Guest guest Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Excellent questions...these things pop into my head daily. Mum to Rose (MDS, 3 years old). I look forward to reading the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 I have a good friend (bff) with MDS. She is married (to someone without MDS), has a 4 year college degree, and two children without MDS; she drives. She is on this group. Maybe she will post? I will contact her. She seems to do well...very well. > > ..Im interested to learn about the people with MDS, as my daughter is 11, Im wondering what the future holds for her. If anyone could answer these questions I would be greatful: > > Does anyone with MDS have a driver licence for example? > Do you have a job and how do you find working? > Do you live independantly? > Are you married? > Did you finish school with any qualifications? > I saw that Casey has a son, thats great! Did having MDS worry you about having children of your own? > > What day to day obstacles do you face which other people without MDS may find easier? > > I know that even kids without MDS may face obstacles and may not get a job/drive etc but Im just trying to guage my hopes for my own daughter, if that make sense?! > > Thanks > Louise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 awesome, sue!  this clarifies it, we're all around you.  Casey Morton: ---------------------------------- IMDSA Self-Advocate/Spokesman www.imdsa.org Morton Programs Management: Founder. www.linkedin.com Blog: http://caseymorton30.blogspot.com/ ----------------------------------------------------  Subject: Re: If you have MDS.. To: MosaicDS Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 11:04 PM  I have a good friend (bff) with MDS. She is married (to someone without MDS), has a 4 year college degree, and two children without MDS; she drives. She is on this group. Maybe she will post? I will contact her. She seems to do well...very well. > > ..Im interested to learn about the people with MDS, as my daughter is 11, Im wondering what the future holds for her. If anyone could answer these questions I would be greatful: > > Does anyone with MDS have a driver licence for example? > Do you have a job and how do you find working? > Do you live independantly? > Are you married? > Did you finish school with any qualifications? > I saw that Casey has a son, thats great! Did having MDS worry you about having children of your own? > > What day to day obstacles do you face which other people without MDS may find easier? > > I know that even kids without MDS may face obstacles and may not get a job/drive etc but Im just trying to guage my hopes for my own daughter, if that make sense?! > > Thanks > Louise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Dear Casey/, I am very much thankful to you both in building confidence and esteem among parents worldwide who all are quite confused on how to proceed. A million questions comes around probably because we have been ignorant on these areas or we might never expected a situation like this even in our dreams. So for all those people, pouring in confidence and strength is really commendable social service. It is a morale booster. What was draining us is actually the so called 'courage' given by the doctors by telling the wrong side of this which includes, your baby will always have heart problem, be allergic to all sort of foods, will be less immune, more chances to have autism, can never undergo a regular education, will have to live up as 'special' children, our life will be miserable and so much crap that we will be lost totally. We were victims and was left out totally isolated. We cried whole day and wondered what to do. He even claimed that it is impossible for a boy to grow up and become a father. This was the end for us. As we all know hope is driving the world. If there is at least 0.0001% possibility, we can be hopeful.. So when Casey informed that he has a son, we had no bounds for our joy.. Slowly we dumped the doctor and started depending on this forum and other areas to educate ourselves. I would also like to inform that based on the negative remarks from the doctor, we had all sorts of test right from heart to toe and surprisingly all results were negative and this puzzled the doctors, who informed that things will creep up on a later stage. If it is for pure money they terrorised us, we could have happily donated them, as nothing is more great than our kids. I must admit that the service you people are doing is simply great and god bless you for giving good direction to bring them up. Thanks and Regards Pramod Sreedharan A budget is just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well as afterward. From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf Of agirlnamedsuess21 Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 04:35 To: MosaicDS Subject: Re: If you have MDS.. I have a good friend (bff) with MDS. She is married (to someone without MDS), has a 4 year college degree, and two children without MDS; she drives. She is on this group. Maybe she will post? I will contact her. She seems to do well...very well. > > ..Im interested to learn about the people with MDS, as my daughter is 11, Im wondering what the future holds for her. If anyone could answer these questions I would be greatful: > > Does anyone with MDS have a