Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 , I cannot thank you enough for this thorough lecture on the effect of long term protein starvation. It's ironic that my daughter, 8 y.o., is always tall for her age, and she seems to have more muscles than I do. I don't know whether she gets various amino acids to make so many metabolic enzymes. I am totally convinced that I need to add in more protein into her diet. Your lecture gives me the confidence to pursue as well as the urgency of doing so. I'll be asking listmates in a different thread on how to add yummy protein foods into her diet. I fully acknowledge, as graciously pointed out, that any protocol that produces a lasting side-effect needs to be re-evaluated. An overemphasis on one single piece of the biochemical pathways can have really serious adverse consequences. I have learned that first hand! I am very grateful to you and many parents who have generously offered their openness and insights. I am quite embarrassed that how ignorant I was and am about the detrimental effects of protein restriction. Bo > > Bo and other listmates, > > The gut is a different sort of organ in that it gets most of its nutrition > directly from food so that it is not as reliant as other organs on the > blood supply to deliver goods to it. That is probably why the gut would be > more dependent on the diet than any other organ. As an example, I've put a > study below about rats where they restricted the diet in various > proportions or totally for one week, and they found that after that week > the weight of duodenum (I'm sure empty of its contents) dropped 40%, the > jejunum 25% and ileum 18%. This is just ONE week! On refeeding, the mass > was regained, but it took a various number of days, depending on the segment. > > One of the problems with restricting protein too much is that our enzymes > that digest our food in the gut are made of protein, and these enzymes may > stop being made as adequately at a very depressed level of protein > nutrition. Once that has started, then someone will develop an increased > intolerance of more foods, and may lose the will to eat. There are > actually studies that say that the appetite is especially lost for protein > when the amount of the protein as a percent of the total diet goes too > low! That is why it is dangerous to reduce protein in the diet too much > and if your child won't eat protein after a period of cutting back protein, > that may be the way he or she got there. > > There are countries where babies do OK as long as they are breastfed (and > many mothers consequently breast feed them for much longer than in more > " modern " nations). Breast milk will end up in those countries providing a > much higher amount of protein than is available to that child any other > way. That means that once the baby is weaned, he will start to be fed > things like gruel that are practically all carbohydrate. This is when the > child will begin to lose his ability to fight disease (as Binstock's > article she circulated about today stated). Immunoglobulins are among the > proteins whose manufacture is slighted when protein is low. but it is > certainly not the only and frequently measuring blood proteins is used as > an assessment of protein status. Remember, enzymes function to speed > chemical reactions in the body, and take substrates of one type and produce > products that are different. With reduced enzyme activity you get a build > up of the subsrate and a diminished supply of the product. > > This scenario with breastmilk and the loss of protein in the diet after > weaning is the origin of the term " kwashiorkor " which technically means > " protein malnutrtion " but the source of the word is a term that is tied to > an older child being weaned and beginning to starve when a new sibling arrives. > > We don't have to reinvent the wheel here. There is a lot of literature on > protein energy malnutrition and some of you may remember that I included > some information about this in lectures I did quite a few years ago. My > interest in this area began when I met some very emaciated children with > autism who were very lacking in muscle, and when I realized that if some of > our autism children have started to break down muscle (and in adults with > cachexia, that process can make an adult lose muscle as fast as a pound a > day, I read yesterday) then that lowers the creatinine and makes a lot of > things look over-elevated on spot urine tests, including heavy metal > testing. In this case, the correction for creatinine can be very > misleading and may give the impression that " extra metals are being > chelated " when some portion of the change could have reflected a loss of > muscle that changed the ratio of creatinine to everything else. So, buyer > beware if someone is encouraging you to restrict protein too far and then > getting happy if you start to see higher looking levels on heavy metals > testing that is reported ratioed to creatinine. If you have any suspicions > that your child has lost muscle mass, you should insist on getting a full > organic acid test at the same time as a metals test, for that will allow > you to use the ratio of all the analytes to each other to discover the > influence of changes in creatinine. > > I've gone into more detail on how this calculation of changed creatinine > ratios works on posts written to sulfurstories and Trying_Low_Oxalates, so > if you want more explanation on this interpretation of lab testing, check > there! > > In the meantime, if you are concerned that someone you love might have > gotten too low in protein, or if you want to be able to recognize the > signs, please read the articles below. > > I hope this helps. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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