Re: Br et al

[Guest guest]

Could someone help me out here, please? It is Thursday morning, here,

the Ides of March. I am in my second day of trying to act like an

obedient child (which is contrary to much of my temperament and

personal history, but not -- thank G-d [as Toni used to say] all of

it). I had rather extensive dental surgery yesterday; can't yet

chew, am forbidden to exercise for three days ... and other such yuk-

like things.

So I'm a little low on energy and could use an assist. Just now

found this very interesting post of Alice's but can't figure out what

preceded it. Is there a background of exchanges here on list to this

post?

Thanx for any assistance -- I'll now go back and read it again in

simple enjoyment of and interest in a long fascinating post.

love and greetings to all,

marte

>

> He has always been open to astrology n is a Zen monk, as well. He

is one of

> those bridges fr RC to Aquarius! I have known him for 34 yrs n met

him also at

> the Benedictine Grange, Wainwright House, at Transpersonal Psych

events et

> al. He is a truly lovely man. Wise n unassuming, sensitive yet

strong.

>

> ----------------------

> Speaking of wisdom, here's a neat quote fr circa 1037 A.D.

>

> Wisdom comes in five stages: The first stage is silence. The second

stage is

> listening. The third stage is assimilating. The fourth stage is

practising.

> The fifth stage is teaching.

>

> ibn

Gabirol [spain]

>

> He lived at one of the golden periods of culture when the Arabs had

brought

> treasures of lost Greek manuscripts n Arabian science following the

invasion

> of Spain by the Moors. So much had been lost n destroyed by the

Vandals n

> Goths! So at this time, Jewish, Christian, n Arab scholars n

philosophers worked

> amicably together translating n eagerly gobbling up the wisdom

that had been

> lost!

>

> We forget that we owe the Arabs an ENORMOUS debt. The first

European

> university, the glorious architecture, the tradition of the

troubadors, poetry n on

> n on. This period was a brief golden age of tolerance. At that

time, there

> was tolerance which Muhammad had taught originally - alas it did

not last! The

> Crusades began, started in the North. But Toledo n Seville were

centers of

> learning. This explains why , a Jew, had an Arabic name!

>

> I had the good fortune to study astrology in NYC w/the great Marc

Edmund

> . I was 21 n the youngest by far. He often quoted ibn Gabirol,

who was also

> a Kabbalist n mystic n prob, an astrologer.He n Maimonides were

treasures

> that need to be honored n remembered.

>

> I find it comforting to think his words have survived almost a 1000

years n

> we still can receive them in our hearts.

>

> Baghdad was once a great center of learning. Just to see the

ugliness of

> bombed out cars n blood, blood, death, torture, suffering, fear

seems to me to

> be soaking the place w/bad energy for years to come!

> I think I have mentioned how appalled I was wh 13 to be taught that

hell was

> below ground n heaven above. What an insult to nature!! I decided

right then

> n there that hell/heaven were right here. I guess I am a born pan-

en-theist.

> In my life, I have experienced both hell n heaven n I bet ev one

here ar the

> fire has, too!

>

> The good news is that the alchemists tell us, n Jung, that there is

gold

> hidden in lead [saturn] n the wealth of wisom concealed in the

nigredo [shit].

> Both Pluto n Hades [Lat/Grk] mean Wealth n are the archetypal gods

ruling hell.

> Transformation. Manure is fertilizer n recycles [scorpio] but what

ab

> plastic!!

>

> aaargh.......

>

> will share a Pluto poem tomorrow. Yikes it's 6 already!

>

> love

>

> ao

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