driver licence for example? > Do you have a job and how do you find working? > Do you live independantly? > Are you married? > Did you finish school with any qualifications? > I saw that Casey has a son, thats great! Did having MDS worry you about having children of your own? > > What day to day obstacles do you face which other people without MDS may find easier? > > I know that even kids without MDS may face obstacles and may not get a job/drive etc but Im just trying to guage my hopes for my own daughter, if that make sense?! > > Thanks > Louise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 ________________________________ I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? Debbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 It is a growing thing (dual diagnosis) of autism and Down syndrome. My son has both. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Pramod, my son has no heart defects and he has immune dysfunction probably because of the autism. We all have allergies in my family-big deal. My son accomplished major milestones at the same time as my other kids. Then he had regressive autism with his speech. We are getting a handle on that, as that is something I can treat. Removing chromosomes, on the other hand, is NOT one of my specialties. LOL > > > > ..Im interested to learn about the people with MDS, as my daughter is 11, > Im wondering what the future holds for her. If anyone could answer these > questions I would be greatful: > > > > Does anyone with MDS have a driver licence for example? > > Do you have a job and how do you find working? > > Do you live independantly? > > Are you married? > > Did you finish school with any qualifications? > > I saw that Casey has a son, thats great! Did having MDS worry you about > having children of your own? > > > > What day to day obstacles do you face which other people without MDS may > find easier? > > > > I know that even kids without MDS may face obstacles and may not get a > job/drive etc but Im just trying to guage my hopes for my own daughter, if > that make sense?! > > > > Thanks > > Louise > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I forgot to mention they are both neurological conditions. They can coexist or they can occur independently. Common knowledge is growing that those of us with either DS or autism in our families have family histories of neurological issues (for example: ADHD, rhematoid arthritis, and there is a ton more on the list) Basically, there is something in the neurology of the cell and the environmental factors are just a trigger to set whichever condition it is in motion, whether it be chromosmal abnormality or attention deficits. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Check out the s/s of autism. BTW, being friendly is not the same as being social or acting correct in socially acceptable manners. (This is a common misconception in kids with autism.) The top three are impairment in language, impairment of social *skills*, and impairment in behavior adaptations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? > > > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Debbi, I would have her evaluated for autism,as well, by someone who is familiar with dual diagnoses. You mentioned resistence to change, intolerable tantrums, neurological ordering, OCD behaviors, aversion to some noises, asocial behavior outside of you (and my bet is that she is socialable only because of the DS...sounds just like my son), andmemory issues. I am not pointing this out to depress you, but once we started treating my son for autism, he began to recover from these signs. I highly recommend a strict GFCF diet with no HFCS, preservatives, dyes, or nitartes/nitrites. Some remove soy also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? > > > > > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 OMG...DEB DEB DEB...your daughter sound just like my Veronique..very very similar personality and intelligence traits...I have worked hard with her over the years with her social skills..she doesnt want freinds..she does hug if she wants..but is not afraid to tell someone to leave her house if I ahvent warned her beforehand..has no maths skills or money skills..but if you touch her purse she knows exactly how much was in there and if any has been taken...her bed is covered in pillows..she memorises movies but as I have the txt on she will pause it and re write what the actor has said and will reight down the entire movie with credits. She loves to sing and dance..and has issues with long and short term memory. Veronique is 13So pleased to ahve seen you posting..we are going thru a tough stage at the moment with sleeping habits..but that has something to do with being bullied at school..she can be very very stubborn on a train of thought...ie..for a year wouldnt go to loo for winkle when first out of bed..she would hold all day..and then wet herself..why did she do this...I DONT KNOW..lol..no medical reason just Nique not wanting to do as she was told..PeaceNat Subject: Re: If you have MDS.. To: MosaicDS Received: Friday, 13 August, 2010, 2:39 AM Â Debbi, I would have her evaluated for autism,as well, by someone who is familiar with dual diagnoses. You mentioned resistence to change, intolerable tantrums, neurological ordering, OCD behaviors, aversion to some noises, asocial behavior