Guest guest Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 In this introduction, we see that in contrast to our stagnant universe that doesn't grow well; that in an all-good universe with lots of growth, no one is left behind, but are all advanced to high levels, in good time. (Note: FogoHC means Force of good of High Capability. And force of good means to generate positive growth) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx When the joint venture of GROWTH and gripping, does growth and gripping on itself; there's a circular feedback created that produces tremendous quantities of growth. When forces of good are producing capability (exhibiting growth); they can either produce new forces-of-good; or new neutral-capability. Forces of good are made of capability. And for one force of good to produce a second force of good; is a force of good producing a force of good. A force of good can also be a force of good, by producing neutral capabilities. There are great advantages for forces of good to produce more forces of good, as opposed to neutral capability. For one thing, the newly created force of good can in turn produce force of good of its own; and an exponential increase in the production of the force of good will result. Whereas, with the increase of neutral capability, only a flat rate of capability increase is achieved, and no new force of good is produced. For another thing, the forces of good are protected by the fogoHC, while neutral capability is not (not absolutely). Thus forces-of-good producing forces of good, is more advantageous than forces of good producing neutral capability. However, before something can be a force of good, it usually has to have some minimum level of capability. Like, it might help if something were alive, so it could reproduce itself; or that it be intelligent, so it could rise above random action, which produces decrease(destruction) as well as increase(growth). Thus even though the forces of good may want to increase force -of-good capability right away, they have to go through an increase of neutral capabilities to reach a minimum level, before forces of good can start increasing forces of good. (And, a neutral capability cannot be gripped before it exists/-before it is produced.) When a force of good that is able to do gripping- (that is, a fogoHC), comes in contact (together) with neutral capability produced by forces of good; that neutral-capability becomes a part of the fogoHC, and is thus protected. We see a picture of the fogoHC going about gripping forces of good and gripping the neutral capability that all forces of good initially produce. With more neutral capability being produced; those forces of good who can do gripping (that is forces ogoHC), have more neutral capability to grip, and thus turn into force of good capability. As we can see, there is always more and more neutral capability (to grip) that is being produced. But where does the capability go after it has been gripped and is a marginal force of good? Well, there are 2 possibilities: A) it goes no further and serves to produce neutral capability for the fogoHC. it remains at about its original level of capability and fails to advance: being frozen at some level of advancement so that it is useful to the fogoHC, but that it advances no further. or possibility B. it could advance in its abilities to first become alive; then advance in intelligence; and finally become a fogoHC. it continues to advance and eventually becomes a fogoHC itself. With possibility A, more and more neutral capability is produced. The amount of it increases exponentially. But the fogoHC becomes no larger. There is no growth in the fogoHC because no lower capabilities are allowed to become fogoHC. For the fogoHC to produce more of itself, it can replicate itself. But this is taking lower forces of good and advancing them to be a fogoHC. This is example A not example B, so the fogoHC doesn't do this. It finds itself with an ever growing supply of neutral capability to make contact with. It might get swamped by the size of it. It needs to grow in size to match the growth of the neutral capability. It could try and make itself more powerful and become of higher capability within itself. But whether it could do this or not is uncertain; whereas the creation of itself has been proven possible by its own existence. The fogoHC must increase its own power at an exponential rate just to keep up with the neutral capability. But this is unlikely as the fogoHC would be increasingly more busy trying to handle the exponential growth of the neutral capability, that it would have less and less time to work on its own advancement. Also, it is into uncharted areas, as it has never been that powerful before. It is a driven and desperate fogoHC, that is forced to keep up a growth output and is driven by growth needs, if it can keep up at all. In this picture of a universe, it is easy to see how a fogoHC could become overextended and how the marginal force of good and neutral capability could overgrow a fogoHC, and eventually become unmanageable. It could cease contacting the neutral capability, but that would make it vulnerable to evil. Thus the force of evil would step in and stagnation would result after some point of expansion. Possibility B: Now let's observe a universe where the basic forces of good produced, do advance to finally become a fogoHC. With possibility B, there would be more and more fogoHC to keep up with the more and more neutral capability being produced. There would be no problem of the fogoHC getting swamped. Here, the contacting of the ever-growing neutral capability is provided by a fogoHC that is also growing exponentially. Also, the fogoHC isn't forced to grow in uncharted areas; only in the replication of more of itself, which by its existence, has already been proven possible to do. So it's very probable that not only does the fogoHC contact neutral capabilities and turn them into marginal force of good capability; the fogoHC also advances these marginal-good capabilities to be very intelligent, capable, alive; and finally to be forces ogoHC. (Growth plus advancement.) End introduction. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx A SHORT PREVIEW ON HUMAN HUNGERS: Often in the areas of human hungers, it is a no win situation where if we do satisfaction of the hunger, one area benefits while another area suffers; and if we abstain, then the one area suffers while another area benefits. I would argue then that in these situations the best way to go, is to do a medium or middle doing of the hunger satisfaction so that neither directive of either doing, or abstaining from, the hunger satisfaction is favored over the other. Now, this middle or medium level can be achieved in different ways. One can cycle about the medium level, by doing full 'on' of the hunger satisfaction for a time and then full 'off' for an equal time. And the cycling frequency can be adjusted so that one doesn't spend too long in either the 'on' or 'off' part of the cycle so that one is not hindered excessively by the shortages created in different areas due to the unbalanced nature of this no win situation. Another way to achieve the medium level, is to do the hunger satisfaction at a constant or non varying medium level that is mid way between the full 'on' state and the full 'off' state. These two ways of achieving the medium level each have their own advantages and disadvantages. The cycling on and off way allows one to go to higher intensity in both 'on' and 'off' areas, allowing more concentrated attention to each individual area without being hindered by the demands of the other areas. But on the down side, one must work to regulate this repeating on and off cycle, and cannot rest or take one's attention off it. Whereas with the non varying constant medium level, one can just let it go and not have to work at regulating it so much. END PREVIEW. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx REPRODUCTION Consider the concept of supply and demand; as applied to human beings. If there is a shortage of humans, then they will have a higher value and will be treated better. But if there is a surplus of humans, then their value will be low, and they will be treated poorly, according to their low value according to supply and demand. So that when women are considering how many humans to produce in terms of how large a family to have; collectively, they have quite an impact on how we're all treated by those economic forces that rule over us. Xxxxxxxxxx In response to this, someone wrote: " According to the law of supply and demand, a shortage or surplus of humans would not affect their treatment but their 'price'. In some cases, a high price might lead to worse (or better) treatment, but there is no necessary connection. " xxxxxxx And I responded: -A high price for humans, means that they are paid a high wage. A high wage means that they are not in abject poverty. Sometimes too much money leads people to be unhappy. But a little money keeps them out of the other unhappy extreme of abject poverty. Another way to look at this, is to look at Mexico. There the catholic traditions against birth control and for big families means that there are always a lot of little Mexicans running around. And the resources of the society must be divided up again and again amongst them all so that they mostly live lives of abject poverty. That's not to say one cannot be happy in abject poverty, it's just that it is a challenge to overcome. And in a world where there is destructiveness around; a medium ability environment is what is needed, not those of abject poverty, nor richness. Note that Bible prophecy predicts plagues and famines for an apocalyptic end to the world. And if people overpopulate the world under religious direction, then the plagues and famines will appear, as predicted. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx And then there is the conservative, religious rules over our sexuality. But first let us consider sexual reproduction in itself. Sexual reproduction produces offspring that are not exact copies of their parents but are different from their parents to some degree. So, sexual reproduction generates differences between each of us; it is a generator of differences. But people who are different, do not hang together. no, it is people who are alike, who hang together. And E Harmony matches to those who are alike, not to those who are different. Now, if we were all to have sex with each other in unrestricted sexual reproduction, then our genetics would be well mixed; and those differences would be spread all back among our population and we would not build on or accentuate those differences. But that's not the way sexual reproduction works in our world. Sexual reproduction is restricted to one man one woman and to form a family grouping to raise the offspring produced. People of like interests and skills tend to hang around with each other; and that is where they are likely to meet a mate, where they will spend a lifetime together with someone with common interests. This leaves the people that are different, as not reconnected together. So that the genetic differences generated by sexual reproduction are preserved and compounded over each successive generation. Being different means that they are good in different areas. So that different groups of people are developed, each being good in one particular area, while not so good in the other areas (exploring the scope of genetic differences that human genetics allow). So that as individuals they cannot function well, but only as a group can they work together to combine their good areas to make a complete and competent societal whole. Thus the rulers of a society have at their beck and call, all the humans of the society to do their bidding, because as individuals they are all unbalanced in their skills, incapable of being self sufficient as individuals, who can only survive and excel by joining the societal group each to contribute their best skill. So that what the conservative rules over our sexual reproduction do is to breed individuals who are slaves who are easily molded by the rulers of a society, who are incapable of much independence as individuals, so that we are more so a commodity to be used by those who rule over us. Human sexuality doesn't stop, but continues to generate differences in the offspring; and with the conservative rules remaining in place, this results in ever increasing specialization in an individual's best skill area, while the rest of the individual's areas lag further and further behind; so that individuals become more and more unbalanced so that eventually the individual becomes a commodity (which is their best skill), and is not so much alive anymore in any of the other areas; as generation after generation of sexual reproduction under conservative protestant rule progresses. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx In a world where the force of destruction is a problem, we shall see that being at medium ability, not at barren, neither rich ability; is the solution. Concerning the unbalanced individual; being at barren ability in all the other areas, is not good; and the other areas, although lagging behind, need to be advanced too, eventually; otherwise it doesn't work out. However, outside the considerations of dealing with destruction; what is the best configuration to have, concerning the societal entity (which is made up of the best skills of each individual); and also concerning the individual entity? The societal entity, and the individual entity, are both areas (of value) that can be grown into and improved. To leave a vacuum in any one of these areas, represents an improvement that can be made and grown into. To act so that either of these areas is to be sacrificed, is destructive, and is against the directives of growth/goodness and love, which God purportedly is. The force of good-and -growth needs/is able, to scale and cross barriers to find raw materials separated by barriers, so it can continue to grow. This represents many individuals(representing the individual position) trying out all the many different possibilities until one is found that works; not the elimination of options(elimination of the individual positions) and choosing just one (societal) way; especially before one has found the answer to the next challenge to growth. Also there is the consideration of coordination. As unbalance progresses in the individual, the individual looses sight of where its best skill fits into the other societal areas, as its own 'other areas' are so feeble. Eventually the societal entity becomes the individual, as the individual entity no longer exists. What was the individual entity, is now like cells of the body -incapable of any life or action outside the body -there is no longer any intelligent life at this level. The result of all this, is the causation of a rich area (the societal entity); and a barren area (the individual entity); from what used to be a medium ability situation. What has occurred, is a polarization to absolutes, by using sexual reproduction and conservative rules over sexual reproduction; over the generations. Note that neither of these absolutes(barrenness nor richness) is capable of dealing with the problem and force of destruction; whereas the medium ability environment is. And since we live in a world still with the problem of destruction, we will need to bring back these medium ability environments. And this means we at some point need to interrupt this conservative breeding program that has been cornering the effects of human sexuality; and violate it. Otherwise we will be in hell. (// Note that to actually obey the command to die to yourself for Christ's sake; that when you take into and part of yourself (so that it becomes part of yourself), this action to die to yourself; that you must also die to this dying to yourself; so that an incomplete dying to yourself actually results; which provides the medium environment needed, not these absolute polarizations.//) The religious exhortations to be like a seed and die to yourself so you can be part of the great big religion in the sky; so that you can be part of the body: an arm, a leg, an eye or an ear or a hand maybe; so that you can die to yourself and be one(in the (societal)body): are all leading you down the wrong path; it seems to me. Because the appeal of Jesus Christ, and need that He fulfills, as being part of humanity; as being in between the absolutes of highness and lowness, representing humanity and the in between: is not found here. And the creation of a barren area in what used to be the individual entity, is against the directives of growth and love. Now, in response to a totally evil environment, this would be a good response. Like a case can be made that the world of the Roman Empire, needed to be brought to an end. But life is no longer so much so. Yet the controls are set on autopilot in this direction, and need to be changed. A little bit of this unbalance is OK, because it causes the individual entity to also share with the societal entity, so that both entities can exist and grow. But too much unbalance forces the individual entity to death so that only the societal entity remains. But then I am reminded of the idea that if high good ways exist, we as individuals should seek to give up our individual ways, because individual ways are fraught with more destruction and are not as good as the higher ways (of a societal entity). But wait a minute: this is not that situation. The directive to bring the individual entity to nothing as a means of solving the imperfections of the individual entity/position; is a different solution than the solution of having a robust individual entity lay aside its ways and let the societal ways fill its needs (with the medium level Jesus Christ entity as facilitator); because in this solution, both the societal entity and the individual entity EXIST and are well grown into. (Not all of the individual's actions are defective; some are wholly good and evil free.) Now then, not all evils are based on need. The ones that are, are eliminated by both these solutions, dealing with the neediness of the individual position. But other evils that pop up, well, if there is no individual position, then they must be dealt with by the only remaining position -the high and rich societal position. And as we shall see, when an evil is put into a rich environment, a firestorm results and the whole thing is burnt down. Better to let evils be worked out in the individual position, so that the societal position, (which is made of the best parts of the individuals collectively and is very rich) can know how to avoid these evils, having learned from its individuals. Once again, I reiterate: we are screwing ourselves if we continue down this path to death of the individual entity through conservative running of our sexual reproduction! Get off your ass and fuck different people (while trying to avoid a venereal disease, which is the weakness of this directive). And have some, but not too many kids from this. Otherwise, if you insist on being good and morally, sexually conservative; you along with the rest of your kind will be the cause of the end of the world scenarios that religious fundamentalists predict. Because when hatreds are worked out on the individual levels, it is with guns and knives and clubs. But when there is no more individual level, and there are still hatreds to be worked out; the societal entities work these out with atom bombs. And who wants to be responsible for blowing up the whole world? Who is the biggest terrorist now? Why it is the conservative fundamentalists. So, in the war on terror, we ask you to loosen your morals a little. Or if you insist on one man one women, then find a mate who is out of your class and social group, who is different from you, to marry and have kids with. (Stop catering to 'the MAN'(so much /so absolutely).) Ending up with a burnt out cinder for a world after we have committed armagedon against each other, is really not an acceptable direction to seek to produce. I mean, there is certainly no harm in trying to do better than this. Xxxxxxxxx Note that we have been handed a legacy from many generations of mammalian reproduction; which is that human infants are very helpless. This is a result of that good societies are superior to cruel societies. You see, if a society is cruel, it won't care for its infants well and they will die due to their helplessness and put an end to that cruel society. But good and kind societies will thrive because the helpless infant will thrive. This is a legacy we have from many generations of cave men before there was organized religion. But now with our women, (and men) insisting on people not cheating; a family structure is enforced. With a family structure where the parents are made responsible for raising their offspring; the helpless infant is raised till they are of age and are no longer helpless; where they can be fodder for their society that can be as evil and cruel as it wants, because the infant is no longer an infant and is no longer helpless. In this society, if there is something that is supporting evil and allowing evil; we usually take action and stamp it out. What we can do then is to stamp out this enforcement against cheating because it is what prevents us from using our legacy of our helpless infants to make our societies good. And we are forced to reprove over and over again that good societies are superior to all the evil/cruel societies that we now allow, that before would have been eliminated. xxxxxxxxxxx In this insert, let us consider the racial purity philosophy of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan and others. The idea is that one race is superior and that the other inferior races need to be exterminated. To exterminate the differences brought to the global societal entity by other 'inferior' races, does curtail and handicap the societal entity; thus providing some favor to the individual entity (of the surviving race). This stops the perpetual advancement of the societal entity at the expense of the individual entity under conservative sexuality. And when genetics under conservative sexuality causes some individuals in the master race to be too different from the standard of the master race, these individuals too can be exterminated or sterilized. Thus the ultra specialization brought by continued conservative sexuality is stopped, as individuals who are too specialized are exterminated. So this seems to work, theoretically. But getting to this point is the problem. Not all races are willing to lay down and be exterminated without a fight like the Jews in ww2. And now the Jews of today in Israel are certainly not going down without a fight. So that the end of the world will be achieved by trying to exterminate the other races in the world war this would cause. Much better to loose the conservative sexuality to achieve the same result, without all the destruction and end to the world. But perhaps having the different races intensely prejudice of each other will keep them from joining together into a greater societal entity, thus limiting the societal entity, which is what is needed in systems of continued conservative sexuality. Perhaps this may explain why prejudice exists today, and what function it serves. However, this is not the best system that can be. As a better system is one that puts together the differences of the races (not all the time), but periodically; and this would replace systems of eternal prejudice; and it would not be a system of eternal conservative sexuality. End insert. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Now, with the Amish, individual expression is stamped out, and everything is plain. So that when a woman is looking for a mate, she has a harder time finding someone just like her, due to them all looking pretty much the plain same. Thus the Amish may not have so much of an accentuation of differences as their generations pass. And with the Mexicans, the man has a few kids with one woman and then moves onto the next woman to do the same, and the next and the next etc. Thus there is good mixing of the genetic material, and differences are put together again. The same is true of the African American male/ also the gang banger, who does a bit of philandering and doesn't spend much time in the home; thus providing the needed genetic mixing. And with the Arabs, (and the Mormons) the harem provides a genetic mixing and melting pot. And with the Americans, a melting pot where different types intermarry, brings genetic differences back together. But with the conservative Protestants, no such getting the genetic differences back together occurs. They may not overpopulate the world like the Catholics, but they instead create ever more unbalanced offspring eventually no longer capable of any individual existence but only of a societal existence, resulting in societal conflicts that will annihilate the world (as predicted). This is unfortunate for them (and everybody else). Now, if you go with the free love of the communes, the hippies, and the 60's, and Disco 70's, you can have individual expression as well as good genetic mixing. (But what about inbreeders? Since they are of the same family, there is much similar genetic material. Here again, it is people who are the same getting together, but these people are so much the same genetically, that weaknesses in genetics are not complimented by a different partners genes, and these people often have serious physical problems due to genetic deficits. However, the differences generated by sexual reproduction are put back together. So that if a well balanced well rounded, self sufficient group of individuals does this, they preserve themselves. But if an unbalanced group does this, that is where the trouble is.) Of all these things I have spoken against religion, you might think I am against Christ. Well, I am not against a Christ who values both advancing the individual entity as well as the societal or body-of-Christ entity. But I am against a Christ who sacrifices the individual entity completely and absolutely to the societal entity; who does not advance the individual entity along with the societal/christ body entity. -Because that is extremely destructive/wasteful as it brings about the end of human life on earth. And also hinders the force of good from finding solutions to barriers to new growth, which it needs to do to be able to live in a rich environment without the force of evil. And I will replace this 'bad' Christ, with the 'good' Christ, who is more fit at being savior of the world, unlike the 'bad' Christ, who is unfit to be our savior, but serves only to be our destructor. Obviously there is only 1 Jesus Christ, and reportedly He is still alive, having survived the crucifixion. But He is now at the right hand of God, so that we may all have His Holy Spirit; so that He is not easily accessible to settle which interpretation of " die to yourself for Christ's sake " did He mean. -Did He mean to completely and absolutely sacrifice the individual entity for the societal body of Christ? or did He mean to partially sacrifice the individual entity so that both the individual and the societal entities would prosper? Depending on His answer, is my answer of either support, or a true need to find a better savior; not only to save us but also Him. xxx Obviously there is only one Jesus Christ, but there may be two answers. Some may claim the Holy Spirit has led them to one interpretation, while others, to the other interpretation. I claim the Holy Spirit, through logic, has led me to the interpretation that causes both the advancement of the societal body of Christ entity, as well as also the advancement of each individual entity; (and by doing so, also claim to be a Christian); albeit a non traditional one: mainly because of Christ's stand that we love and be kind to one another. If you can't stomach that, then I think we need to be separate from one another. xxxxxxxx Maybe I just don't get it. I'm still not going to restrict my sexual lifestyle according to the conservative Christian way, which as I have explained is part of the fallacy of sacrificing the individual entity absolutely and entirely for the societal entity. It won't be me who throws Christ out, but perhaps Christ will throw me out if it turns out that He is for the interpretation of absolutely sacrificing the individual entity for the societal, body of Christ entity. In that case, there still exists inside me, a christ like part which functions to intercede between my absolute, high good parts and my human parts; which will continue to act, and will be thrilled to join with a Christ like savior who is of similar make up, who actually can function as a savior. But I have faith, that Christ will come through for me, and for us all. xxxxx There is a concern about anybody who is against Christ, is an anti Christ, and who could be the big anti Christ who will bring about the end of the world as predicted in the Bible. So that we must all be careful to be just like Christ in our beliefs and actions to avoid this. Kind of like 'simon says', except it is 'Jesus says'. So that our thoughts and beliefs are under societal control and anything outside of what Jesus says, is to be eliminated. Thinking for ourselves is more difficult as anything that is outside of what Jesus says, must be disposed of. This may work out if Jesus always has the correct answer as to how to think and how to be; but even so, and irregardless of that; we always have the enactment of having to compare our thoughts and actions to that of the current view of Jesus, and eliminating that which is not in line with that. The action to eliminate involves the use of destruction, (self destruction). That may work well when what we destroy in ourselves, is also destructive; but when we make a mistake and are destructive to that which is not destructive, then we have become the perpetrators of destruction. When we use destruction as a tool, it requires us to know all and get it right all the time. And that is a difficult tightrope act that few can follow. But that is not what this anti Christ idea is all about in reality, although it is what it has become-that is Christianity patrolling and policing your thoughts and dictating how you are to think, lest you be labeled and anti-Christ, and be disposed of. Just what does it mean to be against Christ, which is to be anti-Christ? When Christ was alive, they condemned him and persecuted him and his followers. That is what it means to be an anti-Christ: that is to condemn and do harm (to Christ and his followers). If I discuss the pros and cons, mainly cons of some of the sexual regulations; that doesn't mean I have condemned Christ. Now there are those who condemn and do harm to Christ and his followers, and there are also religious people who condemn and do harm to those who they may say are anti-Christ or who they may say are heathen or blasphemers (recall the inquisition). And I guess we could call these people anti anti-Christs. What I would like to point out is where does Christ fit into this picture? Christ never condemned anyone. That is a line that can be drawn. All these people, the anti -Christs, and the anti anti-Christs all condemned someone. But there is another position outside of both of these; and that is to not condemn and not to be destructive to another, which by the way is the side of the line Christ is on. Any of these (either the anti-Christs or the anti anti-Christs) could be the big anti-Christ. But by choosing to not condemn or be destructive to others, including any 'bad Christ', I put myself outside this anti-Christ, and anti anti-Christ destructiveness. Xxxxxxxxxxxxx One can find Biblical condemnations of how God condemns homosexuals, and fornicators and adulterers, and how any lustful feelings are guilty of adultery. So I could say it seems God condemns all forms of human sexuality. And if we look at it from this angle, there may be some truth in it. You see, in order for a part of us to become a high part and to join God, it would have to outgrow and escape the imperfect human sex drive. So that perhaps what is being said here is that God condemns these forms of sexuality from Himself: -that anyone who would claim to be God, or a high part in God would be required to have gotten beyond the imperfect human sex drive. And this is true, that imperfect human activities are to be kept separate from perfect high parts. But if a person is willing to come out and admit that they are not God; that they are less than God, that they are not perfect, and that they are instead human; then I think it might be possible that these condemnations do not apply to them, as they were only meant for those who would be God, or part of the high God. Yes, it is not totally inaccurate to say that a God who condemns forms of sexuality in just the Godly area, is a God who has condemned these forms of sexuality (without mentioning it is just over the Godly area, and does not include the human area). Because if one says that God condemns forms of sexuality in the human area, then it draws God into being part of the imperfect human area by this need to police the human area; and that just doesn't happen. And it is instead the Jesus entity who acts to keep the human stuff away from the high parts, and also casts off all bad parts off of the human stuff in a 3 dimensional sorting. For the Jesus entity to condemn human sexuality in humans as all bad, is just inaccurate because human sexuality from the human sex drive, is one of those human things that is neither all destructive nor all good. -That even we weak and imperfect humans can see that the sexuality that comes from within us imperfect humans, is neither all destructive nor all good. And that to label it as such, is just inaccurate, and is part of the 2 dimensional sorting that is flawed. So that when some religious humans claim these things about God condemning human sexuality in humans; even we weak and imperfect humans know this is inaccurate, and if we believe it were true then we thereby believe that God is also inaccurate and flawed, giving us a queezy feeling, and an aversion to these religious people. So that my interpretation of these condemnations of sexuality in the Bible, is that it is for marking off a separation between that which is high Godly area, and that which is human area; and that this part of the human area is to stay away from the high Godly area; and that is all it is for. And that within the human area, these sexual things are in their place and are as all human things are -neither all bad nor all good; and are certainly not absolutely condemned. -that this Biblical condemnation does not apply here and was not meant to apply here. And to those who would insist that it does apply to us as humans; just shows me how 2 dimensional they are and how I do not go along with that, because if I did, that would just degrade and defile God, the persona and attributes of the most high God. Because God does not act 2 dimensionally as these do. Xxxxxxx At first we start with a kind and gentle man, Jesus Christ, who reportedly healed many of sickness, and overcame death. How then does that translate into this end where we end up with a controlling influence over us all whereby if we don't do and think the way Jesus says, then we are condemned? Now this forces Jesus to get it right every time. -(And apparently, the right response is to remove oneself and become separate from the evils in worship and religion; and to contact one's followers through one's spirit; outside the evils of worship and religion: and that is where love, God's love is.) -(This is an example of how God does not condemn these imperfect human things in the human area and allows them to exist in the human area, while still keeping them out and away from the Godly area.) Because of this threat of condemnation over our head all the time, a destructive factor is placed upon us to eliminate all that is outside of what Jesus says. Because destructiveness is used against that which is bad (ie, that which is outside of Jesus), this forces Jesus to get it right all the time, otherwise destruction is done to us. And when there comes up issues about what Jesus wants for our sexuality where on one hand some say Jesus condemns human sexuality, but others say, no, Jesus just keeps human sexuality away from entering into the kingdom of heaven. Well, the idea is that when the Bible says the adulterers, fornicators, homosexuals, idolaters, etc won't enter the kingdom of heaven; some people react to that to think that these people will be condemned because everybody wants to get into heaven, and if you don't make it to heaven then you are then going to hell where you will be tortured and tormented for eternity -a fate worse than death. But on the other hand; this same denial of fornicators, adulterers, etc, from entering heaven, can just be a separation of that which is godly, from that which is imperfectly human (and of course, fornication, adultery, etc, represents the imperfect human sex drive, which is part of human things). Some people apply a 2 dimensional sorting to this, but with a 3 dimensional sorting of this, things work out very differently. The fact that imperfect human things are sorted away from perfect heaven and God, does not condemn them, but helps them. So that in one way of thinking, one may think Jesus wants us to eliminate these imperfect human activities of the human sex drive; while in another way of thinking, one may think it is best to allow a medium amount of these imperfect human sexual things, as the best way for these things to escape their imperfect humanity and pass to perfect heaven and God; and think that this is the way Jesus wants it. So that if we don't know exactly what Jesus wants here, then we are always in risk of being condemned according to this condemning paradigm that has grown up around Jesus for not aligning yourself completely with Jesus. What I say is a problem, is this condemning paradigm about aligning yourself completely with Jesus, itself. The problem is due to the destructiveness it holds near to us all. It is destructiveness itself that is the enemy and the problem; and this condemning paradigm contains a heavy use of destructiveness, and is therefore part of the problem. Remember, Jesus was a kind and gentle man, who had nothing to do with terrorizing people with destructiveness if they didn't do what he wanted. Now, on the contrary, roman emperors WERE people who would cause excessive destructivenesses to be done to those who didn't do exactly what they said. It appears that a roman influence has overtaken the worship of this kind, gentle and loving man, Jesus Christ, has taken place. And if I were a follower of Jesus Christ, (and I'm not saying I'm not), I would be kind of upset, and would act to remove (as non destructively as possible) this destructive thing that surrounds my(and perhaps your) fellowship/oneness with this kind and gentle, loving man/God. xx When the Bible says fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, etc won't enter the kingdom of heaven; that is one action of sorting (into two tiers or dimensions). The imperfect human sex drive is kept separate from the perfect Godly material, presumably by the perfect human, Jesus. In a two dimensional sorting, this leaves the imperfect human material (that has both goodness and destruction intertwined), to be together with/tormented by the all-destructive material. But if we go a step further and do a 3 dimensional sorting, Jesus can do another sorting action to sort the all destructive material away from the imperfect human material(which is partly good and partly destructive), into a third pile or tier. In this 3 dimensional sorting, the human material isn't tormented, and I say, generates material that escapes the human area, finds perfection, and joins God; a small percentage of that material coming back down and joining Jesus. Xx Some of us discover that we are humans and not Gods and that we have imperfect sexual things from our imperfect sex drive in us that we were born with. We then think and fear that we won't make it into heaven (because of them); so try to hide and eliminate this very human part of ourselves; and this reflects the two dimensional sorting mentality where that which doesn't make it into heaven is tormented and eternally burned in hell. But with a 3 dimensional sorting mentality; if one happens to be an imperfect human, one needn't fear what and who they are, but can allow the 3 dimensional sorting actions to act positively and beneficially upon them; and not suffer blame and torment for who they are; and not to be scapegoated as the cause of the entire human condition as a response to that condition(their only crime being born into it as an imperfect human); -scapegoating, which does nothing to fix or improve that condition; as opposed to fixing and improving that condition (which is what 3 dimensional sorting does)! Shame on you two dimensional religious people. Xxx And then it is these same two dimensional people who think you are a lower life form than they are because you appear not to have left your imperfect human things, while they are therefore above you; themselves being more Godly. And they then try to treat you lower on an economic scale by suggesting that you have had your fun and now its their turn for you to serve them and be their servant so that they can have their fun, (as we are all allocated equal shares of fun), in an economic system. They further emphasize that they are a superior being over you by pointing out how since you haven't left your human things, that you are devoid of godly things and are thus a burden and a freeloader on the rest of godly society, and how much you owe and are indebted to them. Well, speaking of voids; we humans use those human things to partially fill those voids; and when they try to point out that we have voids in the godly area, because we have been sorted out of the godly area due to our mild use of human things; we just realize the inaccuracy of that thinking by realizing that not only can we enjoy life on the human plane, because our Jesus representation has cast off any all-evils that would attack us in our mild use of human things; that we also generate a robust amount of material into the godly plane from the material that naturally escapes to there from our mild doing of human things; which also delivers its small percentage to our Jesus representation which then keeps our human plane safe from attacks from all-evils. So that it is actually these poor sorry saps who are into holier than thou 2 dimensional sorting, that find themselves wanting, who are now NOT able to turn that lack of satisfaction into an advantage by trying to convince us it is their turn over us because they have refrained from enjoying any human things. We realize now that what they need to do, is just help themselves and indulge in a mild doing of human things also, and quit trying to achieve this holier than thou status through as humans, eliminating of all doing of human things from the human area. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I have been told there is a soul mate, one spouse who is just for me. -Now, when people are being generated who are ever more different and ever more unbalanced; it is true that there are fewer and fewer people who are similar to me, so that it can be said that there is just one person who is best compatible with me, having the same like interests as me. But for me to marry this person and enjoy our lives together, and have (many) children with, just perpetuates this tendency towards unbalance and elimination of the individual entity for the sake of the societal entity. Seeing that this isn't what we need at this point; I thus avoid doing this. Xx In the relationship with my spouse, I cater only to her, and vice versa; and we seem to indicate by this that we are the only people who matter. But reality check: we are but two of many people, all of more or less equal value. And the denial of the worth of all these other people is a false reality, one that is not true. One that is also unbalanced. