Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hi.. all.. my gentle 15 year old.. easy going son... has now has issues with growing up.. from what he says.. he tells me... NO.. grow up.. grow down... measure down. He pairs this up with asking me over and over.. " is thomas the tank engine for big kids or little kids? he says.. he is not a big boy.. a little boy... ok.. the problem here he escalates if his teachers don't validate this.. he is highly anxious and I suspect seeking reassurance that his beloved toys and characters will be with him to ease his anxiety. He gets very " spooked " lately.. obessiing over fires... crashes.. and this will result in him refusing to get on or off the van to his summer program and scaring to death the driver. To top it off.. he is now going after teachers and peers to hit them. Today.. I lost van service to his summer program due to the driver getting hit. I never experienced this with my son. Tantrums.. yes... but we worked through them. His teacher in the fall.. he had her last year.. says.. the change is being a teen.. and is struggling with growing up. His psychiatrist whom he saw years ago... I called her and she said it sounds like adolensence... and to work with him on growing up.. but yet.. when he has these fits... or escalates into screaming he wants to be a little boy... I can't help wondering if it is a panic attack. His sister started them at age 15 and deals with it... my mother has anxiety attacks .. really severe. HELP.... anything natural I can start him on? he is a big kid at 200 lbs... thanks.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hi.. just a few thoughts. If this has been sudden change, I would personally not discount the " adolesence " advice but I would also rule out gut bugs and metabolic imbalances-including any issues with diet. Have you done an OAT or CSA since this happened or checked Aminos?? There are many naturals that work well for anxiety including 5HTP, IP6, Inositol etc etc. You need to start anything low and slow and make sure it combines with what you are using already or might add. RX like oxytocin has helped many socially also but not all -somethign else to explore with your son's doctor perhaps. Some benefit from B6 and Magnesium and omegas which most children are already taking. I am not sure what your child's protocol is but I'd try to get with my DAN! and get some basic tests done to see if this is something that could be corrected with supplementation, RX and/or diet along with working behaviorially with the child. The aggression can sometimes be bacteria related so it would be worth it IMHO to explore all the basic options as you move ahead if you have not done that already. You and others with older children are such heroes and I wish you the very best in figuring this out. Moderator > > hi.. all.. my gentle 15 year old.. easy going son... has now has issues with > growing up.. from what he says.. he tells me... NO.. grow up.. grow down... > measure down. He pairs this up with asking me over and over.. " is thomas the > tank engine for big kids or little kids? he says.. he is not a big boy.. a > little boy... ok.. the problem here he escalates if his teachers don't validate > this.. he is highly anxious and I suspect seeking reassurance that his > beloved toys and characters will be with him to ease his anxiety. He gets very > " spooked " lately.. obessiing over fires... crashes.. and this will result in > him refusing to get on or off the van to his summer program and scaring to > death the driver. To top it off.. he is now going after teachers and peers to > hit them. Today.. I lost van service to his summer program due to the driver > getting hit. I never experienced this with my son. Tantrums.. yes... but we > worked through them. His teacher in the fall.. he had her last year.. says.. the > change is being a teen.. and is struggling with growing up. His psychiatrist > whom he saw years ago... I called her and she said it sounds like > adolensence... and to work with him on growing up.. but yet.. when he has these fits... > or escalates into screaming he wants to be a little boy... I can't help > wondering if it is a panic attack. His sister started them at age 15 and deals > with it... my mother has anxiety attacks .. really severe. HELP.... anything > natural I can start him on? he is a big kid at 200 lbs... thanks.. Lia > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 sounds like someone has told this boy that he is a big boy and can't have his little boy toys anymore so he simpley put doesn't want to be a big boy then, sudden fear hi.. all.. my gentle 15 year old.. easy going son... has now has issues with growing up.. from what he says.. he tells me... NO.. grow up.. grow down... measure down. He pairs this up with asking me over and over.. " is thomas the tank engine for big kids or little kids? he says.. he is not a big boy.. a little boy... ok.. the problem