Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 " Just got them today. I didn't ask for my AQ test, since I've taken the test twice, with " loose " and " strict " rules of answering. To make it more of a challenge, my clinician said I should answer " impulsively, " that is, go with my first impulse and not bother to think about the answer. That way, I'd have three guides to go by. " This sounds very peculiar to me. I cannot imagine why you would be asked to do the test 3 different ways. The IQ test is not necessary for dx. IQ is not mentioned in DSM-IV so if they are basing dx on this information, i would wonder if the diagnostician knows what he/she is doing. The whole thing sounds weird actually. I am amazed that the diagnostician is letting you drive the process. That can happen in therapy, but in diagnosis, the diagnostician controls the interactions. That's probably why we were able to skip the second session, (plus insistance that I use a pen because I cannot stand the ound of a pencil eroding graphsite onto paper - it's OK if other people do it, but I hate to feel it through my bones), played with Silly Putty when I wasn't using my hands for writing, and talked perservatively about my self-diagnostic explorations. Anyway, the scores are 127 verbal IQ, and 113 performance IQ. As I suggested to the psychologist, *look past* the fact that I'm " smart, " and look at the *wide gap* between my hyperlexic verbal functioning and my better-than-average performance IQ. To " see " the developmental disorder in my IQ score, you can't look at " 100 " as the " normal " IQ score. You have to look at my verbal IQ of 127 as the normal, and see that I am " retarded " in comparison to *myself.* That, and of course the fact that with my high IQ, education, and experience, I'm making $6.50 an hour working third shift at a gas station... AND I'M SUSPENDED, TOO, because of an incident involving myself, a boxcutter, and a co-worker who was annoying me. Huzzah for meltdowns - they're not just for breakfast anymore! __________________________________________________________________ New! Unlimited Access from the Netscape Internet Service. Beta test the new Netscape Internet Service for only $1.00 per month until 3/1/04. Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Act now to get a personalized email address! Netscape. Just the Net You Need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 No clue why they'd ask for me to do the AQ three times, but it seems like the general pattern, considering the huge number of times I've done the WAIS-R IQ test. (This time it was the WAIS-III - I guess they updated since I was last " lost in the system " ). RE: Digest Number 829 > " Just got them today. I didn't ask for my AQ test, since I've taken the test > twice, with " loose " and " strict " rules of answering. To make it more of a > challenge, my clinician said I should answer " impulsively, " that is, go with > my first impulse and not bother to think about the answer. That way, I'd > have three guides to go by. " > > This sounds very peculiar to me. I cannot imagine why you would be asked to do the test 3 different ways. The IQ test is not necessary for dx. IQ is not mentioned in DSM-IV so if they are basing dx on this information, i would wonder if the diagnostician knows what he/she is doing. The whole thing sounds weird actually. I am amazed that the diagnostician is letting you drive the process. That can happen in therapy, but in diagnosis, the diagnostician controls the interactions. > > > That's probably why we were able to skip the > second session, (plus insistance that I use a pen because I cannot stand the > ound of a pencil eroding graphsite onto paper - it's OK if other people do > it, but I hate to feel it through my bones), played with Silly Putty when I > wasn't using my hands for writing, and talked perservatively about my > self-diagnostic explorations. > > Anyway, the scores are 127 verbal IQ, and 113 performance IQ. As I > suggested to the psychologist, *look past* the fact that I'm " smart, " and > look at the *wide gap* between my hyperlexic verbal functioning and my > better-than-average performance IQ. To " see " the developmental disorder in > my IQ score, you can't look at " 100 " as the " normal " IQ score. You have to > look at my verbal IQ of 127 as the normal, and see that I am " retarded " in > comparison to *myself.* That, and of course the fact that with my high IQ, > education, and experience, I'm making $6.50 an hour working third shift at a > gas station... AND I'M SUSPENDED, TOO, because of an incident involving > myself, a boxcutter, and a co-worker who was annoying me. > > Huzzah for meltdowns - they're not just for breakfast anymore! > > > __________________________________________________________________ > New! Unlimited Access from the Netscape Internet Service. > Beta test the new Netscape Internet Service for only $1.00 per month until 3/1/04. > Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > Act now to get a personalized email address! > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 That is kind of interesting why they'd have you take it 3 times. Did they average it out? > > Reply-To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:02:57 -0600 > To: <AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 829 > > No clue why they'd ask for me to do the AQ three times, but it seems like > the general pattern, considering the huge number of times I've done the > WAIS-R IQ test. (This time it was the WAIS-III - I guess they updated since > I was last " lost in the system " ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Kaiden Fox wrote: > No clue why they'd ask for me to do the AQ three times, but it seems > like the general pattern, considering the huge number of times I've > done the WAIS-R IQ test. (This time it was the WAIS-III - I guess > they updated since I was last " lost in the system " ). The WAIS is only valid the first time you take it. I had a discussion about this with the autism research people who administered the WAIS for me a year ago. If you already know the last object assembly is a butterfly, it is going to be very quick for you to assemble. I am surprised that they would administer it more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 oh, it's a test that is available online from a number of websites. I took it twice *online* before I ever asked about getting a proper diagnosis. Re: Digest Number 829 > > > > No clue why they'd ask for me to do the AQ three times, but it seems like > > the general pattern, considering the huge number of times I've done the > > WAIS-R IQ test. (This time it was the WAIS-III - I guess they updated since > > I was last " lost in the system " ). > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Oh, I know about the test, I've probably taken it about 10 times & got a different score every time. I was just kinda surprised that an actual doctor would have you take it more than once! Norah > > Reply-To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:39:27 -0600 > To: <AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 829 > > oh, it's a test that is available online from a number of websites. > > I took it twice *online* before I ever asked about getting a proper > diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Yeah, sorry for my lack of detail in communication. I was surprised to see a doctor giving it to me at all, considering that it's mostly a *personality trait* test, and not so much a test of developmental aptitude itself. But, considering that this is the one test no clinician has given me since the day my mother first suspected that this non-talkative little boy who disdained human touch and enjoyed making large stacks out of his toy blocks but never actually *created* anything just *might* be an autistic, that after over a decade and a half of her TRYING to get me the correct diagnosis has finally given me *something resembling* a correct diagnosis, the Baron-Cohen AQ test is a *truly wonderful* tool that every clinical psychologist should know about and have the ability to print off of wired.com's website. Re: Digest Number 829 > > > > oh, it's a test that is available online from a number of websites. > > > > I took it twice *online* before I ever asked about getting a proper > > diagnosis. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 That's great!!!! I remember someone was going in to see Simon Baron-Cohen to be diagnosed, and one of the things they had to complete before going there was the AQ test but I didn't realize other doctors had started to use it too. but it makes sense. I've been given the Gilliam Asperger Scale, and the last doctor I saw didn't use any formal tests but asked a lot of questions about my childhood & how I am now, using the DSM-IV and other criteria. > > Reply-To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:16:18 -0600 > To: <AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 829 > > But, considering that this is the one test no clinician has given me since > the day my mother first suspected that this non-talkative little boy who > disdained human touch and enjoyed making large stacks out of his toy blocks > but never actually *created* anything just *might* be an autistic, that > after over a decade and a half of her TRYING to get me the correct diagnosis > has finally given me *something resembling* a correct diagnosis, the > Baron-Cohen AQ test is a *truly wonderful* tool that every clinical > psychologist should know about and have the ability to print off of > wired.com's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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