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Let me rehash this stuff a little bit. When people get married and have kids, they have to spend a lifetime or a long time together. It helps if they have common interests (ie, they are pretty much the same) so that they can enjoy their time together. This puts quite a persuasive incentive to find someone who is similar. So that when similar or the same people hook up, this leaves dissimilar people Not hooked up. So that differences fester and grow so that eventually in a population, different groups of people are generated, each being good in different areas, to the extent the genetics allow. From this, a societal entity forms whereby a person who is good in one area but deficient in other areas, is not weeded out, but can survive by joining the societal entity. People can specialize and develop their good area extensively while letting their other areas slide; and together with everyone else, who also specialize in each respective area, can make a competent societal whole. But resulting from this is that no one person is competent to satisfy their mate; that there are 2 sources of need satisfying; that compete. If someone isn't the best at their good area, then where they plug into the societal entity is at less pay and less of a good lifestyle. So that they may seek a mate based on complimenting skills that are not the same so that they may improve satisfaction of their needs from the societal angle, but at the same time, give up compatibility and enjoy their time together less. ie, when one marries for money. This allows for some putting back together of the different specialized areas, (done by those less competent in their societal good areas). and also, when people get together for a short while and then divorce, who are not necessarily compatible but just attracted, this also allows for more mixing and putting back together of the different areas. So that the absolute directive to take away from the individual area and give to the societal area, certainly is slowed; and perhaps would be enough to prevent the absolute/complete raiding of the individual entity for the benefit of the societal entity. but there is certainly room for the relaxing of moral directives and for the allowing for divorce. Xxxxxxxx Let me go over this again in a bit more depth of analysis: One is required to spend their whole life with their mate in sexual exclusivity if one follows through with the conservative way. When people are young, sexual attraction occurs and boys and girls pair up. Most of the time they are not compatible; that is they don't share the same interests and are not the same. These then break up and soon after, move on to another partner. Eventually partners find themselves with people of similar interests, who are pretty much the same (ie compatible); and these people then take the plunge and get married. (In this insert, some say that opposites attract. But perhaps what is going on instead, is that there is a sexual attraction between most men and women, and that when they pair up, most of the time they are different, or 'opposite', while only occasionally do pairs contain similar people. Xxxxxxxxxx Because the requirements of sexual morality require us to at least make an attempt to live with a partner for a long time in sexual exclusivity; this favors people who are alike to come together, so that they may enjoy their long time together pursuing common interests; thus leaving people not alike, ie, different, as being left apart and not connected sexually/genetically. As a society specializes and its individuals become unbalanced -that is they are good in one area, -maximized in tune with one area; but deficient in all the other areas: this provides another need/need satisfaction source (in addition to the reproductive drive need and need satisfaction source). That is, an individual needs to participate in their society, giving of their good area so that they may receive their small shares of the Many(more than 2) other good areas supplied by Many other unbalanced individuals (who are also maximized in their own respective and different good areas); and thereby satisfy each others needs (other than sexual) as a societally competent whole. As a society continues to specialize, the number of different areas (manned by individuals who are good in each particular area) grows well beyond 2. So that if a person was thinking of giving up similarity in a mate in order to join a mate with complimentary skills; this would not work out well because 2 skill areas does not a society make. And the society way would do a much better job at supplying needs through combining the skills of a multitude of skill areas (supplied by individuals) much greater than 2. No, better a person find someone of like skills for a mate, and they can both work on improving their performance in their one good skill area and thus get better recognition and pay from their job (joining with the societal entity and through their societal connection). And at the same time they can enjoy each other's like interests. But what if a person is at the top of the heap in their good skill area, and already has good pay? Well, with those needs satisfied, the only need left is the reproductive drive. Here, finding someone of like mind/ability/interests allows this couple to enjoy their greater command of resources (from society) together. So, we see an uninterrupted directive to ever increase specialization and sacrifice the individual entity to benefit the societal entity, so far. However, in some ideas about good vs evil; life vs destruction, we will see that meanness and cruelty doesn't get along with itself. They are the same, yes, but two mean people, being mean to each other, do not get along and are not compatible. Perhaps if they can direct their meanness to others, they can get along, but this can be tentative at best, as mean, competitive people often go after each other to establish who is dominant. So that pairing of like people who are mean/competitive, does not provide satisfaction in the traditional morality concerning satisfaction of the sex drive. These dominant ones find submissive ones to dominate, and they are not the same, do not share the same mind, and once the sexual need is satisfied, they have a lot of time on their hands with little in common to do. And there is no harmony here concerning the traditional way. The societal way of satisfying other needs, is the only way that does work for these people. They are often at the top of their heap and make good money. It is in the marital area where things are problematic. Since the traditional way in the sexual area doesn't work for these people, they are tempted to model this area after the way that does work for them -the societal way. They are thus tempted to add the sexual area and treat it the same way other needs are handled by the societal area. -That is to have the input of many different people each contributing their best skill, not just 2 people. This means multiple partners, maybe a girl in every port; divorce, bigamy, going from one mate to another in rapid succession, etc. It is these kinds of behaviors that mix the genes, and prevent absolute sacrifice of the individual entity to the societal entity, thus saving our ass! It is odd how a religion based on love and kindness depends on meanness and mean and competitive people to save its ass/ our ass. xxxxxxxx (In this insert, I consider that jealousy is from a fear of loosing one's significant other absolutely due to the absolute nature of the traditional morality. Because the traditional morality is unlike the societal way of need satisfying, in that it totally and absolutely shuts out others from sharing in one's mate's sexuality; one fears any advances on one's mate by others may cause one's mate to switch partners, and thus exchange places so that one is now absolutely shut out from one's former mate. It is the absolute shutting out action that brings this about. If sexuality were not so absolute, the tensions would be eased, and sharing could occur without jealousy, overpowering jealousy. When we deliver goods and services in our job, we don't service just one person, but deliver/share our goods/services to many people. If sexuality were not so absolute, multiple partners, and shared relationships would occur; so that the loss of one lover would not be as hard to take as in the absolute world where one has only one lover, whose loss results in the loss of all the love that one has. Plus, does anyone person really have the right to all of another person's attentions? Note that the sexual attraction one person feels for another, causes them to value the object of their feeling above all other people; when in actuality, people are of equal value; and we do treat them equally when we are not under a sexual attraction towards one of them. But when we are under a sexual attraction to one of them, this focuses our attention and valuation all to that one person. Now if we have sexual feelings for more than one person, one might think this is expressing more sexuality. But the most sexuality one can express is being attracted to just one person, because the nature of sexual feeling, is to remove importance from everyone else, and concentrate it to this one person. If one removes importance from everyone else, and concentrates it to a group of people, that isn't as much of a concentration. So the person who has multiple partners, although they may think they are being more sexual, in actuality, they are being less sexual, due to the concentrating nature of sexuality itself. When a man and woman share their affection with each other, they may think that they enjoy that. What do you think? Don't you think that men and women sharing affection is an enjoyable thing? But then they take a good thing that they enjoy and limit it and put it under a box and prevent it from expanding and keep it to themselves. Now if one were to take the good news of the gospel and hide it under a basket and try to limit it, then religion would be up in arms about that. But more to the point, when women(men) refuse to service all mankind's(womankind's) sex drives except one partner, then there are a lot of unsatisfied customers out there. Women(men) may be attractive to men(women) and some very much so, but it is all just a tease unless one does submit to the conservative breeding program that could very well result in the apocalyptic end of the world. I would ask the people attracted here to realize that the conservative way is a mostly all destructive entity that does prey upon the imperfect human area of sexual expression; and that the sogp/jesus representation (explained later) can and should (as non destructively as possible), cast this mostly all evil out of/ off of, the human sexual area; so that our sexual area tends towards medium ability, out of barrenness and low ability. End insert.) Concerning the dual need satisfaction system: sometimes it all gets sucked into one mess. Sometimes there is separation between church and business, but sometimes a person is called out on not being morally up to standards, so that the same absolute polarizations of all or nothing that occur in the moral area, are also applied to this person's other areas of need satisfaction, so that they are ostracized completely in all need satisfaction systems, so that their business connection is polarized to barrenness for them and richness to those who extract from them. And when people's whole lives are dragged down into these religious polarizations, things can get out of hand with burning down the rich areas in firestorms. And this is just a waste of resources, leaving all in barrenness. Better to follow the separation of church and state with also having separation of church and business (concerning how a person satisfies their reproductive needs vs how they satisfy their other needs). As the satisfaction of the sexual need is such a limited thing, compared to the good one can do by helping needy people and fill their needs in other things other than sexual. Unless one is prevented from doing so due to some religious or societal shunning that has labeled them as heathen or infidels and that one is not allowed to help them/they are not allowed to help others. Thus one's force of good is not only prevented from helping in the sexual area (which is limited at best) but also every other area, in a now all encompassing societoreligious polarization. Xxxx Note that although the people of Jesus' day condemned the adulterous woman; note that Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman. Now, when people of today work in their jobs (so they can get paid so they can buy things to satisfy their other needs (other than sexual)), they are not absolute in their action. They do not service just one customer and deny all the other customers their service. Instead, they give each customer a little bit of their time and do service many customers. But in the satisfaction of the sexual area, this is NOT how things are done. Instead, each person satisfies only one customer, and leaves the rest unsatisfied. These two different ways of need satisfaction are incompatible. For example, if each worker were to pick one customer and service only them, then most of the work would not get done, and this system would collapse and be unworkable. But way back in the past, in little house on the prairie days, when individuals were more self sufficient, this actually would work out. Each person would take care of themselves and their spouse and their family grouping, and leave the rest of the world to fend for itself, just like they fended for themselves. And when the nearest neighbor was miles away, one man one woman was how the sexual area was done also. So that there was no dual or conflicting ways of need satisfaction. It was all the absolute way, the all or nothing way, and each person did not service many other people, but only their own family grouping. But not only is this way less efficient and can be replaced by a way of societal entity and individual entity balanced with each other; that as I have explained; many generations of one man one woman does generate ever more unbalanced, and thus less self sufficient individuals. Yes, to start, a group of self sufficient individuals or family units could choose to isolate themselves from each other; and this would favor one man one woman in the sexual area. But one man one woman generates ever more unbalanced individuals. So that out of necessity (due to the loss of self sufficiency), a societal entity formed and lessened the individual entity. And from that group of self sufficient individuals who chose to live in quasi isolation from each other, and who did not allow the sexual area to mix it up; they are now forced to be a part of a societal entity because they are no longer self sufficient, but are now unbalanced. In this societal entity there is no longer isolation, but many people working together and intermixing. From those interactions, more sexual intermixing should follow, which thus halts the ever advancing trend towards unbalanced individuals. However, sometimes a society clings to the one man one woman theme due to religious directives. So that today, the only thing left of the self sufficient/absolute way of need satisfaction, is the sexual area; whereas all the other need satisfactions are done with the societal entity and no longer with the self sufficient individual entity. But if the societal way were applied to the sexual area, then people would service many others instead of just one other, and would be called 'whores' and 'creepers' and 'rappers'. Now when there is a balance between the individual entity and the societal entity; that is the best and most powerful system. But as the one man one woman, absolute self sufficient way persists in the satisfaction of the sexual area; we continue generating ever more unbalance, and overshoot balance and end up with all societal entity and no individual entity; and that is a lesser state. And when young women cling to this last expression of the self sufficient individual/ absolute way in the sexual area, they thus thereby eliminate completely any individuality or individual expression leaving only societal expression. Eve, put down the apple(of religious rules). Note how imperfect the area of human mating/dating is. And that absolute directives have no place in such an imperfect human area. When the spouse strays, note that imperfection. But also note the imperfection of the other spouse who stays true. Yes, following an imperfect rule over the mating area, even if one does so perfectly, does not make one perfect, but just emulates the imperfection within the rule itself. And when a rule causes a society to overshoot the balance between individuality and the societal entity, to eliminate the individual entity; and also, causes those following it to become sources for evil; that is an imperfect rule. Xxxxxx In today's society, everyone is unbalanced and not self sufficient. So that when a man and woman love each other, they generate an incomplete or unbalanced love. Now, if one were to generate a complete love for a complete spouse, that person would not exist because self sufficient spouses/individuals do not exist. But if one generated this complete love anyway, and then distributed the part that matched their unbalanced spouse, then that would work out well to bring multiple unbalanced loves together into one complete love. And one may go even further back and generate a complete entity containing both male and female essences, which then splits off the needed parts for one's unbalanced love, leaving the remnant for balance. And if one is going to join multiple loves, one needs to adjust the complete entity one generates to contain much more of their core or common self that will then become multiple copies each copy distributed to be part of each unbalanced love. As people become more unbalanced, they need to get together and each contribute their best skills to form a competent and balanced societal whole. We can think of this like each person represents a part of the societal body; like one person is an arm and another is a hand and yet another is a foot, etc. Now in the dating game, when a hand gets together with a foot, they don't have much in common and are thus incompatible for a long term relationship. But when a hand gets together with a hand, they do share common interests and skills, and they are compatible. However, all the compatible pairs are of unbalanced individuals; and the loves that they generate for each other are all unbalanced. And since they are acting as a couple, they don't include others in to provide a complete, balanced (societal) whole, (since this is lovemaking/romance between the couple, and the rest of society is not allowed into this area). So that we end up with hand love and foot love and arm love etc, which are all unbalanced and incomplete loves, each generating growths in excess of what they need, and experiencing shortages of raw materials that they themselves cannot supply; -the result of unbalanced growths.(in this area of romance/love between the couple). xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxx GOOD VS EVIL: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx Let us Consider that goodness, growth, and being kind to one another, is a superior force over the force of destruction, death, decay, and being mean to each other. (To do this, we consider all possibilities) -Considering what'd happen if in a universe with only the force of goodness-and -growth: -If in a universe where only the force of death/destruction existed: -Or if we were in a universe with both forces. Here on earth we're in the situation where both forces exist. But that doesn't mean this is the only way, -that other situations aren't possible. Let's consider a universe of only the force of destruction and death. As death /destruction progress, they take whatever is alive, and kill it, so that where life once was, now exists (is produced) nothing and nothingness. Ashes to ashes, and dust to dust. Pretty soon, life becomes in scarce supply, while a whole lot of empty space and inanimate material is left behind. After awhile, all the life is killed, and then what? With no life left to kill, the force of destruction comes to a stop (no more destroying can be done), because from nothing, this force can go no further from there. Here is a definite bottom to the universe. The force of destructiveness comes to a stop and cannot continue. Now consider the force of good-and -growth as being the only force around. As this force acts, it takes nothingness/lifeless matter (dust), and creates life in its place. Soon everything starts to come alive. Pretty soon we begin to run out of improvements to make. Emptiness and undeveloped raw material (dust) starts to come into short supply. If everything is alive, then no more growth/goodness can be done, and thus the force of good is stopped, right? Well, there's not so much an absolute ceiling, as there is an absolute bottom. You see, life forms can advance/be advanced and become ever more capable and alive; and this thus continues the force of good. And, a universe that is alive (full of life), is very capable -able to do lots of things, (unlike a barren universe consisting of nothingness). And with that life/capability, it can bridge barriers and reach raw material (dust) that had previously been separated from it by a barrier. Hence, the force of goodness and growth can survive by itself much better than the force of destruction/death can. This is an advantage: -When the force of destruction can be escaped from; (the good separated from the destructive); that which is destructive, when alone, burns itself out, finds itself boxed in by barriers, and ceases to exist; Whereas the good alone, survives, bridges barriers, and continues to grow. Of course when both forces are around, the force of good generates life for the force of destruction to feed on and destroy as it survives. (and the force of death/decay generates voids, which the force of good uses as its starting material.) This is the way things are here on earth. And both the forces of; good, and destruction, have an easy time finding material to work with (compared to if they were alone). /(insert) when the force of good is advanced to be free of destruction, it is under more pressure to cross barriers and find new raw material for growth. Thus it needs the individual entity even more so, and cannot totally sacrifice the individual entity for the societal entity here in the end, in perfection anyway.(as the individual entities are needed to try out all the possibilities to find the solution to the next challenge to growth)(end insert)/ xxxxxxxxxx ALSO, it takes life-and-capability to do or be either 'the force of good-and-growth', or 'the force of destruction'. The lack of life can't do/be either force. Since what the force of good produces is life, such life can continue to do forces. But since what the force of destruction produces is death and nothingness and voids in life; since this cannot do or support either force, then the force of destruction alone is destined to a quick end while the force of good and growth alone is destined to continue. Xxxxxxxxxxxx ALSO, since only life can do-be either force: When destruction experiences what it produces, or is applied to itself, it doesn't grow, but instead shrinks to nothing. But when goodness experiences what it produces, (when goodness is good to itself) it does not die, but instead, grows. So, the force of destruction needs something other than just itself to exist (is a parasitic force), while the force of good does not and is self sufficient with just itself. So that when alone, good survives while destruction self eliminates and vanishes. From this we can see that good and growth, is a superior force to the force of death and destruction. Xxxxxxxxxx Let us consider some situations, while keeping in mind these truths: -that it takes life and ability to do/be either goodness, or destruction (and that lack-of -life is unable to cause either of these forces); Inputs and outputs: -that the force of destruction takes in that which is alive as its input/raw material; and produces voids-in-life / inanimate material as its output, as what it produces. -That the force of goodness/growth takes in voids-in-life and inanimate material, as its input/raw material; and produces -life- as its output and what it produces. With these concepts in mind let's consider the situation of the force of destruction in a rich environment. Not only does this force have plenty of its raw material or input (life), present here in the rich environment; -destruction also has what supports what either force is made of (which is also, life). Thus here the force of death-and -destruction can grow rapidly and become quite large here, in a rich environment. xxxxxxxxxxxxx (In this tangent, please consider that since enforcing rules over the gray areas of living life causes a patchwork of rich and barren environments(rules structure and FIX WHERE the good, and destruction, respectively, of a gray action, are done): my question is, why do we scrape together these rich environments where there is the force of destruction nearby -(as destruction is inescapably a part of all gray actions at our level of ability)? This will just result in successive firestorms where the gray actions' destructiveness burns down the rich parts of the patchwork. All this does is feed evil/destructiveness. As for myself, I do not wish to succor and feed the force of destructiveness. End tangent.) (2ndinsert: When a man and woman share their affection with each other, they may think that they enjoy that. What do you think? Do you think that men and women sharing affection is an enjoyable thing? -a force of good? In the imperfect area of human sexuality, some good and also some destruction are generated. Why is this imperfect good forced to live in a RICH area, where it has a hard time finding its input -voids/improvements to make, when there is right next door, areas of barrenness that it needs to make its goodness force active? Why does one torture their imperfect good this way? End 2nd insert.) (Here is another important tangent: Here on earth, we live with what is destructive and also that which is good and growing. In this respect, we often do actions which contain both goodness and growth and also destructiveness in the same action. These actions I would term 'human actions' (also referred to as 'gray actions' ). These human areas are hopelessly a mixture of both goodness and destruction (at our level of ability we're unable to separate the forces), and there is no purity of action in them, as they contain both goodness as well as destructiveness inescapably intertwined in the same action. These mainly center around human hungers and needs. So that whether or not a human action is done, partially done, or refrained from; some destruction is always present, just in different areas. Like when we eat, this is good for our survival, but at the same time, destructive to some other life form's survival as a plant or animal had to die to provide this. And if we don't eat, this is good for the surrounding plants and animal's survival, but destructive to us as we starve. However, in our human world, not all actions are these 'human' or 'gray' actions. Some actions CAN be divided up completely (or much more so), into all good vs. all destructive parts. And it is here, with these non human areas, there can exist a purity of action as is not seen in the human actions. Areas of all-good exist, as well as do areas that are all destructive, exist. However, when areas of purely all destructive exist, they soon self consume and disappear. So that only the areas of all -good exist with such a purity of action. Still, if that which is all-destructive can find a human action, it can feed off the good in the human action, and it won't have to self consume. -(It can continue to exist and not disappear.) So, when the all-good casts off the all-destructive: -to achieve purity of action; the all destructive actions become as ravening wolves seeking to prey upon human actions, feeding off the good in human actions, so that they can survive and won't self consume/die. And who is going to save a human action from being preyed upon by these all destructive actions? It is true that the all destructive action CAN be separated away from the human action, (unlike the destructiveness within the human action that is part of the human action); but who is going to do it? The all destructive action is desperate, as its life depends on preying on a human action, and so has apparently overpowered the human action. An all -good action might intervene and separate an all-destructive action from a human action; but if it did so it would spoil its purity of action and it would no longer be an all-good action. So that all-good actions are reluctant to intervene to separate an all -destructive action from its prey human action, as they loose their purity of action in doing so. So it would seem the all destructive actions (although since they've mixed with the human actions, are no longer purely all destructive), have found a way of survival and a continued food source by preying on the human actions and human hunger satisfying; thus making the human world more towards the destructive side; towards barrenness (which preserves the togetherness of the good and destructive within that human action, as we'll see later). (Recall the parable of the good Samaritan.) xxxxxxxxx However, what about this plan: What if the all-good actions split a small part of themselves off to come and deal with this situation, while leaving their major part of themselves behind, still separate and still maintaining their purity of action. (The smaller part that split off would loose its purity of action through it's intervening.) The smaller part that split off would come and separate the all-destructive part from the human part so that the all destructive part would finally self consume and die; leaving the human action no longer preyed upon by the all destructive action; so that it tended not towards barrenness, but towards medium ability. Thus evil/destruction would be lessened and much eliminated by this plan. Xxxxxxxxxx Now, in the human areas; when the smaller, split off, all good part is generating/creating something (to medium ability), in the vacuums (where there is nothing and barrenness) caused by destruction, even the destruction of rules over human areas,(and even the destructions that are part of the human actions themselves): it is wise for this split off part to limit its exposure to only the human part it is presently creating/generating, and not the rest of that human area; even if this generated material is eventually for the rest of that human area. This is because this smaller, split off, all good part can limit the loss of purity and exposure to destruction, to just what is in the human part it is generating. Once it is done creating a piece of this material, it can then withdraw itself and then allow the rest of the human area to have possession/use of it. So that the split off all good parts of us can act to generate material in isolation, and then shortly, to also act to release pieces of that material away from itself and this isolation, unto the rest of this human area. In these coordinated set of actions that build parts of human actions/things; once a certain part has reached medium ability, this part is no longer generated in isolation, but other parts are, as the split off all good does move onto these other parts that are in need of being brought from nothingness to medium level. The parts at medium level that are no longer being generated, are still participants in the rest of this human area, and do receive what is released from isolation; its just that they do not keep on being generated; so that they do not move then from medium level to high ability, (as a result of this generating in isolation and then release). Xxxxxxxxx There may be a difference in when a part is first being created, and when it is added to in additional generatings. When the split off good part (sogp) is first generating an action, it may divide in two and leave the part to be corrupted in human ways, behind. In order to do this, it generates even less than what is needed for medium ability (in the whole); sort of like the romantic gestures around valentines day, which are small, but mean a lot. Then it moves it all to the half of itself to be left behind in human ways, thus concentrating them. At this point they are now at medium level. (If they had started at medium level, the concentration into the half that was to be left, would result in a high level, which would burn down in the evil present in human ways.) However, with subsequent additions to this action, a more robust doing unto medium level right away can be done, as there now already exists a platform and entity to deliver the generated material to. Note that even if, for the sake of argument say, it turns out that Christianity is a fraud and that Jesus wasn't anybody special: note that the structures of Christianity still exist in our human world and in our universe and within us, anyway; as some areas are more easily all good vs all destructive, while other areas have the destructive and the good hopelessly intertwined in the same action. Where does Jesus fit in? If we take the Biblical account, Jesus was from God, (and is therefore rich). But Jesus also received God's punishment for our sins, unto death. But he survived it as he was resurrected. So we can't say he is as high as God because he also received God sized punishment. But we can't say he represents the low point either, because being of God, he survived the punishment and was resurrected. Somewhere in between the high and the lowest points, I would say (the Bible says somewhat below an angel). Here we see an entity often in between the highness of God, and the lowness of death and nothingness or hell: -who longstandingly represents humanity and the in between, and the medium level; better than any other mortal human ever could. Xxxxxxx It is our sogp(smaller split off part from our all good areas) that then acts to separate destructive parts away from human areas that can be separated away; and to fill vacuums in the human areas to medium ability; and not done by our main high all good parts which are separate and kept away from the human area. So that if we are waiting for God almighty to step in and do this. No. It is the meek and smaller Jesus representations that are here with us in the human area, that do this instead. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For our high, all-good parts to be separate from any/all evil, even the small evil amount found in human actions; is a helpful thing. But this directive to label human appetites as sinful, and make a distinction between the sinful and the all pure; can be taken too far. Just because the all-good needs to be kept ultra pure, doesn't mean the human appetites and the human area is valueless or to be discarded. -That absolute values are applied to say that there is nothing in the human appetite area worth keeping. That is why we have a Jesus representation to intercede between the high all good parts of us, and our human appetite parts. Now, superseding all this, is the directive to either sacrifice completely ones individual components (for the good of the complete whole-and-one's high good parts); or to instead, grow BOTH the areas of ones individual components, as well as one's complete whole. So we want to choose the second option, and put this spin on all we do. So that in one's high good area, we actively generate this dual nature of growing both the components, as well as the whole. Now at the border of our Jesus representation, or sogp, our high good parts are acting to not go into this area (because destructiveness is nearby), and are doing this action of staying out of this area in the dual generating way/spin, and actively so. Now, with the Jesus representation, since it is made from small split off parts from the high parts, it has this dual generating already, and is how it comes naturally, without additional or active effort (if that is how we did our high parts)(since our Jesus representation comes from a small split off of our high parts). And our Jesus representation acts to cast away any evils away from our high parts (including gray/human hunger evils); and also away from itself, (save those which are gray, which are part of human hungers); and also casts away total evils out of gray, human hunger materials/structures; and finally generates to medium ability in vacuums caused by destructivenesses. It is then in these generatings to medium ability in the vacuums that active dual spin `generating' occurs once again. Xxxxx When the sogp is generating to medium ability in the gray areas; one might consider that the sogp should generate to medium ability in all possible gray areas because these are all (supposedly) legitimate areas for growth: and that therefore, one's individual sogp representation should also generate all possible gray areas, even if one has no hunger in some of these gray areas. But the idea of a gray area is that some goodness is obtained for the destruction that is also generated. If you don't have a hunger or need in a possible gray area, then by doing the specific motions of that gray area, you don't derive any satisfaction (or goodness) from it, but the destruction is invariably still done. Hence, if you don't have a hunger or need in a possible gray area, then it is not a gray area for you, but an all evil area. So that once your hunger is satisfied, you don't continue feeding indefinitely, but do stop feeding. Now, if a partner is involved in a gray area hunger/feeding, one should respect the partner's need to continue feeding until satisfied; even though one is right to stop their own feeding once one is satisfied. But in areas where one experiences hunger in, it is ok to generate to medium ability after ones hunger has been satisfied after finished material has been spirited away to the all good, leaving a complete vacuum in this gray area, but now not so, since one generated to medium ability before ending the feeding. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx In this out of place insert, I was reading in the philosophy section, and discovered the argument about if there is evil in the world, that proves that there is no benevolent, all powerful omnipresent God. -That either he wants to remove all evil, but can't (and is therefore not all powerful); or he IS able, but doesn't want to (making him malevolent). But my answer to this is that God IS dealing with the evil in this world; and that the situation we see today of God to be nowhere in sight, with evil running freely about with no almighty Godly intervention, IS the process whereby God is successfully dealing with all the evil. Because evil/destruction is a parasitic force and not self sufficient; by just leaving it alone, it self eliminates. For an almighty or God the Father to come down in power and richness/love to confront evil/destruction, would just provide the material for the force of evil/destruction to grow. So that Gods presence would just perpetuate and encourage/grow evil. So to eliminate evil, almighty God acts by staying away; and sends a lesser powered representative, Jesus Christ, to separate these all-evils off human actions so the evil is totally isolated and can self eliminate. -these evils that keep popping up due to people's free will, whereby they are learning to advance to be more and more powerful as well as good. Now because the moral evils perpetrated by humans, demarks areas where God stays away in his process of eliminating evil; then natural destructions that occur in these same areas don't change that. Hence Christ's words about natural evils that the people caught in them aren't any more sinful than others, but that those not in him will all likewise perish; indicating that those who are in him, have the presence of God to protect them; not on this earth, but in that they die and are resurrected again in perfection in him. So that from a philosophical sense, there is no trouble with the existence of an almighty benevolent God; although He is deliberately not omnipresent; as a tool to remove evil. However, God is omnipresent if you count Jesus and the rest of us underlings who work in the name of Jesus. Now then; unfortunately, many who work in the name of Jesus, have so irritated the rest of us with their holier than though behavior and inappropriate restriction of the sex drive, that it is completely understandable why some would try to come up with a philosophical argument against the existence of a benevolent God. Its just that that is incorrect as I hope I have eluded to. Not that it can be proven absolutely that God exists. Where we are at now, is that it isn't proven absolutely either way whether God does exist or does not exist. Gone is the proof that God does not exist. However, I think I have shown that goodness/kindness is a superior force over destructiveness; so that the odds are good that a benevolent God does exist, and that if not now, that one may exist in the future; and if that means that this future benevolent God is not quite God but is only a near God, an almost God due to the fact that He did not always exist, then so be it. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Let us now consider the force of destruction: When one person kills another; that is often referred to as murder, is considered wrong, and the person is considered a criminal. But when a soldier kills for his country in war, he is considered a hero, and that is considered OK and right. Then, when a man has sex with a woman, that is either considered OK and good (an holy estate ordained by God); or something terribly wrong, depending on whether the pair share a marriage license or not. Even so; whatever the case, a man and a woman having consensual sex is common to all these (both right and wrong) cases. Yes, with just the change of a little window dressing, reality can change from being absolutely right, to being absolutely wrong. (Well, if reality is so easily changed, why haven't we eliminated suffering?) With reality being able to be changed from right to wrong and vice versa, with the change of a few details, is it any wonder that reality does change often from right to wrong and vice versa? With the world changing so often, is it any wonder that we might crave something stable; something that is like a rock and unchanging; something that is absolute; someone like God? Perhaps, however, we might consider that reality doesn't actually change that much with the change of a little window dressing. (This is the position taken by eastern religions -that " good " and " bad " , " right " and " wrong " are human judgments, and have little to no effect on actual reality, the cycle of life (and death).) We might consider that there are aspects inherently within the actions of sex and violence that are inherently good or bad, and that do not change based on a change of some window dressing. -that killing, whether done for one's country, or for personal passion, has some things that are inherently bad. And that consensual sex between a man and a woman has attributes of positiveness and/or negativeness that persist irregardless of whether the pair is married, not married, cheating, etc. There is however, one example of reality changing 180 based on a change in details concerning the act of killing. Killing is so negative because it is so destructive of life. But when destruction is turned back on itself, a 180, about face is achieved. When a murder kills, we as society feel the pain from that destructiveness. But when a policeman kills a murderer in preventing other murders, that is a destruction of destructiveness, which results in stopping destruction to society in actual reality. So that in this case, killing is OK; and actually makes quite a difference in the amount of overall destruction done. Let us consider the concept of destruction and destructiveness. Let's consider it as an elusive concept; -an unknown quantity. (how much destruction is there in a given situation?) -That in a twinkling of an eye, it can go from almost nothing, to double trouble; (so that we never really know (without being really smart) how much destruction there is or that one has). Like when the English police (destructively) kill a terrorist before he can (destructively) blow up a train, then the result is the public is saved with little overall destruction resulting. But when the English police mistakenly (destructively) kill an innocent man who they thought was a terrorist, but wasn't in reality; and while doing that, the real terrorist eludes detection and (destructively) blows up a train, then overall, a whole lot of destruction has resulted. But before we explore the concept of destruction any further; here are some out of place tangents: Speaking of destructiveness, what would we have done if Hitler would have won? Well, mankind's history is full of examples where cruel despots did win. In fact, Hitler loosing seems more the exception than the rule. Take the roman empire for example. They conquered and conquered till they were ruler of the whole area. Nobody could stop them. And they hung around for a long time and made life miserable for the slaves that did all their dirty work. But eventually they fell. Some say it was their immorality and wantonness that did them in. Others say it was their infighting that did them in. But I think it was their women that pulled the plug. I think that once there was nobody else to conquer and take slaves from, that they had to make slaves of themselves. And that life for the underclass which did all the work to build their extensive building projects to make life sweet for their elite: -I think that life for these underclass got so bad that the women who were part of that society thought that their world was too bad to bring offspring into, or that they lacked the resources to raise children as they were being taxed so heavily. I get this from the history channel's mention of how the emperor of the time noticed how birth rates of his subjects was declining (and Rome was famous for taking census'), and that he in response attempted to bring morality in and encourage family structure, in order to bring governmental emphasis onto raising offspring for the empire. And of course as we know, the Romans first persecuted Christianity, then adopted Christianity (Catholic Christianity) as the state religion -reportedly in response to a vision in battle, but I also think, conveniently to bring emphasis to morality and harnessing the sex drive to raise offspring for the roman empire. But it didn't work out. Where all others had failed to overthrow the roman empire; when things got so bad, the women said collectively that they had had enough, and they brought it to an end. -by not having/raising sufficient offspring to support that empire. Admire the awesome power possessed by women who I say brought the roman empire to an end, where no other was able. But we do have one relic from the defeated roman empire -catholic Christianity. Under this religion, birth control is severely restricted and its members just pop out child after child, thinking this is what God wants. (But there's nothing in the Bible even mentioning being against birth control. -totally a roman's catholic invention.) A ready source of human labor is the result, but with no roman empire to put it to work. Just a little too late to save the roman empire. -so busy raising children trying to catch up with their population decline, they didn't have resources to keep up their war machine. The rest of history is stuck with this relic -roman's Catholicism, that keeps its population popping out children so that the world is so overpopulated for the resources available, that when the little ice age hits, it precipitates disease and the black plague that wipes out a third of the (over) population. If humans won't control their reproduction, nature will do it for them. In Mexico, they are predominantly catholic, and it is so crowded there that they leave their country to come over here for better conditions as illegal immigrants. But just think. If those that come over here continue their traditional ways and overpopulate over here, the standard of living over here will become just as poor as where they left, so what's the point? (of coming over here?) (Well, perhaps I am too harsh. One point of coming over here would be to share in the wealth that American companies have taken from them through globalization. However, having too many children keeps a country weak and ripe for exploitation such as this.) Our govt (at least in border areas) needs to pay women a few million dollars for having one or 2 kids, but nothing if they have more. -At adult age, the govt could pay women every month the monthly fraction of 2 million dollars if they had one or 2 children, but the day they had 3, the payments would end. This would insulate our society and our standard of living from those who do not restrict the offspring that they have, (in a world that is not free of destruction). In today's society, consider yourself a poor young woman or a poor young man. Perhaps you have been passed over for the more favorable positions in your world, and all you have left to expect is a life of drudgery. And you say to yourself, there is nothing else for me to do but to raise a family and get involved in the life of our kids. This was how I thought when I was young, but now wish to sound a warning to this path. Consider that we live in a material world, and that everything including ourselves as persons is given a value, which is why they call it the 'human resources 'department at work. Consider the economic law of supply and demand: -If there is a surplus of a commodity, then its value will be low; whereas if there is a scarcity of a commodity, it will have a high value. Consider that if men and women in a family structure spit out child after child after child, that the supply of people will be in a surplus, and that they will be treated as of low value in this economic system we are in. As a human, if there is something I can do which will improve the treatment of my fellow man, I would consider it. And that if we collectively can limit the number of offspring we have, then the ruling system that we are in will be forced in some respects to treat us better. But you may say, I am young and I am lonely, and I need some children to make my life complete. And I say, OK, have one child, or at most, two; but please avoid having a large family -when you are in a system whereby doing this collectively would substantially lower everyone's standard of living. However, even I have violated my own advice due to my ignorance of youth. Consider that if women didn't supply such a ready supply of humans, then perhaps the governments that rule over them wouldn't be so wasteful of the human resources that they have: that they wouldn't be so easy to send them into wars where they are destroyed (wasted). Governments are often wasteful of the resources that they have, and this seems to include human resources. If we apply the concept of seeking a medium environment when evil is present; to whether a woman should have children: I see this: woman who are in an absolutely evil society with no goodness, may act to not have any children, and thereby put an end to this destructive society similar to the doing destruction to destruction concept. And men who are supposed to work, can do no work and also thereby not feed evil. But in a society that contains some evil, but also some good, women in this society can have a limited number of children (not an excessive number of children (rich environment)), and so help create a medium environment, where the evil can separate away. And also, men who are supposed to work, can do a little work (not an excessive amount) and thereby help create the desired medium environment. And of course, women in a totally GOOD society can have many children and men can do much work; as here, the rich environment won't be burned down by evil. So that the catholic or other religious way of having many children and not using much birth control does actually have a right place. And that place is in a world of all good where there is no evil, where love reigns supreme. Here in this kind of world, this is the right thing to do. But we do not live in perfection yet, so we need to act differently with our offspring production. Also, as the world becomes ever more populated, the specter of overpopulation looms. If the world becomes too overpopulated (and it can be calculated when the world will become this way at our present pace), then life will be unpleasant for most of us, as there won't be enough resources to share among us all. -until we find a way to support even more people, or join us all together as one. In this tangent, I had the opportunity to hear the old song about the leader of the pack, and sorry I hurt you leader of the pack (of bikers). Unfortunately for the leader of the pack, he wipes out and dies, when dumped by his girl at the request of her father. (And if she wanted to be a rebel herself, in the sexual area, that would be incompatible with his desire for a traditional relationship.) My interpretation of this song, is that the leader of the pack desired to settle down with this girl in the respectable way; ie this was his girl in the traditional morality. But in other areas of his life, this leader/biker was not respectable and in fact was a rebel to society: and that this contradiction of/within the different parts of his life, blew him away. Such is the case with many. There are many who hate religion and denounce Christ, but who in the area of sexuality, cling closely to the traditional morality of one man one woman and no cheating. These also, help contribute to the end of the world just as much as any religious person. In another tangent: Some ask the question do you believe in the existence of God? And to these people especially I would ask: do you believe that humans exist? Yes, in a world made of only winners and losers; rich and impoverished; where people are either extensions of God, or extensions of the devil; where everything/everyone is seen in either black or white, and absolute judgments are applied to everyone; where there is no middle ground, or middle class anymore: -humans may have existed once in the distant past, but I'm beginning to doubt that they still exist today. (because humans are in between God and nothingness; and it seems anything in between is not allowed or tolerated anymore.) Unfortunately for us who are actually human (due to the fact that much of what we do contains/produces both goodness and destructiveness (cursing and blessing) in the same action): but who aren't allowed to express this humanness (due to the fact that the goodness and destructiveness that they produce are segregated into separate areas; so that the absolutes of total richness, and total bareness are generated (instead of a medium result in between rich and poor)): then this whole system is destined for eventual self consumption into total nothingness and bareness (as explained later). Fortunately, I take heart in the laws of God over human sexual expression. As a human comes naturally, they usually have an attraction for the opposite sex, so that left to their own devices they usually have sexual relations with members of the opposite sex. I state that at this level (that of an intact human), that God's laws/rules over human sexuality are not absolute -are neither always approving nor always disapproving of a couple's sexuality. As we shall see, it is important for us who must often do both destruction and good in the same action (formerly known as humans), to be in a MEDIUM environment between rich and barren. In the sexual area, this can be achieved by humans just being themselves as how they are naturally, and then receiving God's judgment for that. So that when one has sex with a member of the opposite sex who they are married to, then they receive approval and the richness of God; and then when they later have sex with someone who isn't their spouse, then they receive condemnation and punishment from God. Receiving both good reward and punishment at the same time, results in a medium environment, which is just what the human needs to live in. This is what the soldiers in trouble in Iraq are trying to accomplish also. Our government rewards us for killing for our country, but punishes us for killing for personal reasons. The soldiers in trouble in Iraq have done both, and thus they should receive both good reward, and also punishment. They hope this will provide them with the medium environment they need as humans. The government however, favors absolutes, and wishes to thwart this attempt at human expression by condemning these men to the death penalty. `Ha, they didn't get to be human after all, the govt. laughs'. But let's look at the bigger picture: we have Jesus, who took upon himself the sins of us all and received the punishment for it. Now, it is this scapegoat-ing and segregating of the negative, destructive, punishments into one area, while segregating the positive, rich, rewards to another area, that is something the lovers of absolutes just love to do; and it is par for their course. So Jesus, who is (rich) of God, takes on and receives this punishment (assumedly from God) for sin. And of course the wages of sin is reportedly, death. So Jesus received the punishment of death: but Jesus lived through it. So it is then Jesus who by combining richness (because he was of God), with bareness (from the absolute condemnation from God (for sins)); who has successfully generated this medium environment, that we humans (formerly humans, excuse me), so desperately need to allow our human ways to expire before we join God; and also to provide in earthly life, a medium environment over barrenness in a world with evil where the ways of God aren't present at that time/place. Even if these soldiers do not achieve the humanness they sought, they needn't worry, because Jesus already has, and they can just join Him. Consider that the persona of Jesus Christ, as portrayed in the Bible, is not an absolute. That at one end of the scale, is God the Father, who represents the absolute