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of

multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the elderly and

immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals

were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality. "

" Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is

complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be

MRSA, " says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine

at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. " Thus, we have a new phenomenon

that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more difficult to

treat. "

Ganging Up on the Body's Defenses

Contracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple

coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted

on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into

vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold.

The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at a time when

pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on

the rise.

" The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a

confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for

example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as

the increasing incidence of MRSA, " says Klein.

Beating the Bugs

Schaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between

influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with increased

vaccination rates.

It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about

one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a given season.

Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that

actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the

flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the forms of the

vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children.

One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site

titled " Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine. " The group encourages

supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations.

On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do

little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily

of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others " if feasible. "

But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the

agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the age of 19

receive the flu vaccine.

Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization

recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and

influenza become public.

" This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against

influenza each year, " he says. " If you prevent the initial influenza infection,

you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all

children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit --

what could be better than that? "

Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

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Sounds like bona fide case of population control.

Where is their evidence for this predicted deadly combo? Not exactly top of the class with safety studies and evidence are they?

They used a similar tactic to sell the MMR in the UK in the early 1990s , they predicted some terrible outbreak, but as it happened the stocks that the government had were due to run out and they wanted them all used up.

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DR JOHN E MCCLURE <johnmcclure8545sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

April 26, 2008

- I have been sympathetic to concerns over vaccine safety and agree that we need to give vaccines individually and spaced out in time more than is current medical practice, however, you may want to distribute this news article that explains the urgency that all children receive the flu vaccine for next Fall flu season. We are entering a new era where co-infection with flu virus and bacterial infection with MRSA (methicilliin-resistant Staph aureus) that can produce pneumonia more readily when flu has damaged airways/lungs creates a deadly combination that carries high mortality..... the CDC will change it's recommendation this Fall to "all children under age 19yr should receive the flu vaccine" ... the benefit from receiving flu vaccine to prevent this deadly combination of infections far outweigh concerns over vaccine safety...

E. McClure, PhD, Administrator

Kemah Early Autism Project

Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSADocs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSAInfluenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts SayBy DAN CHILDS

ABC News Medical UnitApril 26, 2008— One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year. The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's doctors can throw at it. Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing threat -- simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise. So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing. According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also infected with some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA. This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005. And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing concerns over such a surge. It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas. "It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in patients who have influenza," he says. "This has not changed." But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy individuals. "The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit secondary bacterial infection is not new," says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. "This is what happened in the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the elderly and immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality." "Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be MRSA," says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "Thus, we have a new phenomenon that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more difficult to treat." Ganging Up on the Body's DefensesContracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold. The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at a time when pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on the rise. "The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as the increasing incidence of MRSA," says Klein. Beating the BugsSchaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with increased vaccination rates. It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a given season. Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the forms of the vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children. One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site titled "Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine." The group encourages supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations. On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others "if feasible." But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the age of 19 receive the flu vaccine. Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and influenza become public. "This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against influenza each year," he says. "If you prevent the initial influenza infection, you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit -- what could be better than that?" Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report. Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

"There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must."

Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSADocs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSAInfluenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts SayBy DAN CHILDSABC News Medical UnitApril 26, 2008- One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year. The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's doctors can throw at it. Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing threat -- simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise. So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing. According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also infected with some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA. This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005. And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing concerns over such a surge. It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas. "It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in patients who have influenza," he says. "This has not changed." But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy individuals. "The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit secondary bacterial infection is not new," says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. "This is what happened in the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the elderly and immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality." "Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be MRSA," says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "Thus, we have a new phenomenon that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more difficult to treat." Ganging Up on the Body's DefensesContracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold. The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at a time when pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on the rise. "The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as the increasing incidence of MRSA," says Klein. Beating the BugsSchaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with increased vaccination rates. It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a given season. Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the forms of the vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children. One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site titled "Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine." The group encourages supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations. On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others "if feasible." But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the age of 19 receive the flu vaccine. Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and influenza become public. "This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against influenza each year," he says. "If you prevent the initial influenza infection, you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit -- what could be better than that?" Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report. 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You need to tell him that the inactivated flu vacc. is the same as giving a placebo to children 6-mos to 2 yrs of age. And in the UK there is no evidence that the inactivated flu vacc. even works. Also that preg women should never be exposed to thimerosal that's per manuf. MSDS sheet. Early onset Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, and Gillian barre syndrome is most likely linked to the wonderful little money maker the flu vacc so we need more of these diseases ???? Also 36,000 people don't die from flu, that is counting any one who dies from a respiratory problem also." M. Guppy" wrote: DR JOHN E MCCLURE <johnmcclure8545sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: April 26, 2008 - I have been sympathetic to concerns over vaccine safety and agree that we need to give vaccines individually and spaced out in time more than is current medical practice, however, you may want to distribute this news article that explains the urgency that all