here he escalates if his teachers don't validate this.. he is highly anxious and I suspect seeking reassurance that his beloved toys and characters will be with him to ease his anxiety. He gets very " spooked " lately.. obessiing over fires... crashes.. and this will result in him refusing to get on or off the van to his summer program and scaring to death the driver. To top it off.. he is now going after teachers and peers to hit them. Today.. I lost van service to his summer program due to the driver getting hit. I never experienced this with my son. Tantrums.. yes... but we worked through them. His teacher in the fall.. he had her last year.. says.. the change is being a teen.. and is struggling with growing up. His psychiatrist whom he saw years ago... I called her and she said it sounds like adolensence... and to work with him on growing up.. but yet.. when he has these fits... or escalates into screaming he wants to be a little boy... I can't help wondering if it is a panic attack. His sister started them at age 15 and deals with it... my mother has anxiety attacks .. really severe. HELP.... anything natural I can start him on? he is a big kid at 200 lbs... thanks.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 hi.. exactly... I hear him talking to himself.. about " teenager " ... " little boy " ... last night.. he brought his trains downstairs... to the family room... and said.. " christos is a little boy playing with his trains " ... he also asked to watch the movie.. Night in the museum.. which we both did... laying on the couch. yesterday at his day program... he hit 3 times at the end of the day.. after a great day... I had told him that morning.. if you hit.. then no mcdonalds. he gets the salads and fruit. well... I told him.. no mcdonalds because you hit. Hitting is bad. He listened to his seventies music and kept asking to go to mcdonalds.. I said.. no... you hit.. maybe on august 22.. we will go to mcdonalds if you don't hit. He said.. NO AUGUST 22... AUGUST 15... I said. no. you cannot hit. Well... he was annoyed but not upset. when we were approaching the intersection of the golden arches.. he said.. " make right turn " ... I said.. no... you hit your teacher. He was annoyed... a few minutes later.. he said... mcdonalds on august 22... I told him.. that is right.. if you don't hit your teachers. He was fine.. the rest of the night. This morning he got up.. I work later in the day.. and he was banned from going to ride the horse at his day program.. fearful of his high pitch screaming willl scare the horses when he might have a melt down due to the big boy , little boy validation seeking. anyway.. he got me up.. said. .hi mommy.. get up.. I said. " why do you want me to get up " .. he said.. I want breakfast... he struggles in answering why questions and I see a surge in this... I hope the hitting stops... peace, Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 he eats plain salad... and the fruit.. no yogurt... I am just asking for thoughts... you sound very harsh.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I assume then if he is eating at Mcs he is not gluten free casein free as there is nothing you can eat there on the diet Re: sudden fear hi.. exactly... I hear him talking to himself.. about " teenager " ... " little boy " ... last night.. he brought his trains downstairs... to the family room... and said.. " christos is a little boy playing with his trains " ... he also asked to watch the movie.. Night in the museum.. which we both did... laying on the couch. yesterday at his day program... he hit 3 times at the end of the day.. after a great day... I had told him that morning.. if you hit.. then no mcdonalds. he gets the salads and fruit. well... I told him.. no mcdonalds because you hit. Hitting is bad. He listened to his seventies music and kept asking to go to mcdonalds.. I said.. no... you hit.. maybe on august 22.. we will go to mcdonalds if you don't hit. He said.. NO AUGUST 22... AUGUST 15... I said. no. you cannot hit. Well... he was annoyed but not upset. when we were approaching the intersection of the golden arches.. he said.. " make right turn " ... I said.. no... you hit your teacher. He was annoyed... a few minutes later.. he said... mcdonalds on august 22... I told him.. that is right.. if you don't hit your teachers. He was fine.. the rest of the night. This morning he got up.. I work later in the day.. and he was banned from going to ride the horse at his day program.. fearful of his high pitch screaming willl scare the horses when he might have a melt down due to the big boy , little boy validation seeking. anyway.. he got me up.. said. .hi mommy.. get up.. I said. " why do you want me to get up " .. he said.. I want breakfast... he struggles in answering why questions and I see a surge in this... I hope the hitting stops... peace, Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 not trying to be harsh, but depending on how they wash the knives, where they cut the foods ect, and I believe the fruits are caoted with something to keep them from turning brown that makes them not gfcf. this would account for my child having fears or weird behavoirals. I was just trying to help you brain storm on what could be making him this way. not trying to judge just help.....have you looked at the Mcdonalds site to see what they have for allergen warnings? Re: sudden fear he eats plain salad... and the fruit.. no yogurt... I am just asking for thoughts... you sound very harsh.