Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 I have not heard of any of these agents causing early puberty. However, whether it is just autism or the effect of mercury on our kids, reports have been coming out about bigger sizes of kids, especially head sizes, and higher growth hormone levels. I know the Geiers are using Lupron to cut down the levels of testosterone which they report facilitates chelation of mercury - apparently the testosterone and mercury form an unholy alliance and this prevents easy release of the mercury until testosterone gets lowered. The azone anti-fungals, esp Nizoral, do actually lower testosterone, so when boys are quite " testosteronic " many doctors are using Nizoral rather than the tried and true and safer diflucan because of the testosterone-lowering aspect. Dr. JM --- and Daron Freedberg wrote: > Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or > fluconozol, > either combined or on their own, can cause early > puberty? My 8 1/2 > year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems > so early to me. > Thanks so much, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I am going to throw in a thought here .... My NT daughter was starting into precocious puberty at 3. We took her to an endocrinologist ... many many test later to try and establish why she was developing boobs and genital hairs .... it turns out the hair grease we were putting on her hair had growth hormones in it.... When we quit using it and went to all natural products ... growth issues went away.... She is a typical 7 year old today ...actually kinda small for her age .... but we had to go all natural with her ... strictly organic / no hormone products... Melinda > > > Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or > > fluconozol, > > either combined or on their own, can cause early > > puberty? My 8 1/2 > > year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems > > so early to me. > > Thanks so much, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 8.5 years is not far from what's considered the lower end of the normal range for males (boys). Furthermore, endocrine disrupting chemicals have become ubiquitous in the environment and in most and perhaps all human bodies so tested. Overall, 8.5 doesn't seem too early for a few pubic hairs. I've seen a case of true precocious puberty - the 3.5 y/o girl was already well along into adolescent-like breast development. Disorders of Puberty - July 1999 - American Academy of Family ... *--The Tanner stages of puberty in boys are based on the development of the genitalia and pubic hair distribution. Mean age of milestone attainment is shown ... http://www.aafp.org/afp/990700ap/209.html - 70k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Puberty Guide in Adolescents Puberty normally occurs in a series of five stages (Tanner stages) that typically begin within the ages of 8 and 13 for girls and 9 and 14 for boys. Puberty ... http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/adolescent/puberty.html stages of puberty: boys tanner stages of puberty. boys. In boys, the visible indications of puberty occur as a result of changes in tissues which contain testosterone receptors. ... http://www.fathermag.com/health/puberty/timing/tanner/boys/ - 23k - Cached - Puberty in Boys and Girls A technical overview of normal development during puberty, including pictures with the Tanner stages and pubertal milestones for boys and girls, ... http://pediatrics.about.com/od/puberty/Puberty_in_Boys_and_Girls.htm - 22k - - - - - early puberty Posted by: " and Daron Freedberg " mdfreedberg@... Date: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:12 pm ((PDT)) Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or fluconozol, either combined or on their own, can cause early puberty? My 8 1/2 year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems so early to me. Thanks so much, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 We used Valtrex and Diflucan with our daughter. She's 12 3/4 and has just started showing signs of puberty. It didn't impact her at all as far as early development. We bought her a bra just because she wanted one so badly - but she just doesn't have anything to put in it. She's lean, tall and straight as an arrow. Shari early puberty Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or fluconozol, either combined or on their own, can cause early puberty? My 8 1/2 year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems so early to me. Thanks so much, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 - my son was around the same age as yours when he started with pubic hair. He is going to be 11 soon and has under arm hair, as well as the cutest mustache - I hate trying to shave it - but I don't want to let it grow as how many 11 year olds can grow a mustache? My son has never been on the things you mention. My typical daughter got her period when she was almost 10 years old. It was very traumatic for her. I felt so bad - having to deal with bleeding every month. I guess in my household, it starts early. Although none of my brothers/sisters-in-law/brothers-in-law have had their kids start as young as mine. - early puberty Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or fluconozol, either combined or on their own, can cause early puberty? My 8 1/2 year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems so early to me. Thanks so much, <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li ..ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o {font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Dr JM, Theresa, and all the amazing parents who responded to my question, Thank you so much for responding, I really appreciate the info and support. Theresa, I especially appreciate the articles and the time you took to find them. Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 If the child is autistic, then early puberty is most likely not a heriditary trait --early puberty is based on mercury toxicity. Selavka wrote: - my son was around the same age as yours when he started with pubic hair. He is going to be 11 soon and has under arm hair, as well as the cutest mustache - I hate trying to shave it - but I don't want to let it grow as how many 11 year olds can grow a mustache? My son has never been on the things you mention. My typical daughter got her period when she was almost 10 years old. It was very traumatic for her. I felt so bad - having to deal with bleeding every month. I guess in my household, it starts early. Although none of my brothers/sisters-in-law/brothers-in-law have had their kids start as young as mine. - early puberty Is there any evidence that valtrex, tenex, celexa or fluconozol, either combined or on their own, can cause early puberty? My 8 1/2 year old is sprouting a few pubic hairs and it seems so early to me. Thanks so much, <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li ..ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o {font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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