children receive the flu vaccine for next Fall flu season. We are entering a new era where co-infection with flu virus and bacterial infection with MRSA (methicilliin-resistant Staph aureus) that can produce pneumonia more readily when flu has damaged airways/lungs creates a deadly combination that carries high mortality..... the CDC will change it's recommendation this Fall to "all children under age 19yr should receive the flu vaccine" ... the benefit from receiving flu vaccine to prevent this deadly combination of infections far outweigh concerns over vaccine safety... E. McClure, PhD, Administrator Kemah Early Autism Project Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSADocs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSAInfluenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts SayBy DAN CHILDS ABC News Medical UnitApril 26, 2008— One is a viral illness responsible

for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year. The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's doctors can throw at it. Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing threat -- simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise. So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing. According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths due to influenza. In 22 of these

cases, the children were also infected with some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA. This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005. And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing concerns over such a surge. It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas. "It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in patients who have influenza," he says. "This has not changed." But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant bugs have happened

in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy individuals. "The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit secondary bacterial infection is not new," says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. "This is what happened in the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the elderly and immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality." "Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be MRSA," says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "Thus, we have a new phenomenon that can cause serious,

life-threatening disease and is more difficult to treat." Ganging Up on the Body's DefensesContracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold. The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at a time when pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on the rise. "The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as the increasing incidence of MRSA," says Klein. Beating the BugsSchaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between influenza and MRSA is to go on

the attack against the flu with increased vaccination rates. It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a given season. Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the forms of the vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children. One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site titled "Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine." The group encourages supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations. On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily of children 6 months

to 5 years old, and others "if feasible." But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the age of 19 receive the flu vaccine. Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and influenza become public. "This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against influenza each year," he says. "If you prevent the initial influenza infection, you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit -- what could be better than that?" Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report. Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org "There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must." Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSADocs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSAInfluenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts SayBy DAN CHILDSABC News Medical UnitApril 26, 2008— One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths every year. The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of antibiotic overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's doctors can throw at it. Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But now, health officials are keeping an eye out for an even more

harrowing threat -- simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in children at least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the rise. So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has learned about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is disturbing. According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between Oct. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of child deaths due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also infected with some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA. This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during the same period in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005. And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health officials have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu, renewing concerns over such a surge. It is not

the first time that viral and bacterial infections have gone hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at University of Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas. "It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much more common in patients who have influenza," he says. "This has not changed." But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious disease experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and drug-resistant bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for many healthy individuals. "The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the mucosa to permit secondary bacterial infection is not new," says Dr. Jerome Klein, professor of pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. "This is what happened in the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a pandemic of multidrug resistant staphylococcal

infections. Not only were the elderly and immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy individuals were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality." "Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza that is complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia will likely be MRSA," says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of preventive medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "Thus, we have a new phenomenon that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more difficult to treat." Ganging Up on the Body's DefensesContracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more than simple coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the damage inflicted on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to sneak into vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold. The timing of concerns over the links between flu and

MRSA come at a time when pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug infections are on the rise. "The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned about a confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -- for example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at the same time as the increasing incidence of MRSA," says Klein. Beating the BugsSchaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership between influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with increased vaccination rates. It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that only about one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a given season. Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of groups that actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated against the flu. These groups claim that these vaccines --

primarily, the forms of the vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism in children. One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on its Web site titled "Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine." The group encourages supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and other locations. On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC recommendations do little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge vaccination primarily of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others "if feasible." But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009 flu season, the agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under the age of 19 receive the flu vaccine. Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take immunization recommendations more seriously as additional information about MRSA and influenza become public. "This

strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all children against influenza each year," he says. "If you prevent the initial influenza infection, you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus, vaccinating all children against influenza is a public health program with a double benefit -- what could be better than that?" Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report. Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

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I think may start homeschooling

dd

>

> Sounds like bona fide case of population control.