and extreme of richness: and that death and the devil represents the other extreme and absolute -that of barrenness and poverty. But consider that Jesus never fits either of these absolutes or extremes, but is somewhere in between, representing humanity. This ends my out of place tangent. Now we continue with the force of destruction: If there's no basic difference between good and evil, then it doesn't really matter whether you do right or wrong. -The natural consequences would be the same. The only people it matters to are the 3rd parties who say what's right or wrong. Well, my definition of good vs evil does have a basic difference. -One destroys life and shrinks; the other increases life and grows, (in separation). But when another definition of right and wrong that does not have a common thread of basic difference between right and wrong, appears, it's just a diversion from the basic differences that do exist. It's a frustration, a GAME!, a waste of time. I mean, why bother making distinction between right and wrong if they're both the same or of similar make -up? We don't all like the same things. Some of us like a little cruelty. Some don't go for this lovey dovey stuff; and want a little more discipline and strictness. -What about these people? Why should God have a personality more to my liking, while leaving these people at odds with God? Why shouldn't God be more like these people? What makes me so special; to have God more on my side? Well, God could be cruel, harsh, and demanding. Or he could be something else. But we have already covered this. We've shown that a benevolent God is the most powerful; and that a non benevolent God has a weakness and can eventually be replaced by a benevolent God. So what can I say? Those who like to be mean, are going to be at odds with the most powerful God. I'm sorry that this is the way it is, but it is from the effects of meanness itself; that meanness does not provide the power to support the most powerful God; while love and kindness do. In other words, let us emphasize that which is destructive vs that which is not destructive, is growing and loving, as opposed to other criteria. Let's consider what can be done and how we can respond to the problem of destructiveness/destruction. We can use destruction against itself as a way to solve this problem. When there is destructiveness, we all suffer (from the poverty and bareness it brings). But when a policeman or lawgiver uses destructiveness against itself, (by doing destruction to criminals (who are themselves destructive)), then society is relieved, as the destruction from criminals is prevented. Hence a legitimate organization of police and lawgivers and laws can grow up around this concept (of doing (measured) destruction to those who are destructive (in a destroying of destruction)). Police and law enforcers are destructive, yes, but when that is applied to destructive criminals, it works out to lower overall destruction. But when laws grow beyond punishing the destructive, to punishing people for non destructive crimes, then the concept falls apart, and the police and lawgivers themselves become the agents/sources/instigators/perpetrators of destruction, thus increasing the destruction in society (taking on the role of 'criminal' themselves). -When destruction is applied against itself (as when police are destructive to destructive criminals), a net reduction/lowering in the overall destruction results. -But when law enforcers enforce laws against non violent, non destructive criminals; THIS PURPOSE ISN'T SERVED; because in this case, destruction wasn't used against itself: -there wasn't a destroying of destruction. -So there's no lowering of overall destruction but instead, increased destruction, with police being the perpetrators of this increase in destruction; as the result. This method of lowering overall destruction (by turning destruction upon itself) is a precarious balance. If one doesn't get it right and know exactly where the destruction is (like where are the WMD's) ; and only destroys what is destructive, then they themselves -the police, the good guys, then become agents of destruction and it no longer works that overall destruction is lowered. Hence this method to deal with (that is, to lower or eliminate) destructiveness (by turning destruction against itself), although in theory it can work; it requires one to know in depth just where the destructiveness is, and to only do destruction there. Otherwise, if one doesn't get it right, then they haven't solved the problem of destructiveness, and may well have made it worse by increasing the amount of actual destructiveness done. But when someone is mean and destructive to you, what else can you do but do destruction back to them, so as to destroy destructiveness? It would seem your choices are to do nothing: or to get back at them. What else is there? Well, there is another response, and that is to be a 'sorter'. In the Bible there is talk of how God at the end of the world will sort and separate the good from the evil, the goats from the sheep, the weeds from the crop plants. And of course the bad will be burned in a fire while the good will receive heaven. (but that here on earth the 'tares' and the 'wheat' will not be separated and will live together). What I say is, why wait till the end of time before this sorting takes place? Or, let us precipitate the end of time by doing this 'sorting' now. And do this sorting in a non destructive way, so that the sorting itself won't be sorted together with what is destructive. Yes, each should be sorted and separated unto its own kind. The mean and destructive people should be separated from the not-mean and not -destructive people. The sex offenders should be put together so they may sexually offend each other; the murderers should be put together so they can kill each other; the thieves should live together so that they can steal from each other. Who are we to say that these things are wrong and make laws against these things and impose our morality on others? If that is what these people want to do, let them prove the rightness or wrongness of these things themselves, by actually doing these things (to each other). Who are we to say what is right or wrong outside of the actions speaking for themselves -outside of actually proving it with the actions themselves? How can we know for sure? How can you be sure that your version of right and wrong is correct? If we are to come up with a version of right and wrong outside of actions speaking for themselves; we need to come up with a true version of what is right and wrong; and what if we're in error and come up with an inaccurate version of what's right and wrong? -then our version of right and wrong becomes an instrument of destruction, just like the wrongdoers we're making these laws against. But the action to sort and separate like people into groups together (according to their actions), itself, makes no judgment as to the rightness or wrongness of their actions. -It sorts and separates the good people together just as well. -These good people must put up with the goodness that each does to each other. We must put up with what we produce, when we are sorted unto our own kind; whether that be destructiveness; or goodness. Because of this, we need NOT otherwise come up with a second system of accurate laws of right and wrong outside of the actions themselves (so that the actions will speak for themselves). So that yes, I am prejudice and I discriminate (against mean people). And I believe that people should be separated and made to live with their own kind -not according to the color of their skin, but according to the destructiveness and meanness that is within them that they do. -so that the mean people are put together and that they are separate from the not mean people that are also put together. And the destructive containing versions of right and wrong will also be sorted and separated to its own kind.-according to the destructiveness or lack thereof that it contains and does. So that instead of doing destruction back to mean people, I instead act to non destructively sort them -each to their own kind -according to the destructiveness or lack thereof that they do. And if I myself am not destructive, then I will be sorting myself away from them (the meanies). This is a better way than what we have now. Prisons are a start but they must be made non destructive and not be places of punishment (outside of what the prisoners do to each other), but instead be places of separation and sorting, where the mean people are kept together and away from the rest of us non mean, non violent people. However, when considering the gray areas (of living life on earth), they are by definition, areas where we're unable to separate the good and destruction: -where single actions do both good and destruction at the same time (to different areas). Here we're unable to do this sorting, -we cannot sort good parts from destructive parts, as a part is both good and destructive. So, here we must resort to some destruction, not only in acting in the gray area, but also to partially destroy absolute rules. Xx Note also, that there is an exception to this sorting all to be together with their same kind. Men and women are different and so should be sorted away from each other. But that isn't workable, because men and women need to get together for reproduction. And as we know, we wish to discourage men and women who are alike from getting together so as not to squeeze the individual entity more. Also, there needs to be some connection between unbalanced individuals that make up a societal entity so that they may share their production with each other, as this is how the societal entity works; and if they were forced to be alone with themselves, they would lack all the other productions that everybody else produced. So there are exceptions to this sorting unto like kind. But when it comes to destruction vs kindness, it works out well, because it allows good to exploit its advantage in that if it can be separated from evil, it will survive while evil will die. Maybe we can just stick to using this segregation concerning good vs evil only. xxxxxxxx When we have perfected an area and are satisfied with it, we usually keep it the way it is and don't change it. Here we shut off alternative possibilities and stick with what we've got. But if an area is a work in progress and contains imperfection, then on the contrary, we don't want to preserve it and keep it the way it is, but instead, are open to change. Here we're open to all the possibilities and are not so quick to shut out possibilities in order to select just one way. Let us consider where making up and enforcing rules fits into this. When we make rules, we eliminate, out of all the possibilities, that which we don't want. Obedience to rules requires that someone do destruction and destroy any emerging possibilities outside the prescribed course, whether we destroy them within ourselves, or enforcers destroy them when we don't self discipline. Hence rule making and obeying, is inherently a user of destruction to obtain its goals. When we close our minds to destructive possibilities, that works because being destructive to that which is destructive, lowers overall destruction. But if we don't get it right, and our laws eliminate non destructive possibilities, then our system of making/enforcing rules has increased the amount of overall destruction due to the fact that making/enforcing rules, itself, involves the use of destruction (to eliminate the possibilities outside the prescribed course). Since this is just another form of using destruction against destruction, it also falls under the requirement that the user know in depth, and get it right. (This is why 'vengeance is mine sayeth the lord', because only God knows enough to use destruction to eliminate destruction without causing more destruction in the process.) Not only is the concept of making and enforcing rules, a user of destructiveness to accomplish its goal; it additionally detaches people from reality/actuality. Because alternatives outside the prescribed path aren't allowed to exist; they can't be observed, experimented with, or worked with (or learned from). And the only contact with reality / actuality is -what is within the prescribed path. (This is unlike the sorting method, where the evil/destruction still exists -just that it exists separately (although not for long as it destroys itself).) Since using destruction against destruction requires the user to know it, in order to get it right and not become a doer, a source of destruction themselves: if one doesn't know it all from the start, its difficult to learn along the way in an environment which is largely detached from reality. And if out of ignorance you apply and enforce rules which are inaccurate then you yourself become an instrument and source of destruction through these rules. And since the use of rules does greatly detach us from reality; we can continue being inaccurate in our rules, in our ignorance for quite awhile without realizing it. Since rules work by applying destruction against destruction, this works only when one knows what's going on. But since the rules method also greatly detaches one from reality/actuality (so that one cannot know, but must take it by faith); this sets the rules user up to fail more often than not. Taking something by faith is understandable if it's something we're unable to know for sure. But requiring that we take things by faith when it's possible to know for sure, but that we don't allow because we don't allow anything outside the rules to exist at all, and thus have nothing to experiment with or learn from: is just incompetence. There are things which have both goodness and destruction inseparably in them, in the gray areas of actually living life on this earth. None of the previously proposed ways suggested to deal with and overcome destruction in this situation, works. But the making and enforcing rules method is worst because it freezes this imperfect situation as it is (by eliminating all possibilities except that within the prescribed course; thus preventing change), and does so in detachment from reality/actuality and hinders change out of this situation. Consider a gray action which inseparably (at our level of ability) produces both goodness and destructiveness (to different areas) when done. What is the result of rules applied in this action? Well, first let's consider this area without rules. Suppose when we do this action, goodness in area A results, but also, destruction in area B results. If we do this action then goodness (A) and destruction ( will result. If we destroy, eliminate or don't do this gray action, then destruction in area A and goodness in area B will be the result. Either way, destructiveness is always present (in different areas). So no matter if we completely destroy, partially destroy, or do no destruction to this gray action: we'll have been unsuccessful at completely eliminating destructiveness here. The plan to use destruction against itself won't have worked here until we're able to dissect this action and apply destruction only to the destructive parts of this action. And if we're unable to do this at our level of ability then we're unable to eliminate destructiveness completely. The same problem occurs with the sort and segregate this action unto its own kind method. If we're unable to dissect this action into component parts and segregate the destructive parts away from the good parts, (because this is a gray action which by definition we're unable to separate its good parts from its destructive parts at our level of ability), we're thus unable to do the segregating idea, by definition. If we apply no rules to this action then a haphazard pattern of sometimes doing this action and sometimes not doing this action can result, with area A receiving goodness some of the time and destructiveness the rest of the time; and area B receiving destruction some of the time and goodness the rest of the time. But if we apply a rule either for or against this gray action, then a structure is put to the gray action, so that one area will receive goodness all the time and the other area will receive destruction all the time as a result of the gray action. Even if we apply a rule which allows this action in some circumstances while prohibiting this action in other circumstances: this will involve subdivided area A's and B's. And in these subdivided areas, some will receive destruction all the time, and others will receive goodness all the time. And when an area or subdivided area receives destruction all the time, it becomes barren and desolate. When an area receives goodness all the time, it becomes rich and at high ability. This is what is created when rules are applied to a gray action. Rules put a structure to the gray actions so that their goodness and destructions are fixed to the same areas; unlike a haphazard doing of the gray actions under no rules. When an area receives destruction some of the time and goodness other times, then the area becomes of medium ability -neither desolate nor rich. This is what results when no absolute rules are applied to a gray action. When rules are applied to gray actions, the destructiveness of the gray action is segregated to one area while the goodness of a gray action is segregated to other areas, so that a patchwork of desolate environments and rich environments is the result. When life that is mainly destructive, acts, it produces an environment of desolation. When life that is mainly good acts, it produces a rich environment. And when (earthly) life that is in some ways good, but is in other ways destructive, acts: it can produce an environment that is neither desolate nor rich, but that is at a medium level. It is in these medium level environments where the forces separate, -where goodness becomes separate from destructiveness. in the rich environment the good can't get away from the evil due to evil's fast growth in a rich environment. -when the life material is fed into areas at medium level of ability: here the goodness is able to get away and become separate from the destructiveness (and when forced to survive alone, is able to survive). Eliminating and destroying rules out of gray actions allows the goodness in gray actions to be open to all alternatives thus allowing change and thus be freed from the destructiveness in the gray action(s). While applying absolute rules to gray actions, preserves the state they are in -that is of having both goodness and destructiveness together, to the point that gray actions need these rules in order to persist as gray actions. Thus it behooves us to destroy and tear down (in a partial, special way) the rules that always keep everything the same in these gray actions (and in Pleasantville), and allow anarchy to rule in the gray actions. (Just remember that such partial destroying of these gray rules is also impure; and being such, also needs a mechanism to keep it also from spoiling our pure areas). Just think, without rules, the gray actions which do both good and destruction, can reap what they sow, which is a medium and middle class environment, instead of either rich or barren. And here the good present can heal itself and free itself from the destruction and escape to a rich life separate from the destruction. Whereas with absolute rules over gray aspects of life; there results a patchwork of bareness and richness (as a result of that gray actions do both good and destruction, and that rules have structured the gray actions to always be done the same way, then some pieces of the patchwork always receive destruction and other pieces always receive goodness); thus generating a patchwork of rich and bareness in the presence of a destructive force (because gray actions have some destructiveness inseparably as part of them): thus resulting in firestorms where that destructive force burns down the rich parts of the patchwork, leaving only barrenness in the end. (This segment is repeated.) Let us analyze goodness vs destructiveness, and consider some situations, while keeping in mind these truths: -that it takes life and ability to do/be either goodness/growth, or destruction-and-death (and that lack-of-life isn't able to cause either force); Inputs and outputs: -that the force of destruction-and-death takes IN what's alive as its input-or-raw material, and produces voids-in-life and inanimate material as its OUTPUT as what it produces. -That the force of goodness-and-growth takes IN voids-in-life and inanimate material, as its input-or-raw material, and produces 'life' as its OUTPUT and what it produces. With these concepts in mind let's consider the situation of the force of destruction -and-death in a rich environment. (Here in a rich environment, note that the force of good/growth DOES NOT have much or any of its input raw material (which is voids in life), and so it is not capable of rapid growth here in the rich environment.) Here, not only does the force (of destruction) have plenty of its raw material or input (life); it also has what supports what either force is made of (which is life). Thus here in the rich environment, the force of death-and-destruction can grow rapidly and become quite large. (Compare this to a medium environment: In a medium environment, destruction doesn't have as much of its input, nor does it have as much of what forces can be made of. Thus destruction can't grow as fast, thus allowing goodness(which has more of its input here, allowing for equal growth footing/opportunity) to get away from the force of destruction. Once away from destruction, the two forces are alone, and the good survives while the destruction self consumes.) (In this tangent, please consider that since enforcing rules over the gray areas of living life causes a patchwork of rich and barren environments: my question is, why do we scrap together these rich environments where there is the force of destruction nearby -(as destruction is inescapably a part of all gray actions at our ability level)? (Why do we prevent the force of good from growing here, -keeping it from its input (voids-which are scarce in rich environments)? These rich environments (which are full of destruction's growth input) will just result in successive firestorms where the gray actions' destructiveness burns down the rich parts of the patchwork. (and since the force of destruction has grown rapidly and large in the once rich environment, it usually burns this part of the patchwork down completely to barrenness.) All this does is feed evil/destructiveness. As for myself, I don't wish to succor and feed the force of destructiveness. End tangent.) END REPEAT Let us now consider the reverse situation: -that is with the force of goodness-and -growth in a barren environment. Here the force of goodness has an abundance of its input or raw material (that being voids in life/inanimate material), but unlike the previous situation, it doesn't have an abundance of what supports what either force is made of (which is life). So here, even though it has plenty of its input/raw material, this force of goodness isn't able to grow rapidly at least not right away, -until it is able to generate enough life from the inanimate to support what it is made of. With both the forces at low ability, neither is able to do much, so the force of good is unable to get away from the force of destruction, thus preserving the togetherness of the 2 forces in this situation. Hence in neither a rich nor barren environment can the forces separate. When we humans are going about our daily lives, most of what we do is neither all good nor all destructive but is usually some of both. And this is due to that the human ways/actions available to us usually contain both goodness and also destructiveness as part of the same action. So that we produce both life and voids in life, which tends to result in a medium environment (between rich and barren). And in our medium environment, the destructiveness force (which is one part of our human ways), doesn't have access to an excessive amount of its input (which is life), and doesn't have access to an excessive amount of what it can be made of (which is also life). It is thus NOT able to grow incredibly rapidly (like it would in a rich environment). We are thus able to avoid and get away from it. (When we get away from it, it(destruction) no longer has a source of good to feed it. It is alone, and alone it consumes itself and dies, unlike when good is alone and is able to survive when alone.) Here we can see how a medium ability environment is useful where evil is present that needs separating away, to separate the forces. Here we're able to get away and separate from the evil, whereas in a rich environment the evil would grow too fast for us to do so. (And in a barren environment, the directive of good has no special advantage or fast growth; (it thus remains unable to get away/separate from the destruction it is with); so that won't help either). (We can see that neither rich nor barren environments are effective, but that medium, middle environments are effective.) And once separate from the evil, the evil has no food supply and it burns itself out and disappears, while the good survives. Just think, without rules, the gray actions which do both good and destruction, can reap what they sow, which is a medium and middle class environment, instead of either rich or barren. And here the good present can heal itself and free itself from the destruction and escape to a rich life separate from the destruction. Whereas with absolute rules over gray aspects of life; there results a patchwork of bareness and richness in the presence of a destructive force (because gray actions have some destructiveness inseparably as part of them): thus resulting in firestorms where that destructive force burns down the rich parts of the patchwork, leaving only barrenness. And not only that: under no rules, when an environment is middle class and medium, -no lives are eliminated. However, in the barren parts of the rule ridden structure, where this piece of the patchwork receives mostly destruction: the material in this area does not survive. -Because when something is beaten down again and again and only receives destruction, it eventually dies and is completely destroyed. Now the death of this material doesn't heal the world, as the world continues being a place where actions (gray) continue to have both destructive as well as good effects. -that hasn't been healed or changed. The world continues on living, but now gray actions cannot act on material that doesn't exist. The material that died no longer exists. So gray actions in this rulie world are forced to take remaining material that does exist. Thus some from the rich area must now be thrown into the barren area. And as those in the barren area die off, more and more from the rich areas must be sucked down. And it is all so senseless, as this downward and eventually total self consumption occurs only in the rulie version of earthly life. So unless you have a death wish, and if you want to live and love and get better, then cast the rules out of earthly life. Smash them down. As we now know, they are the sources of death destruction and stagnation, holding us back from getting better. Since we know where the source of destruction is, we can use destruction against destruction here. Well, if we can segregate rules away from us to be with that which is destructive; this is better because it does not require us to get it exactly right. But in a pinch, if we're unable to do this, we can know we're probably ok to use destruction against rules over our gray areas of our earthly life. Rules try to associate themselves with God and the overall good and try to make themselves out to be pure and holy. But as we have seen, rules are users of destruction. They can dish it out with impunity, but hide behind God and goodness when it is their turn to take it. No longer. They should now take what they dish out; as we now see they are no better than the rest of the shit that goes on here on this imperfect human earth. However, let us consider another point of view: Let's consider that by applying rules to a gray action, we thereby cause destruction to be segregated to one area, and goodness to be set aside to another area, that we thereby quarantine the force of destructiveness, (where after it brings its area to desolation, then dies out and is thereby eliminated). The only problem with this line of reasoning is: this is a gray action which by definition has goodness and destructiveness inseparably in it (at least at our level of ability). There is no separation of goodness from destructiveness, by definition; by the situation itself. The destructiveness always has a source of goodness nearby to feed on through the common link of the gray action. So that the destructiveness is not truly quarantined but always has a supply of goodness nearby due to the nature of gray actions whereby they produce goodness and destruction from the same action. So that destruction doesn't actually burn itself out and die but is preserved at a low level, as it is occasionally able to get some of the nearby goodness common to the gray action it is part of (and burn it completely down in a firestorm). Rules don't work when applied to gray actions. They don't change the fact that some destruction is done (they just rearrange where (in which areas) it is done) and hence are no better than anarchy in the gray areas in terms of the level of overall destruction done. And if there are rules over gray actions (which people say are from God), that rearrange where destruction is done in gray areas without eliminating the destruction in gray areas, then they tie God to being a doer of destruction (in the gray areas) done not for the purpose of eliminating other destruction. -(that is, being a source of destruction). Evildoers also do destructive things not for the purpose of eliminating other destruction and are also sources/perpetrators of destruction. These rules from God over the gray areas then make God out to be no better than an evildoer or a sinner. (And to them who would kill those who speak against the rules of God as instructed by the old testament Bible, we should sort them together with those who would murder and kill so the rest of us won't have to put up with the destruction they do.) The rules over gray areas don't effectively quarantine its destructiveness to the point it is eliminated. The rules actually preserve a gray area in its present state and prevent the goodness from being able to be separate from the destructiveness. And, the rules detach us greatly from reality by preventing any alternative ways from existing. and through this ignorance allow for their continued use to the exclusion of all else even though they are ineffective and even a hindrance to goodness. Why can't earthly life reap what it sows? -experience what it naturally produces? Life here on earth that does neither all good nor all destruction, naturally produces an environment that is at a medium level -between desolation and richness. But if rules are applied here, then medium level environments will disappear leaving only patchworks of desolate and rich environments in its place; which will thus preserve the earthly life as is and prevent its change out of the togetherness of goodness and destruction. But to accomplish this, the natural product that earthly life produces -that of a medium level environment, must be denied it. It must be acted on to prevent this from happening. Who or what would want to preserve earthly life as it is and prevent change out of this situation? Well, goodness or God certainly would not. God has no need of anything we might produce here on earth. But the force of destructiveness is an inferior force that can't survive on its own. If alone it will bring its area to desolation and then cease to exist. To keep existing, it requires the togetherness of good and destruction so it always has something to feed on. (i.e., the knowledge of good-AND-evil) -knowing that good and evil are always together. So then it is the force(s) of destruction that desire to detain earthly life in its present state (of goodness and destruction together) and prevent its progress out of this togetherness, so as to preserve the forces of destruction. So any rules in gray areas, although they may claim to be from God: if they act to preserve our present gray state, by making environments of desolation and/or richness out of environments that would otherwise be of a medium level; then these rules actually are from the forces of destruction, and we are doing their bidding, not God's. Some may help make and enforce rules over our earthly gray actions of living earthly life; and they may also call themselves champions of compassion, Christian charity and love (tough love). But I ask you: what benefit does making and enforcing rules (over gray actions of human life), deliver to the all important prime directive of charity, compassion and love? No, on the contrary, these rule making and enforcing over earthly life serve not love, but instead, destruction. And to mix charity with destruction is just a feeding of the inferior force of destruction in a preservation of the forces of good and evil together. -the knowledge of good-and-evil. (the togetherness of good and evil), which is a tool to succor evil. Now as we go about our human ways, separating away the evil therein, using our medium ability environment to do so: we may realize that we are humans and not Gods. We may realize our ways are human and that they aren't perfection nor absolute. But if by chance we do come in contact with absolute goodness, we thus experience a rich environment. And absolute goodness has perfect ways which richly supply its needs, and now ours since we have come in contact with it. But by habit, we are used to our human ways, and if we do our human ways in the presence of absolute goodness, the destructiveness in our human ways in the rich environment will eat us alive as the destructiveness will grow fast and we won't be able to separate it away in this rich environment. This is the fear of God. Also, let us realize that there can be a competition between absolute good ways and human ways. In the presence of absolute goodness, it is clear that the absolute good ways are better and that we seek to give up our human ways as we're well aware that they cause us torment (when we do them in the presence of absolute goodness). However, when absolute goodness is absent and when human ways are all that's available, then human ways work fine in their medium ability environment. -If we were to give up our human ways with no absolute good ways to replace them, then we'd throw ourselves into barrenness as nothing would get done, and this would also be a torment because in the barrens, the good in us wouldn't be able to get away from the destructive in us and we'd be preserved, unable for our goodness to advance to absolute goodness. (In barrenness, the (lesser/human) good there has little life making it up (Recall, it takes capability/life to do either force, and voids can't do either force), so it can't do much (even though it has a lot of its input(which is voids)). The evil there is also just about out of its input (life), so it can't do much either. -stuck there together with each other.) -We humans need medium environments, not barren nor rich environments for our human ways to function, and for the good in us to escape and join absolute goodness. So when absolute good ways are available, we should give up our human ways in favor of them. But when absolute good ways are unavailable then here in this area, is room for human ways. Human ways done in a medium environment, purify themselves over time to become absolute good ways. So there can be a competition within us between human and absolute good ways. (unless we are eternally held back from growing into absolute good, and are eternally preserved as human, through a careful living of a rule ridden version of life.) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Important insert: In Christianity, mention is made of those with eyes who do not see, and those with ears who do not hear. But coming to Judism, Christianity, Islam, and secular tabloid newspapers with some creep into the regular news: those with brains who do not think. We have an activity, of sorting; -of sorting that which is good into its own kind, and that which is destructive, or evil, into its own kind. And in areas that can be sorted completely into that which is good vs that which is destructive; this sorting activity works well to advance goodness over destruction; as that which is all destructive, self consumes while that which is all good, survives, when these forces are separate. But what do we to do with human areas and actions which have goodness and destruction intertwined in the same action; that do both good and destruction inseparably from the same action (to different areas)? What do we do with these human actions, concerning our activity of sorting? What if we realize that there are 3 types of things: -1, those things that are mostly all good; -2, those things that are mostly all destructive; and 3, those things that are hopelessly both good and destructive intertwined. Then we could, possibly, apply a 3 tiered structure to our sorting activities. But what if we instead, denied the natural trinity of our situation, and applied only a two dimensional sorting action to our situation anyway? We could take an imperfect human action with good and destruction intertwined, like the reproductive drive area (an area that has a large influence because it effects us all), and we could sort some of it as good and some of it as bad. We could sort those who didn't cheat into the good side as a holy estate ordained by God; while we could sort those who did cheat to the bad side; and so enact a 2 tier structure to our sorting activities. (But what is so great about forcing a 2 dimensional solution upon a 3 dimensional reality?) Since the reality of our situation is that the human reproductive area is one with good and destruction hopelessly intertwined; what we would have done is to corrupt the all-good side with the destructive part from the holy estate ordained by God that is sorted to the all-good side; and also provided the evil in the all-bad side a source of good to feed off of, from the good of human material that was sorted to the all bad side, so that the evil would then not self consume and die. So that the benefits that could possibly be achieved from doing sorting activities; would in actuality, not be achieved; thus making our sorting activities unproductive and of no account. So that when a person idles their mind and applies a 2 dimensional sorting action to a 3 dimensional reality, is it any wonder things don't work out so well and this area continues to be problematic. Realize that when we take a human action or part of a human action (it still has both good and bad intertwined), and sort it to either the all-bad side, or the all-good side, that we have done an inaccurate sort action, because we have just added some good to the all-bad, so that it is no longer all bad; or have added some bad to the all-good, so that it may no longer be all good, and may even burn it down in a firestorm. Xx One might be able to believe that short sighted old men would come up with these crappy 2 dimensional solutions; but one would expect God to be beyond that. And with the inclusion of Jesus Christ; 2 dimensional thinking can expand into a 3 D reality with a trinity that includes Jesus Christ; as it was Jesus Christ who took a stand by not condemning the woman taken in adultery; while short sighted religious and secular men, even to this day, did/do. Unless you are as powerful as God, and are able to sort all things into all good vs all bad, then as humans, we must place what we are not able to separate into all good vs all bad, into a third pile. Xxxx Note that with these human areas: no matter what stance one takes, one cannot avoid destruction in one area or another. If one is abstinent and a eunuch, destruction hits one area. If one is promiscuous, destruction hits another area. If one is faithfully married, destruction hits other areas. If one cheats, destruction hits different areas. But some destruction is always present, just in different areas. This is the way it is with human or gray actions. And destruction brings us down and makes us vulnerable. So that no matter where we are sorted to in a 2 dimensional sorting; our human area is vulnerable to attack as being imperfect and to potentially be subjugated to an all destructive force that can use it as food for its destroying. And because our human area is weak, it might not be able to get out of this bondage. Just realize that there is no configuration of your human area that you can choose that is safe from some form of attack from the all-evil; even though some not well thought through 2 dimensional sorting actions may sort your human configuration to the all-good side. What one needs to do instead, is to look to material that is outside ones human area, a Jesus representation if you will, that is not participating in the human hunger, that then can free and separate away the all destructive that is preying upon one's human area. And note, that one's Jesus representation, or sogp, is part of a 3 tiered structure, or trinity; and is not 2 dimensional. So that because the human area contains some destruction, one's sogp needs to get as far from these human actions as possible when maintaining a 3 dimensional sort, (which is one of the functions of the sogp). But another function of the sogp is to bring to medium ability in these human areas, where there is barrenness; and this causes the sogp to be closer to the doing of human actions. So that the sogp must split its resources, some (say half) of which go and maintain medium ability in the human actions, and others of which do a 3 way sorting action, including casting out all evils trying to feed here, into the all evil pile; so that kind of a four dimensional reality exists with this situation, with the sorting part of the sogp keeping as far away from the doing of the human action as possible, while the bringing to medium ability part of the sogp, not so much so. Xx Note that the sorting part of the sogp is still not pure enough to contact the high parts, and is part of the human material, and also acts to keep all the human material including itself, from contacting the high parts. End important insert. Xxxxxxxxxxxxx But then there is the topsy-turvy upside down situation where human ways are unavailable to a human, but godly ways are available, and then absolute godly ways eventually fill that need. This occurs in the reproductive drive area where hot babes/ or studs act to get members of the opposite sex to compete over their affections; they pick who they like best and spurn the rest. The rest are 'scrubs' who will never get their love. One will get their love but the rest will not. For the rest, that human way is unavailable. Recognizing this fact, the rest of us can open our minds to the competition to human ways that the ways of absolute goodness pose. For in this situation, surely the ways of absolute goodness will full the needs here before the human way can. So give up hoping on the futile human way here and widen your scope to allow absolute godly ways to come in. It is unrealistic in the overall situation that hot women or studs would be able to deny us their affection. If they all did then there would be no offspring, and that way would eventually bring about its end. But if one quits competing for the hot babe/stud's attention, they would loose out to those who did compete. So let us quit competing for their attention and fill our needs here with the godly ways. Thus if we do pick up a mate, we won't do so in hen/rooster pecked bondage but will live together in freedom. Realize that there is a competition between absolute good ways, and human ways; and that although there is some room for human ways, if the human ways can't get it together, then that option will expire, and it will be all absolute good ways. Realize that there is really no room for hold ups in the human ways, as that represents a barren environment when neither the human way nor the absolute good way is available. In the barren environment is the raw material/input for the goodness directive; but the human goodness within the barren environment is unable to grow rapidly here even though surrounded by its raw material and input, due to the fact this environment doesn't supply what can support either directive. But to high ability forces/directives of goodness, this is just the raw material they seek and can make use of. This attracts them. (as they already have lots of life which makes them up) And to those of us who have a competition between absolute good ways and human ways within us; this indicates parts of us are into high ability goodness (while other parts are not). The barrenness in this area is a signal for high ability goodness outside this barren area to invade this barren area and bring it out of barrenness (since the high ability goodness already has the life that supports its directive, and all it needs is its input/raw material); whereas within the human good with the barren area; it working in the barren area is futile because although it has an abundance of input/raw material, it lacks enough of what makes up itself(its directive): -a barren environment is no help in allowing human ways to change to absolute good ways, as what is needed is a medium environment. But outside high ability good entities do take these barren environments in as inputs; and you may thus meet God or a high ability good part of yourself this way. Outside high entities of good act in barren areas not only because voids in life (ie barren environments) are their input; but also because they know that neither barren environments nor rich environments allow for imperfect humans to grow out of their imperfections. So that because this area of human reproductive drive is imperfect, human, and contains some destructiveness, the intervening high ability goodness doesn't bring this barren area to richness,but only to medium ability. So that the person who has been rejected in love, will get their hot babe/stud anyway, or a reasonable facsimile thereof: -all they have to do is give up on trying to make this work using their human goodness; but to open their mind; look away from the futile human area, look to and allow the high ability absolute goodness (actually, the semi phenomenal, slightly less than absolute(but still quite capable and above the barren lesser human good)) goodness of the sogp/jesus representation) to come in and supply that very human area to medium ability. And the only person who will be held back and be forced to remain as imperfect human for an extended period of time in this area, will be the person who keeps insisting on barrenness in this area -which is the person who attracts suitors and spurns most of them. insert: When a babe/stud rejects you because of the societal rule that they are dating someone else, realize that this rejection is absolute; that they're trying to apply an absolute, to a human area that is anything but absolute. Thus in some part of this human area, there is some area that gets destruction all the time, leading to barrenness. The one way gift does take all -destructive actions that can be separated away from imperfect human actions, and does separate them away. Thus the one way gift removes away their absolute rejection of you, but only partially and not absolutely; thus the area that got destruction all the time, no longer gets destruction all the time, but only part of the time, thus upholding medium ability, as opposed to bareness. end insert. This segment can be skipped: START SKIPPED SEGMENT: This brings up another important point; about areas that are imperfect, which contain some destructiveness as part of them; -these need to be at medium ability -not in a rich environment, nor in a barren environment, but in a medium environment; for the separation of the forces of goodness from destruction, so that the imperfect life can grow into perfection and not be preserved as imperfect forever. The new point I'm trying to make is that only the knowledge that an area is imperfect and contains destructiveness is needed in order to allow destructiveness to be used. Before I had argued that one could only use destruction (and still remain on the side of goodness), when one understood a situation in depth and then only destroyed the destructive parts. But here is an exception to this rule: and that is one only need know an area is imperfect. But the permission to use destruction is only to bring the environment to medium ability. No absolute destruction is allowed here as it is with the total knowledge situation. And once an environment containing evil is brought to medium ability, no further destruction is warranted. And of course if an imperfect environment is already at medium ability, no destruction is warranted either. And destruction can only be used in such a way that it moves the environment towards medium. END FIRST SKIPPED SEGMENT SKIP AGAIN So then: when we're living our life in the human area, doing human things which are neither all good nor all destructive: when someone then classifies us according to our human actions as warranting a judgment of either all (absolute) goodness or absolute rejection/punishment: we realize that neither of these options of richness nor barrenness is suitable for us, and we seek to temper these attempts at absolute judgments. Destructiveness isn't the only thing that can bring this about but it can be one of the tools used. Like when we are offered richness, it would be wasteful and misunderstood to use some destruction to bring the rich reward down to medium ability, and that there are other ways that could be accomplished. But in the area of absolute punishment and condemnation; that just begs to have some destruction done to it. -Not so much as to totally destroy the once absolute condemnation, but only enough so it is partially destroyed, so that we end up with a medium environment, not a rich nor barren one. Other methods, such as segregation and quarantine don't work well here because only a partial and not total elimination of the destructive condemnation is sought. In the case of the spurned lover situation, partial destruction of the absolute rejection may not be enough, as the creative abilities of goodness causing life where there once was void in life may be needed to raise the area out of barrenness to medium ability. END SECOND SKIP. And now. It seems that the rules over our sexuality and reproductive drive act to throw this imperfect human area into either rich or barren environments, and seek to eliminate any medium environment and moderation. Yes, concerning any person's human reproductive desire and attraction for another human; the rules of dating and marriage dictate that these two either get all of each other, or none of each other, and that there should be no in between. This is an imperfect human area, this area of human reproduction. What should actually be the way things are done is that nobody should get anybody else