Re: IEP

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim, my son is also 11 and is AS and we are in the catholic school board. The IEP in my experience is great it will help the school get any funding it needs inorder to help your son manage through the day at school. Also it will help the teachers understand him and they will show appropriate responces to behaviour that the other kids will see as different or even weird.that This will be good modeling for the other children in the class to show them how to react which in turn will help your son be more excepted and fit in better. The only down side to the IEP is that in order to get funding some of the behaviours may be exagerrated, but I wouldn't worry about that, the important thing is that your son gets the best education possible. The IEP is a living document and you can change it if you need to or you can stop it at any time. Have you been to an IPRC yet? Indepandant Placement Review Committee. That is where all the imformation and assessments on your son will be evaluated and he will be placed in the best learning enviornment. All the accommodations and modifications will be put into action and you will see this on his IEP. As far as insurance goes I don't know but I do know that the IEP is not a medical diagnosis and it is strickly confidential. I hope this helps you out. I rarely speek on this site but I am always here listening to everyone elses great advice.

Kennedy

IEP

I had planned to get an IEP (Individualized Education Program), which is basically an assessment of my 11 yr old son whom I suspect has AS. It'll be done by the public school system at my request. We're seeing unusual and unmanageable behaviors at home. With a diagnosis from the IEP, I assume we can start intervention at a relatively early age.

Please let me know if there are any downsides to the IEP that might have a negative impact for my son in connection with insurance or other matters. I'm wondering whether or not we should move ahead with the IEP.

Thanks. Jim

[Guest guest]

Only a medical diagnosis will effect insurance. Educational is only about what behaviors or individual deficits that effect his ability to get an educational assessment. They really don't care about his behaviors outside of school.

I would check with your insurance company about any benefits they might have for autism. Most don't cover it. Some might cover short term OT, speech so if your son's problems don't fall in those areas I might not get a medical dx.

Is he having problems at school?

Lorelie

To: aspires-relationships From: jim7000@...Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:42:39 -0800Subject: IEP

I had planned to get an IEP (Individualized Education Program), which is basically an assessment of my 11 yr old son whom I suspect has AS. It'll be done by the public school system at my request. We're seeing unusual and unmanageable behaviors at home. With a diagnosis from the IEP, I assume we can start intervention at a relatively early age.

Please let me know if there are any downsides to the IEP that might have a negative impact for my son in connection with insurance or other matters. I'm wondering whether or not we should move ahead with the IEP.

Thanks. Jim

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[Guest guest]

We have gone through the RTI and IEP process many times between our sons. The RTI process is the observation, diagnosis, and acceptance or denial of a child into the program. The IEP process is the evaluations they do once the child has been placed in the programs, whether 504 or complete special ed. I have found the IEP process to be pretty good. It established measurable goals and then evaluates those goals twice a year. You have the right to call an IEP meeting when ever you feel there be a need as well. The IEP meeting will include you, your sons teacher, any therapist (speech, OT, PT, etc) your son sees through the school and a school administrator, the principal usually. This keeps everyone on the same page.

The RTI process is different. It is the process they go through to determine your sons eligibility. I have found that this is the point where you really need to be proactive in getting your son the help he needs to succeed in the system. I have found that it is very helpful to know your rights going in. You may want to look up the freedom to education act, the IDEA, and your own school districts policies. The school system is not your adversary but you are the one who knows your child better than anyone else. You will be his advocate through out his whole school career. As wonderful as the teachers, therapist, etc are they can change from year to year. You are the only one who has the full picture. I have found that if you go into these meetings well educated you get better results.

Hope this helps.

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From: Jim

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:42 AM

To: Aspire

Subject: IEP

I had planned to get an IEP (Individualized Education Program), which is basically an assessment of my 11 yr old son whom I suspect has AS. It'll be done by the public school system at my request. We're seeing unusual and unmanageable behaviors at home. With a diagnosis from the IEP, I assume we can start intervention at a relatively early age.

Please let me know if there are any downsides to the IEP that might have a negative impact for my son in connection with insurance or other matters. I'm wondering whether or not we should move ahead with the IEP.

Thanks. Jim

[Guest guest]

That is a very good point. We have found it is beneficial to have both. The medical diagnosis has helped in making sure the education system lives up to it's responsibility to our son. WE did not have any problems in VA but here in TX we have had a lot of issues. It is really important to know what the policies of your district are. Unfortunately we have found in our district they did not live up to Federal Law. When shown the discrepancy they have about faced and things are going more smoothly.

You need to know what your rights and responsibilities are going in. Other wise they can run all over you, if they so choose. I am not slamming any school because we have found the teachers to be absolutely wonderful. Sometimes their hands are tied by out dated policies. Every district and state is different but the Federal law stays the same

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From: Lorelie @ YOUNG

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:36 AM

To: aspires-relationships

Subject: RE: IEP

Only a medical diagnosis will effect insurance. Educational is only about what behaviors or individual deficits that effect his ability to get an educational assessment. They really don't care about his behaviors outside of school. I would check with your insurance company about any benefits they might have for autism. Most don't cover it. Some might cover short term OT, speech so if your son's problems don't fall in those areas I might not get a medical dx. Is he having problems at school? Lorelie

To: aspires-relationships From: jim7000rocketmailDate: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:42:39 -0800Subject: IEP

I had planned to get an IEP (Individualized Education Program), which is basically an assessment of my 11 yr old son whom I suspect has AS. It'll be done by the public school system at my request. We're seeing unusual and unmanageable behaviors at home. With a diagnosis from the IEP, I assume we can start intervention at a relatively early age.