>

> Where is their evidence for this predicted deadly combo? Not exactly

top of the class with safety studies and evidence are they?

>

> They used a similar tactic to sell the MMR in the UK in the early

1990s , they predicted some terrible outbreak, but as it happened the

stocks that the government had were due to run out and they wanted them

all used up.

>

>

> Ange

>

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Ok, two things about this.

First - why children up to 19yo??? Shouldn't the preteens and

teenagers at least have the strongest immune systems of anyone? I

mean, they *should* be much more able to fight off the flu than say,

a 45yo. Or, do they just know that parents will haul in their kids

for the vaccs, but adults are less likely to get the shot themselves?

Also, if MRSA is the deadly bacteria caused by *overuse* of

antibiotics, what is going to happen with the *overuse* of flu

vaccine??? If they continue to use flu shots (assuming they work),

won't the flu mutate into a much more deadly disease? Viruses as

well as bacteria mutate - they can't keep doing this!

More fear mongering - if the flu doesn't scare parents enough,

linking it to MRSA will surely increase vaccine uptake!

Sally

> April 26, 2008

> - I have been sympathetic to concerns over vaccine

safety and agree that we need to give vaccines individually and

spaced out in time more than is current medical practice, however,

you may want to distribute this news article that explains the

urgency that all children receive the flu vaccine for next Fall flu

season. We are entering a new era where co-infection with flu

virus and bacterial infection with MRSA (methicilliin-resistant

Staph aureus) that can produce pneumonia more readily when flu has

damaged airways/lungs creates a deadly combination that carries high

mortality..... the CDC will change it's recommendation this Fall

to " all children under age 19yr should receive the flu vaccine " ...

the benefit from receiving flu vaccine to prevent this deadly

combination of infections far outweigh concerns over vaccine

safety...

> E. McClure, PhD, Administrator

> Kemah Early Autism Project

> Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

> Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

> Influenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts Say

> By DAN CHILDS

>

> ABC News Medical Unit

> April 26, 2008—

> One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths

every year.

> The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of

antibiotic

> overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's

doctors can

> throw at it.

> Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-

resistant

> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But

now, health

> officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing

threat --

> simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in

children at

> least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the

rise.

> So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

has learned

> about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is

disturbing.

> According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between

Oct. 1, 2006,

> and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of

child deaths

> due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also

infected with

> some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA.

> This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during

the same period

> in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005.

> And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health

officials

> have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu,

renewing

> concerns over such a surge.

> It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have

gone

> hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at

University of

> Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas.

> " It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much

more common in

> patients who have influenza, " he says. " This has not changed. "

> But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious

disease

> experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and

drug-resistant

> bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for

many healthy

> individuals.

> " The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the

mucosa to permit

> secondary bacterial infection is not new, " says Dr. Jerome Klein,

professor of

> pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. " This is what

happened in

> the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a

pandemic of

> multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the

elderly and

> immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy

individuals

> were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality. "

> " Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza

that is

> complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia

will likely be

> MRSA, " says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of

preventive medicine

> at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. " Thus, we have a

new phenomenon

> that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more

difficult to

> treat. "

> Ganging Up on the Body's Defenses

> Contracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more

than simple

> coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the

damage inflicted

> on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to

sneak into

> vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold.

> The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at

a time when

> pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug

infections are on

> the rise.

> " The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned

about a

> confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -

- for

> example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at

the same time as

> the increasing incidence of MRSA, " says Klein.

> Beating the Bugs

> Schaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership

between

> influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with

increased

> vaccination rates.

> It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that

only about

> one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a

given season.

> Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of

groups that

> actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated

against the

> flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the

forms of the

> vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism

in children.

> One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on

its Web site

> titled " Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine. " The group

encourages

> supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and

other locations.

> On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC

recommendations do

> little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge

vaccination primarily

> of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others " if feasible. "

> But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009

flu season, the

> agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under

the age of 19

> receive the flu vaccine.

> Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take

immunization

> recommendations more seriously as additional information about

MRSA and

> influenza become public.