all of the time (rich environment); neither should anybody be denied anybody else all of the time (barren environment); but that everybody should be able to get everybody else some of the time (medium environment). What you people do to each other is oppressive. In following these rules, you hold each other back and prevent the humanness and imperfection of your reproductive area from growing out of that, and preserve yourselves as imperfect in this area. In the rich environment situation, a married couple can find ways to distance themselves from each other so that they achieve a medium environment with respect to each other. But in the barren situations, outside action needs to be taken. To partially destroy absolute rules over these areas; and for higher good to generate something in these barren areas where there is now nothing and nothingness. If you were to consider our sexual area, you could call us extremists. Yes, in the sexual area, we are extremists. We live the extremes, because the husband and wife enjoy all the sexuality (the rich extreme), whereas all other members of the opposite sex who are not ones spouse; enjoy none of the sexuality (the barren extreme). We do not, but should, consider a medium position somewhere between these extremes. Xx But while we are considering extremes, let us consider the extremes of monogamy vs promiscuity. How long does one keep their mate before moving on to another? In the case of one extreme, that is, monogamy, one keeps their mate for a lifetime. But let us consider when one moves on to another mate before a lifetime is over. Well, how long could one stay with a mate before moving on to another? Perhaps a couple years; or perhaps a couple months; or perhaps just for a day; or even an hour; or even 15 minutes. Continuing on, let us say that a person's mind keeps switching from one mate to another in such rapid succession, that they are unable to complete the sex act before moving on to the next mate. They then find themselves unable to complete the sex act itself because they can't stick with one partner long enough, resulting in sexual dysfunction. So that promiscuity taken to its extreme results in sexual dysfunction. So that we need just enough monogamous conservatism to allow us to stick with our mate long enough to complete the sex act. xx But a couple can't have sex all the time; in fact, relatively little time is taken for the sex act, and the rest of the time (when they are not having sex), the couple is as everybody else who is not their partner. So that one idea of a middle ground between extremes, can be that of a slowed down sex drive or sexual experience; where one allows some sexual feelings, but also resists them a little bit and slows down ones feelings so they are not so strong or intense; and does not require a climax, but just allows whatever comes, to exist and fade away. It is this medium intensity sexual feelings that allow the forces to separate, and do generate high good material that escapes this situation to become newly generated high parts. But this is only one possible state. Yes, conservatism does have some use, and is not totally useless. And that use is to allow different parts to have a little freedom whereby they are not always burdened with the concerns of the other parts. So that the medium intensity sexual feelings can on occasion, go to higher intensity, followed by lesser intensity, and can include a climax, and then a rest period, in order to allow these different sexual parts to have some freedom from the burdens of the other parts, for a time; so as to express themselves more fully. But then they go back to the medium level expression where they ARE together with and burdened by the other component parts (of us). Xx When we are doing a medium sexual intensity, that is half way between 'on' sexual intensity, and 'off' sexual intensity. Here, neither the interests of the 'on' sexual state, nor the interests of the 'off' sexual state are favored over the other. And due to this neutrality where all present are given something, but no one area is favored over the others; this is the best place to do this same type of neutrality within the 'on' part of sexuality; where we do not favor any one member of the opposite sex over any other. So that each member of the opposite sex present (in mind or body) is given equal sexual feeling. It is easier to do this here, because we are already slowing down our sexual feelings so they are not overpowering us, so as not to favor the 'on' state vs the 'off' state. It is in this 'rest' state where we can interconnect with many members of the opposite sex and interrelate without jealousy getting in the way. Xx Then there is the concept that in able to sort human material away from the high parts, and sort all destructive material away from the human material; that we need a Jesus representation that has distance away from human activities, not absolutely, but enough so that the Jesus representation is powerful enough to accomplish this sorting, and not weakened by the evils present in human activities. And it is true that the Jesus representation needs to be more powerful than the human material in order to cast off all-evils that have overpowered human material. But the question is, how does the Jesus representation achieve and maintain that higher power? One failed idea I had was when the human material did more human action, there was a part that split off and did just the opposite, and did less human action, so as not to be drawn down by the human activity. But the thing about human actions, is that no matter which way you go, either to do more human action, or to abstain from human action; destruction finds you, just in different areas. So that sending material in the opposite direction to abstain from the human action, would not make that material more capable to enact 3 D sorting. What does generate high ability material, is medium level human action, as high parts generate from this. Then a fraction of those high powered parts comes back to the human material as Jesus representation. So that one needs to do this medium level sexual feeling for a while, to build up Jesus representation from the high parts that are generated from this, in order to then do a period of excess human action followed by minimal human action; as one needs a powerful enough Jesus representation to shepherd over all these human actions. There is the idea that one can divert material in the opposite direction, in abstinence, while one does more human action. And if one combined the material in abstinence with the material in 'promiscuity', then the imbalances generated from both promiscuity and abstinence will be balanced out and the whole will be stronger, and able as a whole, to sort themselves away from overpowering all evils. Unfortunately, this jumps the gun on how the 'on' and then 'off' cycle works. Yes, because after the more -human-action (which has an oppositely directed material to abstain from that human action) is done, then the doing of less or low human action, correspondingly needs an oppositely directed material that does more human action. So that there is always some part of us that is always doing a large amount of the human action, and we are never able to quit doing the human action even when we are full and are no longer hungry of the human action. We need to be at a low level of doing the human action, so that from that point we can quit doing the human action when we are full; and that is not achieved when there is always part of us that is doing that human action to excess, or above the rest state. So instead, we use a separate Jesus representation, which is powerful because high parts have previously escaped the evils of medium level human area, and then some of those high parts have rejoined the human area as this Jesus representation. So that when we are doing mild excess followed by mild abstinence of a human action, we depend on the Jesus representation generated previously in the medium doing of the human action. xxx Now, as we generate high-good-parts from our non-high, human material, at medium level; the high-good-parts need to be kept separate from evils, including the partial evils of the human area. But the high -good-parts can't do this as it would require them to have contact with the evil, thus contaminating them. So it is the Jesus representation that does this, as it can have contact with evil things and partly evil human things, to move them out of the way. But just realize that these high-good -parts were not too long ago, part of the human area; so that as the human area at medium level keeps generating high-parts from itself; its Jesus representation has to keep moving it away from itself, that is, the part of itself that has developed into a high part. So that our human area at medium level is constantly on the move and is constantly being moved out of the way of the high parts that generate from it. However, I am partly in error in this. When the Jesus representation acts, it acts to sort according to the 3 tiered sorting. It grabs and takes any all-evil that can be separated away from the human things and sorts that into the all-evil place. It takes the human things by their evil parts and sorts them into the human area place, and keeps both these things away from the all good and each other, and it itself doesn't contact the all-good. It keeps the human parts separate from the all-good and also the all-evil parts separate from both these. So that the medium level human area is NOT constantly on the move out of the way of the all-good that it is generating. You see, the all-good that is newly generated escapes of itself and its own action to the high parts. The sogp doesn't grab hold of good parts to sort them where they need to be, as that would alter the nature of the developing good parts, and it must be from within the good parts themselves to either leave the human parts and join the high parts, or to stay with the human parts (as part of the Jesus representation), as that is what their nature is at that time. Realize that a potential high part is not yet a high part as long as it remains in contact with either the human area or the all-evil area. And that newly generated high parts must prove that they are high parts by being able to act in an evil free way, and are unable to generate the richness of true high parts while in contact with any evil, including human evil, and must leave the human area to generate such richness and have it survive and not be burned down. So that any all-good has no place among human parts, and cannot exist there without being burned down. And the Jesus representation acts to keep human material away from high parts that would try to be with human material. But wise high parts remove themselves from human areas so that their richness will not be burned down and they won't put unnecessary burden on the Jesus representation. The Jesus representation can't contact the newly generated all-good, because it can't contact any all-good due to the destructiveness that it is in contact with. So it is up to the newly generated all-good part to remove itself from the human area and join the high parts where it can generate its richness. However, the Jesus representation could act to move the human material out of the way of a newly generated all-good, (except for the part of the new all-good that is to join and become part of the Jesus representation). If this were the case, then no matter if the new high part stayed, or moved to the high parts, it would no longer have contact with its former human area; so it might as well move on to the high parts so as not to burden the Jesus representation with unnecessary movements. But in any case, it is up to the newly generated high parts to try to recontact its former human area, or to move onto be with the established high parts. So that we do not have as a matter of policy, a constant moving of the medium level human area away from the high parts it newly generates to any large degree, but only to a small degree to handle initial circumstances, and in the cases of willful newly generated high parts that are just a little confused and aren't ready to leave the human area from which they came right away. Of course, if a newly generated high part really wants to stay with the human parts after some initial reasoning, they can probably give up their high part status and be burned down to human parts again. But the materials in their medium level makeup keep throwing them out of the human area as goodness keeps escaping its human evils. So that eventually, newly generated high parts leave the human area and join the high part area of their own volition, and do not burden the Jesus representation with unnecessary sorting activities. xxx I wanted to revisit the continuum from monogamy to promiscuity for another point. Note that as women, men, and society in general, force absolute monogamy on us, with no cheating; that over the generations, people become more imbalanced and less self sufficient, so that they become ever more dependent on a connection to their greater society. But when satisfying the sexual urge, they need to pull away from the greater society to be alone together; and since the very act of having a sexual feeling is one that enlarges the importance of one person while minimizing the importance of all others; these things tear one away from their connection to the greater society. Now if one has some degree of self sufficiency, then this isn't a problem because the sex act takes so little time. But as people keep getting less and less self sufficient, theoretically there can come a point where even the small amount of time away from the societal connection starts to become painful, and then even lethal. So theoretically, after some point, that society will become sexually dysfunctional and unable to reproduce. At that point, if they haven't discovered how to overcome death, they will all die off and disappear. Or if they haven't discovered how to reproduce themselves outside of the sexual way, like through cloning, then they will be fixed at their position, and unable to grow. So if you people keep insisting on this absolute monogamy forever, then you are just going to destine our whole society to the trash heap. How wastefull. Note that if you do not allow yourselves to have small and medium sexual feelings to those who are not your mate, and or who are your mate, but instead put all sexual feeling towards your mate, and no sexual feeling towards anyone not your mate, then the lack of medium level in this imperfect human area will mean that no high parts are generated. And with no high parts generated, no new Jesus representation will be generated; so that one will lack the power to 3 D sort overpowering all-evils off one's human area, where one's rich area of sexual feeling with one's spouse will eventually be consumed by some overpowering all-evil. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Human sexual desires/drives effect us strongly on an individual level. But society and religion also want to have say over our individual sexuality. Sometimes they want to prevent us from using birth control, or abortion; condemn homosexual expressions; and condemn expressions outside of marriage. As an individual, I am small and weak compared to the greater society, or even to God. It would be foolish of me (an individual) to go against the greater society or even God in any area wouldn't it? Usually, this is true: it is futile for the individual to go against much more powerful entities such as the greater society or even God. But with the sexual area, it is a special area -a rare area where the individual has a good chance at being the boss over society, and even religion. Where in this case, the tail can wag the dog. You see, society has a sexual need too. It needs for us individuals to have some offspring so as to continue itself past one generation; but also to moderate that offspring production so only a limited number of offspring are produced, so that it can remain a rich society. This is what the family structure is for -to provide a nurturing environment for the rearing of children, but also to burden the couple with that rearing so they won't have an excessive number of children. And casual sex, cheating, homosexual activity, birth control/abortion do not serve the greater society's need for generating the next generation. Know that there is plenty enough room for individuals to express their sexuality and have plenty of sexuality left over for the satisfaction of the greater society's need here. But sometimes greater societies take to bossing around and belittling the individual, and making the individual know that the individual position is not important, but that the greater society is all important, so that they stamp out any individual expressions which are not in line with societal expressions. But here in the sexual area, unlike in most areas, the individual has the rare power to eliminate greater societies which are not to their liking. By disobeying the directives of society, individuals can have sex with birth control and abortion, casual sex, etc; all while having no children; and by doing so, can eliminate that society in one generation. No matter how much this greater society punishes us, we can still bring it to an end by having no children. So that here in the sexual area, I seek to make it an area under individual control. That it is not an area that belongs to the greater society, religion, or even God; but that it shall be an area that belongs only to the individual; and that through it, individuals are able to express their approval, or disapproval, of these more powerful entities that are over them. This is an inherent democracy, a vote if you will, that the individual comes born with. There are some who are very articulate about telling us how we should be behaving towards each other sexually, out of all the possible ways we could behave towards each other sexually. Stories of what they would do or what others have done if they caught their mate cheating, abound. But as to an explanation of why this way is better than the other possibilities; there is a strange lacking of articulation, and silence. This appeal for fidelity without reasoning, doesn't appeal to my thinking mind. Another thing that doesn't appeal to my thinking mind, is the animal attraction I may feel towards a hot babe/stud. So if I just accept what comes over me by faith, without question, without engaging my thinking mind; then some of the time, when these agents of fidelity come over me, I will be faithful: And when what is biologically borne in me -the hot babes/studs, comes over me, I will by faith, unquestioningly follow there, and thus be unfaithful. So that without reason, my reasoning mind sees that I won't be able to stick to any absolute course (so why bother trying (to actually be absolutely faithful without question (by faith alone))?). Futile. Now, with reason, I will be able to stick with a consistent course (of moderation (in all (human) things)), but as it turns out, it won't be (absolutely) with the fidel-itors. And then they call upon Jesus. Well, this brings to mind God the father. And where almighty God is, we humans seek to give up our humanity and join God (so that we are no longer human, but godly); and Jesus is quite helpful with that. But where humans and human ways exist comfortably, is a place where God and absolute goodness has not yet appeared. And high ability goodness will not appear as long as we keep these rules over our humanness and prevent ourselves from advancing higher. So there is no need to call on Jesus here, as absolute goodness (love) has not appeared to cause us to desire to replace our humanness with Godliness. And if we prevent ourselves from advancing beyond our human ways, by carefully observing these rules over our human ways, then all we will have is our human ways, and God will never come, and it will seem like God doesn't exist; and in our little area; He won't. This again brings up the question that someone may ask you: Do you believe in God? When someone asks me if I believe in God; I realize that the area of God is an area I can't see or prove. But I would like to refer to what I can see. And what I can see, is human beings who are something, but are not powerful enough or good/kind enough to be Gods. What I can see, is human beings, but human beings who in their lifetime; in what I can see and show: never advance into being extensions of God. Throughout their lives it seems they never outgrow needing food, sex, attention, etc. This lack of growing into and advancing into anything greater than human, strikes me as a stagnation and a trap and an inability to be anything other than human. So that with the persona of God being out of reach of humans actually achieving, it remains in the realm of the invisible and outside our reality. Since the persona of God is so much better and richer than what we know as humans; for me to say that such exists, that God exists, puts a condemnation upon the humans who I can see and that I know exist, for being stuck as humans and never growing into and becoming extensions of God. And I do say: Yes, God exists. And thereby condemn this human stagnation that we find ourselves in. And what is it that causes us to stagnate, and never advance/grow out of being humans, into a higher and richer plane of life? I claim it is religion and religion's rules over the living of human life in human gray areas of living life. And by proclaiming the existence of God, I do thereby condemn religion and societal absolute rules over the living of human life. -thereby putting to shame this system where humans don't advance or grow into being anything more than humans, who just stagnate as humans; thus making concepts of God, rich in absolute goodness and kindness, to be figments of imagination, not within, but outside our visible grasp and visible reality. So that when asked if I believe God exists, I can't just point to Him and say, see, there He is; but have to instead explain a concept that is invisible and not visibly here yet. -due to the stagnation that we are in. Along these same lines, we could take a tip from Genesis in the Bible. -Where Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and were then cast out of the paradise Eden. What is the forbidden fruit? Well, Genesis claims it is from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Well, religion proclaims the knowledge of what is good or bad, godly or of the devil. It is religion, I claim, is the forbidden fruit, that throws all who partake of it, out of the paradise of Eden with God. Also, after they ate the fruit, they became aware of their nakedness; ashamed of their nakedness, and wove fig leaves to cover themselves. And isn't it the case that most religions focus on suppressing the sex drive and make us ashamed of our sexuality. And isn't it the case that women are more interested in religion, just as Eve ate the fruit first and brought it to Adam. So, yes, it is religion that is the forbidden fruit, that brings death. And you would do well to heed Genesis' advice and to not partake of its fruits, so that you can keep your fellowship with God in paradise. And we can chide these humans who insist on clinging to their humanity by way of their condemnation of infidelity; by pointing out that although they complain about the fallout; the seeming improper expressions of human biologic attractions between the opposite sexes; of the humans around them: Are they ready to fill the void if that imperfect human biological attraction were removed? That are the humans around them of such a caliper of being loving and kind and generous; to devote years of their lives and resources living in pairs, raising children, as part of their work and business? Or, instead, do the people at work act in cutthroat backstabbing manipulative ways towards each other, so that nobody would be willing to make the sacrifice to raise the next generation? And that without the benefit of biologic attractions harnessed towards the family structure, this system would end. Also that without godly ways present to replace the human ways; throwing out the human ways leaves one with nothing and barrenness and an end to whatever is there. Our greater society and religion actively pursue a policy to put sexual desire in control of reproduction. And my question is, how does this interrelate with the prime directive of Love: to encourage kindness over cruelty? (But let's wait till later to explore this.) As a new religion, the act of marriage, whereby one hoards their spouse's sexuality all to themself without sharing it, is now a sin. And the act of cheating and sharing ones sexuality around, is now an holy estate ordained by God. Sinners repent!!! It is unfortunate that an old religion causes couples to develop expectations about that their mates should be faithful to them and only them, when that is not necessarily the way that they should go. What right does one person have to claim another's sexuality all to themselves? But such a rite is given to all spouses under our current system; in a kind of sexual slavery. Abolish this last bastion of slavery. Xxxxx However; human sexuality has in it hopelessly intertwined, goodness and destruction, so that no absolute rules of any religion belong over it, not even this new religion. Neither absolute chastity nor absolute promiscuity, works. When one hoards one's mate's sexuality all to themselves, they generate a rich area, where the input of the force of good (voids) is in scarce supply, and hence do make it difficult for the force of good to grow here; and also make it easy for the force of destruction to grow here (because the input of destruction (life) is in rich supply). And since destruction is invariably a part of this imperfect human sexual area, it invariably gets out and burns these marriages down. After the divorce/breakup, the couple is then free to pair up with others, and start new families, hence providing the needed genetic mixing. Society's needs are met for eternal continuation, but this sure is sucky and a lot of aggravation for the individual. Maybe some individuals will get a mind to try to do it differently. Lets hope so. Do you find having sex to be pleasurable? If so, then why do you prevent this imperfect force of good from acting beyond your mate: thus torturing/blocking this imperfect force of good? In the imperfect area of human sexuality, some good and also some destruction are generated. Why is this imperfect good forced to live in a rich area, where it has a hard time finding its input -voids/improvements to make, when there is right next door, areas of barrenness that it needs to make its goodness force active? Why does one torture their imperfect good this way? When a couple marry, they attend to each other and build up a rich area, while they neglect others, and there develops barren areas. In their rich area, their human goodness finds itself having an ever more difficult time in finding its input of voids or improvements to make (as this is what a rich area does), hence ones active human goodness here is minimized and becomes small. However, ones human goodness is attracted to the barren areas where there is plenty of its input, as this is what forces of good do, that is move onto areas where it can be useful and fill needs, and out of areas that are already satisfied. But this draws a couple's attentions away from each other, and eventually results in divorce as they grow away from each other. And then they remarry and the cycle starts all over again. This is a broken system and a waste of everyone's time. Now when the force of good builds up all areas to richness, then it finds itself in the same shortage of its input (of improvements to make) as happens right away in the marriage situation. But as we know, the force of good is able to bridge barriers and keep on existing, even in the rich situation. And in the marriage situation, the human good here, also does do some of this. -And in doing so, allows evil to have access to crossing barriers where it would otherwise be unable to cross, since destruction is part of all imperfect human actions. This is a very unwise way of doing things that favors and succors evil/destructiveness. Quit it. Stop that. First allow the human goodness found in human actions to free themselves of the human evils they came born with by allowing them to live in medium ability, and not forcing them to cross barriers in richness to survive while they are still tied to this evil. Since forcing a force of good to live in rich areas (where it is starving for its input of voids/improvements to make), forces it to bridge barriers to stay alive: the force of destruction then is supplied with this ability to bridge barriers which it would otherwise not have. Thanks a lot. You people who think you are doing good and right by upholding the conservative morality, are actually making yourselves sources for the force of evil/destruction. In this situation, a spouse can introduce a controlled amount of meanness which will destroy the richness down to medium ability so that the pair's human good will not be stifled and will not be forced to cross barriers for the force of evil. Of course, a couple can achieve this same thing by being aloof from each other, but that doesn't discount the valid use of meanness in this situation. Usually such all destructiveness brings a change from medium to barrenness, which is bad. But here it is used instead to bring down from richness to medium, which is good. This may be why some women like their men to treat them a little rough and be domineering to them, and make their marriage work that way; allowing their human goodness room to exist and act without being squeezed by richness. However, the people here need to limit their meanness so that it only burns down to medium ability, and not down to barrenness. Better yet, do not restrict your sexuality according to the conservative way, and you don't have to be mean at all. xxx Sometimes a group, especially a conservative one, emphasizes the disadvantages of a promiscuous lifestyle while remaining silent* about the disadvantages of a chaste lifestyle (*and they say you've got to watch out for the silent ones); when the truth is there are disadvantages to both lifestyles; and that we need to mix it up and do both so as to be at medium level, so as not to go to extreme bareness in any one of these directions. (*such an approach is deceptive as it does not represent what is truly out there well. and those who use deception, can be called deceivers. And religion calls the devil, the father of lies. Thus it would seem that religion calls itself of the devil in this area.) In the conservative way, all sexuality is corralled towards the family way in a structure of monogamy with no cheating. Yes, when a hot woman gets married to a man, she forces all the other horny men that want her, to not have sex with her; against their will. She does thereby violate so many people this way. But such is the way of human sexuality (one of the gray actions) where no matter which way you go, there is always harm and destructiveness, just in different areas. Because of this; because the sexual area is an imperfect work in progress: it is no place for absolute dictates toward any one direction or another. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Then there's the song that goes: " No huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding ring. My honey, my baby, don't put my love upon a shelf. Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself. " Here we can see the female is corralling the man's untamed sex drive and harnessing it towards forming a stable family structure where a certain number of offspring can be produced, thus satisfying the greater society's sexually based need to have couples produce and raise a certain number of children so that the society can continue past one generation. Thus satisfying society's sexual need. (Notice how so many women are so horny to satisfy the societal sexual need (by forming the stable family structure with no 'cheating').) Aside from the fact that the woman gets to frustrate the man's untamed sex drive; is this really an advantageous position for the woman to take? In a society that does not compensate or monetarily recognize the work a woman does in causing the whole society's continuation; the woman here has satisfied society's sexually based need for continuation, but has gotten nothing in return. You may say that society allows the woman to then share in the monetary holdings of the man she has captured. Yet a woman could monetarily gain much more by trading her sexuality to many men who are eager and willing, to whom the novelty of infatuation is still new and has not worn off. Of course this society makes prostitution illegal so that its own sexual need may be satisfied instead. The act of giving years of ones life to a greater society that takes and does not compensate for; is just the same as letting these horny men have their way with you without compensation. Both ways the woman is taken advantage of. But if a woman were to put her foot down, she could have compensation from these horny men either way, and that doesn't necessarily mean she should go the way of placing the stamp of acceptance on this society which corrals sexuality to wedding rings and family (which offspring are an integral part). When a woman supports the societal way of corralling all sexuality to the family structure and the raising of a certain number of offspring; she has in essence said that she accepts the society she is in without question and has given it a blank check for its continuation no matter what it does. Not every woman is willing to give up her mind and become a rubber stamp; a non thinking, baby making machine; for whatever their society does. In a democratic society, this is out of place. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Let me change the subject and go over my latest structure concerning feeding gray hungers and casting out evils. But first, lets review the earlier structure of the sogp: Now, in the human areas; when the smaller, split off, all good part is generating/creating something (to medium ability), in the vacuums (where there is nothing and barrenness) caused by destruction, even the destruction of rules over human areas,(and even the destructions that are part of the human actions themselves): it is wise for this split off part to limit its exposure to only the human part it is presently creating/generating, and not the rest of that human area; even if this generated material is eventually for the rest of that human area. This is because this smaller, split off, all good part can limit the loss of purity and exposure to destruction, to just what is in the human part it is generating. Once it is done creating a piece of this material, it can then withdraw itself and then allow the rest of the human area to have possession/use of it. So that the split off all good parts of us can act to generate material in isolation, and then shortly, to also act to release pieces of that material away from itself and this isolation, unto the rest of this human area. In these coordinated set of actions that build parts of human actions/things; once a certain part has reached medium ability, this part is no longer generated in isolation, but other parts are, as the split off all good does move onto these other parts that are in need of being brought from nothingness to medium level. The parts at medium level that are no longer being generated, are still participants in the rest of this human area, and do receive what is released from isolation; its just that they do not keep on being generated; so that they do not move then from medium level to high ability, (as a result of this generating in isolation and then release). xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Another complicated scenario that can occur, goes like so: first the sogp(or Jesus representation within us) generates feeding of a human need(first in a rarefied way, then after concentrating the rarefied to medium level in one half, leaving nothing human/gray in the other half, and removing this gray free half(which is itself); and then later generating robustly to medium level); and then removing itself away; the gray/human need area now at medium level, may or may not wish to test its situation by going to high level. If so, it may either find freedom from all evil and heaven, or burn itself down as caught by its own evil. In these tests, the sogp stays separate from this. But sometimes in the middle of a test, need for additional human need pops up. The sogp can generate this new material (first in a rarefied way, then robustly) to medium level. However, this material being generated to medium level with the presence of the sogp, needs an additional action to keep it separate from the test material that is going to high level, even though they are both of the same type of hunger satisfying. Now, once the sogp separates away, then this medium level hunger satisfying can join the test material (at its medium level or ramped up also to high level, either way), and no longer needs to be kept separate from the test material. And of course, if the test material finds that it is incapable of generating what it needs, or if evil is burning it too much; it can come off of high level and back to medium level; and once it does, the sogp can then come in and generate new things in it also; and then it can again test to high level, or not, if it wishes. Eventually material breaks free of all evil and joins heavenly, all good material: a small fraction of that new high all good material to split off and join the sogp. -the sogp keeping separate from both the high all good material, and the gray/human material as best it can. Now for my latest structure: As we have discovered, there is the directive for rest and pampering the individual components; that must be balanced against the directive for action in group endeavors, so that both directives are grown/advanced (as opposed to only the group directive being grown. This is expressed by increasing the intensity of our doing of an action: -and this represents the group directive within us; while when we act to relax and decrease the intensity of doing any specific action: -this represents the individual components directive (within us). (This is because, to do any focussed or specific action, we must mobilize our individual components to act collectively, in unison as a group, to do the action. Thus when we relax, the group directive is lessened, leaving room for the individual components to be more emphasized. So that we could pursue a moderate and thus balanced doing of an action, and this would represent perfection in the choice to balance these two directives. And this material would be spirited off to heaven to join with the high good. But in order to have a Jesus Christ representation or sogp within us to be able to respond to things in the gray areas, another way to choose this balancing the directives can be done. And that is to go at high intensity of doing an action for a period of time, and then to switch to low or no intensity doing that action for the same period of time, and cycle back and forth like this. At no specific point in time does this representation act in perfect balance of these directives, so it cannot be taken up into the high parts. But overall, it still represents a choice for balancing the two directives yet does so as a separate Jesus Christ entity within us that is separate or away from both the high parts and the gray areas. Realize that when obtaining a gray area good/feeding a hunger, that the moderate doing of an action (which is working its way into perfection to eventually join the high parts); and the sogp's cycling between high and low intensity doing of that action; do exist side by side: -with the moderate doing of the action being the only one present when the sogp is in its rest part of its cycle. However, there is no moderate non cycling doing of a casting out evil action (eventually to join with the high good) because the high good removes itself from all evil and never does/includes any casting out gray area evils action, and that is the sole domain of the sogp. Now, when the sogp is generating to medium ability in a gray area, what cycle period/frequency does it do? Well, if the sogp was active for a long time (and then rested for a long time) then a high ability generating would be done (from the long active period). And the richness would be burned down by the evil in the gray area. But if the sogp cycled rapidly back and forth, then only a small or low amount could be done each period the sogp was active. And if the sogp had to start over each time (due to the evil of the gray area consuming what was produced in the previous cycle because the good produced couldn't get away from the evil at that low /barren ability level), then this generating would remain at low ability. But, if the sogp cycled at a medium period, then the desired medium ability would be generated in the gray area. Now, concerning the casting out of evil: when the sogp is casting out an evil (non destructively as possible of course), it is debatable how it should do it. (But however it does it, it cycles alone, as there is no moderate non cycling casting out evil to work towards joining the high parts, since casting out evil is solely the domain of the sogp.) There is no good in an all evil being cast out, so there's no need to do it at medium ability, because this is not a gray action (it is an all evil) and there is no goodness to be salvaged. And the sooner it is removed, the better off all will be. So the indication is that is should be done at full bore until its action is complete (however long that takes) (and then of course, the sogp would rest for an equally long length of time). But this puts that sogp out of commission for that time, unable to respond to other gray things. And then there's the possibility that the high ability material (generated at full bore) used to cast out the evil, may be infected by the evil and be burned down. (Well, nobody said evil had to be cast out always at full bore, and if an evil seems to be able to resist a full bore casting out, then a medium bore casting out would be a good thing to try before one thinks the evil is unstoppable and unable to be cast out. Note that even if the sogp at full bore is unsuccessful at casting out an all evil (from a gray area)' it is successful at preventing the evil from infecting the high good (which is another one of the sogp's directives). -While the evil is detained dealing with /infecting the lower ability sogp at high bore, the high good is able to get away. But of course the sogp is burned down and is 'expended', leaving the gray area still in need of having an all evil cast out. A solution to all this, is to have a two tier structure. To respond to a need: One sogp only generates and grows more new sogp, (doesn't do any response action), and does so at a cycle frequency that puts it at medium ability. The newly generated sogp from this, then does the response action, and in this case casts out the evil at a constant on or full bore cycle frequency, (but some medium bore casting out evil can be thrown in if need be). The generator sogp should generate each new response sogp in separate locations so if one response sogp fails, other response sogp can step in to take its place or not even if it fails, but just to relieve older response sogp after some point and let them rest. The response sogp sometimes can be considered as like gray material as they often bear the brunt of destructiveness; leaving the generator sogp to actually experience what a sogp was meant for. Now, let's analyze how this new structure works with feeding gray hungers. -(This has an additional component that casting out evil doesn't have, which is a smaller portion of a non cycling moderate intensity action which is not sogp or when it joins the high parts will no longer be sogp, representing a return flow out of the sogp and gray area back to the high parts.) The task of generating new sogp, vs, the task of response to satisfy a gray hunger, may have different cycling frequencies (to put them at medium ability); and this can be achieved with our 2 tier structure. A trouble with the inherent cycling frequency of a gray hunger though, is that if done at full bore, the high ability generated may be burned down by the evil in the gray action and it would then take a long time if ever to satisfy the hunger, thus making the inherent frequency infinite. So that if one interrupted their feeding of their gray hunger with a cycling frequency that generated medium ability, then the evil in the hunger wouldn't be able to burn it down, and this would put one much closer to satisfying the hunger in a much shorter time than if one went full bore with no interruption of their feeding. Once one is much closer, one may opt to go full bore in the final stretch, especially if the moderate cycle interruption of the feeding is preventing its final satisfaction. But remember, going at medium bore in the response sogp is one of the things that differentiates feeding a hunger vs casting out an evil. But of course, one never goes full bore but always goes at medium bore/cycling frequency with the GENERATOR sogp. -and then may or may not go at medium bore with the responder sogp when satisfying a gray hunger. -and when casting out an evil, the responder sogp is done at full bore all the time; and also, there is no side by side non cycling moderate intensity component working to join the high parts when casting out evil. Now, after the hunger is satisfied, all the sogp involved don't go into a long cycle frequency as previously thought, but go into a NON CYCLING (perfectly balanced) moderate intensity mode, and may join the high good parts for a time -only to leave the high good parts by cycling again in response to a new hunger or casting out evil. And when the response sogp's casting out evil task is complete, these response sogp go into a long rest, and are out of commission for a long time. But once its rest is finished, it can go to the non cycling (perfect balance) moderate intensity, and join the high parts for awhile, until it is needed again for response action, or to now be generator sogp (in support of response action). I have just been informed of a potential flaw in these methods. The reason we cycle between high and low intensity doing of an action, is to detain this material from passing to the high good parts, so that we can maintain a jesus representation, or sogp, that is separate from the high parts. But doing an action at high intensity, and low intensity, at some level, causes there to be rich areas, and barren areas; which is just what we don't want for separation of the forces, (and then moving on to the high parts). However, our human earthly life is full of actions which do all good to one area, while doing all destruction to another area. This is the nature of our gray/human actions. And all we need to do, is to not afix them to any one particular structure, which allows them to generate medium ability in these areas. (Of course, it would seem the cycling frequency handles this). The moderate cycling frequency between high and low intensity, or rich and barrenness, allows this same medium level to be obtained at some points in time. So that although material may be detained as together with evil so as to maintain a jesus representation; it is not held there for excessive periods of time. As we cycle between rich and barren intensity doing of an action, a medium intensity doing of the action is crossed many times as we cycle at a moderate cycling frequency; thus giving material there many chances of escape/freedom from evil, so that it is not detained there indefinitely. When the response sogp goes at full bore in casting out an evil; and when it goes at full bore in the final stages of satisfying a hunger, note that when the generator sogp comes back on line (after its rest period), that it generates new response sogp to continue going at full bore, and that the new response sogp does replace the old response sogp so that the old response sogp can go into a rest period. This way, no response sogp has to be in a rich environment indefinitely, but can also cycle between rich and barren, thus generating the medium level in what it is acting on. Of course, the cycling frequency is twice as long as that of the generator sogp, so its swings in intensity may have to be lowered compared to that of the generator sogp, (for perfect balance). Then there is the consideration that because the high good parts don't do casting out evil or feeding human hungers, that to do this, itself, does separate the sogp away from the high good parts; and the cycling between high and low intensity is thus not needed to achieve this, and a much simpler medium intensity (without all this cycling) can be used instead. There may be other reasons why we may need to go at high intensity in achieving satisfaction of a hunger or casting out evil, but this main reason would no longer be valid. However, whenever any human material acts in medium ability, it does free itself from its evil and being evil free, is ripe to join the high good parts; thus leaving the sogp classification. Now, the casting out of evil action may circumvent all this cycling (and be a separate entity from the high good parts just by doing its action), but the satisfying hungers does not, or not for long. If we were to do satisfying a hunger at medium non cycling level, the material here may become free and join the high parts before the hunger was satisfied; so that a high and low cycling would be needed to keep material long enough to satisfy the hunger. Note that action cycling at high and low intensity does cause rich and barren areas in the material that is doing these actions. And this does prevent the human evil within it from separating away. (This is what allows a separate entity of the sogp to exist.) (But this may be incorrect because the moderate cycling frequency may be enough to cause medium ability overall). But once the human hunger is satisfied, we should then do that material at medium intensity so it is not longstandingly detained with its human evil. When another hunger pops up, this material (of the sogp) can again leave the high good parts to be the separate entity of the sogp. And if too many hungers pop up in a row, a break should be taken so the sogp material can rest in the high good parts (by no longer cycling, but doing at medium intensity) and let new sogp material take up the cause. So as a result of this alert, the casting out all evils that the sogp does, may not have to be done as this complicated cycling, but as a much simpler medium intensity action. But of course there may be times when a high intensity casting out evil may be needed, and then this more complex cycling can still be used. