Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I don't know. Even the SED rate doesn't show you where the inflammation is - only that it's present. Our daughter is high in arachidonic acid. A DAN! doctor tested her fatty acids and it came back extremely high. He suggested that she stop eating so much meat. But, our daughter has NEVER eaten meat so I didn't really know what to do. This doctor was from Colorado and we had a one time consultation in Austin with him. Dr. McCandless said that most of ASD kids would have inflammation - I can't even remember why our daughter had the SED rate test in the first place. I'm sure she's always had inflammation. If the SED rate is normal then I suppose you have inflammation under control - but I don't know. Shari Sedimentation rate Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hello Shari, When I read your reply (thanks for it!), I went to my little Metametrix " ION Handbook, " and looked up arachidonic acid. This is what I found, and perhaps it will be a help to you. (Corn and corn oil???) Text from ION Handbook: Arachidonic Acid (AA) Long chain (20 carbon) fatty acid Substrate in the production of local hormones called class 2 eicosanoids (Prostaglandins, Thromboxanes, and Leukotrienes) Converted into various compounds for local control of many tissue responses Pro-inflammatory Promoter of growth (cancer) Blood clotting activity Promotes gallstone formation Least likely fatty acid to be found insufficient FOOD SOURCES: Corn and corn oil (precursor source) Red meats from corn-fed cattle, chicken and hogs IF HIGH: Causes: Corn and corn oil Red meats from corn-fed cattle, chicken and hogs SYMPTOMS AND cONDITIONS: Gallstone formation by stimulating mucin production Blood clotting Heart disease Depression Chronic inflammatory disorders TREATMENT: Reduce red meats and corn products > > I don't know. Even the SED rate doesn't show you where the inflammation is - only that it's present. Our daughter is high in arachidonic acid. A DAN! doctor tested her fatty acids and it came back extremely high. He suggested that she stop eating so much meat. But, our daughter has NEVER eaten meat so I didn't really know what to do. This doctor was from Colorado and we had a one time consultation in Austin with him. Dr. McCandless said that most of ASD kids would have inflammation - I can't even remember why our daughter had the SED rate test in the first place. I'm sure she's always had inflammation. If the SED rate is normal then I suppose you have inflammation under control - but I don't know. > Shari > Sedimentation rate > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 , Oh my gosh - this is so weird. Neathery is so allergic to corn and we desperately try to keep all corn products away from her. She naturally won't eat corn but you know it's in corn starch, corn syrup, etc... Well, this is interesting. And, I hate it so bad - my mother passed away from Acute Myeloid Leukemia in June and it scares me that Neathery has an elevated SED rate. Well, I really need to get the arachidonic acid levels down. But, fish oil , Vit. E and Vit. A all cause Neathery to become foggy and spacey. It's been a hard balancing act. Thank you so much for sending this to me. Joyce Davila posted some interesting things about natural inflammation fighters - I'm going to look at that, too. Shari Sedimentation rate > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 EFA testing would show if you have inflammation Sedimentation rate Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Shari, First, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. Nothing's easy, is it? Regarding Neathery's AA..... Weird is right! You know, I would think the folks at Metametrix would be interested in this. I doubt they can talk to you directly, but can you get a doc to do it on your behalf? There's always the possibility of a lab error, and you'd hate to be going in circles about a result that could be for some reason in error (nothing's perfect)!!! I honestly think they'd be interested in finding out about a person who eats no meat and no corn and still has elevated AA. My kids once had a very strange result once on a Great Smokies/Genova test, and Hanford himself checked into it for me due to the fact Dr. McCandless suggested I contact him. Because it was " weird " he was very interested. I'd say there's a good chance Metametrix would be, too. Can't hurt to try! Best wishes, > > > > I don't know. Even the SED rate doesn't show you where the > inflammation is - only that it's present. Our daughter is high in > arachidonic acid. A DAN! doctor tested her fatty acids and it came > back extremely high. He suggested that she stop eating so much meat. > But, our daughter has NEVER eaten meat so I didn't really know what to > do. This doctor was from Colorado and we had a one time consultation > in Austin with him. Dr. McCandless said that most of ASD kids would > have inflammation - I can't even remember why our daughter had the SED > rate test in the first place. I'm sure she's always had inflammation. > If the SED rate is normal then I suppose you have inflammation under > control - but I don't know. > > Shari > > Sedimentation rate > > > > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 , Thanks. I wonder if anything is really as it seems. The toy scare from China??? Maybe, she's getting something in foods that I don't know about or from other sources. Shari Sedimentation rate > > > > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Christel, Our daughter is taking LDN. We started several weeks ago and I'm hoping that will help. She has an appt. on Aug.30 and I'm going to see if her SED rate has dropped since starting the LDN. I haven't started any other anti-inflammatory during this time because I wanted a true picture of what the LDN may or may not be doing as far as inflammation in concerned. We've tried several brands of CLO - they just seem very strong . She even spaces out if she drinks too much V8 juice if Vit.E is added. Carrots make her spacey, too. She loves the new V8-fusion but I only give her a little at a time. She's really doing so much better since starting the LDN - in all areas except constipation. Shari Sedimentation rate > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 vit E is soy based it sounds like she is an opiate kid to soy. Nordic naturals, twin labs and carelsons all have osy in there stuff. kirkmans and yasko's are the only ones i have found that are soy free....with being on LDN you will want to be careful to NOT have soy as it can mess with the results Sedimentation rate > > > Excuse my ignorance on this, but if a sedimentation rate is normal > can one be sure there is not a problem with inflammation? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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