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 ok.. no offense taken.. thanks.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 hi.. all.. I researched a bit on panic disorders.. since my daughter has it and so does my mom.. with her high anxiety attacks, as well. The article was good... they suggested an all natural approach... GABA, glycine, gluatamine.. L-theanine and the herbal supplement 5HTP... do I give him all? only one? how much? he is 200 lbs.. he is already on DMG... Omega 3's... any help is good.. thanks.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 no... I am not.. but will try.. lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 are you doing folic acid with the DMG< some times DMG with out folic acid can do weird things to. GABA works faster then 5HTP Re: sudden fear hi.. all.. I researched a bit on panic disorders.. since my daughter has it and so does my mom.. with her high anxiety attacks, as well. The article was good... they suggested an all natural approach... GABA, glycine, gluatamine.. L-theanine and the herbal supplement 5HTP... do I give him all? only one? how much? he is 200 lbs.. he is already on DMG... Omega 3's... any help is good.. thanks.. Lia ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I would introduce one at a time so you can tell what is working. There are also combo supplements that have many of these ingredients. Another thought. I have a friend who is treating her children via a DAN doctor, both with anxiety issues. And she has had great success treating them after they were both diagnosed with pyroluria. She says they have made more progress over the past month then she has ever seen. I am getting my daughter tested next week. Your son sounds alot like my daughter in his speech mannerisms. She went through a period starting a couple years back an lasting one and off for a couple years where she would yell, " I want to be a baby, waa waa!! Am I a big girl or a baby?! " When we answered " big girl " , she would have a melt down. It was really bad for awhile, with ongoing tantruming and melt downs. I think alot of it had(she is 10 almost 11 now) We thought it had to do with her having younger siblings who were getting alot of attention, especially her brother still being a baby. It has kind of peetered off as they have gotten older and started going to preschool and k-garten. I think some of it was anxiety that she was going to school and the sibs were home getting my attention. Or maybe it was because they got alot of babyish stuff that she still enjoys playing with. Or it could have been comparison anxiety as she could see she was older in relation to them. I don't know but it rarely rears its head now. We tried to give alot of hugs and reassurance, but it just made her escalate further. Good luck on finding a solution! > > hi.. all.. I researched a bit on panic disorders.. since my daughter has it > and so does my mom.. with her high anxiety attacks, as well. The article was > good... they suggested an all natural approach... GABA, glycine, gluatamine.. > L-theanine and the herbal supplement 5HTP... do I give him all? only one? > how much? he is 200 lbs.. he is already on DMG... Omega 3's... any help is > good.. thanks.. Lia > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I know the percentages are low, but for what it is worth, Valtrex was the answer to our prayers for my son. He had became extremely paranoid to the point that he could no longer function in a school setting, go outside, or leave my sight in general. I know it may not be associated, but then again, it could. With our son, Valtrex worked like an overnight miracle. You might consider giving it a try. If you don't see results with the right dosage, in about a month, you probably will not see the dramatic change we did. Definitely worth a try though. Jen > > > > hi.. all.. I researched a bit on panic disorders.. since my > daughter has it > > and so does my mom.. with her high anxiety attacks, as well. The > article was > > good... they suggested an all natural approach... GABA, glycine, > gluatamine.. > > L-theanine and the herbal supplement 5HTP... do I give him all? > only one? > > how much? he is 200 lbs.. he is already on DMG... Omega 3's... > any help is > > good.. thanks.. Lia > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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