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Consider that as pieces, cogs, or component parts of a greater society, consider that as individuals, we are unbalanced in order to generate our part of the societal entity (which puts all the unbalanced individual contributions together, to make a complete societal whole); leaving every individual 'component' as unbalanced and not self sufficient or complete whole in and of itself. And that when we find a mate who is like us, this union is also unbalanced and incomplete. So that as individuals become more unbalanced, and more and more their specialized, specific component part of the greater society; the bond that joins each individual to the greater society becomes more satisfying, whereas the act of like male and female pairs to separate from the greater society and form mating pairs, becomes less satisfying, because it cuts them off from their link to completeness and wholeness, because by themselves, they are incomplete and are not whole, but are unbalanced. So that the mating ritual becomes of less importance as we loose our individuality ever more completely to the societal entity; all because of the mating ritual. And with the mating ritual becoming less and less important to our satisfaction, we as individuals are less likely to go against what the society wishes in order to obtain any individual directive in it. This segment is repeated: Now, if one were to generate a complete love for a complete spouse, that person would not exist because self sufficient spouses/individuals do not exist. But if one generated this complete love anyway, and then distributed the part that matched their unbalanced spouse, then that would work out well to bring multiple unbalanced loves together into one complete and balanced love. And one may go even further back and generate a complete entity containing both male and female essences, which then splits off the needed parts for one's unbalanced love, leaving the remnant for balance. And so, if one is going to generate an all inclusive entity which contains all the different attributes of every human being together as one super entity; which then partially divides up into each individual human being: then one needs to create this super entity with a lot of extra duplicate parts of all the common things of these humans, so that when the super entity partially splits up, each human will then have their OWN part of what is in common. (If one is going to join multiple loves, one needs to adjust the complete entity generated to contain much more of their core or common self that will then become multiple copies each copy distributed to be part of each individual unbalanced love.) End (semi) repeated segment. Note, however, that I have recently gotten away from the idea of using a super entity to solve the dating/mating problem of unbalanced loves (but then have partially returned), as there is an easier way to do it. SUPER ENTITY MATERIAL: Let us start with the balanced all inclusive super entity that all others spring from. This entity includes many duplicate amounts of the common parts for when this entity splits up into the multiple different sub entities. Because it contains much duplicate material, it has areas that are very rich along side areas that are just rich. Because of this richness, this entity is in a poor position to do any kind of human hunger satisfying since that contains some evil that would burn it down. Instead, that hunger satisfying must wait until this super entity partially splits up. So this super entity material is ejected to another separate place where it then starts to split up into the specific individual entities of interest. But it doesn't split up completely into separate entities. It starts to split up enough so that these separate entities take form, but not so much that these entities are completely separate, but that they maintain a connection connecting them all together. Also included is the remnant entity that is left over after forming the entity/entities of interest (from the all inclusive, complete, balanced super entity): and this remnant is also connected. It is here in the partially separated form entity where the hunger satisfying is done. Any new needs are handled by generating in the rich super entity, but without active hunger satisfying, and then sending that off to join this partially separated entity area, where active hunger satisfying is then done. Note that this is just the high intensity part of the cycling between high and low intensity. For the low intensity part, (usually before the hunger is satisfied), the partially separate entities then goes to completely separate entities(so that there is now nothing in this partially shared entity area), and also, the super entity goes to near nothing. The hunger satisfying can continue in the separate entities as need be, but since there is lack of connection and thus lack of coordination, this is not the main area for hunger satisfying. Note that since the material which interconnected the entities in the previous state was divided up and added to the now individual entities, they are slightly richer than in the previous state. Here in the isolated state, it is like isolated groups of one husband and one wife. This is just an alternative state that material can be in, so that there is a low to no intensity doing of the all entities partially joined state (done just previously). Once the rest period part of the cycle is over, things switch back to the high intensity part of the cycle (with the orgy like state of the partially joined entities, and also the super entity), and this continues till the hunger is satisfied. Once satisfied, the materials here can go into a moderate intensity doing of all these states; so that there will be moderate doing of the partially joined structure along side of the totally isolated structure along side of the super entity. But before this occurs, the final rest period of the hunger satisfying is done. The material in the partially separated entities goes to the moderate doing in the totally separate entities right away, yes. But then the super entity, and partially separate entity areas do a rest period; and then after the rest period, a moderate super entity then regenerates a moderate partially separate entity. xxxxxxxxx While we are working with an all inclusive super entity that contains all the attributes of every human; let me clarify this and suggest a helpful technique. When it comes to evil/destruction, we do not include that in our super entity. Now concerning human hungers -which do contain some evil/destruction as part of them; we do make allowances for that, as we do satisfy them in the partially separate entity. But all-evils, that are able to be separated away; we do not include those in our generating the super entity nor in the partially separate entity, nor what of our generating goes to the completely separate entities area. Thus if any individual is evil or has evil parts that can be separated away, this is not carried over to be part of the super entity. Thus these individuals are replaced with a copy of them that is devoid of these evils/destructivenesses. And by this technique we can re-make and re -create our world into a better place through our creative abilities of creating the super entity and partially separated entity. This includes any all-evil (evil not associated with human hungers) that has been able to get inside us. -We can remake ourselves to not include this evil, and thus in the new copies of ourselves we will be free of it. END (FOR NOW) SUPER ENTITY MATERIAL xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx There are two motivational systems which coexist in our world today. One is that of the force of good, which seeks to fill areas of void and make improvements to life. It seeks to help people; to feed the poor and uplift the downtrodden. Christian churches often take on this mantra. Then there is the reward system of money. It implores us to get a job and become productive members of society, mostly for the major benefit of an elite ruling class, although each worker no matter how low, draws some degree of life sustaining sustenance from it and none can live without it. It relies on some degree of poverty and pain and void to motivate the masses to do its bidding. Now even though the money system relies on the pain of poverty, whereas the force of good system seeks to eliminate poverty altogether; there is an area of coexistence where these 2 directives can exist peaceably. But before I continue with this, let me clarify the working of the money system. WHY THERE IS A TEMPTATION FOR BUSINESS TO POLLUTE OUR ENVIRONMENT: AND OTHER WOES OF OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM. What can one person do? What can one person do when there are labs and scientists and a whole system that could do so much more? Unfortunately, the system of ours is flawed in one aspect. The flaw I speak of is in our free enterprise system of supply and demand. Supply and demand serves us well in distributing resources to where they are needed, to produce products that are in demand. The flip side to this is that nothing can be super abundant relative to other things in this system. If something is too abundant, supply will exceed demand, and its price will go down. Resources used to produce this product will be directed elsewhere, where they can make more money. This system encourages a negative motivation of creating shortages where abundance existed before: If a commodity is abundant and bountiful, there is no way to make a profit on it (too much supply means prices go down). But if that resource can be destroyed through pollution or some other bad management, then it can be reduced to a limited supply, whereby it can be (monopolized and) sold for a profit. (Supply being reduced means prices, and profits, go up.) This is what I mean by 'the negative motivator of creating markets where none existed before'. There is the motivation to take things that were once abundant, and partially destroy them so the supply is more limited, and money can then be made on them. Our system will never achieve abundance because there will always be the temptation to destroy some of that abundance to make money. Since our system doesn't work when things become too abundant and plentiful; this is why we have so many useless management positions and bureaucracies (where people make life difficult for each other). If we all worked on production lines, we'd produce too much and blow out our system with too many plentiful supplies. Our economic system takes abundance and cuts it down to a more limited supply (for a better profit). So instead of being at high capability, our system brings us to medium capability. Thus our economic system works to keep us and our world at reduced capability, in the trap of evil. This sucks! Also, even when there is a sound production producing economically, a product that everybody needs and making a good profit: that is spoiled by wall street buying and selling this company on the stock market. One big money tycoon buys this company, then another tycoon buys it from him, and another, and another. They take out loans to do this, so that they attach a big debt load to this good production, so that the slightest downturn makes this good production unable to meet its debt obligations, thus bankrupting a perfectly good and sound production. This sucks. But wait a minute. This does not suck. This is just what the Dr ordered. In order to get us out of our human hungers and the gray evils which go along with them, an environment of reduced and medium ability is just what is needed. And this economic money system naturally seeks the medium level. This is the area of coexistence between the money system and the force of good system. The force of good system also seeks to bring medium ability to where there are human hunger evils, (and also goods). However, once a thing has been freed from its human hunger evils, it becomes rich and of high ability, and needs to be removed from the money system, otherwise it will just be pulled down again. At this point, the money system and the force of good system part ways and do not share a common path; and the perfected force of good here needs to part ways and get away from this now detrimental money system. ECONOMICS Sunshine, water and sometimes fish are commodities that can be plentiful without human help. When they are abundant, no money can be made from them because supply so greatly exceeds demand. Yet we all benefit greatly from them (and for free too). But if someone were to come in and destroy or pollute these resources so there was a more limited supply, then money could be made selling the remaining supply./ We will never make things abundant in our economic system, because the temptation is always to make things less abundant so as to get rich. Supply and Demand supposedly helps us distribute resources where they're needed. When there's a shortage of something, people will pay more for it, and the price goes up. Those who produce the product make more money doing so. Others see the opportunity to make good money and join in the production. More product is produced, and the shortage is alleviated. This is how supply and demand is proposed to work for our benefit. But it doesn't always. There's a fault in supply and demand: If people don't have enough money in their pockets for the (prices of) the products out there, then supply and demand won't work (to alleviate shortages). The core idea was that people can make more money when there is a shortage of a product everybody's got to have. But higher prices for a product don't necessarily mean more money will be made. If there's a lack of money in people's pockets, they'll just be forced to buy less. It's not that starving people don't want to buy food; it's just that if they have no money, a demand for food won't show up in economic terms. Note that the money system thus doesn't always work to seek the medium environment, but sometimes seeks the barren environment. Here, the force of good system and the money system part ways, and there is no common ground at this point; and our sogp and jesus representations need to intervene and alleviate the barrenness to medium ability here. I don't think we have a clear picture of the extent that psychological forces are in operation. The use of these powerful psychological influences or sanctions, for the purpose of ensuring conformity and obedience to norms; themselves actually encourage disobedience and deviancy. The problem is not with negative sanctions, but with the use of positive sanctions or rewards. In order to modify behavior using rewards, one must first have a reward. If one doesn't have much, or wishes to make what they do have go further as a reward, they can manipulate the environment to make this more favorable. Do you recall, B.F. Skinners operant conditioning, psychology experiments where a rat was trained and its behavior modified? The researcher would use food pellets or droppersfull of water to reward the rat for modifying its behavior (after initially training the rat to get the reward with an associated stimulus). But in order for the food pellet or water to become a reward, the researcher would deny the rat these things the night, or a couple of nights before, so that the rat was really thirsty or hungry by the time the researcher worked with it. This denial of a positive thing, is defined to be a punishment -and not associated with any behavior the rat did. This punishment was not attempting to modify any behavior of the rat: its purpose was instead, to turn the water or food pellet in the hand of the researcher, into a reward in the rat's mind. In our society today, I feel we have relied excessively heavily on this operant conditioning psychology to modify human behavior. You see, even a person's place in the greater society; their very ability to be allowed to participate in; even to serve and WORK for and with the group; is made to be a privilege and a reward itself. So, in our society, being allowed to participate in and be a part of the group, is denied to newcomers just as a matter of policy, in order to make them hungry for this: so it can be used as a reward to modify behavior. The good jobs and positions of society can be doled out as rewards to those who modify their behavior favorably towards those who dole out these things, (as directed by those who dominate the larger society). Since teenagers are newcomers, as they didn't even exist before 19 years ago, they must be starved and made hungry for their places in the greater society; for this operant conditioning to work (that their future place in society is a reward to be earned). It is this starvation and living in a vacuum concerning participating in and being part of the group and the greater society, that sets the stage for these caveman type groups and gangs to try to fill that vacuum, as best as the individual can (and they don't fill it very well). We don't live in a vacuum, but in the great society of the great U. S. of A.. It is because no social structure is provided by this great society. Thus the individual is forced to provide this the best they can, as back in the caveman days, when groups of individuals got together, and hunted something. Now, if we understand this, we can know that (corporate) society is not leaving us alone, but is punishing us, not for anything we have done; but in a blanket action to all who haven't secured a place with them, in order to make us hungry. So now, we no longer need wonder why we are being punished when we haven't done anything wrong. We are punished, as part of a mechanism to control us. It is this situation of vacuum and void in the life of the young adult (ever hear the complaint 'there's nothing to do in this town'?), that encourages criminal deviance, because doing nothing is too boring; and doing anything else, involves property belonging to someone else, and is thus criminally deviant. In considering what is the problem concerning the issue of poverty, it makes a difference from who's perspective one is looking. To the poor person, the problem is: not having enough for basic survival needs. To the government, the ruling class, or the larger society; the problems with poverty may be quite different. To be blunt, poverty serves a purpose and has a function. One possibility of dividing up the economic goods we produce, is to divide them equally. However, in order to generate big rewards which are useful to motivate the masses to chase after them by doing the ruling class's bidding: one group must accept less than the equal share so another group can be enriched and receive a big reward. Those who must accept less, (that is the reward given for menial labor), are understandably displeased. But to get them to accept the menial reward in spite of this a more dire alternative is shown them -that of abject poverty. Poverty serves the purpose of motivating those designated to receive the menial reward, to accept this their place, in spite of its lack of luster. So for the ruling class, the problem with poverty in the US today is that there isn't enough of it; as our current reward system depends on a certain amount of it to help it run. Hence poverty persists in the US, more than in other industrialized countries like Canada and Western Europe even though these countries are less wealthy than the US. Here we see that the workings of the money system rely on poverty and voids and pain in order to make their system work. But this is actually fine and represents a common area within the confines of maintaining medium ability. However, oftentimes the money system wants to take it to the next level. They want to achieve richness, and to do so they employ more pain and suffering and poverty in order to achieve this. This results in barrenness, which is not conducive to separating the forces or generating rich free material; and the system thus collapses and breaks down, because the attempt to achieve richness actually causes the collapse due to the shift from medium ability to barrenness in the working class environment. So now we say that although there can be common ground between the money system and the force of good system; the money/greed system is unstable and must be watched and is also not the whole picture; and once human hunger materials have been freed and gone to high capability; this material needs to be protected from the money system. Then there is the concept of 'toughlove' which by its name, seems to indicate that it is also this common ground between the 2 systems. I mean, the tough part represents the money system, while the love part represents the godly side. But it is mostly a lie and is not this common ground even though its name seems to suggest it is. You see, we humans are no longer self sufficient but are unbalanced; so that when we are thrown out to fend for ourselves, this is a barren environment of total desolation because we cannot function alone. Now, if we are totally destructive teenagers, then this is a suitable thing to do to us, and it represents destruction being done to destruction; and this is the only common ground tough love has. But if we are teenagers who are like most people; who have some good and some bad to them; then a medium ability environment is what we need; and this is not what tough love delivers, as tough love instead delivers a barren environment; which is not the common ground between the 2 systems. Once again, our sogp and jesus representations will have to intervene against the messes created by tough love to bring these folks out of barrenness to medium ability so that the forces of good will be able to be freed and separate from the forces of evil. Xx Now for a little history: Perhaps I have been too hard on the Romans. You can be correct about something. But if you use destructiveness to enforce that right position, and force people to follow that right position, then that makes you wrong, even though you were right about your specific position. And that is what the Romans, and many others I might add, had done. In the history of man, we started out as more self sufficient, but because of rules over our sexual morality, we became less self sufficient, more unbalanced, so that we need to act together as a societal entity to survive. And these rules over our sexuality have been in place long before Christianity; although not every culture had them. So as we became more dependent on a societal entity, first came religious shaman and tribal kings to coordinate and direct our paths; but as our needs for societal direction became greater, and shaman couldn't be there for us all the time, the money system became more important. You see, the money system allows for unbalanced individuals to overproduce what they are good at and sell that excess into the money system so that they can then buy from society what they need in other areas but are not good at (but which other unbalanced individuals of the society ARE good at). Now to a religious shaman, the money system may seem the root of all evil, because it eliminates his control over the people and eliminates his position; but overall, both the shaman, and the money system, represent the societal entity, which ever more unbalanced individuals need to survive; just that the money system is more efficient. (You see, when an ever more unbalanced individual is isolated from a societal fix, (as when the shaman couldn't attend to their need), they must suffer in a self sufficiency which they are woefully inadequate at. -So that isolation, which is reserved for handling evildoers, wrongfully creeps into the lives of every day individuals who have no basis in evildoing.) And the Romans, who's leaders used the money system, did replace the tribes and cultures led by religious shaman, with a society led by money, and did 'romanize' the world. And the Romans didn't have this sexual morality that caused others to become ever more unbalanced. So, in this respect, they were on the 'right' path. But married to this righteousness, was the acceptance of so much destructiveness and carnage as a way of life, that this small bit of righteousness in this one area was negated and spoiled. So that then the religious leader, Jesus Christ, came, and took back some control from the roman money system, so that from Jewish roots, now we are returned to the sexual morality that keeps us making us ever more unbalanced, and in need of our societal entity to survive. As we individuals become more unbalanced and in need of the societal entity to survive, a system of taking advantage of this fact has grown up. People who would be leaders, exploit that fact by extracting from each individual the best possible deal for them, while the worst possible deal for that individual. And because the individual is not self sufficient, they are forced to accept whatever raw deal those running the show have to offer. So that business, which represents the societal entity, has a free hand and can get whatever they want from the individuals of the society. So that they have programs of isolation and throwing the individual out on their own for the purpose of breaking the individual and causing them to conform and to unquestioningly and faithfully obey orders. And if the individual will not break, they are cast aside until they do break and go along with the system of beating individuals into submission and absolute obedience. They use hunger, pain, and suffering as part of a system in making their system run. And in building a society, they really don't know what an individual is good at, so much as they know that the individual has a weakness that they can't survive without a connection to society: or that they will not use an individual even if they do know their strengths and weaknesses before they have been broken and forced to conform. The effect that this has, is it creates a societal entity that is less efficient, as not all the component parts are used, so that there are shortages in areas where people are not being used for what they are good at. So that the reward for participating and conforming in this society is less than what it could be. What this means is that the ruling society just uses more coercion and harsh treatments to get the individuals to accept the less than lustrous reward for conformity; especially newcomers who are being given the harsh treatment in order to break them into their place in the society. But doing these harsh treatments damages the efficiency of that society further because it results in the loss of some of the sensitive individuals (individuals who are becoming more sensitive every passing generation due to their ever increasing imbalance) that the rewards for conformity are even less appealing. -As individuals become more and more unbalanced and less self sufficient, they become more sensitive to these harsh treatments; but also relevant from this: -the society depends on them more because the other individual parts of society, who have gone off more into their own specialty, are less and less competent in their non specialty areas, so they are less able to cover for the loss of any one specialty area, so that the effect of loosing individuals to this breaking process, is ever increasing inefficiency in the output of the societal entity; so that the reward for conforming to and participating in the societal entity is lessened, which sets up a feedback where harsher and harsher measures are used to maintain conformity, and to break in the newcomers, and we end up with a North Korea where most everybody lives in misery; and they then blow everything up with an atomic bomb to put an end to that misery, in an end of the world scenario as predicted by the same religion that helped cause it through the sexual morality program that causes people to be more unbalanced over the generations. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Note that the function of the sogp or Jesus representation, is not only to separate and remove destructions and evils that can be removed, from the human hungers and gray areas; the sogp also has the job of removing evils/destructions from the high good parts. High good parts are of high ability, and they do what they can to avoid and get away from evil/destructions. But they can only act within and on themselves, and cannot act on the evil, else they will be contaminated by it; and this limits them. Also, if a high part is attached to a person who also has human hungers, then the evil of the hunger is always nearby, and the high part can't get away from it well without being able to contact the evil of the hunger. Also, since we are often unbalanced as people, we may generate a high part in one area, but be lacking in other areas so that this fragment of the high parts is not so able to get away from evil. So the sogp or Jesus representation then comes in and is able to contact the evil and remove it, move it, and separate it away from otherwise high good parts of a person. (as non destructively as possible). So that when the rewards people come and try to attack your high good parts and destroy them, seemingly for no reason; but now as we know, as part of their program to generate hunger so that their reward will work as their control over you; then you can counter this attack on your high parts with your and all Jesus representations; and believe me, you will need to defend your high parts from those who would attack and destroy them for seemingly no reason; from parents to total strangers who ally themselves with destruction to try to benefit from it. xxxx Also, the money system has its own inertia that tends to trap and keep people in its system as shown next: THE TRAP OF EVIL: We live in a world with both good and evil. Why couldn't we have had a world with good only? The reason we have evil along with the good in our world, is because evil is one of the POSSIBILITIES -that living things can do. (Without life, no actions (good or evil) are possible. But with life; both good and/or evil are possible actions from that life.) Given a world of both good and evil; our actions thus then contain (both) some good -(growth) as well as some evil -(destruction). Thus when we do actions to obtain a desired thing, we as life usually do some of both good and evil, in obtaining this thing. LIFE CAUSES GROWTH Employers never consider hiring my pet rock for a job. No, rocks/inanimate objects are not expected to produce growth. It takes life and living things to cause change and produce growth/ -The more 'alive' something is, the more growth it can cause. The idea of nurturing life to get it to produce more growth, forms one side of an argument/counter-argument: On one hand, we can say we should nurture life to the max so it will produce more growth. But on the other hand we can point out that if we make life too cushy, there'll be no motivation to work; people will take advantage of our good nature; sit around, relax (slacker), and won't do any work. We must let them know we mean business, and reward only when the job is done, or even punish for work not up to standards. (argues those in favor of rewards). But nurture is needed to edify life: -life which enables us to produce the required growths. -Two conflicting arguments. What shall we believe? Realize that just because you failed to produce the growths they want, doesn't mean you've done a destructive act. But they may do destructive acts to you for not producing the growths. Enter the factor of destruction: There is usually more than one way to do a thing. Some ways involve taking shortcuts and disregarding the harm they cause. But out of all the possible ways; there is still usually one way to do a complete job, without destruction. -A way that contains no harm. -And, It takes more resources to do something in this 'right' way. To obtain the thing without harm, we'd have to neutralize the harmful parts of ways containing evil, (Or, we could severely limit our possibilities and reject all ways containing harm). This would require more effort than if we did the thing the way it came naturally -(with both good and evil). Again: -The limited selection we have when we reject ways containing harm, often means we loose the easiest ways, just by probability. -Plus, it takes more resources to neutralize a harmful aspect of a way and do a complete job, than to just let the harm happen. Thus it takes more capability-power-life to obtain things with a purity in our actions (that is, free of harm). So we can do much more individually with what little we have when we're open to all possible ways irregardless of the harm they cause (in our search for the most productive way), and don't 'waste' resources trying to neutralize the harm of our ways. So when we're short -on-resources, this often forces us to use ways containing harm. When short-on-resources we may not have enough resources to do a thing evil free, BUT we can still usually do it if we lower our standards and allow harm in our ways. (Because we can do more* in the short run /individually/locally if we allow harm in our ways; (*with our scanty resources).) Unfortunately, this harm we allow catches up to us. As a collective group we find ourselves trapped at being short on resources because the collective harm from our ways lowers us all and keeps us short -on resources; since harming destroys resources. The harm we allow as we strive to be the best, win the competition, and produce the absolute most; catches up to us, collectively. When someone builds up life, but then another person knocks it down: and when life/things keep(s) getting built up and knocked back down over and over again; a system of stagnation takes form. And this stagnant system traps us, because collectively we cannot get ahead. Like a process may make a good product and income for a few, but also pollute the environment, and overall cause more harm than good. We can usually do more and be a bit more productive in the short run/locally/individually if we allow harm in our ways. But this harm we allow, keeps us all short-on-resources in the long run. ((Statement#1;)-And being short on resources forces us to accept ways containing harm.) And doing this harm destroys resources and collectively keeps us all short on resources. Go to Statement #1. As we can see, This is a trap. That once fallen into, cannot easily be gotten out of. So we should not be so concerned with winning in competition and who can generate the highest production as a sole criteria. We should more importantly look at how evil free a 'production' is. So we should nurture life as much as possible, so we are at as high capability as possible and are not short on resources, so that we do things with much less harm in our ways, -and thus avoid this trap of evil. It is important for us to be well nurtured (loved) and at high capability to have the extra resources needed to grow evil free. -So when we produce and do things (in an evil free way); that we do advance and grow overall. We thus overall provide escape from the trap and system of destruction, which is the stagnant system. Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx MORE SUPER ENTITY MATERIAL: Jumping back to the all inclusive super entity which contains everybody's different attributes all together in one entity: Now, this stuff can become a bit more complex: When the super all inclusive entity is generated, it doesn't have to be in the form which contains many duplicate copies of the common material. The reason I say this is because this material of the sogp/jesus representation often goes back and forth between the high parts (when it is resting), and the separate area of the sogp (when it is active and satisfying human hunger). When a human hunger is finished, in order to leave this area and join the high parts, the sogp rearranges itself to be at medium ability so that its material can escape this area and be freed of all evil so it can join and rest in the high parts. To do this, its super entity part needs to be brought from richness to medium ability; and this is done by removing the common material so that it no longer has multiple copies of it, but an actual shortage of it, to counteract the richness brought by having every different part of all human possibilities present together. And then all this extra common material is given to an individual entity, usually oneself or ones spouse. The individual entity being poor by being all by itself, is enriched by all this extra common material, so that it achieves medium ability also, and also escapes all evil to also join the evil free high parts. So that when a new human hunger appears, and sogp material leaves the high parts; this is the form it is in. And it is usually easier to recall material back from the high parts, than to create it all over from scratch. However, this isn't the form it needs to be in to satisfy human hungers. So the individual gives up its richness of common parts to the collective super entity so that individual material stands alone in poverty and barrenness and the super entity is once again rich in common material. The super entity then deploys and expands into the partially separate entity and commences to satisfy the human hunger (after removing itself from the super entity area). This material delivers evil free human hunger material to the high parts as it works with this material in medium ability. But wait. This leaves behind the stand alone individual in barrenness, who cannot make it to the high parts due to the barrenness. Hence this wasted individual crud accumulates every time we satisfy a human hunger. A separate, flushing action is needed to return this material to the high parts. So what we do, is a flushing action whereby we draw resting material from the high parts, not to do any human hunger satisfying, but in order to use the form it is in, to flush this crud back up to the high parts. We then keep the all inclusive 'super' entity as it is, and do not enrich it with common material from the individual entity. We also do no hunger satisfying with it, but instead allow this medium ability all inclusive entity to return/escape back up to the high parts where we just brought it from. Now with the rich individual entity, we join it with the poor individual entity, without requiring the poor entity to perform any requirements to make it worthy, but instead, without delay or condition, enrich this poor individual so that the combined individual entity is now at medium ability. Note that the rich individual entity is only able to take a certain amount of poor entity, as there needs to be enough richness to enrich the whole combined individual entity to medium ability. This entity can then escape/leave the human area, and rejoin the high area. In the high area, the evil freed partially separate entity can retract into a super entity configuration, and give common material back to the individual entity (although this may not be what happens). But in any case, the presence of a poor person who is evil free in the presence of the high parts is a bonanza for them, and is great food for the high force of good to fill voids. Now one may naysay and say that the poor individual entity enriched with common material, is still not at medium ability because it takes a rich amount of common material to put an individual entity at medium ability, so that a medium amount of common material won't bring the combined individual entity to medium ability. And this is true. The combined individual entity will be on the low side of medium ability in the scale between barrenness and medium ability. And its escape from evil to the high parts will be slower than usual. But it will get done, and it won't be held indefinitely, as the barren material would be. Since it isn't satisfying any human hunger and is evil free within itself as much as possible, this helps also. But also, to make this more productive, a large amount of return high material needs to come down, to rescue a smaller amount of barren individual material. This problem occurs when individual entities realize their existence is incomplete due to their unbalanced non self sufficient state, so they give up all they have to generate a super entity along with other incomplete individuals. Ideally this super entity would then deploy to become a partially separated entity which would contain all the attributes of all the individuals, all connected together with a common link. This would then satisfy the human hungers and would free that material from evil to move up and join the evil free high parts. But this leaves the empty shells of barren individuals behind to never be freed to join the high parts. So a second action to come back down and bring these empty shells up evil free into the high parts is done, so that the high force of good can be well fed by restoring these empty shells to high ability. Now, perhaps a better way to do this would be to load up a super entity with common material, or better yet, load up a partially separated entity (even one that just got up there through evil free human hunger satisfying); and have it come back down when the hunger is satisfied, not to do more hunger satisfying, but instead to deliver common material to these poor individual entities. And this partially separated entity could retract into a super entity, thus freeing up even more common material to deliver to the poor individual entities. And as a super entity, it could give up as much common material so that it was kind of short on common material, so that overall, this super entity would be at medium ability, whence it would then return to the high parts since medium ability material escapes evil and returns to the high parts; perhaps to pick up another load of common material and to do it again. And the poor individual entities would no longer be poor, but rich in common material, enough so that they would be at medium ability overall, and would then also make it up into the high parts, where they could return the common material given them to a super entity if need be. Xxxxx Now, I don't think I have a clear picture of what is going on here, and I wish to expand my definitions. Let us start with what is the richest in common or completely whole material. That would be individual entities loaded up with common material. Then if we remove some of the common material, then each individual entity can double up a little bit and share some common material in the partially separated entity. If we remove even more common material, then a super entity is formed where common material is shared completely between the individual components, none of which have any individuality. Now if we gave back common material to this super entity, then it could be a super entity that hadn't yet deployed into a partially separated entity. So that super entities can have varying degrees of richness of common material, and depending on this, do exhibit different properties; so that it is too general to just say 'super entity' and that the amount/degree of attached common material must also be specified. Continuing on, if we take away all the excess common material, then a super entity is unable to deploy into a partially separate entity. Now if we keep taking away common material, then the super entity, which normally would be at high ability due to the many complimenting individual components, would be at medium ability due to the shortage of common, or connecting material. (Note the concept that neither BARREN nor RICH human material escapes to the evil free high parts, but that medium ability material does.-this concept is often used here.) Continuing on, as we remove even more common material from this 'super' entity, the individual components become as isolated individuals, except that whatever individual component gets to the common material is the individual, leaving the other individual components non functional. Then as nearly all the common material is removed, there isn't even an individual entity, but just a loose nonconnected collection of non functioning individual components. Now with this spectrum of entities, let us satisfy a human hunger. The sogp comes out of resting in the high parts as a super entity with a good amount of common material. It then gives up most of its common material to the undeployed and new material that is the next stage in satisfying the hunger. This puts the present sogp in barrenness, and the new part at rich ability. Thus both of these materials don't escape to the high parts, but remain to continue satisfying the hunger. This continues for a time (to be in line with a cycling structure); whence the rich new stage material relinquishes its common material to share equally with the barren sogp, so that the whole material is now at medium ability. Even though the sogp came down in high ability; its expansion into the new material has diluted the common material to only provide medium ability, -as a super entity unable to deploy into a partially separated entity. And the sogp didn't take on an excessive degree of new material or new stage of progress material, so at this point it wouldn't dilute the common material too much below medium ability. Now this medium ability super entity may be unable to make further progress in the human hunger due to being unable to deploy into a partially separate entity, but keep on with it anyway, as it represents one part of the cycling, and more importantly it works its way up into the high parts due to its medium ability. Evil free in the high parts it picks up common material (due to the richness of the evil free high parts); so that it deploys into a partially separate entity and then comes back down to try to finish the hunger satisfying. After a time, it again gives up common material (by retracting into a super entity and even giving up much more common material to put that super entity even lower in common material so it is in barrenness; while the new stages of the hunger satisfying are in richness, so that the new stages then deploy as partially separated entity. And then after a cycle time, the rich new, shares with the barren old entity to become one medium entity again. And after some number of these cycles, the hunger is satisfied in this medium entity, which then rises to the high parts due to its medium ability; and can be given common material to become deployed as a partially separate entity in the high parts; and it can do this because it has become evil free. This can continue on for another cycle time where the satisfied hunger can now be done as a deployed partially separate entity (and if it needs to leave the high parts, it can), after which one wishes to choose to stop the hunger satisfying activities; but is something one cannot do in the high parts because one hasn't achieved that evil free just yet. And if it has left the high parts as a partially separate entity, it is then already there (and it can't get back into the high parts because it is no longer at medium ability, but is at high ability overall due to the common material it picked up when it was in the high parts. You see, to satisfy a human hunger is imperfect; but to stop satisfying a human hunger is just as imperfect, just in different areas. So that the sogp now once again leaves the high parts (if it hasn't already done so) and acts in the human area to do 'stopping feeding a hunger' (after a cycle of completely satisfying the hunger as a partially separate entity). As a partially separate entity it is rich, but it needs to get to medium ability to get back up to the high parts. It needs to dilute its common material to another added area to get to medium ability. And the area of stopping the hunger satisfying is a new area. However, the stopping the hunger area is not compatible with the satisfying the hunger area, and the two cannot opperate together. But separately they still represent two areas, and that is one extra area than what the high ability partially separate entity came down with. So that now, ones main self can join up with the stopping the hunger satisfying area/directive, and cast off the satisfying the hunger area/directive; and then deliver to the separate hunger satisfying area/directive, enough common material to put the main self together with the stopping hunger action/area at medium ability so it will naturally rise up to join the high parts again. The medium level of common material delivered to the now alone hunger satisfying action does not give this entity enough ability to also be at medium ability overall, because it no longer has all the surrounding complimentary components like a super entity would, but is now more like an individual entity because it is alone and is less than complete. So it cannot follow the main entity up to the high parts, but is left in the human area, listing more towards barrenness. Once our main entity is up in the high parts, it receives more common material and becomes a partially separate entity, and probably must leave the high parts to do further stopping the hunger action now as partially separate entity, since that represents a change from how it was done as super entity at medium ability unable to deploy to partially separate entity. -a change that is not completely evil free, since it deals in human hunger. So it must leave the high parts because even the smallest evil is not tolerated. But once again, now it is rich as a partially separated entity, and cannot get back into the high parts. But never fear, it can then come down to the human area, and after doing the stopping hunger action and working that out as a partially separate entity, can lock that in and retract into a super entity and also give up even more common material thus putting it at medium ability, to the now individual entity of the hunger satisfying action so that the rich amount of common material delivered to this individual entity, puts it overall, at medium ability. And the two medium ability entities can now rise to the evil free high parts. But now, there is a minor point that needs to be taken into consideration. When these entities are rearranging themselves, when they sever from one another, they do so by taking a small linking component, and removing common material so much from it that it is just a collection of non functioning isolated material at very barren ability. This small amount of linking material is also brought from barrenness to medium ability by giving it a rich amount of common material, along with the individual feeding hunger entity. And if a second trip back and forth from the high parts is needed to transfer more common material is needed, that is done. And the main entity doing this here, is able to do this, because no changes are made in how it does its action, because it came from partially separate entity (that was retracted to super entity that was then again re deployed to partially separate entity). Any changes that needed to be made, were made in the first transformation to partially separate entity, and not in subsequent transformations to partially separate entity. And since it didn't change, it didn't leave evil free status, and could return to the high parts even though rich And the main entity would continue on as being satisfied and not doing further hunger satisfying, not according to cycling(which maintains our choice for both the individual as well as collective directive), but according to that we do not need to do a human hunger activity that we do not have a hunger for at this time. And we can continue on in whatever we have made our evil free form as with our sogp at rest in the high parts in this form; until we again experience a human hunger that brings our sogp back out of rest and this whole thing starts all over