outside of you (and my bet is that she is socialable only because of the DS...sounds just like my son), andmemory issues. I am not pointing this out to depress you, but once we started treating my son for autism, he began to recover from these signs. I highly recommend a strict GFCF diet with no HFCS, preservatives, dyes, or nitartes/nitrites. Some remove soy also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another issue??? > > > > > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 , Kaitee has started therapy at the Kennady Krieger Institue for her behavior issues stemming from being bullied at school, which is a start. Kaitee's eating habbits are pretty set ... chicken , bake potatoe on occassion corn . Lettuce , celery and carrots on occassion spagetti .. but the sauce has to be homemade and placed thru the blender and the meatballs made from chicken. Nat I think I have found Kaitee's soul mate lol... Kaitee to memorizes her tv shows and has books upon books where she sits and rewrites the shows word for word and becasue of her writing skills this is the most tedious job, becasue each letter has to be perfectly formed and her handwriting is so neat and precise it takes her forever to complete a writing assignment. (I have often threatened her teachers that if they rub me the wrong way I would show Kaitee how if she took to rulers and placed them on the paper she could even do a better job of spacing and letter sizing lol) Sleep issues... yes. Right now we are on schedule again with Kaitee sleeping nights and being awake days... but right now her life is stress free.. lol school starts soon so we move into the no sleep mode. I have recently helped her redo her room , and we have had success in making it comfortable for her. She has also found a box of old barbie dolls and stuff and she has sat and played with them from sun up to sundown. Kaitee was bullied at school and started to retaliate against the other kids, in the end she was suspended... which seems like a bad thing however it finally opened the door to getting the help I need to help Kaitee... Your daughter is 13, did her bathroom habits change with the onset of her menstural cycles??? thanks so much to all for sharing with me.. I feel once again like I stand amongst friends not by myself fighting alone. Debbi mom to Kaitee MDS 13 and e 16 ________________________________ To: MosaicDS Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 8:06:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: If you have MDS.. OMG...DEB DEB DEB...your daughter sound just like my Veronique..very very similar personality and intelligence traits...I have worked hard with her over the years with her social skills..she doesnt want freinds..she does hug if she wants..but is not afraid to tell someone to leave her house if I ahvent warned her beforehand..has no maths skills or money skills..but if you touch her purse she knows exactly how much was in there and if any has been taken...her bed is covered in pillows..she memorises movies but as I have the txt on she will pause it and re write what the actor has said and will reight down the entire movie with credits. She loves to sing and dance..and has issues with long and short term memory. Veronique is 13So pleased to ahve seen you posting..we are going thru a tough stage at the moment with sleeping habits..but that has something to do with being bullied at school..she can be very very stubborn on a train of thought...ie..for a year wouldnt go to loo for winkle when first out of bed..she would hold all day..and then wet herself..why did she do this...I DONT KNOW..lol..no medical reason just Nique not wanting to do as she was told..PeaceNat Subject: Re: If you have MDS.. To: MosaicDS Received: Friday, 13 August, 2010, 2:39 AM Debbi, I would have her evaluated for autism,as well, by someone who is familiar with dual diagnoses. You mentioned resistence to change, intolerable tantrums, neurological ordering, OCD behaviors, aversion to some noises, asocial behavior outside of you (and my bet is that she is socialable only because of the DS...sounds just like my son), andmemory issues. I am not pointing this out to depress you, but once we started treating my son for autism, he began to recover from these signs. I highly recommend a strict GFCF diet with no HFCS, preservatives, dyes, or nitartes/nitrites. Some remove soy also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a separate > > > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing back > > > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another >issue??? > > > > > > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yes, ADHD (aka ADD for the inattebtive type like we have) IS being considered as part of the ASD. They are about to change the DSM to reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > I was wondering how does the Autism fit in with our kids?? Is it a > > separate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues or just another part of the MDS?? I have gotton kaitee's testing > > back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and she is Autistic. Is this something that stems from MDS or another > > > > >issue??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Debbi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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