> " This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all

children against

> influenza each year, " he says. " If you prevent the initial

influenza infection,

> you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus,

vaccinating all

> children against influenza is a public health program with a

double benefit --

> what could be better than that? "

> Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report.

> Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

>

>

>

> M. Guppy

> My autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's

about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy:

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

> " There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right

to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No

one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an

inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does

and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge

their own futures. All must. "

>

>

> Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

> Docs Fear Deadly Combo of Flu, MRSA

> Influenza Opens Door for Superbug Infections, Health Experts Say

> By DAN CHILDS

> ABC News Medical Unit

> April 26, 2008—

> One is a viral illness responsible for an estimated 35,000 deaths

every year.

> The other is a potentially deadly superbug, a horrifying legacy of

antibiotic

> overuse that is now resistant to almost every treatment today's

doctors can

> throw at it.

> Even on their own, infection with either influenza or methicillin-

resistant

> Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can lead to a grave situation. But

now, health

> officials are keeping an eye out for an even more harrowing

threat --

> simultaneous infection with both diseases. And they say that, in

children at

> least, these cases of co-incident infection appear to be on the

rise.

> So far, what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

has learned

> about the potential link between flu and MRSA in young patients is

disturbing.

> According to an official health advisory issued Jan. 30, between

Oct. 1, 2006,

> and Sept. 30, 2007, the agency received a total of 73 reports of

child deaths

> due to influenza. In 22 of these cases, the children were also

infected with

> some form of the staph bug, mostly MRSA.

> This compares with only three such cases of co-infection during

the same period

> in 2005 and 2006, and just one such case identified in 2004-2005.

> And on Friday, the Boston Globe reported that Massachusetts health

officials

> have linked MRSA to two recent deaths in children from the flu,

renewing

> concerns over such a surge.

> It is not the first time that viral and bacterial infections have

gone

> hand-in-hand, notes Dr. C. Weissler, chief of medicine at

University of

> Texas Southwestern University Hospitals in Dallas.

> " It is well known that community-acquired staph pneumonia is much

more common in

> patients who have influenza, " he says. " This has not changed. "

> But when it does happen, the results can be disastrous. Infectious

disease

> experts say spikes in this kind of co-incidence of influenza and

drug-resistant

> bugs have happened in the past, with devastating results even for

many healthy

> individuals.

> " The association of influenza viral infection disrupting the

mucosa to permit

> secondary bacterial infection is not new, " says Dr. Jerome Klein,

professor of

> pediatrics at Boston University School of Medicine. " This is what

happened in

> the influenza pandemic in 1957, which was co-incident with a

pandemic of

> multidrug resistant staphylococcal infections. Not only were the

elderly and

> immunocompromised prone to the combination, but otherwise healthy

individuals

> were felled with substantial morbidity and mortality. "

> " Thus, now when children -- and maybe adults also -- get influenza

that is

> complicated by pneumonia, the bacterial cause of the pneumonia

will likely be

> MRSA, " says Dr. Schaffner, professor and chairman of

preventive medicine

> at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. " Thus, we have a

new phenomenon

> that can cause serious, life-threatening disease and is more

difficult to

> treat. "

> Ganging Up on the Body's Defenses

> Contracting both the flu and MRSA at the same time is far more

than simple

> coincidence, scientists believe. Rather, they suspect that the

damage inflicted

> on the lungs and airways by the flu virus allows MRSA germs to

sneak into

> vulnerable tissues and gain a foothold.

> The timing of concerns over the links between flu and MRSA come at

a time when

> pandemic fears are growing and reports of nonhospital superbug

infections are on

> the rise.

> " The public health groups in the state and the CDC are concerned

about a

> confluence as 'the perfect storm,' a virulent influenzal pandemic -

- for

> example, bird flu, SARS or [another viral illness] occurring at

the same time as

> the increasing incidence of MRSA, " says Klein.

> Beating the Bugs

> Schaffner says the key to heading off the dangerous partnership

between

> influenza and MRSA is to go on the attack against the flu with

increased

> vaccination rates.

> It is a task that is easier said than done. Schaffner notes that

only about

> one-third of children actually receive the flu vaccine during a

given season.

> Part of the reason behind this low turnout could be the number of

groups that

> actively discourage parents from having their children vaccinated

against the

> flu. These groups claim that these vaccines -- primarily, the

forms of the

> vaccine that contain thimerosal -- are a primary cause of autism

in children.