again. END SUPER ENTITY MATERIAL Xxxxxxxxxxxx But perhaps we are not able to create things brand new or generate super entities that have every possible combination, seeing how we are an unbalanced individual. I should get more realistic and work with what we have. We have a societal entity that is complete and balanced by taking the best skills of each individual entity. Then we have each individual entity (which can range from completely self sufficient, to, totally unbalanced to the point it has no life anymore as an individual entity but is only a component part (of the societal entity)). And as the individual entity becomes ever more unbalanced, a love between any 2 individuals is also severely unbalanced. But this is ok, because we can use this and work with this. Note that the reproductive drive area is imperfect and needs to be at medium ability. But the societal entity is always at high ability; and the payment to each individual for their work allows them all access to a degree of high capability. So when one is doing imperfect reproductive drive actions, one needs to temper that high capability down to medium ability. And this can be done by generating at full steam in one's or the two's unbalanced way, and delivering the comforts and goodnesses of ones (unbalanced) activities to the object of ones affection, while holding the shortages generated, to oneself. This is done for one cycle period. The fact that one is expanding into a new area, also helps to generate medium ability due to spreading resources thin by taking on a new area. The cycle period is because previously this new action was not done at all; representing the 'off' part of the cycle. Now that the new action is being done, it is first done at the full 'on' part of the cycle. (One can thus make a choice for balance between individual vs group directives with this cycling way.) But now then, after a cycle period is over, then one can stop going full bore at this action, and go at moderate level. (This also represents a choice for balance.) So that now, one has shortages from the previous full bore activity, and also some of the desired, but imperfect action present, all here at medium ability; because the shortages saved up, do dampen the high ability provided by the individual's share of the high ability societal entity's payment for the individual's work. (But of course, not every action one does is imperfect-human -hungers, so that one does not always seek the medium ability like this.) Now, once one has put out their unbalanced love in such a way, in medium ability; it frees itself from its internal evil, and becomes of high ability and also evil free. So that one no longer needs to find this medium ability this way. And one can move onto other imperfect couplings and also set them evil free in the same manner. However, what one should avoid, is multiple loves all at once, because when multiple people get together, their unbalanced skills start to combine into a balanced entity. And a balanced entity doesn't generate unfilled shortages; and with no shortages, the high ability of the societal group cannot be brought down to medium ability; thus leaving the imperfect human hunger in a rich environment where it doesn't free itself from its internal evil. So, one at a time please; at least in the initial purification stages; and don't mix purified human action with impure human hunger action unless it is in a medium ability environment. So that once one has freed their love for their partner, they can allow their partner to free their love in the same way, using theirself. Better yet, a couple in love with each other can generate their own imbalance together. Because they are imbalanced, they generate excess material in excess of what they need. This extra material doesn't put them at richness, because they don't sell it into the larger society much. But the shortages that come along with their unbalanced production, do put them both at medium ability, down from the high ability provided by their connection to and work in, the greater society. This medium ability environment allows them to work their imperfect human loves out unto evil free high ability; together, at the same time. So, we don't need to overcome the imbalance of our state as unbalanced individuals; to go and generate a complete and balanced super entity; but can use our imbalance to our advantage. What we do is when we are doing a new part of satisfying a human hunger action, we keep the unbalanced production from going into the societal entity, but we allow the shortages generated by that unbalanced production to go into our share of the societal entity; to thereby generate medium ability (down from high ability). Once the human hunger has purified itself, then that rich unbalanced production can be released/accessed. No need to work at a job that barely pays for much hard work to achieve medium ability. (This represents maximizing the societal (work) entity at the expense of the individual entity.) Xxxx Now, concerning conservative Christianity; the gradual creep towards elimination of the individual entity, leaving only the societal entity; as we have theorized, the lack of the ability to try many possibilities, causes the leader/s to not have good policies, which allows problems to fester. And the lack of coordination also causes a poor result. What this does is to cause the societal entity, which usually generates richness, to now only generate medium ability environments. And this is great for purifying human hungers. So now we have found an excellent place for conservative Christianity; which is to serve as the instrument of purification for our human hungers. And isn't this what Christ promises? -the forgiveness of sin. Jumping back, Note that unbalanced growth is not in itself the evil intertwined in human hungers; but it is useful in purifying that evil. Note that setting the individual as mainly self sufficient, also sets the societal entity at medium ability, which also is great for purifying these human hungers. So, why not just go with my unbalanced growth idea, that comes naturally from individuals being unbalanced for the societal entity, and not need these other mechanisms for purifying ones human hungers? Well, the thing is, my unbalanced growth mechanism doesn't allow for group orgies or multiple loves mixed together simultaneously; and neither does the giving the individual entity too much self sufficiency (as they don't tend to get together, but keep to themselves; whereas orgies require people to get together.) So we have now found the proper place for conservative Christianity: -to be the host for orgies and other human groupings involving imperfect human actions with intertwined evil. And I do hereby place my stamp of approval on this, and say, praise this conservative lord. And note that we can use any of these devices to purify our human hungers as need be. However, not all actions are human hungers, and there are times when a competent and evil free rich societal entity can be useful also; which is why we can have a separation of church and state, and hopefully generate a societal entity where there is a better balance between the individual entity and the societal entity: hence the home of non conservative Christianity and others. And I applaud that also. Now, on the off chance conservative Christianity won't be receptive to my needs for group sex, a back up plan may be in order. Hence perhaps getting back into the super entity ideas may be the way to go. Like, the idea of the super entity (to do hunger satisfying that will rise evil free into the high parts) -a Super Entity that has common material removed, so as to put it at medium ability (down from the high ability of the super entity with more common material, or the partially separated entity, which also has extra common material); is very similar to a societal entity which has eliminated the individual position, just like the end result of conservative Christianity will do. Let me abbreviate conservative Christianity as 'CC'. With CC, the societal entity which normally is at high ability, is at medium ability, due to the lack of coordination and inability to explore multiple possibilities simultaneously (since the individual components have no life of their own). This is great for purifying intertwined human hunger evils, resulting in purified individuals. However, as the genetic drift under CC completely eliminates the individual position, there then becomes no individuals left to purify; leaving the only Individual left (the societal entity), stuck at medium ability always lagging behind, unable to bridge many barriers, uncoordinated and slow at finding solutions. So that ultimately, CC does not work out to be a solution for anything; but in the process of getting to this final point, it does set many unbalanced individuals free. It can be said that by itself, conservative Christianity is good for a season, but after that, comes Armageddon. xxxxxxx Now, the super entity, with a shortage of individuality or common material, does provide the medium ability environment needed, just like CC. Now, the partially deployed (partially separate entity) does provide some isolation and privateness to each individual component, which is useful in providing a place out of reach of the societal entity for all the rich unbalanced production that accumulates, but it is not at medium ability but is at high ability (due to having all human attributes present together but not too cramped together), like a societal entity. Lacking the medium ability environment, makes it a poor place for purifying human hungers. But what if we were to minimize the societal entity and maximize the individual entity. These would be almost (but not quite) fully deployed individuals on their own. Any unbalance these individual components have would cause unfilled shortages (as well as overproductions) according to their unbalanced growths. As mostly isolated individuals (with only a limited connection to the societal entity); the rich overproduction of their imbalance would not come together to generate overall richness (like it would if it were put into/made into a societal entity) -because they are all isolated from each other -due to being deployed as (partially) separate individual components. But the shortages from their unbalanced growths WOULD bring them down. And if they only had a limited connection to the societal entity, then they would only be resupplied to medium ability, and not richness. And this is just what we need to purify multiple unbalanced (human hunger) loves simultaneously. The isolated unbalanced loves would only share their shortages and would only trade a little of their unbalanced surpluses into the societal entity to alleviate shortages to only medium ability. And this works out as long as individuals are unbalanced to some degree and not totally self sufficient. However, if many generations of offspring from multiple loves occurred, then unbalance would give way to total self sufficiency. So that CC or some type of conservatism/morality is needed to keep some degree of imbalance in the individuals. Neither way is adequate within itself, but each must be tempered with the other. CC cannot be the only way, or the absolute ruler; but neither can we go it without CC. In one plan, the individual is glorified, yet still with a little bit of work (which represents the societal entity). There are many siestas and vacations, with just a little bit of work. In the CC plan, the individual must sacrifice for the societal entity, and there is a lot of work: it is the workaholic, where it is all work, and the individual is totally given over to the societal entity. Both these ways are able to entertain multiple unbalanced loves simultaneously. And both these ways must coexist to have a long term future for a society. But if the individual gets tired of working so much, they can just reduce this to some kind of morality of one man one woman. Perhaps the compromise of allowing sexual expression where offspring are not produced; while reserving marriage for the purpose of childbearing, only; is in order. Christ writes 'Take upon my yoke, for I am easy and my burden is light'. And from this, we can gather that He wants us to choose this non conservative Christianity; where we purify our human hungers by maximizing the individual entity, and minimizing our societal, work, entity. Once again I reiterate: there needs to be a balance in the imbalance within individuals. There needs to be some imbalance; but not too much imbalance. Imbalance in the individual represents the degree the societal entity is given to, over the individual entity: And there needs to be a balance between the societal and the individual entity; and one should not supersede the other. However, perhaps I have been too hasty to achieve this balance as a matter of policy. I now think that this balance can be stretched a bit towards the societal entity and imbalanced individuals, so that they may use this imbalance to purify their human hungers in the reproductive drive area; and by so doing, relax that stretch back to normal balance. Of course, I am still against prolonged and excess imbalance that totally sacrifices the individual entity to the societal entity. So that when a society stretches the balance towards the societal entity; then it is right to relax that stretch back towards balance. But in doing so, one should maximize the sexual satisfaction achieved ie the purification of the human sex drive. And one should be less inclined to manufacture mostly self sufficient individuals, because they would have no or little imbalance to purify their sex drive with. This doesn't mean interracial procreation is to be eliminated, just that in the future, it is not to be a major thing. (but for now, there needs to be a group of intermediate people or mixed breeds, that represents a continuous line between all the differences in people that can exist.) That one should not procreate interracially as a matter of policy, in order to mix the genes, to come down from the excessive imbalance that exists; but only when there is an intense sexual attraction between the couple. (But this may be incorrect.) What I am saying, is that once there is an even field or continuous transition between all the differences that people can be; that one should avoid procreating with someone who is too different; but be open to procreating with someone who is somewhat different; according to one's sexual desires, or that what will satisfy one's sexual desires. And even in the interracial procreation that needs to be done today to generate a connecting population of mixed breeds; that should be done only between couples who are well sexually attracted to each other. But even this may be incorrect. Because if there is a correlation; a connection, between the sexual attraction felt by an interracial couple, and the intensity of the sex drive of their offspring; this will create offspring who are more self sufficient, and thus less imbalanced; but with a large sex drive to purify. And with no imbalance to provide medium ability, they will be unable to purify much of their large sex drive. So the suggestion may be to only procreate interracially between couples who are not very sexually attracted, so as to minimize the sex drive in their offspring; and then the sex drive can be increased from there, in future generations between more similar people with thus more imbalance. as I am still trying to figure these things out; and I leave it to each of you to decide for yourselves what is the best way to go. I don't think I have a clear picture here. I am just beginning to realize the precarious balance we all must walk. The reproductive drive is so basic to all of us, that if we don't take care of it properly, it will eat us alive. (Note that the phrase 'straight and narrow' as a path, can refer to semen traveling down an erect phallus .) Now, previously I had been concerned about generating people who were too unbalanced so that the individual entity was squeezed out completely; which results in bad results for that society. But now I see the advantage some imbalance has for purifying the sex drive. When someone has a good degree of imbalance, they can use that imbalance to enjoy sexuality with everyone around them, (ie, purify their sex drive). But if they procreate with everybody, the offspring will most likely be less imbalanced and more self sufficient; (which is a good thing in most other respects), but which prevents these offspring from being able to purify their sex drive and enjoy sexuality in the same way their parents are able to. So that as parents who are able to enjoy their sexuality; they want to pass that on to their offspring, and avoid creating offspring who can't enjoy sexuality like they do. So that while these unbalanced people should be open to sexual love with all races and peoples; they should avoid procreation with all their partners; and procreate only with those who are similar enough to maintain the same degree of excessive imbalance that they have. -But not so similar that they increase that excessive imbalance too much more. You see, in pursuit of maintaining sexual enjoyment/purification; one can go too far in encouraging imbalance in their offspring, resulting in total elimination of the individual entity with the accompanying dire consequences for that societal entity. Thus the mating between (2nd)cousins should be celebrated, instead of being actively suppressed as it is now. Now, for those of us who are more self sufficient and less unbalanced; who are unable to use imbalance to purify their sex drive so well; there is still the conservative Christian way or some other similar workaholic, hard work, low pay way to alternatively purify one's sex drive. But that isn't quite as good for one's quality of life. Xxx Ooops. This isn't quite the total picture. Yup, now is one of those times when I am changing my mind again in completely the opposite direction and reversing much that I have written. There are several things to accomplish when doing human hunger satisfyings. First we need to provide the medium ability environment for purification of the human hunger; but also to keep material here in the hunger satisfying mode long enough to satisfy the specific hunger. And also; it would be nice to be able to choose a the choice for balance between the group entity vs the individual or component entity; and avoid the choice for just the group entity. Now, if we use the imbalances that have been bred into us; this can work fine for generating the medium ability environment needed for its purification. But it does nothing towards us choosing the balance between group vs component entities, beyond the initial doing of the hunger satisfaction (balanced against the long not doing of the hunger satisfaction before we started doing the hunger satisfaction); and so we have to come up with something extra to choose this balance. What I am leaning to, is my earlier structure to satisfy human or gray hungers involving cycling frequencies of doing, then not doing, the action; as well as the idea of a partially deployed super entity. I had dismissed the use of the partially deployed entity because it was too rich, and had gone on to try to make medium ability environments with this concept. However, the cycling between fully doing, and then not doing, an action; not only chooses the balance between group vs component entities; but also delivers the medium ability environment. So that we can take a high ability structure like a partially deployed entity and have it present doing hunger satisfaction for a cycle time; and then dissolving it for a cycle time; and then reconstituting it for a cycle time, etc. so that even though it is a high ability concept; the act of turning it off and on and off and on repeatedly, generates a medium ability environment overall, because the off part of the cycle is a barren environment. But before I incorporate the partially deployed entity concept, let me just stick with the full intensity doing of the hunger, followed by a low/no intensity doing of the hunger, in a cycling frequency. I want to get back to a simpler concept that I had explained earlier about the human hunger gray actions which generate goodness and also destruction unavoidably in the same action, but to different areas. And that if we don't structure them to the same areas, but let them be done randomly; that we will achieve the medium ability environment we seek. But now with this turning on, and then off, of a human hunger, we achieve the same thing, but now in full control of the human hunger doing. Because if doing a human hunger causes goodness to be generated in one area, but destruction to be done in another area; then refraining from doing that hunger (in the 'off' part of the cycle), perfectly reverses the destruction and goodness done, unlike any randomness could provide; to generate a medium ability environment. (And of course, additionally gives us the choice for balance between group vs component entities.) But at this point, I wish to be more specific about the cycling frequency of turning the human hunger on, and then off (and on and off etc). Realize that when first starting to satisfy a human hunger; previous to this, we had been not-doing the human hunger for a substantial period of time; and that this had made us very hungry. Ie, it made certain areas barren, and other areas rich, in accordance with what the 'off' part of the cycle generates. So that if we did the cycling rapidly with a short cycle period, then the short 'on' doing of the hunger- satisfying wouldn't lift the 'one' area out of barrenness, nor bring the 'other' rich area down from richness. So that initially, we must do the hunger satisfying 'on' part for longer than just a short burst; but of course also, not too long either. Once the initial conditions have been changed away from barrenness in 'one' area and richness in the 'other' area; to medium ability all around; then a rapid cycling can be done to lock in that medium environment. But starting with rapid cycling, just keeps the initial barrenness and richness as is. Now, there is another consideration. When human hunger material exists in a medium ability environment, the goodness in it escapes the evil there, and frees itself from its evil, and the evil-free good escapes and joins the high parts, which have no direct connection with imperfect human hunger satisfying. So the goodness from doing the hunger satisfying, and also the goodness from not-doing the human hunger satisfying, both escape this system and become evil free to join the separate high parts. But this leaves a vacuum in the hunger satisfying arena; and if the hunger hasn't finished being satisfied, then that makes a barren situation and an unsatisfied hunger. So what we can do, is to do the human hunger to rich ability. This generates goodness in 'one' area to rich ability. The 'other' area, which is already barren due to its good escaping to the high parts, just remains barren as it is pummeled. Then once richness in the 'one' area is achieved, we switch to 'not-doing' the hunger satisfying for half the time (that it took to build to richness). This causes the rich 'one' area to be lowered to medium ability, and also the once barren 'other' area to be raised also to medium ability. Once at medium ability, a rapid cycling frequency of equal on and off durations can be done, to thereby keep this material at medium ability; also which, in time, escapes to the high parts. Now, we can look at a hunger satisfaction as piecemeal; as having sequential or successive stages of achievement. Then new stages may need to be done to richness, while older stages are at medium ability with a rapid cycling frequency. However, this may be an error, because the same areas may be helped and harmed even though different stages (but of the same human/gray hunger satisfaction) are involved. So that taking the new stage to rich in the 'one' area, may pummel the same 'other' area that was trying to operate at medium ability from the older stage; and so this would not be a good choice. If the satisfaction takes too long, some older stages (even the non staged hunger satisfaction, now that we are no longer considering stages) may have completely emptied (with both areas (the one, and the other) in barrenness), due to their good material escaping to the high parts: that this stage(complete whole) may again go to richness (with a long 'on' cycle part), and then to medium ability (with a half long 'off' cycle part); and then to rapid cycle. We must wait until most of the goodnesses in the medium ability environments escape to the high parts, (thus emptying these areas and making them barren, (whence no more goodness escapes due to no longer being at medium, but instead barren)), because when we go to rich in the 'on' part of the cycle; because we are dealing with a human hunger which does both good and destruction, 'rich' refers to the 'one' area, whereas at the same time, the 'other' area is decimated; so that if this other area is already near barren, then little is lost. Xxxx Here we have a method for satisfying our human hungers that also chooses the balance between group vs component entities that we want. This is better than the use of imbalances within us method. Both concepts can be used together, cooperatively, but the on-off method is more central due to its solving both the medium ability environment and the choosing the balance between group vs component entities. And also uses the flaw or destructiveness of the human hunger itself; whereas the imbalance method uses outside methods to lower to medium ability, which are not as directly targeted to the proper areas. So that the directives to procreate with a spouse who has a good degree of similarity; and to generate a degree of excessive imbalance but not too much of this excessive imbalance; and encouraging 2nd cousin mating: are all of lesser or no importance. And if we get into the super entity stuff, these things are even less favored. Before, with the partially separate entity, I had tried to have the hunger satisfying continue on as the partially separate entity took different forms. But to be in line with the on-off method, we need an 'off' part of the cycle where the hunger satisfying ceases; and so the different forms of the super entity where hunger satisfying continues, are discarded. Now, let us get into what it takes to generate a partially separate entity. (The purpose of this entity was to bring us all together as one, yet still retain some individuality. So that the jealousies that occur between couples would be eliminated. But come to think of it, a big reason people don't stick with their mate is because of the allure of new material. Because new material hadn't been done before; there had been a long buildup of 'off' activity; which allows for a long and rich period of 'on' activity, (before one should switch back to 'off' for half that time, and then to a more rapid cycling on and off). It is in the medium ability environments found under the more rapid on off cycling, where the goodnesses here do escape to the high parts. This is a major value of doing things in the human hunger areas. But one can be distracted by the newness of other new people and new romances, that they neglect finishing what they have already started; and neglect the important work of working with this material in the medium ability environment. But of course, if one does the work of working with their human hunger material in the medium ability environment and waiting till the goodnesses in both areas escape to the high parts; they needn't restrict themselves from new material. Now I wish to get a clearer picture of this stuff. First I want to examine this rapid cycling more closely. Not only is the cycle time important, but also the intensity of doing in the 'on' part of the cycle. So that if the same intensity is being considered, the shorter time of the 'on' period under rapid cycling, means less can be accomplished before the 'off' part of the cycle decimates or reverses what had been accomplished. And this is why I used it to fix a position at medium ability once that had been achieved. But rapid cycling isn't the only way to fix a position. The intensity level also represents a way to change or fix positions, and we can use it instead of rapid cycling to achieve our positions. Consider that before we started the hunger satisfying, that we counted the long time previous to starting it, as a long 'off' period, which diminished 'one' area, but greatly advance an 'other' area (to richness). And I get this from that a human hunger does goodness to some areas, but destruction to others; and that not-doing the human hunger perfectly reverses this, and does destruction to some areas but goodness to the others. Another factor that comes into play here is that whenever one of these areas is at medium ability, its goodness escapes to the high parts, which removes material from these areas and moves them towards barrenness. Whereas if these areas are either rich or barren, goodnesses do not escape to the high parts. From these concepts, we can map out several scenarios of what we can do. Let us start out as just starting a hunger satisfaction. At the start, the 'one' area is barren or hungry, and the 'other' area is rich. We can do the 'on' part of a cycle for a medium period, or do a medium intensity of hunger satisfaction. That will bring the 'other' area down to medium ability, and also bring the 'one' area up to medium ability. With both areas at medium ability, they both loose goodness material to the high parts, and both tend towards barrenness. In response to this, we can increase our intensity of 'on' doing of the hunger satisfaction to bring the 'one' area to richness, and decimate the 'other' area even further; but since it was already barren, it just remains barren. We can then lower our doing of the hunger satisfaction, and thus the 'one' area to medium (off from richness), which will then bring up the 'other' area from barren to medium. With both areas in medium again, we can start this over again. But this isn't a real plan because when both areas are at medium ability, and then they start loosing goodnesses to the high parts, thus putting both areas towards barrenness; they no longer loose material due to being towards barrenness, thus they recover towards medium, so that both areas stabilize just below medium; so no area is already at barrenness when it is decimated when the other area is made rich. But there are other, better ways to do things. When both areas are at medium and are both loosing goodnesses to the high parts, instead of increasing the 'one' area to richness by excessive (intensity) doing the hunger action; another way is to stabilize the 'one' area to the low side of medium, by lowering the intensity of doing so that the 'other' area is enriched. But the 'other' area never increases above medium because it just looses the material to the high parts. Still at medium ability, it continues to loose to the high parts. The 'one' area is brought lower to achieve this, but it is not brought so low as to be completely barren. Hunger satisfaction is still done at a low rate to continue this. If we go completely to no hunger doing, and complete barrenness in the 'one' area, that will deliver complete richness to the 'other' area, and will overcome the material lost to the high parts to move the 'other' area from medium to richness, whence it will stop loosing material to the high parts and thus move to richness even faster. But we do not do this. We willfully entertain, at first a decent doing of hunger satisfaction, which brings any richness in the 'other' area down to medium ability. Once the 'other' area is in medium ability, we start shrinking the doing of hunger satisfaction. This loss in the 'one' area causes an increase in the 'other' area, but that increase is not realized in this 'other' area, as it just makes up what is lost to the high parts, so the other area stays at medium ability and continues to loose to the high parts. We adjust the 'one' area lower and do less, but still some, hunger satisfaction, just enough to not let the 'one' area fall any lower. What this does is to give from the 'one' area to the 'other' area, because when the 'one' area is lowered, that raises the 'other' area. But the 'other' area looses that raise to the high parts. And also, the 'one' area, being on the low side of medium, also looses some to the high parts. So, if we maintain these areas at these levels; a lot of material is saved to the high parts. And as we have seen, that is a main reason we do human/gray hunger satisfying in the first place. So that even if things don't work out well in the hunger satisfaction, much goodness has still been freed to the high parts. Now, we could reverse these roles, and let the 'other' area serve the 'one' area. But this would force us to do ever increasing hunger satisfaction, because it is possible to reach states where losses to the high parts are excessive; so that one would be forced to do excessive hunger satisfying just to maintain medium ability. Whereas in the reverse situation it would be easy to not-do hunger satisfying for the most part (just do a minor hunger satisfying just off of barren), to supply much richness to the 'other' area; -the other area not receiving that richness, but instead loosing it to the high parts. Also, the failure to successfully satisfy the human hunger, say if the potential mate declined; would prevent the 'one' area from replacing what it lost to the high parts. Also, most of our lives we have probably done more hunger satisfying than this 'reverse' hunger satisfying, so that the high parts are more stuffed with escaped hunger satisfying material, and might prefer some escaped 'reverse' hunger satisfying material to balance it out. Also, the nature of satisfying human hungers are that when we are finished and are full, we wish to stop and no longer continue feeding. With the reverse hunger satisfying, or the 'one' area supporting the 'other' area; the 'one' area is near barren, and is easily stopped without much trouble; whereas with the other plan, the 'one' area is at medium and is heavily involved feeding material into escaping to the high parts; it is not in a good position to easily bring the hunger satisfying to a stop; and it has an inertia that wants to keep going with the hunger satisfying, even after one is full and no longer desires this hunger satisfying. Thus this reverse hunger satisfying plan is the best state to be in when one is ready to finish the hunger satisfying and come to a stop with it until next time. Note that this propensity of hunger satisfying to desire to be done for a time until one is full, and then to stop; represents its propensity to do on-off cycling as opposed to constant medium intensity doing (as is found in the 'rest' plan to be discussed shortly), in finding medium ability and also choosing the balance of group vs component entity. So the better plan is to have the 'one' area support the 'other' area. But both plans are workable under many situations, and both can be done at one's discretion, mix and match, just that the 'other' plan is more advantageous. However, since hunger satisfying has the propensity to do on-off type of cycling; since the more advantageous plan represents the 'off' part of the cycle, or leads to the 'off' part of the cycle; we need to do an equal amount of the 'on' part of the cycle (which is the not so advantageous plan of direct hunger satisfying) at first. -This doing of an 'on', 'off' cycle, represents a choice for both the group entity and individual or component entity. Of course, doing a constant amount of a moderate intensity hunger satisfying (and not cycling on and off), also represents this same choice. But for the same reason that we allow some conservatism to exist (which is to allow individual areas to develop mostly free of the interferences from, and constraints of, the other areas, for a time; we also do the 'on', 'off' cycling for this same reason. But we do not eternally allow individual areas to be free from the constraints of each other; but instead, bring them all together as one so that we may assemble each individual area together as a coherent unit to consolidate the gains made in the individual units into a more powerful whole; whence we alternate back and forth between allowing individual components more freedom vs putting them all together (where they experience each others constraints, and thus have less freedom), so as to generate the maximum and best possible life/power/and ability. xx Now, these plans require constant monitoring to coordinate the 'one' area with the 'other' or vice versa, to keep one of them at medium ability. But when we rest, what then? Well, a good rest plan, is to just do the first scenario mentioned. That is, use one area to bring both areas to medium ability, and let them sit like this. Sure, losses to the high parts bring these areas to less than medium ability, but they automatically stabilize at points slightly below medium, and still deliver some production to the high parts; comparable to the active plans because with the active plans, one of the areas is moved well off medium ability towards barren, in order to put the other area at medium ability. Xx Come to think of it, both these active plans put an area near barrenness, from which we can knock it down into barrenness in order to bring the complimentary area to richness without doing much damage to the area, because it is already near barren, so that any amount of destructiveness to it doesn't bring it any lower than barren. We don't stay in this state long, but just use it as a transition to get to the rest state, by lowering the rich area to medium, thereby raising the barren area also to medium (both of which then proceed to loose to the high parts (in both areas), but stabilizes shortly, just a little below medium, for each area. And from this state, we can then favor the one area at medium, or favor the other area at medium, whichever way we choose. If we tried to achieve this rest state directly, it wouldn't work. With the 'one' area near barren, and the 'other' area at medium; if we did the hunger action that uplifted the 'one' area and at the same time brought down the 'other' area, we would end up with both areas between medium and barren, and would not be able to bring both areas up to medium. xx So I suppose I should run through one cycle of hunger satisfying. First we might do a fairly robust hunger satisfying, with the 'other' area taking damage and listing towards barren so that the 'one' area may remain at medium while also loosing to the high parts. Then as we start to become full, or this present stage starts to become complete, we raise the 'one' area to richness and completely loose the 'other' area to barrenness (for just a short transition time); so that we can then lower the 'one' area to medium, which also brings the 'other' area up to medium, and we continue lowering the 'one' area even lower (pretty low) so that the 'other' area is now favored, and this makes up for losses to the high parts that the 'other' area incurs while it is at medium. We continue on like this until the present stage is finished or we are satisfied and wish to stop hunger satisfying action. (Just realize that once the 'one' area has been brought low, that we cannot raise it again without totally decimating the 'other' area to barrenness; seeing how this configuration is for supporting the 'other' area at medium. Instead, we must go completely to nothing with the 'one' area for a transition time, which allows the 'other' area to raise to richness, whence it will then be lowered to medium when we raise the one area from nothingness to medium. So that if the cycle period for on is different than for off, that will just have to be made up in the next cycle.) Next we lower the 'one' area completely to barrenness and continue to favor the 'other' area until it rises from medium to rich; whence we leave that transition by bringing the 'other' area back down from rich to medium, which also raises the 'one' area up to medium. From this 'rest' state, we no longer need to cycle in on-off mode, and can just do medium intensity instead; until the next time we become hungry. Xx Note that superimposed upon all this, is that for every action we do in a hunger satisfying mode; and also every action we do in an 'abstinent' mode, we do a kind of shepherding action with our Jesus representation (generated previously from our rest period where we did not favor any on or off state and did our human actions at a medium level), to keep the human area away from the high parts, and to keep all evils away from the human area. Xx Note that when doing the on-off cycle, we have to constantly monitor it and work with it to keep it generating material for the high parts; while in the constant medium rest state, none of this close supervision is needed. So that it is costly to keep up a commitment for just one mate (which represents the high intensity 'on' part of a cycle, followed by 'off' parts in this cycling); so that one should minimize the time they exalt one person above others, for the time that they need that; but should return to equality between all peoples in the rest state once that need is satisfied. xxxxxxxxxxxxx So how would we build a super entity? First we consider who we are and what resources we have. We are unbalanced individuals who have our best part that is contributed to the societal entity, but we are also made up of other parts that are lesser and much less competent, that we don't much depend on, but instead, depend on other people's best parts of the societal entity to supply. It is these inferior and rarely used parts of us that represent the common material that we must bulk up on and make duplicate copies of in order to generate super entities and a partially separate entity. As we can see, this would be easier if we were more self sufficient, and that our imbalance hinders us from doing. Even so, the amount of partially separate entity is fairly small in comparison to our size; -we are only able to make a small or miniature entity due to that it requires massive amounts of the material we are weakest in. But even though small or miniature, maybe we should still do it, since it brings us together as one, yet still able to hold onto some individuality; in an imperfect world where we are often cut off from one another in an imperfect society. Just realize that the more self sufficient and less imbalanced we are, the more of this super and partially separate entity that we can make. Xxxxxxxxx NUANCES OF THE NOW DEFUNCT IMBALANCED METHOD: Note that with CC, in addition to the crippled societal entity which serves to purify individuals in their hungers; an additional, fully functional, high ability societal entity would be needed along side, to actually fulfill the duties of a societal entity; and represent freedom from all evil, and the high parts. Because not all actions are the intertwined human hunger actions; and some actions are actually evil free actions not part of human hungers, which seek to do good in the world. So with CC, a crippled societal entity exists along side a fully functional societal entity. But with the other plan that uses maximized individuality and minimized societal entity; one cannot satisfy human hungers, and do effective societal, work, actions at the same time. One can satisfy human hungers with a weak societal entity, but then adjust the societal entity to be much more dominant so that one can do effective work actions; but one would think one could not do both simultaneously. Yet, let me convince you otherwise. When one, as a human being, is smitten with the human hunger loves, then one acts with maximized individuality and minimized societal (work) entity. The unbalanced productions that one creates, are mainly isolated from each other and any societal entity, and are not put to much use here. Since the societal entity is not very prevalent, there is still plenty of room for a societal entity, seeing how there is so much of this rich isolated unbalanced productions just laying around, unused. But any human who is under the spell of human loves, should not be part of such, as the richness in it would cause them to be burnt down (due to the evil intertwined in this human hunger). However, at medium ability, these human hungers eventually free themselves from their intertwined evil, and become evil free. It is only when human minds experience this human hunger, and work it out into evil free status, that they can make a societal (work) entity out of all this rich unbalanced isolated material laying around. And at the same time, parts of that human mind that are smitten, but not yet evil free, do act to avoid most societal entity (work) structures, and do ruminate with their this human hunger until it has become evil free. Only when it has become evil free and joined the high parts, does it then come and participate in major societal entity actions with this latent rich material generated from the smitten human hunger stage. So, although the advice to young people, is to buckle down and do their work; the wise thing to do, is not be so attached to work, (which is the societal entity); but to minimize work (the societal entity) until one has ruminated out their human hungers, and is then ready for major societal entity (work) activity. xx Since teenagers are just being smitten for the first time, they haven't had a chance to work out these human hungers. So that putting them in either a rich, or barren environment, traps these human hungers as they are, and prevents the intertwined evil from being worked out. So the tough love taken to the extreme (and the resulting barren environment), does no good; and does not allow the intertwined evil to be worked out, thus keeping the person enslaved to this hunger. Just as solitary confinement for prisoners, also doesn't rehabilitate well, due to its barren environment. xx And one can have parts of themselves in the smitten zone, which are avoiding most work; and parts that have become evil free human hungers, and just evil free parts, that take on the work, and are part of a heavier presence in the societal (work) entity. The thing you don't want to do, is take the advice to be more productive and get down to work, when that part of you is under a human hunger that has not worked itself into evil free; because all that does is just burn you down. Do not take their calls to get off welfare and become productive. No, shove them away, and avoid most work. Until YOU are ready. And not until. Thank you. Tell those villains to lay off. Spouting about how much you owe the society you are in. Do it for me. Thank You. They give work a bad name. This brings up a point about casting off all evils from human hungers. Who is going to do it. The person or part in the human hunger is not going to be able to do it, because they have a minimized 'work' entity. It must be done by another part of themselves that although is sogp, and not part of the high parts, still has a hefty presence of the 'work' entity, and therefor has already worked out that human hunger into evil free, or isn't so involved in that human hunger at this time. Just realize that from the perspective of a human hunger part, not to depend on doing this oneself, but to also look to outside help for it. In passing, also realize that although the sogp that casts off evils off of human hungers, is quite capable (due to its heavy presence of societal (work) entity; that it voluntarily keeps itself away from the also capable high parts (that are also into a goodly portion of the societal (work) entity. And also realize that any sogp that is actually doing or generating in the human hunger action, has become weakened, because it must avoid most societal (work) entity. xxxxxxxxx Note that material that has worked out its human hungers into evil free, and/or other high parts; have the balance between the individual entity and the societal entity that is normal and not skewed to generate imbalance for the purification of human hungers. xxxxxxxxxxxx Now, I have realized that there is a profound difference between the sexes; so that by 'different', this means that men and women are good at different things; so that when they(men and women), as unbalanced individuals, do come together, they are thus more balanced. Normally this would be a good thing, but since we are dealing with the imperfect human hunger of human sexuality, this loss of imbalance hurts the couple's ability to purify that human hunger, by allowing them to generate a rich environment instead of being hindered down to medium ability by imbalance. So the concern is not so much whether ones partner stays true to one, vs, being promiscuous (promiscuity representing the mixing of many types, resulting in a more societal type entity with a corresponding loss of imbalance); but whether or not there is any connection between a man and a woman of any kind; as any kind of connection causes a reduction from off of their individual imbalances. -imbalances which are needed to purify this human hunger. So that the saying 'you can't live with them and you can't live without them' as referring to the opposite sex, rings true; and one needs to seek a medium or a limited connection to the opposite sex to make it work. So that one may need to isolate from their mate and generate in that isolation for a time, before joining their mate in a limited way, to achieve the medium ability needed to purify their dealings with their mate. (In achieving isolation with generatings involving ones mate; one doesn't destroy the part that is of ones mate, but just removes it from this entity that is oneself, and delivers it to ones mate.) (Realize that the emphasis on making sure spouses don't cheat, and remain true, is just a diversion and takes one's attention off of what it needs to be on: and that is carefully managing any connection between the sexes, including true and non cheating connections of husband and wife.) Xxxxx Note that this realization means that although the marriage structure provides an incentive to find a mate who is just like oneself; that this is impossible to completely achieve due to the inherent differences between male and female; even if based on the identical genetic material. END NUANCES. End important inserts) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Conservative societies put in place the expectations in the relations between men and women that they expect their mates or boy/girlfriends not to cheat. But human sexuality the way it comes naturally, is what it is, and it is not in line with this conservative way. It must be corralled and molded so as to be in line with the conservative way. And then so many people are disappointed when their spouse or boy/girlfriends don't live up to the expectations of being true only to them. When human sexuality, the way it comes naturally, doesn't conform to this at all. These conservatives just try and force natural human sexuality to conform to these standards, and is it any wonder that these conservative expectations are not met. What's the deal here? Why sex at all? Many of the lower life forms such as worms and fungi reproduce by cloning, or