Please let me know if there are any downsides to the IEP that might have a negative impact for my son in connection with insurance or other matters. I'm wondering whether or not we should move ahead with the IEP.

Thanks. Jim

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lorelie and everyone,

We gave him speech and hand-writing therapy and it was effective. He's average in school academically. He doesn't have friends, but gets along okay. There had been bullying in the past, but that seems to have stopped. The real problems are at home: eating disorder, obsessive cleanliness, excessive and constant nagging & whining at home, extreme negativity. Jim

To: aspires-relationships <aspires-relationships >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:36:51 AMSubject: RE: IEP

Only a medical diagnosis will effect insurance. Educational is only about what behaviors or individual deficits that effect his ability to get an educational assessment. They really don't care about his behaviors outside of school. I would check with your insurance company about any benefits they might have for autism. Most don't cover it. Some might cover short term OT, speech so if your son's problems don't fall in those areas I might not get a medical dx. Is he having problems at school? Lorelie

To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: jim7000rocketmail (DOT) comDate: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:42:39 -0800Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] IEP

I had planned to get an IEP (Individualized Education Program), which is basically an assessment of my 11 yr old son whom I suspect has AS. It'll be done by the public school system at my request. We're seeing unusual and unmanageable behaviors at home. With a diagnosis from the IEP, I assume we can start intervention at a relatively early age.

Please let me know if there are any downsides to the IEP that might have a negative impact for my son in connection with insurance or other matters. I'm wondering whether or not we should move ahead with the IEP.

Thanks. Jim

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[Guest guest]

Hi--

I thought the same thing as .

In my views, it is of how much the child is aware and conscious of his being.

I remember that I was in seventh and eight grade and I needed to have corrective shoes.

I hated them and I was aware that I was going to be a target for bulling from other students. I also did not like the shoes, so that made things worst for me. I was embarrassed, but I was aware of it.

I know it is different than being embarrassed from an IEP. Yet if it happened to me at school, I would have probably be sensitive because of that, but at the end my dad would have done what was best for me "in his views".

I was tutored at home though by the teacher who taught me in the school, it was always best that way. I had no distractions at all, and I could concentrate better.

In my views it is really important for a child to get it. I am not sure she soul wait too much longer, after all it is for the sake of your child!

God Bless,

.

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[Guest guest]

Is she concerned about your kid being embarrassed or about herself being embarrassed for having a kid with an IEP?

IEP

If my wife whom I believe has AS, does not want to go forward with the IEP for my son whom I believe has AS, what do I do?

My wife's main concern is that the school observation part isn't that discreet and can be embarrassing for kids. She's seen it as a teacher's aid. At that point staff and students become aware of it.

So she wants to cancel the whole IEP. I'd appreciate feedback and suggestions. Jim

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[Guest guest]

I believe she's afraid my son will be embarrassed from having someone (the psythologist) monitor him at school. She said it's not that discreet and staff and students will likely know it's for my son.

I thought a work-around would be to ask the psychologist involved to not do that part of the assessment. Still my wife doesn't believe they'd follow the request and wants to cancel. Jim

To: aspires-relationships Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:20:44 PMSubject: Re: IEP

Is she concerned about your kid being embarrassed or about herself being embarrassed for having a kid with an IEP?

[aspires-relationsh ips] IEP

If my wife whom I believe has AS, does not want to go forward with the IEP for my son whom I believe has AS, what do I do?

My wife's main concern is that the school observation part isn't that discreet and can be embarrassing for kids. She's seen it as a teacher's aid. At that point staff and students become aware of it.

So she wants to cancel the whole IEP. I'd appreciate feedback and suggestions. Jim

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[Guest guest]

Bill,

I understand from reading and from personal experience that at the heart of AS, is a significant lack of empathy. However, far beyond an intense interest, your responses show empathy, compassion and sensitivity. How do you explain that? Jim

To: aspires-relationships Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:08:25 AMSubject: Re: IEP

Jim wrote:> I believe she's afraid my son will be embarrassed from having someone > (the psythologist) monitor him at school. She said it's not that > discreet and staff and students will likely know it's for my son. > > I thought a work-around would be to ask the psychologist involved to not > do that part of the assessment. Still my wife doesn't believe they'd > follow the request and wants to cancel. > > JimHere's where you need the wisdom of , *and* a very clear notion of *exactly* what you want to accomplish regarding:... Your child vs the school system, and... Your wife vs you.Just how disruptive *is* your child? Can you, at all, handle him vs school *without* going the system's route (IEP, etc)??How are you fixed for having your kid visit a private "child psychologist" for awhile?Or/and if need be placing him in a private

AS-oriented school? Or even home-schooling?Personally I think your wife's concerns (in principle) are well founded. It all depends on "The System" - how it may turn out for all three of you.Remember: All the experts in the world don't know your kid like you do. They've not had the time to learn; and never will have either the time or the interest that you do.Good luck!- Bill, 76, dx AS; ...three grown kids, all doing well (one likely AS.)> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> *From:* Jennie Unknown <mossbtweenmetoes@ tds.net>> *To:* aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT)

com> *Sent:* Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:20:44 PM> *Subject:* Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] IEP> > Is she concerned about your kid being embarrassed or about herself being > embarrassed for having a kid with an IEP?- Bill, 76, dx AS-- WD "Bill" Loughman - Berkeley, California USAhttp://home. earthlink. net/~wdloughman/ wdl.htm