> One group, known as SafeMinds, provides a printable brochure on

its Web site

> titled " Help Spread the Word About the Flu Vaccine. " The group

encourages

> supporters to leave the brochure in their doctors' offices and

other locations.

> On the other side of the vaccination equation, current CDC

recommendations do

> little to bolster flu vaccination among kids, as they urge

vaccination primarily

> of children 6 months to 5 years old, and others " if feasible. "

> But this could change soon. Schaffner says that by the 2008-2009

flu season, the

> agency will change its guidelines to recommend that everyone under

the age of 19

> receive the flu vaccine.

> Additionally, he hopes that parents and pediatricians will take

immunization

> recommendations more seriously as additional information about

MRSA and

> influenza become public.

> " This strengthens even more the rationale for vaccinating all

children against

> influenza each year, " he says. " If you prevent the initial

influenza infection,

> you also prevent the dire complication of MRSA pneumonia. Thus,

vaccinating all

> children against influenza is a public health program with a

double benefit --

> what could be better than that? "

> Dr. Diane Kang contributed to this report.

> Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

>

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It isn't just antibiotic overuse which is causing an increase in

MRSA. A major cause is Prevnar which wipes out some of our normal

flora. The normal flora has a method of preventing staph...

Please read this: http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/?p=119

Quote: The most alarming of the replacement effects with Prevnar is

how staph moves in when pneumo is taken out. Described here:

" A trial with a 7-valent pneumococcal-conjugate vaccine in children

with recurrent acute otitis media showed a shift in pneumococcal

colonisation towards non-vaccine serotypes and an increase in

Staphylococcus aureus-related acute otitis media after vaccination "

" These findings suggest a natural competition between colonisation

with vaccine-type pneumococci and S aureus, which might explain the

increase in S aureus-related otitis media after vaccination. "

How does it work?

The bactericidal activity of Streptococcus pneumoniae toward

Staphylococcus aureus is mediated by hydrogen peroxide. Catalase

eliminated this activity. Pneumococci grown anaerobically or

genetically lacking pyruvate oxidase (SpxB) were not bactericidal,

nor were nonpneumococcal streptococci. These results provide a

possible mechanistic explanation for the interspecies interference

observed in epidemiologic studies.

S pneumo poisons staph with hydrogen peroxide.

So what does that mean?

This study concludes:

Conclusions

Streptococcus pneumoniae carriage, specifically of vaccine-type

strains, is negatively associated with S aureus carriage in children.

The implications of these findings in the pneumococcal vaccine era

require further investigation.

You can't lock out pneumo with the vaccine without opening a window

for staph. The change in the " ecosystem " extends beyond those who are

vaccinated with Prevnar, as well. Because of herd immunity, the

phenomenon can be seen in the whole population.

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MRSA is endemic to the world around us, like anthrax. And yet, despite being

readily prevalant MRSA (like anthrax) almost never strikes us. Why?

The people who get MRSA and must be treated and closely monitored are almost all

those who are placed into a contained air system, with substandard housekeeping,

like hospitals, lock-ups and other secured facilities. In their attempts to

keep a lid on outside microbes, these places recirculate the viruses and

microbes, and slipshod housekeeping allows the strongest of these (of which MRSA

is one) to fill the void in the local environment making them far more likely to

strike.

Want to avoid MRSA when you have the flu? Stay home, it is safer.

According to the CDC, preventable staff infections while hospitalized kills over

70,000 people a year. I bet if they would culture these to identify which, MRSA

would be a large proportion.

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I believe the Mennctra shot is also responsible for MRSA Staph. My oldest NT son,, with two MTHFR snips was given a Mennectra shot at his college football physical against the signed waiver for vaccine exemptions. They forgot to look at the exemption form and gave the shot before my son could resist, he to let them give him the Td and called me too late. He developed MRSA after an injury where the seam of his football gloves cut his thumb print off and pulled his nail out. We were on every antibiotic and the MRSA would come back after 10 days off the antibiotics. After 10 months of this we put MEDIHONEY on the outbreaks and he showered with Phisohex, he is 100% free for 6 months. I ordered the MEDIHONEY from Australia and use it on all cuts, scraps, burns it is fantastic. The infectious disease doctor called me over Christmas and asked how I got Philip over the MRSA, he is now a believer in MEDIHONEY.

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