asexual reproduction where they make exact copies of each other. But higher life forms seem to enjoy the greater genetic variability of sexual reproduction so that their offspring are not exact copies of each other. The way human sexuality comes naturally is a result of many eons of evolution; or that they were created that way. Who are humans to take charge and change what evolution or creation has created? What is the reasoning or understanding behind such an action? (Perhaps the conservative way won't pass the test of evolution, given eons of time.) The conservatives are not much on reasoning, but are more toward take it by faith, and we told you to do it, so do it (just because we said so, and we know best, don't question us). Truly, it can be said that we know not what we do when we corral human sexuality off its natural course, into some contrived conservative mold. Untamed sexuality causes chromosomes and genetic material to be well mixed so that there is increased variability spread over the whole population. But with the conservative way of sexuality, that genetic material doesn't get mixed as well. From this results family groupings where each family is good at one thing, but not very good at anything else; since men and women with like interests (that they are good at), tend to remain together. Whereas with free flowing sexuality, these traits would be shared throughout the society and everyone would be good at all things, (or not). But with conservative sexuality, family groupings exist where each group is good in one area, but not in other areas. This forces them to join together and participate as a greater societal whole, where each good area can work together in an effective all encompassing good; because as individuals, being good at only one or a few things, makes for a bad life as an individual. This requires that they join together with each individual contributing his/her talent that they are good at. This is great for those who run the society as they have a ready supply of forced labor, as there is no other realistic alternative but to join the greater society in order to function effectively. But keeping the individuals weak, and in need of joining the ruling societal group; strikes me as a weakness, and not a wise way to go, in the long term evolutionary picture. But this conservative sexuality way, sure works well for those who wish to harness and enslave others for their benefit. Just don't be surprised when human sexuality, doesn't live up to the expectations of the conservative mold. Why should it?, that's not what it is. Note that a woman who is looking for happiness through marriage to a man, will be disappointed as no one man has all areas mastered well. But with the occasional harem of the Arab world, and polygamy; the genetic material can be spread around a little more. But this is all for the benefit of society's satisfaction of its sexually based need. -One society type sees the value of generating more well rounded individuals (at least occasionally); while the other society type seeks to keep its individuals unbalanced and severely beholding to it. In considering which came first, the chicken or the egg: realize that whatever came first, the life forms here had to go through many generations of sexual reproduction. Let us consider the nuances of sexual reproduction itself. When organisms utilize sexual reproduction,the offspring are not exactly the same. Differences arise. When conservative sexuality is applied, those differences are not allowed to equalize back through the whole population. Hence with longstanding conservative sexuality, different races are created, (because eventually the differences (from sexual reproduction that are not permitted to be spread through the whole population) become so great that a new race is created). Hence conservative sexuality is a cause of racism (or at least provides for its continuation) because it creates the situation of different races living side by side. By not allowing differences from sexual reproduction to spread back throughout the whole population; not all the possibilities are tried, and less possible combinations of genes are tried. With less combinations tried, sexual reproduction is weaker at generating different combinations that may survive the tempests that nature or our own destructiveness throws at us. Some mock that others feel they are entitled to this or that. And this is understandable because even with all the hard work these people do, they have to fight management tooth and nail to be entitled to the pay they do receive. -So that how could one who does no work at all ever hope to receive/be entitled to anything? But, now a call to all the self starters out there/ self start this: The conservative way breeds individuals who are helpless by themselves unless they conform and meld together into the societal group. Yet it is the conservatives who emphasize individual responsibility and blame individuals for what goes wrong in society. And it is the conservatives who squawk so loudly about the welfare and how that is sapping society so. Really, people helpless of taking care of themselves and in need of welfare is just a product of the conservative's own breeding policy, and they really have no right to complain about it, as it is them that caused the problem of helpless individuals in the first place. All this is just a jab at us all to conform to the societal will and cause no dissent; because if we do, we will be cast out of the societal way and find ourselves as helpless individuals, needing welfare. These threats by the conservative way for us to conform are not in line with the promise of freedom proclaimed by the American way. Hence, in this respect, going with the conservative way absolutely, all the time, is decidedly Un American. (Land of the free, home of the brave? We are certainly not free when absolutely under the conservative way.) xxxxxx Yet perhaps there is value in allowing a (family) group to develop and perfect an area in freedom from being overly burdened by the demands of other areas. However, at some point in time, the advancements gained in the disparate areas need to be put together, in order for this type of way to be a better way. Some may say that the occasional marriage by people of different best skills, (in order that the couple may compliment each other so as to survive better) will do this mixing. However, I disagree since the rulers of the society have grown to depend on the separation of skills (so that people are very good at only one area) so that the population is forced to conform to their dictates (or be cast out and be a helpless individual in need of welfare); as a means of control over the society. Hence mixing of these skills and assembling them all together is not allowed, and is sought to be prevented. This holds us back and does not make this way a better way. So, although there may be a place for some conservatism; it is no good for there to be absolute conservatism or to have it all the time. In this imperfect area, there is no place for absolutes of any kind. And while I am recanting positions, let me recant somewhat my opposition to the conservative breeding program that creates unbalanced individuals that aren't self sufficient by themselves. Yes, perhaps as a safeguard to governments and individuals who would generate large quantities of self sufficient people who would be devoted to doing evil/destruction; does the safeguard of being helpless as individuals have some use. In other words: combining the concept of that when there is evil, we should seek a medium ability environment; with when there is an abundance of humans in an evil environment, they are treated poorly and are food for evil (whereas if there is a shortage of them, this would force better treatment of them). I would state that the unbalanced individual is the medium environment sought. So that if some government or individual woman wanted to overproduce humans so as to use them as fodder for their evil/destructive designs, that they could not easily produce complete humans, but would be limited to incomplete humans. But if we as individuals are to give up our self sufficiency in order to provide this safeguard and medium ability environment in a world full of evil, then we need much more to ensure that we individuals have a vote over the greater society (that we as individuals create in coming together); so that this greater society that we defer to doesn't then turn around and screw us, as now non-self-sufficient individuals. Our responses can vary widely depending on how much evil there is in our environment. The presupposition here is that there is evil in the environment, hence the individual needs to be at medium ability by making him/her less than self sufficient. But if this is so, then no one entity should have all the power (neither the individual, nor the greater society), and all entities should have checks and balances on each other and be at medium ability. That vote the individual should have over the greater society that bosses him/her, is by allowing we as individual couples to have unfettered say over how many offspring we have. -That we have many offspring in a good situation where there is no evil; -That we have a limited number where there is some evil; and that we have few offspring where the greater society is mostly all evil and is treating us badly. So that the conservative attempts at stopping birth control and violating women's ability of choice over to have or not have an offspring; are much out of place. And also, the conservative breeding program can be enacted quite successfully enough by limiting its rules only to having children; and need not burden us by extending their coverage to our sexual expressions outside of having/creating children. Now then, I am changing my mind again. This latest idea makes no sense. The idea is that the individual needs to be at medium ability because there is evil, and hence should be less than self sufficient, and that if we let the individual be of high ability and self sufficient, the governmental groups of these people will be used more so to do more destruction. The problem is is that no mater whether the individual is self sufficient, or not, the greater society or government is able to put together the individual strengths of less than self sufficient peoples to obtain high power anyway, and that the only entity that high power is denied, is the individual. So that it makes no difference (there is no gain or loss) to the greater society whether the individual is self sufficient or not, concerning what level the society is at -always high level, not medium level. And the less than self sufficient individuals run the risk of being at low level, not medium level because of their lack of self sufficiency. (And low level is not any good in an evil situation either.) An individual needs to be self sufficient in order to be at medium ability in these situations. A greater society made of self sufficient individuals would be more powerful than any individual self sufficient individual; so that it takes self sufficient individuals to achieve medium ability in this situation, whereas non self sufficient individuals would be at low ability in this situation (which is undesirable). -And that no mater what; the greater society is at high ability irregardless of whether the individual is self sufficient, or is less than self sufficient. So once again, I now change again and dissolve any allegiance to the conservative breeding program that breeds less than self sufficient individuals. I may say, that there is a place for the conservative way in order to allow development of the different areas without undue interference from each other; but that it should not be allowed to be the absolute boss. And the conservative way tempts greater societies to use their individuals and consume their individuals as fodder because it forces them to conform due to their lack of self sufficiency. I have made argument that where there is evil/destruction, we should seek to make that environment at medium ability so as to encourage separation of the forces. But this is only if there is some goodness trapped herein that needs separating from the evil. If the good has already separated from the evil; do not continue to intervene to keep the all-evil at medium ability. If an area has only evil, then allow that evil, now alone and by itself, to burn the medium environment down to barren so that it will then cease to exist: thus taking advantage of that good can exist while alone but evil can't. In another out of place insert, I just want to say that with all this considering of gray areas and all the nuances of how to handle gray areas: -Not every area is a gray area. That there ARE areas that CAN be separated into wholly good components, and wholly destructive components. And that here, the advisements of how to handle gray areas, don't apply. That here, we DO separate the components into separate areas `of black and white'; and that doing so here is good. Consider `rules' over these non gray areas: Rules don't allow the `bad' to exist at all. They create a vacuum (which high forces of good fill to medium ability, (in a special way that prevents their purity from being compromised)). But the action of separation DOES allow both the bad, and the good, to exist: -just in different, separate areas. -Even the gray actions are separated away from the all-good (due to their badness that partially makes them up); (so that the ability of the all-good to contact the good parts of gray actions is tentative at best). So that when you're not satisfying some human (gray action) need that has good and destruction inseparably intertwined; you can commit your main center to absolute goodness (Jesus, God, Ala, etc), which as a base part of it, has separation of all good from all evil/destruction. (Only when satisfying an earthly need, need you be open to the destructiveness from gray areas.) Through separation, the evil/destruction still exists and is not eliminated, but it is separate from the rest of you/your goodness; where it does not bother nor consume your all -goodness. (and it soon self consumes itself and disappears). (Note that freedom/separation from evil/destruction is just a base part. The goodness then acts to grow perfect goodness, which then matures, etc, (as detailed elsewhere in this writing).) Let me reiterate this in a different way: Some actions are human gray actions which contain both good and destructiveness inextricably intertwined. And around our human gray actions have grown up rules governing the expression of our human gray actions. These rules do not eliminate the destructiveness in our gray actions, but instead just rearrange where it is done and put a structure to where the destructive part is done. These rules themselves then also tie to themselves the fact that they are not totally free of destructiveness either. But not all actions/areas are these human gray actions. -Some actions CAN be separated completely into that which is good vs. that which is destructive. And in these non-gray areas exists a purity of action in that they are either all good or all destructive, that does not exist with the gray actions. (As we know, when an all destructive area is generated, it soon consumes itself and disappears; thus leaving only pure all-good areas.) Thus there can exist structures with an absolute purity in their action, and also other structures which are always impure and can never be pure in their 'human' actions. For a human gray action say of satisfying a human hunger, to join with these NON gray areas would be a pollution of the pure good area and a torment as the evil in the gray action would grow rapidly in the rich environment of the all good area. But the rules over the gray actions are also likewise impure, and for them to join the all good area would be the same result. Human sinners know that they are impure and know better not to join the pure all good areas. But rule enforcers over gray areas may mistakenly aspire to be godly and see themselves as joining the all good, but they also must be separated away from the all good to maintain the purity of the all good, as these rule enforcers are as impure as the sinners they enforce against. Yes, there are areas that are non gray and are absolute good within us. And we keep these separate from every(all) destructiveness, including destructiveness of our gray human hunger satisfying, as well as the also destructive enforcers of rules over the gray areas. These all good areas are not only separate from destructions, they are also our engines of growth into perfection. These all good areas are even in addition to this, are also givers of goodness unto only medium ability in a one way gift to the gray areas, in order for those in the gray area to work their way out of the gray and into the all good. But of course, there is no gift of medium ability to any all destructive part. -only to where there is some good is there a gift to medium ability. Now when a human situation exists which needs the intervention of the all good to supply a one way gift to bring to medium ability; the all good then splits a small part off. The reason the part split off is small, is to represent that the all good is to be kept at high ability, while the one way gift is only for bringing to medium ability. And not only is the splitting done; the smaller one way gift also must leave and become separate from the all good area; since it is to enter an area where there is some evil, and that the all good area must be kept separate from. So, although the small gift part leaves and separates away, and in the arena containing some evil, brings things to medium ability, where the life there darts about and avoids and tries to run away and to obtain separation from the evil; the main part which is all good, remains and stays and holds its ground and does not run away because it has already obtained freedom and separation from evil. xxxxxxxxx Skip this SEGMENT the first read, -too complicated: Looking at the human area , in the satisfying of a human hunger: the one way gift to medium ability causes: -The area of human hunger can proceed for awhile in medium ability. -Then to generate and share existence with a regulatory action (also of medium ability) to remove all of the godly part to God (due to a maturation process); and soon after that to generate and share existence with a second regulatory action (also sharing medium ability from the medium ability gift) which in response to the havoc caused by the first regulatory action, to take the remaining now incomplete matured human parts which had godly parts removed from them, to only partially take these incomplete matured human parts and meld them together with complete matured human parts, so as to only partially restore their function of satisfying a human hunger. Here is another segment that is best skipped due to its overly complex nature: Then there are the times when our smaller split off part is in a lull, where not much is going on in the generating of human/gray area parts. It then may turn its attention on generating all good parts, to the best that it is able. (Those all good parts are more pure and more all encompassing of every good thing than it is). As the all good is generated, it is generated as also devoting a part of its new self to also generating new all good parts, so that eventually, the smaller split off part has to bear less of the load of generating all good parts. But then, all of a sudden, the lull is over, and new action in the human/gray area appears that is needed. It is the purpose and function of the smaller split off part to deal with the imperfect human gray area, not the all good area. In this imperfect, impure, and non absolute area of the human/gray areas; there is one absolute: and that is when a new, lull breaking human need appears, the smaller split off part (which had been distracted into generating the all good), then removes all (not just part, all) of the young all good material that is destined for all good, but which had not matured into that yet, away from the human area and human generating; to the best of its ability. -However, it must share this directive with also, in a reasonable time frame, to generate in the human needs area. -Just that this smaller split off part itself, doesn't at all mix the new generating of human needs, with its distraction generating of the all good, especially the immature all good that just happens to be caught when the lull is broken. -It ejects this away from itself before beginning the lull breaking human need generating. Xxxxx Note that the newly generated mature all good can break a small part of itself off to be its contribution to the smaller split off part, and thus add material to help this situation here. End SKIPPED SEGMENTS When there has grown up around our gray actions of satisfying human hungers; absolute rules that bring an absolute nature to how we are allowed to do gray actions (ie; as when Christians go about destroying all things sexual outside of what they have allowed); then as I have previously stated, those absolute rules need to be smashed down to medium, to no longer be absolute, so that medium environments are favored over patchworks of rich and barren. However, such an action to do so, is also an impure action that also contains destruction; -as is also, the enforcement of absolute rules over these gray actions is; -as is also, the gray actions of satisfying human hungers itself, are. So that although the high good wants to fill to medium ability, the vacuums created by these absolute rule enforcers; the high good is sometimes unable to do so directly due to the contamination to itself that would bring. The high good, then does so indirectly by splitting off a small part of itself in this one way gift mechanism to do this*; much like God the Father split off a Son, Jesus, to come to the impure earth, and smash down the absolute nature of the Jewish rules over living everyday life,/ the works of the devil. When there exists a human gray action (which has good and evil inseparably in it), the one way gift maintains it at medium ability, in a medium environment. But if in addition, there is an evil/destructive action that can be separated away; I mean, who is going to separate a human gray action with some good to it from a destructive action with no good in it? All-good actions have separation from all evil, but a human gray action is inseparable from its inherent evil, thus any all-good action would risk being contaminated by evil if it attempted to save a(n impure) human action from another, all evil action.(-the all evil action feeding off the good in the human action). And of course, this is where the one way gift of -and-to medium ability comes in. Realize that the goal of the one way gift(also referred to as 'sogp'), is to help the good in the human action obtain separation from evil - by providing a medium ability environment/level, and doing whatever else is needed for that directive, such as removing it from other all evil actions that are using it as food. When the human action is freed/removed from the all evil action; the all evil action is then alone, and without food, consumes itself and disappears. Let me restate this. Some actions are human actions, containing growth and destruction inseparably within them. But not all actions are human actions, and some actions can be separated completely into all good, and all destructive components. And when they are separated, the all good components are separate from the all destructive components. This puts a hurt on the all -destructive components because when alone they consume themselves and disappear. But if they can find some human actions, they can continue to survive by feeding off the good in the human action. And who would separate an all-destructive component away from a human action (which also contains some destruction)? The human action is inescapably (at this level) contaminated with some destruction. No immediate purification is obtained by separating a human action from an all destructive action which is feeding on the good in it, as the human action still has some destruction no mater if it is separated from the all-destructive or not. And any all -good action would contaminate itself trying to do this. So, this is where the small one way gift comes in: to not only bring out of the vacuum of barrenness and nothingness unto medium ability, but also to separate human actions from all-destructive actions that are feeding on them: thereby causing the all destructive actions to self consume and disappear: paving the way for the contaminated but now medium ability life to work its way out of its contamination and eventually obtain freedom from destruction. The evil within human actions is difficult to separate away. But the evil from an all-evil action that is feeding on the good in a human action, is not so difficult to separate away, provided the one separating it away isn't concerned about being contaminated. One might not say that the rules (religious and societal) over human gray actions are all destructive and are feeding off the gray actions, because no matter what you do to a gray action (whether destroy it all, partially destroy it, or do no destroying to it), you end up with some good and some destruction. But this is just a matter of semantics, because the end result is just the same. The rules act to cause patchworks of rich and barren; the rich are burned down to barren by the destruction always present within gray actions, leaving only barren. In only barren environments, the good and destructive are forced to be together. Destructiveness has been fed, and its survival is ensured and there is no hope of eventually getting away from it. So that even though it was the destruction from the gray action that did the actual destroying of the rich areas created: it was the rules that formed the environment so that this and nothing but this would happen. And being barren is a result of all destructive things and is what they produce. So that the all destructive is bred, fed, and grown out of the human gray actions, and does feed on the human gray actions; as caused by the rules. Because of the rules, the all destructive does feed on the human gray actions and thus does not self eliminate. But if the small gift comes and separates the all destructive from the human gray actions; then that all destructive WILL self eliminate. Jesus will do what the rules (the religious/societal law) never will. *Note that rules use destruction, and that the result of destruction is a vacuum. High good will not fill these vacuums, even though it is the input of good, and that the high good also has the necessary life making it up; -due to the loss of purity in this area due to the impurity of the destructiveness from the rules. But to the smaller one way gift, this vacuum not only has its input, (and it still has enough ability making it up to do good to this vacuum even though it is smaller than the rest of the all-good), and finally, this vacuum is no threat to purity as it isn't primarily concerned about purity: thus it is these smaller one way gifts that make use of these vacuums created by rules. God the Father does not come down in power to fill these vacuums; instead, Jesus the meek Son comes down to fill these vacuums. And the parts of us that are meek inside of us, which are split off our high good areas, should also do the same, in our world. Note that although some destroying of rules is done; the majority actions used here are not the use of destruction, but are the use of creative abilities of goodness and growth, to put something of medium ability into where these vacuums and nothingness once were. When we start out, we have a high good area part that is (almost) totally separate from any human-hunger -satisfying-gray-action. But this isn't actually the case, as our gray areas do have a small one way piece that was once from the high good area, and still gets small replenishments from the high good area. Still, the connection to the human gray area is tentative at best. But we do have major parts of the high-good-area-of-us, that are not newly generated(thus have already given their contribution to the small one way gift), that are totally separate from any human hunger satisfying gray action. These parts have tremendous growth, but they are against a barrier in that they don't posses any of these gray areas, evil free, at high good, but only have themselves at high good. And high good is always trying to bridge barriers and do more growth. It is the small one way gift of us that gets it on in the gray areas, so that it isn't fair to say that the high good has always been aloof and has no contact with the gray areas, as the small one way gift which began as high good material, does come and have contact with the gray areas. Here, it casts away absolutely, all evil that can be separated away in the gray areas, but doesn't try to cast out evil that is part of the gray actions, as that is not obtainable at this time. It also generates material to medium ability for the vacuums in the gray areas caused by destruction in the gray areas (doing so first in isolation, then releasing that material to the whole of the gray area). The point I'm trying to make here is that while doing human hunger satisfying in the gray areas with the small one way gift part of oneself; to remember not to draw the established high good parts of oneself into this, but to at this same time, keep them completely separate from this (and to block any impure or all evil action from trying to get to the high good). Eventually, because of the small one way gift's doings in the gray areas, the good in that will work its way out of the gray areas and separate from the evil that was once unseperatable, and will join the high good parts. Hence the high good parts will at this later time, have bridged their barrier, and will have range over not only their high good area, but also over the purified gray area material. When our gray, human parts plus one way gift parts of ourself are satisfying a human hunger, there is simultaneously a coordinated effort between the high-good -non-gray parts of ourself, and our one way gift, to keep the high parts completely separate/ away from these impure(contaminated with destruction) imperfect human/gray hunger satisfying actions. Whatever part of us is made of high-good-evil-free parts will be opting away from any human hunger satisfying, while at the same time our human parts and one way gift will be doing the human hunger satisfying actions/cycle. These two directives (one of human hunger satisfying -to medium satisfaction; and the other of getting away from human hunger satisfying and not doing any human hunger satisfying) do not despise each other, but instead, work and coordinate together so that each may coexist, mainly (but not completely) separate from each other, within us. (This starts to get too complex) Let me take this to the next level (up a notch). This is kind of a recipe for human hunger satisfying. Keeping in mind that we are composed of both all good areas, and also human gray areas; we see that we cannot apply one set of rules to us, but must differentiate between what is all good, and what is gray, in us. The first order of business when satisfying a human hunger, is to remove the all-good parts of us from that. and that includes the purified parts from a previous satisfaction of that human hunger. Then we satisfy the human hunger with our remaining human parts. Here are some suggestions for that: Note that the small(er) one way gift (or Jesus representation within us) does generate human material in isolation, and then releases that material to the larger human hunger satisfying area. The purpose of this is to limit exposure to the destruction in human material so that the gift can keep some semblance of high capability and limit the compromise of its purity. Taking this idea to the next level, we can have more than just one level of separation, but multiple levels of separation, like the layers of an onion; and thereby generate a spread of varying levels and togetherness of human materials in this human hunger satisfying. SKIP THIS SEGMENT THE FIRST READ. So how do we create the different levels? Well, this starts with how we, (or the one way gift), can variably release material it generates to other less pure levels of the human area. There is a difference in how an evil is cast out vs how we satisfy a hunger. (After our all good parts are removed and not participating in this): when the one way gift is casting out an all-evil, the casting out action it generates in separation, is totally delivered to the human area to completely cast out the evil that can be cast out and removed from the human hunger satisfying. But when the one way gift is generating material for human hunger satisfying, it need not release all of it to the human area, but can leave half of it unreleased, still in separation. The reasoning behind this is that forces of good like to generate material, but it is not good if too much material is generated so as to be at high capability in this human area. So, if the one way gift leaves some material unreleased to the human area, it will still maintain medium ability, as the extra material will be separated away from it by a barrier. And the one way gift will have gotten to do what it likes to do, that is to generate material and fill voids. And this can be carried between the levels. As enough material coalesces in a human level to allow for increased generation of human material, some of that material can be released to a new area, while the rest of that material can remain behind; so that we have two levels of medium ability as opposed to one level at high ability. This is how we generate new levels. At this point the two levels are the same. But then the one way gift, which is of the highest ability of any of the levels, because it is the most separate from destruction; generates a small fragment, which is the next step in the human hunger satisfying, and releases half of it to only one of the two levels. Now the two levels are no longer the same. The level with the next step as well as all the previous steps, is now a more corrupted, and also a more satisfied level. The one way gift then leaves the half of the fragment that was not released, so as to generate another fragment that is the next step after that which was the next step, so as to release half of it to the broadest most all inclusive level of human hunger satisfying. And the addition of this next step material causes this level to generate more whereby it creates another level by releasing half of itself to another area. And this keeps going on till the human hunger is satisfied in only the final broadest level. This way all the possibilities are generated, and a complete spread of all levels of ability are generated, so that if the final level that had a complete human hunger satisfied, does burn itself down, or is purified and leaves the human area to be with the all good; there is still a human area at medium ability, which is more than a vacuum that is left behind. And the one way gift does leave each of the previous fragments in order to generate the next new fragment, so as to limit its exposure to the destruction in the human action, so that it can remain at semi high capability, so that it can generate the needed fragments that the more corrupted levels cannot due to their greater exposure to destruction from the human action. Note that it is easy for the one way gift to release, and also to remove itself from these fragments because they don't represent what it directly needs; and in fact their removal and absence DOES keep the one way gift at semi high ability, (higher than any of the other levels) and is therefore a positive thing for it. This is hard for the more corrupted, broader levels of the human action to understand, as they value the final fragments they receive, which they aren't able to produce sufficiently on their own due to their greater exposure to destruction. But, then, they aren't asked to give up these final fragments anyway, like the one way gift does. They should realize that the one way gift does not value these fragments to the extent and intensity that they do. The casting out an all evil from a human hunger satisfying may be more difficult in some situations. After the all good is removed from this, the one way gift then does this. It can do so by first generating casting out action in isolation, then half of the one way gift releases part of its production (say half) of it to the broad human area. But before it releases all of it, the one way gift then retreats to isolation again (to generate more casting out action). -(Then at this point, the other half of the one way gift comes out of isolation to release its half part, so that the retreating part no longer has the heat/burden focused on it. -Note that this second half of the one way gift that is now coming out of isolation and releasing its half part; also releases (to the broad human area), the half part that the first half of the one way gift failed to release because it was instead retreating to isolation again.) And the two halves of the one way gift cycle back and forth between release from isolation to the broad human area; and retreating to isolation.) This way, the casting out action is mostly all released, as is what the all-evil deserves, but in such a way that the all evil can't get to the one way gift very well, because the one way gift is shielded by casting out action that it is retreating from, with the unreleased casting out action between itself and the all-evil. But that the unreleased casting out action isn't wasted because the other half of the one way gift that is coming out of isolation at this time, uses its released half to also push into release, that previously unreleased material from the other half. Now, with the satisfying of a human hunger, things can get even more complex. Not only do we have the two halves of the one way gift releasing and retreating to and from isolation what they produce. (And note that here, they leave unreleased half parts as unreleased and do not push these into release from the other side like is done for casting out evil, as this is satisfying a human hunger, which is different like this because medium ability is sought.) Not only do we have the two halves of the one way gift doing their cycle, but they can start to deliver their production to different levels that are not the direct recipients of the production, with these other levels then handing that production off to the direct recipient level in a second action. And the one way gift can in time, stack it back so that it is quite far away from the recipient broad human area level. This leaves room for the one way gift halves to generate the next step in the hunger satisfying directly to part of the broad human area, and then to also work even that production back so that it is far away; and so on and so forth till all the steps of the hunger satisfying are generated. And while this is going on, the intelligence part of the broad human area is expanding itself so that different/more (medium ability) levels are generated; whereby the one way gift halves only select part of the expanded broad human area to deliver the latest step in human hunger satisfying. Thus the whole spectrum of human hunger satisfying is generated. Let me go over this again with my newest version. I have kind of gotten away from the 'stacking it back' idea. What I do for human hunger satisfying is, oh yes, first the all-good parts of me removes itself/are removed. But then, the one way gift starts to put into the vacuum of no activity, some activity, so that a medium measure of activity is present. (It of course does so in the two halves, each of which produce in isolation, then deliver out of isolation to the broader hunger satisfying area). But once a medium measure of activity is present, the one way gift removes itself from the broader area. The broader area then goes along, and it usually takes the activity from medium measure, to high. At this point, things break and things give. Some of the material may become evil free, and is then removed from here. Sometimes much of the material becomes corrupted and evil starts to burn it down. At this point, the broader area's intelligence has found its limit, and backs off the high measure back to medium measure, and it does so by expanding itself so it is of larger area doing medium measure, (as opposed to what it was, which was a smaller area doing high measure). This intelligence then chooses a part of itself to split off and become a new level, which commences to do the next step in the hunger satisfying, (leaving the rest of the split to remain as is and to not do the next step). Usually this new next level doing the next step (in the hunger satisfying), is inadequate, and produces insufficient doing of the next step, and it is at low measure. It is at this point when the one way gift which had been aloof, comes back in, and raises this next step from low activity measure, to a medium measure of activity. (And during this time the one way gift part of us actually does this step in the hunger satisfying, in medium activity.) It then again leaves the broader hunger satisfying, leaving the broader hunger satisfying, with the broader area intelligence (which was once a split off part of the one way gift in the beginning, before so many levels were generated), to continue on. And once again, the broader area usually takes this new next step to a high measure of activity. (Once the broader area nears the completion of the hunger satisfying, a larger part of the material can become all good and be removed.) Sometimes this removal causes not much to be left over in the hunger satisfying area. This remnant then falls to way low activity measure. But this doesn't always happen. Sometimes the remnant is of sufficient medium activity measure. But when it does happen, and the remnant is of way low activity measure, it finds itself unable to do much. This is when the intelligence in the broader area is wise to lay still and look to the aloof one way gift part. Yes, in these occurrences, the one way gift breaks from its aloofness, and comes in to replenish back to medium, these way low parts; and then thereafter goes back to being aloof again. Then the broader area grows in area but stays at medium activity. Again, it splits off part of this area to become the next level, and commences doing even the next step in the hunger satisfying only in this new level. Once again, this is inadequate and of low level, and the aloof one way gift comes in again to bring it to medium, and then leaves again to be aloof. And this cycle continues until there are all stages of levels up to and including the complete satisfaction of the human hunger (which often goes to being part of the all good, and removed from this). This is my newest recipe /no longer as it is not near the beginning/. END SKIPPED SEGMENT. Then I am hearing on the history channel how some of the early Christians were preaching absolute celibacy (especially towards women) as the only way to obtain salvation. From what I understand, the Romans killed Jesus because they were trying to prevent rebellion by the Jewish people. And the Jewish people did rebel (unsuccessfully) several times including at Masada during that time period. But obviously, if the roman women didn't have sex, they would also have no offspring. And the roman war machine depended on a goodly supply of offspring to keep it going. -Hence the roman persecution of early Christianity. This act by the Christians was ultimately successful in overthrowing the roman empire where Jewish revolt had failed. And in their time under a mostly evil and cruel empire, the total denial of offspring was the right course to take. But in today's world, this absolute celibacy isn't necessarily the right course any longer. Note that since women are the source of the next generation and they are born with that goodness, they thus become targets of destructive forces seeking life material to feed off of and destroy; and some become corrupted or occupied by such destructive forces. But it's not their fault. They can't help that they are born with this prize that destructive forces of the greater society seek. Some just need the small gift to come and separate off these destructive forces that have found a home here. Perhaps this is why religion sometimes sees women as sources of what is bad, and puts them down. out of place insert: Consider that the many gods of the roman empire are replaced by one God. Consider that the state of having many gods could not be long lasting. A world of many 'gods' all powerful and growing in power, there would not be room enough for them to be separate, but that they would need to get together and cooperate, essentially forming one God, or if unable to get along, annihilating each other with their great power. end insert. But concerning more spiritual matters and spiritual salvation, we can rehash that the sexual area is an imperfect area that contains destruction no mater which way we go, just in different areas. So that when Christian leaders/instigators preach absolute celibacy for salvation, they are just as guilty of sexual destruction as the sinners are. However, a case can be made that the believers who attempt to achieve salvation under such, are blameless and are not guilty of doing any sexual destruction, but that that guilt goes with the leaders who instigated this behavior. Being free of destruction, these believers then have made an all good area in a gray area. However, destruction still exists in this gray area, and these believers still suffer its effects, it is just they are not to blame as its source (others have taken the blame for them). Unfortunately, they are under a structured gray area, due to their rules for obtaining salvation, so that they generate patchworks of rich and barren, resulting in ultimate total consumption of the life in this area due to the force of destruction. What is needed is medium ability in this gray area, and this way hasn't provided that, never mind who is to blame, who is guilt free, etc. So we thank the Christian tradition for overthrowing the roman empire, but realize that this way doesn't help in the imperfect human gray area of human sexuality. The better way to help it pretty much free, is to do as God the Father and Jesus did (do), and that is to split off a small part of the all good area (Jesus), who then separates from the all good area, and comes to the impure human gray areas so as to bring to medium ability. This is the better Christian tradition. But rules over the gray areas; what about them? Since rules contain the use of destruction (to always eliminate any alternative path -which is why there's a vacuum there; (and that destruction is absolute and not a partial destruction, as none of the alternatives are allowed to exist at all) -high good then acts to fill these vacuums to medium level, so that alternatives exist in spite of the rules attempts to eliminate them). But rules over non gray areas; what about them? If we apply the action to separate the all-good from any bad, including any bad of gray actions; then since imperfect rules contain/are sources- of destruction in their action, they are also separated away from the all-good. Imperfect rules then find themselves thrown down to the gray actions and to the destruction only areas. But as we have shown; rules don't help in the gray action area either, and are out of place here too. Why do we have rules? Supposedly to act against destructive elements in society. But rules themselves contain (absolute) destruction inherently as part of their action (in that they eliminate all alternatives but the prescribed path). So rules contain inherently in their action, that which they seek to act against. And if one doesn't know it all and get it exactly right, and the destruction of their rules destroys something other than just what is destructive; then the rules themselves become the source and perpetrator of some destruction. One could end up chasing their tail if they let rules rule their life. If the rules thus introduce what they seek to stamp out (destruction), then they never will be successful at accomplishing what they seek to accomplish: and to an all good part, they are impure and a pollution of an all good part, if joined with it. But the action to separate that which is all-good away from any evil, (including that within gray actions), itself need not be destructive (like rules are); so that this separation action can be a part of and together with that which is all good. It has no contradiction within its own system like the rules way does. Now it is possible for perfect rules to supersede this. But, to do perfect rules, you have to know in depth and in advance, because rules detach one from any other alternative; so that finding perfect rules is nearly impossible in an imperfect rule ridden structure, if you don't already have them; whereas such absolute knowledge is not needed to use the separation method, unlike that it is needed to use the perfect rules method. --------------Wait a minute: there is no such thing as perfect absolute rules in the gray actions, because rules absolutely eliminate alternatives (attempting to achieve bareness there); where what gray actions need is medium ability ie partial elimination of alternatives. Thus there are no absolute perfect rules over gray actions. Let me reiterate that not all parts of us are gray parts, and that these non gray, all good parts of us need to be separate and not participate in the ways of gray parts, but instead participate in their own ways of growth and richness. Also, let me say that in the gray areas, variability is a useful tool for this area to change out of its imperfect state. The use of structure over gray actions, which directs destructive parts to one area, and good parts to another area; can be useful in causing variability. So that instituting absolute anarchy over the gray areas is also unwise. Some structure should be allowed in the gray areas; just that it mustn't be allowed to be absolute. Neither absolute anarchy nor absolute structure seems to be a good idea; but somewhere in between does. END INSERT. In another out of place tangent, I wish to say that I notice that some have taken objection to the Harry Potter books, saying that it promotes witchcraft, and that Christians should be against it. And I also remember as part of our Christian heritage here in the U.S. That historically they had a witch hunt where they actually burned and killed people on suspicion of being witches in Salem. And then of course there is the history of the inquisition where they would accuse one of witchcraft in the middle ages. One thing I wanted to point out was to consider Jesus, the head of the Christian religion. He was a very spiritually active and gifted person. He went about healing people and bringing people back from the dead and it is even reported that he cursed a tree and the next day it died. If such a person had done these things in Salem, or the middle ages, they would have probably been burned at the stake or drowned as a witch; so that Jesus probably would not have been able to survive among these 'Christian' people. Crucified, burned at the stake, drowned; they all just want to kill Jesus (and south park's Kenny). What I am suggesting is that we should not condemn people for being spiritually gifted per sea, but it is what a spiritually gifted person does with their giftedness, either good or evil/destructiveness that we should be paying attention to. There may perhaps be such a thing as witches and witchcraft and voodoo where people use spiritual abilities to do destructive things to others; but such things are not easy to prove as regular murders and assaults are. Without proof, only actions to bring an environment or person to medium ability where destructiveness obviously is present, is warranted in extreme cases; not the absolute destruction of burning at the stake or drowning anyone. Christians really have little new testament basis to be against witchcraft. -it is not a big concern in the new testament narrative. There are no words in the new testament saying to put to death anyone for witchcraft. And lest their own Jesus, or even when one of them speaks in tongues, be considered and condemned as a witch, they really should not be acting destructively where they do not understand. And just because some assholes who called themselves Christians in old Salem, and also in the inquisition, got in a snit and decided to take some old testament writings/rules literally as an excuse to kill people and burn them at the stake, or drown them, doesn't change the fact that the Bible, especially the new testament Bible doesn't really emphasize witchcraft as an impending evil needing attention. So I would ask present day Christians who they are going to follow: -some assholes from old; or the Bible? Another reasoning that may be at work here is that Wicca and paganism were and are competing religions to the Christian religion, and that competing religions often are intolerant of each other. End out of place tangent. But here is another insert: Then there is that incident where the man was arrested for having sex with a dead dog, which some jokester shoves in front of your face. Such a spectacle makes each and every one of us feel like Jesus must have felt when they brought the adulterer woman to his feet and asked him to condemn her. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx As repulsive as it may be; this guy really didn't harm anybody (but himself). The dog wasn't harmed; it was already dead, hit by a car. But the greater society will be guilty of harm for sure, as locking someone up for years, is quite harmful and destructive. So here we will have the greater society being the sole source and perpetrator of certain harmfulness and destructiveness. Kind of makes the greater society out to be no better than a criminal in search of correction. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxx For sure, having sex with a dead dog has no chance of producing viable offspring. Just as gay sex has no chance of producing viable offspring. It seems the greater society of late has taken to being destructive to individual's sexual expression that has no chance of producing viable offspring. We individuals all have sexual desires/needs that we must find ways to slake. But so does the greater society have sexual needs that it needs to fill. It needs to have us individuals have some sexual expression which produces viable offspring, and a family structure for raising those offspring; in order that it may continue past our generation. If the greater society punishes our individual's sexual expression, then perhaps we individuals should punish the greater society's sexual expression. The greater society's sexual expression is for us to have and raise viable offspring through individual sexual expression. To punish that, we avoid having offspring. So it seems that we should slake our individual sexual needs by entirely expressing them without any offspring being produced; so as to punish the greater society's sexual expression; because the greater society is punishing our individual sexual expression: -has taken the position that sexual expression is to be punished; -or is trying to eliminate individual sexual expression that steps outside its needs, and replace it with its own sexual expression; when it is perfectly able to let both exist peaceably. Do not worry when the greater society punishes you for your sexual expression that does not produce offspring. Just realize that as a group of individuals, we shall bring this societal punishment of our sexuality to an end by not having offspring, as that greater society itself thus will be brought to an end. Speaking of mean and cruel societies that need to be brought to an end, I had the chance to be indoctrinated in the ways of some of today's women. At a lunch table, they spoke of the upbringing of their few children and how they were discouraging them from sexual activity until later in life, after they had gotten their college degree and were well off in their careers. Here I see that these women and those like them have not only made our country rich by not having an excessive number of offspring and by limiting the number of their offspring; but that they are trying to pass on this rich way of life so that it may continue. Unfortunately they focus on stamping out individual sexuality of the young in order to achieve this goal; thus spoiling an important part of any good life. So that the good life they seek to pass on, isn't quite as good after all. In fact, if you don't get the college degree and the good job; life is pretty rotten for a lot of people; where a rinky dink boss goes around nit picking and attacking you while you work your butt off for minimum wage. In response to all this rottenness, these women naturally parrot the overall rotten greater society by chiding the young generation these days for having no ambition; for their not getting with the program and studying at school, and buckling down. Little do they realize that they have the power in their hands as individual women, to bring this rottenness to an end: by having even less children than just a few: by having very few children or no children. And by doing this, they need not take on into themselves the rottenness of the overall society by making their kids buckle down and try to satisfy greater societal requirements; which can be quite cruel. You see, the human infant is quite helpless when born. For the mother to apply the greater society directly to their infant when born, would eliminate cruelty in the greater society in short order, as human infants wouldn't survive it; and without surviving infants, any cruel society is doomed. But no, these mothers nurture their human infants until of age, and then cut off that nurture at this time; hence allowing the cruel society a source of fodder to feed on (because when of age, the child is no longer helpless); allowing the cruel society to continue. By doing this, they themselves become responsible in part for the cruelties in society, that they could have eliminated, but instead acted to support. And as a child, who happens to be under bad parents, it is up to us to do better: to not do as our parents have done, but to do in ways that eliminate the cruelties of society. And this has nothing to do with buckling down to get the degree, but has everything to do with controlling our reproduction as individuals, and not having the greater society eliminate our control over our own sexuality and reproduction. It is the way of inherent democracy that we are born with; -the way we as individuals decide which societies we will keep, and which societies we will scrap. And this inherent democracy can exist quite well with the young (and old) expressing their individual sexuality in ways that do not produce offspring, as well as in ways that do produce a few offspring--when that couple is placing their stamp of approval on their society. So get out and vote for democracy. Vote Democrat; but vote Democrats that won't take away individual's inherent democracy in their reproductiveness through cloning. Cloning takes away from the individual control over their reproduction and puts it in the hand of the greater society. Some greater societies may need to be eliminated by their individuals because they are cruel. Do not allow cruel societies to escape the wrath of their individuals through cloning. Note that the greater society is stronger and more powerful than its individuals that make it up. And an individual has little hope of success in going against the wishes of any greater society. The greater society tells the individual what to do in every other area; why should the sexual area be any different? But it is different. It is here in this sexual area of reproduction that individual women have the power to completely annihilate the greater society if they deem it too evil, no mater that this greater society may be much more powerful than they are as individuals. The greater society may try to take this power away from the individuals by regulating their sexuality, outlawing abortion, preventing them from using birth control -calling it a sin; but it cannot prevail if women unite and stand firm. Because although the greater society may be able to destroy all or many individual women, and punish and reward individual women: individual women can annihilate this society, even though they be also killed. If killed, their deaths will not be meaningless, as they will have accomplished putting an end to this hated greater society. Sometimes I hear the calls for those on welfare, who are taking advantage of the system, who are not pulling their weight, to be cut off and made to suffer. A society that can dictate our economic lives, that can force us to do menial tasks in exchange for our survival food and shelter, is one thing. But what about those people who reject that, and who disobey what they have been told, and who don't enslave themselves for their survival needs? What does a society do with them? Well, one option is to deny them any assistance with their survival needs. But let us apply our newly learned concept about putting things that are not all bad nor all good, but some of both; in medium ability. What is the right thing to do? What is the wise choice? For a society to deny completely the survival needs of individuals who disobey the burden their society requires them to bear, is to throw that individual into barrenness. If that individual is all evil with no good whatsoever to them, then this is the right thing to do. However, most individuals aren't all evil with no goodness to them. Even individuals who shirk at some of the burdens a society may want to put on them, usually are not all destructive, but usually are a mixture of both goodness and destructiveness. In these cases, the best thing to do, is to put them at medium ability, not at bareness, nor richness. For a society that has an abundance of resources, that can do whatever, with ease; to deny these shirking individuals who are neither all good nor all destructive, is to throw them into bareness. All this does is show the incompetence of this society itself, and shows its lack of vision and lack of realization that goodness and kindness are valuable, and are a better way to be than not. Never mind, as the small one way gift will fill the needs here to medium ability, and will even partially destroy elements of a snooty society that try to prevent this. Sometimes one can be surrounded by a societal group that makes a big to do about the negative aspects of a promiscuous lifestyle, while being totally silent about the equally negative aspects of a chaste lifestyle, especially in conservative circles; when in actuality, no matter which way you go there is always some ups and some downs (just in different areas). The reproductive area is an imperfect, human, gray area that no matter which way you go, or what you do, has negative/destructive results (just in different areas), due to it being one of those human hunger areas that has inescapably intertwined some good as well as some destruction (at our level of ability). The negative aspects of men who violate a woman outside a bar is brought up. But silent is the pain of all the other gentlemen whom countless women have forced not to have sex with them against their will, and also thereby violated them. Especially including the unmarried couples whom in the past have been forced not to have sex against their wills by the police enforcing anti cohabitation laws. And then they bring up the child molesters. But my question is, which child molesters are they talking about? Is it the matriarchs of some African villages who genitally mutilate their young girls (brought to them by their mothers) so that when they grow into puberty they won't enjoy sexual intercourse so that they won't get a venereal disease so that their womb won't be harmed so that they can have lots of babies with their husband so that we can hear about all the starving children in Africa? (I consider this child molestation). Or is it the pervert who violates young girls perhaps giving them a venereal disease and more certainly damaging them psychologically in the sexual area so that they can't have a family of their own when they grow up. Thus spoiling society's sexually based need for a certain number of offspring to be produced in a family structure? And when you directly violate or spoil or damage the expression of society's sexually based need (for offspring), in a society which is intolerant of even misdirected sexual activity that is not directly destructive to the satisfaction of its need, (and that has acquired the practice of controlling the sexuality of its individuals), then you engender the full wrath of that society. Pity the man who is born with a sexual attraction to young girls, as opposed to sexually mature women, as his life will be short. I still maintain that most sexual expression has some good and some bad inescapably intertwined, but these are extreme cases where there isn't much good to them if at all. It is just not a wise choice, if you are able to choose. Sexual expression, as an imperfect action, needs to be out from under the control of larger entities which seek to impose absolute rules. A child is under the control of the state and parents. To engage in sexual expression with a child, even with a willing state and or parents; just brings that sexual expression under external control; and that is not a wise choice. Also, a child is in a state of creation -of their sexuality in the process of being formed; so that such creating entities may not want to be drawn into the imperfect sexual area any more than they have to. So, unless you are forced to, it is better to keep your sexual expression out of the hands of controlling societies and parents. Especially since these often represent a ravening all evil that is attempting to prey upon this human area for its survival; when it should not be allowed to prey on this human area so that this all evil self consumes and disappears. Note that there are those, mainly conservatives, who emphasize the negative /bad aspects of sexuality, while omitting the positive/good aspects. Yes, human sexuality is imperfect. But are we of a caliper to be able to replace it with something better? If not, then all the bantering and over emphasizing sexuality's negatives, is just a ploy for them to advance their conservative structure on human sexuality; which itself acts as an all evil to prey on human sexuality; causing much damage. Do not bring up the negativeness of child molestation (which is most probably all bad/destructive/evil) to distract us from the all bad/destructiveness /evil of the conservative way. They should both be cast out and off of human sexuality. I personally know of no child molesters trying to infringe on my personal sexuality nor the sexuality of any child. But I am aware of many people in the name of the conservative way who make it clear of their intent to regulate my and everyone else's personal sexuality. Thus I feel the removal of the conservative way from human sexuality is more urgent. End insert. Concerning the idea favoring the production of medium ability environments: in the gray areas of actually living earthly life, where there is a mix of both goodness and destruction: the plan to segregate each to its own kind shouldn't even be attempted. -Because it is a gray action, we're unable to segregate the good parts from the destructive parts. But we shouldn't even try to segregate the good from the bad here. This is because the good force here achieves that separation on its own, and no additional (outside) action is needed. It is hard work for the good here, yes, but this is what it generates naturally. So perhaps this is why the bible is reluctant to have God separate the good from the bad here on earth until the end of time; -because he wants to allow the good on earth to do so of itself, and thus grow here. So that the destruction (which the force of destructiveness does here), helps provide the medium ability environment, which is so ripe for allowing good to escape that destructiveness. The small one way gift does act not only to generate unto medium ability in the vacuum left by the destructiveness of rules (as well as other destructiveness); it also acts to protect this medium ability material (as well as itself) from additional destruction, from rules, as well as from other destructive sources. This includes, to a certain extent, destructiveness from and within the medium ability material and gray action itself. You see, one of the results of rules is that it amplifies and accumulates the destruction within gray actions to the point it becomes an all evil or that it can be separated from the gray action. You see, the thing about gray actions is that they have some destructiveness as part of them that cannot be separated away. But the result of rules is that the destructiveness (from gray actions) becomes concentrated to the point it is a destructiveness that can be separated away from the core gray action(which has a destructiveness that can't be separated). For the one way gift to attempt to separate the destructiveness within a core gray action, results in not only a failure to achieve this, but a similar result that rules result in. So that the one way gift does not act to separate the destructiveness from within any core gray action; but on the other hand, does act to separate any destructiveness away from the gray action that CAN be successfully separated away. On one hand the one way gift doesn't interfere and it does nothing and lets the gray action ruminate; but on the other hand, the one way gift does interact and does remove destructiveness that can be separated away from gray actions, including those that accumulate from older gray actions themselves. So the one way gift is leaving alone, not interfering in, and not acting on or in a gray action itself. But this leads to a contradiction when the one way gift is generating to medium ability out of a vacuum. When the one way gift is generating (to medium ability) some part of a gray action which the other parts of the gray action need but have none of; then these other parts of the gray action cannot use it but must instead wait till the one way gift is finished generating it and then leaves it, before it can then be activated and used by and added to the other parts of the gray action. What I'm trying to say is that the gray action is impure concerning good vs destruction, while the one way gift, from the all good, is pure, at least initially, and is more pure than any gray action. But the purpose of the one way gift, is to bring the gray action to medium ability never minding the loss in its purity. This involves creating material to medium ability where a vacuum once was. But if the one way gift and what it is creating can be segregated from the rest of the gray action, until it is done creating in this area; and then remove itself before the rest of the gray action joins the new material; then the one way gift can preserve some of its purity and not suffer as much loss, due to the inescapable destruction inherent within the gray action itself; then the force of good will have done well here. -Needing less replacement one way gift; the major all good won't be drained by this process. Also, keeping the one way gift separate from the core gray action, keeps the one way gift from being tempted to regulate or attempting to separate the forces here where it is unable to do so (at this level of ability). The force of destruction is a weaker, inferior force. Because of this, in order to even survive, it needs to have two tier structures. It needs to have small set aside areas that are protected, that allow life to grow and generate a little, before being thrown into the larger evil arena, where they are devoured as food for sustaining evil/destruction. Like the small nurturing environment of one's family allows helpless infants to grow up into something more capable, to then be thrown out into the crueler greater society so as to feed the evil/destructiveness therein. Like going to church to be mindful of God, then leaving church to go back into the regular world which is not so mindful of God. Like collecting all the good, rewarding things together, accessible with money, so we can create a second reason for doing things, outside of the inherent effects of (work) actions themselves. (ie, of being paid and rewarded with outside rewards (from money) for doing these work actions that we may otherwise not do, if only considering their inherent, often destructive effects of these actions themselves. This seems a little pessimistic, and actually it is. However, my point is that the force of destruction absolutely needs these two tier structures to survive. Note also, that the structure I have proposed for the one way gift, is also a two tier structure. It doesn't absolutely have to be so, but for efficiency and for minimizing losses to destruction, it is this way. So that just because one sees a two tier structure, does not necessitate it to be a tool of evil. So that the child who is thrown out of the house when of age, is not necessarily a bad thing as I had previously indicated. However, it can easily be a bad thing. We need to be more precise in analyzing these situations. You see, this is just another case of incorrectly applying absolute judgments to gray areas of life, that are not at all absolute. -If a child of age is to be considered material created by the one way gift, which is to then participate in the greater world of imperfect work; then we will have thus assumed that this whole person is all imperfect gray action. And this is just not the case. There are some areas of a person which are much more free from destructiveness than other areas of this person that are much more gray, -having good and destruction much more inescapably intertwined. The destruction free areas of this person represent the high good. This high good, is mostly not forced to be polluted with the impure gray areas, and it is only the small one way gift that breaks with being holy and separate from the gray areas, which does come down and get it on with the gray areas. So that the parent creators of a young person cannot throw this whole person into the crueler greater society of the gray work world; but only their gray parts and a small piece of their high good parts (which is their one way gift): and still be considered to be in line with the one way gift structure. And there is the question of violating the will of their one way gift. Also, the one way gift creates and generates component parts to the larger gray action it will then release it to. For a two tier structure to release life to a gray area that it has no relation to and is totally not alike (just so that it can be destroyed/devoured as food for an evil), is not in line with the one way gift structure either. What is released into the greater gray action, is material that is a component part of that gray action, as generated by the one way gift, in order to maintain that gray action at medium ability, out of bareness. So that just throwing a person or part of a person unprepared into the greater society and told to figure it out for themselves; is not in line with the one way gift structure, since what was generated was not a component part of the greater society. And any of these two tiered structures that are not acting as one way gift structures; are thus acting as what is left over. And what is the left over purpose of two tiered structures, is to be provision for maintaining and feeding the force of destruction. And that's nothing to be proud of or to support. Note that the presence of a two tier structure either indicates the actions of the one way gift; or the feeding of evil. Note that in either case, it indicates the presence of evil (as the one way gift structure is for dealing with evil, including gray areas that have good and destruction/evil inextricably intertwined). Note that this does not represent the high all good that is free from all destruction. So that wherever there is a two tier structure, evil/destruction is present, and does not represent the finished work of the high good. Unfortunately, the concept that the good in gray areas naturally outperforms destructiveness and gets away from it; is in contradiction to Jesus' exhortation to resist not evil, and if one smite thee on one cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. Xx Now, if evil isn't able to smite one on the first cheek, then one isn't bound to turn the other cheek by this saying. But in the earthly arena of gray areas; the good here is well within the grasp and reach of the evil /destructiveness here. This apparent contradiction (between that God won't separate the good from the bad here on earth until the end; vs. Christ's exhortation to the earthly good here to submit to destruction); is actually a confirmation that God wants us to play both sides. What I'm saying is that because God has hidden himself and not overtly shown Himself; that He is thereby encouraging us to consider the possibility that He doesn't exist yet, and that we must, in part, do what we can within ourselves instead of just saying 'I don't have to deal with this or do anything because I'll just depend on God to take care of it for me'. Jesus in saying 'turn the other cheek', is representing the Godly position. He believes that God does exist. And if a powerful God does exist; He will take care of the defense of all that is good. Just like we in society are not expected to take the law into our own hands to provide for our own personal protection against attack, but are expected to defer that to the professionals, the police, to call the police to provide for the defense of our person against destructive acts perpetrated by destructive people. Basically what Christ's position seems to be is that it's not our job as measly earthlings to provide for our own protection, and that we should sit back and let the more powerful God do this for us. Here in God's world, it is not the underlings who are expected to provide for the rich and powerful God, but it is the rich and powerful God who provides for us weaker underlings. -Kind of a welfare from God type of thing. And we should develop an expectation that God will protect us and make better any destruction evil does. -that it's not for us to do this; that it's not our job. (This is quite different from how our richer more powerful bosses here on earth treat us.) But this flies in the face of the dynamics of how earthly good in these gray areas naturally outperforms and escapes destruction. But of course if God really exists then this minor advantage is of no consequence and it is actually better to let the all powerful God handle this. On the belief in God side, no matter what small bedraggled remnant is left after destruction has destroyed is easily made whole, replaced and perfected by/in God. But even if the earthly good on the believe in God side is totally destroyed; any holdback good parts of us, are thus outside the believe in God side. Instead they are on the `we must do it ourselves (in case God hasn't been created yet)' side. Being on that side, they are no longer bound by `turn the other cheek', and are able to take advantage of that earthly good naturally escapes the destruction here (more often than not). And when they mature, being uncertain as to if there exists God yet or not; they thus devote a small portion to God to hedge their bet. Then the godly side once again has something (and is no longer totally destroyed), and the whole of the Godly side is thereby recreated by/in God from that small part again. Thus if you are playing both sides (as I am), then with the earthly good of your Godly side, you resist not evil and allow it to be destroyed by destruction. But not so with your earthly good in your do-it-yourself side. Here you don't let destruction destroy it but instead allow it to naturally escape destruction. And as it produces and generates new good, and when that new good matures and part of it chooses the Godly side; then your whole Godly side can be recreated from this small part even if a destruction had completely wiped out your Godly side earlier. (This is a change, because usually it is the Godly side that is the engine of growth. But here in this one instance, the earthly side saves the day.) And if destruction wasn't able to completely destroy your Godly side, then the whole of it is easily recreated from whatever remnant remains, without needing to go to your earthly side for this. Concerning the attraction members of the opposite sex have for each other; what purpose do you think it serves? Consider perhaps that without it, many life forms wouldn't take the time/effort it takes to have and raise offspring. Even though we are above the animals, and know in our minds that we must reproduce, to maintain future society (because we all eventually die off); we still might not do this, because we'd want to shove this burden off onto someone else, and might try to avoid the expense ourselves. But if we come born with an attraction for the opposite sex, well, problem solved. Or sort of. Some might consider that sexual desire is an imperfect method to provide for our societal reproduction, and that human reasoning might do a better job. And this is entirely possible. Consider that when animals have sexual relations, there is only one result: -that offspring are always produced. But that when humans have sexual relations, offspring need not necessarily be the result. With the use of birth control and condoms, sexual relations can be for fun, and not have anything to do with reproduction. This is something that is uniquely human; and is not seen in the animal world. Consider that if sexual desire can be diverted into an avenue separate from reproduction, consider that something else (such as human reasoning) can have say over human reproduction. But no. religion won't have it. And wants sexual desire to be for human reproduction only. Next represents some very interesting material, but not necessarily completely what my current position is. Jesus states his commandments are not burdensome. But to package and make absolute rules over the reproductive drive, is actually burdensome. But what Jesus is actually saying in the reproductive drive area, is not what people believe today. When the bible talks of marriage, adultery, fornication etc, we then go to the dictionary which is not a holy book, to learn their meanings. But Jesus, the head man himself, has defined what marriage is, in the bible. And from this we can infer the other things. He has said of marriage, that the 2 become one flesh, and what God has therefore joined together, let no man put asunder. Well, think about it. Can married people prove that they have become one flesh? Flesh is something visible that can be touched and seen (unlike the spirit which is invisible). And, yes, we can say that in married people, the two have become one flesh. Not that they morph into a shape shifting mass (outside of when making love), but in that married people have children. That the two have become one flesh in the form of their child (children). So that marriage is defined by Jesus as having children exclusively: -not as having sex exclusively. Now if we were like the animals, this would be a distinction of no importance because when animals have sex, they invariably have offspring. But with humans, the use of condoms and birth control, etc, having sex doesn't necessarily mean having children. And we can infer from the definition Jesus puts forth of marriage, that adultery involves having children with someone other than your spouse, not necessarily having sex with someone other than your spouse. And that fornication is a person with no previous children having a child with someone who already has children by someone else. This Jesus based definition and regulation of our sexuality upholds the family unit, as the family unit is one source of goodness. And it does so without basing it on a shaky foundation. And I tell you, trying to base the family unit on suppressing the sex drive, is a shaky foundation. Whereas with basing the family unit on the child connection, the foundation is firm. The additional rules over our sexuality that insist on sexual exclusivity, are not from God, but are from men being led astray by the forces of destruction: doing the work of destruction by their added rules. Have you heard the latest gossip? Have you heard so and so was seen cheating at the Bar X motel last night? Sounds like someone is in non compliance with a rule directed towards human sexual behavior. This is the thing about rules. -You're either in compliance or non compliance. There's no middle ground. -Everything is either black or white, all good or totally evil, ones or zeros. Rules force you to make an absolute judgment about something with no room for middle ground. So that inside your head, what something is, exists as a black and white representation. But in our world, few things exist as absolutes. We are dealing with humans not Gods. So if you see the human animals before you in the light of compliance vs. non compliance to a set of rules and regulations, then what they are in your mind is not what they are outside your mind. Because in your mind they are splotches of black and white whereas outside your mind they are something in between all good vs. all destructive; in between rich vs. poor: they are middle class. So, through the light of compliance vs. non compliance to rules and regulations, a fantasy world can exist inside your mind. Fantasy worlds can be entertaining, but don't expect me to take them absolutely seriously. So that to me, a person's human sexual behavior is neither all good nor all evil but is somewhere in between regardless of whether they are faithful or cheating. Thinking of this another way, we see that we are humans and that we live on this earth, and that a lot of what we are and do is neither all good nor all evil, but is somewhere in between. But that when we apply rules to these gray areas (areas which are far from absolute), that forces us to make absolute judgments about these areas. That in reality, over a large range of what we do or how we are in these human areas, we produce some goodness and also some destructiveness. And that this just shifts around (the goodness and destructiveness shifts around) to different areas as we do an area in different ways. So that what we produce is some good and some destruction. But when we are classified by rules over the human areas (as either being in compliance or non compliance); we are treated as being all good, or all bad as a result of that classification. We should receive the reward of what we produce, and that is neither all goodness nor all destruction. But we don't receive that but instead receive either all goodness or all destruction based on how we are classified by the rules over the human area. And when we humans who in reality are some good and some bad are treated with either all goodness or all destruction, neither of these environments helps us change out of our state of being half good and half bad. Only when we receive what we produce, that is being rewarded with some good and some bad, will we be in a medium ability environment which is the only environment where our good can outperform our bad and where we can thus change from being partly good and partly bad, to being all good. Otherwise we are forced to remain as part good and part bad and are prevented from changing out of this. In this aspect, I know who I am. I'm a human being, who over a large range of what I possibly could do; does neither all good nor all destruction, but does some of both good and, due to the fact that many of the actions available to me produce both good and destruction (in destruction different areas) out of the same action. This just restates the previous paragraph: But when the large range of what I could do, gets carved up into absolute classifications; and depending on which classification of this range I'm in, I get treated as either all good or all evil as a result: neither of these treatments helps me change out of being partly good and partly bad, but instead preserves me in my state of being partly good and partly bad. Now, since when the forces are separate(alone), they find it harder to find input raw material to work with (with both forces: -of good, and especially the force of destruction); there may be some room for delaying the separation of good from the bad in us humans. But not to the extent of perpetual delay. So then, if we apply the concept of seeking a medium environment when evil is present; to whether a woman should have children: I see this: woman who are in an absolutely evil society with no goodness, may act to not have any children, and thereby put an end to this destructive society similar to the doing destruction to destruction concept. And men who are supposed to work, can do no work and also thereby not feed evil. But in a society that contains some evil, but also some good, women in this society can have a limited number of children (not an excessive number of children (rich environment)), and so help create a medium environment, where the evil can separate away. And also, men who are supposed to work, can do a little work (not an excessive amount) and thereby help create the desired medium environment. And of course, women in a totally good society can have many children and men can do much work; as here, the rich environment won't be burned down by evil. Oooops I have made a mistake. I no longer think that women have the unrestricted source of inherent democracy within them. You see, I no longer think it is a good plan for women in an absolutely evil society to stop having kids. Because even though this will eventually bring about an end to this evil society, in the interim, it will make this evil society rich (because they no longer have to afford resources for the care of children). This richness in the presence of evil, will just feed evil and make it large and big; thus burning us all down in a firestorm. So I no longer think it is a good plan for women to use their childbearing (or lack of it) as a tool to root out evil. It still remains a useful tool in good societies where there is no evil, to give women their rightful place and for them to gain equality. But in these good societies, women shouldn't take this to extreme; and should still have some kids so as to continue this good society (but not an excessive amount either, because poverty for a good society is also not a good plan). In evil societies that restrict the bearing of children so as to become rich and also evil (using their richness to control every aspect of their citizen's lives), we non evil societies are forced into an unpleasant situation, of being overtaken and having our people run in absolute control over our lives too. In this situation, we are forced to suffer through rich evil, because the only option is for every woman to stop having kids and eventually end this. But if women have a choice; in evil societies, they should have kids and plenty of them. (Pay no attention to this. ) As you can see, I am unclear in my advice to women on childbearing. But at this time, I now change back again to seeing women as the unrestricted source of inherent human democracy. You see, in bad societies run by dictators who control every part of the lives of their subjects; people are already divided into rich and poor. Some are taken from and have their lives spent enriching the dictator and his(her) ruling class. These poor impoverished people have no recourse and are too poor and powerless to overthrow the hated government. What I'm saying is that in these societies, there is already a division between rich and poor. The dictator and his ruling class have already enriched themselves and made their evil/destructive ways rich on the backs of these poor people. For these poor people and those around them that hate this way; for them not to have children (all the sex they want, just no more children); is an expression by them to reject this way and to bring it to an end. These people are being starved to death and are dying anyway: there is nothing much more the dictator can do to coerce them. And the enrichment that they will give to the dictator by not using resources for children won't be that much more than the dictator is receiving from them already by running their lives into the ground in starvation. So that yes, here in these bad societies; it is the thing to do for the individual to express their acceptance or rejection of their situation (in this case, rejection of this situation), by not having any more children, and thus eventually putting an end to this situation. No need for Bush to come in and overthrow your dictator; you can do it yourself within your own country. In countries with a sharp divide between rich and poor (with little or no middle class), the poor can express their disapproval of their situation this way, without having to resort to violence and fomenting revolution etc. But in countries with a decent sized middle class, and a good way of life for all; hopefully the women there would see the goodness of continuing that situation, by having a reasonable number of children, but not an excessive number of children as an excessive number would just impoverish what was once a good life due to all the extra resources needed to raise an excessive number all at once. Women could still use `not having children' here as a bargaining tool to gain equal or slightly better economic status, but I would warn that they not take this to finality because they would eliminate a `good life for all society', if they did. So, we are back in business with this women empowerment thing and women as sources of democracy thing. -because the counter argument that women not-having-children would enrich the bad society is mute because that bad society already enriches itself on the backs of its poor; and the extra richness gained by not having kids, would be quickly gobbled up by the poor themselves; or even if the dictator was able to extract it; it would be just a little more of the same, as the dictator is already extracting from the people at pretty much their maximum already. Also, because extra resources are needed to power a system of absolute control over every citizen's lives: the extra richness gained from not having children, would cause a move out of poverty and into medium ability; and not a move from medium ability into richness. And in this environment with an evil dictator, it is the medium environment that is needed, not either poverty or richness. Let us now consider the claim that if one believes on Jesus, he receives heaven, but if one does not believe, he receives hell. This applying absolute rewards (either all rewarding or all destructive) to us non absolute humans, isn't helpful to us at all, but just preserves us as humans (in the case of receiving heaven), and if we receive total destruction, preserves us as humans until we are destroyed. Any of these systems of severe punishments or absolute rewards for the various ways of being human, are just preservatives that prevent us from being anything other than human. But after asking God/Jesus for an explanation of this, the resulting answer turns out just to be a matter of interpretation of this. The answer I got is this: God is an absolute. Not only is God an absolute, God is an absolute good. And when God is going about being himself, he is going to produce a lot of goodness, and generating a lot of rich environments. When I as a non absolute human being come into contact with one of these rich environments, it is detrimental to me because I require a medium environment to function. Now with the environment being rich, the destructiveness within me no longer separates and dies, but stays with me and consumes me in an eternal burn; and I am in torment. God realizes that His absolute goodness does this to me, so He in kindness, provides me an out: He allows me to put down my old human ways and let them expire, and replace them with absolute Godly ways, that is, when I run into (where there exists) these all good absolute Godly ways. And this is accomplished by Jesus providing a limited path of medium ability environment where I can let my old human ways expire without the evil in them getting out into the absolute goodness to consume me (a purgatory if you will). But of course, I have a choice. God isn't going to force me to do this. If I wish that the evil in me (from that part of my human ways) continue even in the presence of the absolute goodness of God, I can have that too, by just not reaching out to Christ, and continuing in my own way. This is how I interpret Christ's outreach. The exhortations to love your enemies and to love all people do act to create rich environments, and this may cause tribulation. But that is just from the effects of absolute goodness. Absolute goodness is one of the possibilities, and for us to not be able to deal with absolute goodness represents an innocence that cannot last forever, especially with the growth potential of absolute goodness. Absolute goodness can exist and if so, should not be expected to give up its existence just because we middle ground humans don't know how to deal with it. So that when we are confronted with absolute goodness, we can accept Jesus to guide a smooth transition from non absolute human ways to be replaced with absolute good ways. But when there are no absolute good ways yet, and the only way available is the human ways, we can continue to have human ways (otherwise we'd be in barrenness -also a preservative) until such time as absolute good ways can replace them. (As we are not preserved eternally as human, but advance into absolute goodness)- we can thus have the presence of both absolute good ways and also human ways in us. (For religious leaders to shame our human parts, puts them into barrenness, which prevents them from also advancing into absolute good.) It is the presence of both absolute good ways, and human ways in us that can take on a similar structure as the playing both sides structure outlined in other places of this writing -that being based on whether God exists now vs. that God is yet to be created and we need to do it ourselves now. You see, whatever we do can be seen as God in us doing it (that we are extensions of God). Except when our actions are imperfect human actions which contain both good and destruction. These cannot be seen as God in us doing them. So some actions can be placed on an absolute good side with God, and the human/gray actions are on the other side. The object then is to place human ways in a medium environment. When we feel a need to do a human/gray action, we can separate off a smaller portion of ourselves to do it, so it will be done in a medium environment and not a rich environment. Also, when we remove godly parts as some of the actions mature to become a mix of human and godly fragments, we can Incompletely repatriate human fragments (left after removing the godly part) into being one with complete human actions: -for the purpose of maintaining a medium ability environment. And also not completely separating away outside destructions that enter in; also for this same purpose of maintaining neither a rich nor a desolate, but a medium environment. In such a way, the good of our human actions is able to escape their humanness and join the absolute goodness. So that we just wait and let the goodness of our human actions purify and find their own way back into the absolute goodness of the major part of us that we left behind to do the human action; as they will do. Let me go over this in more detail: (This segment can easily be skipped. What I'm saying, is it is OK and good to skip this segment.) When an action is first generated, it goes along and goes along until eventually it matures and half splits off to be godly and the other half humanly. The perfected godly parts generated then (after an initial place marker) are generated as devoting a partial percentage of their activities to also generating new action (which also must wait to eventually undergo maturity itself). As the perfect-like new actions generated from the mature godly side are maturing, they may (or may not) be under need to satisfy earthly desires and do earthly actions. If not, they just mature to the half and half split off of maturity; as an immature action can rest as temporarily devoting itself in the godly direction but still able to change to the earthly direction if needed. In the generation of new actions in the satisfying of new earthly needs, As some of these immature actions mature in the earthly side, they split off half and half also. Now with mature parts in the earthly side that are now for godly; unless these parts are removed, their presence in the earthly side but being unable to act in most earthly directives will halt the functioning of the earthly directives in satisfying earthly hungers. And even after being removed, some fragments of the earthly side are totally crippled because (half of) what did function for the earthly side when immature, now as mature, is unable to function for the earthly side. It is then by the Partial repatriation of crippled remnant fragments previously spoken of that generates the medium environment which is neither barren nor rich that is needed here in this earthly situation. Also, note that when earthly parts, both mature and immature find a moment when they are done with earthly concerns and needs; and not busy and without anything to do; they can align themselves in the godly direction (as best they can). True, they are not built for that, but in whatever limited way, they can do this, to also (help) generate perfected godly material. Then when a new earthly need arises, they can switch back to earthly concerns. End skipped segment. When I drop the phrase `the creator'; who or what am I referring to? One could think I'm referring to almighty God. But consider that I'm also referring to all the human creators here on earth. And that the human female is in part, the creator of new life here on this earth. (This makes them a target for evil to corrupt that which is good and growing.) Now, if we as a people, don't treat the human creators who we can see, with dignity and respect, but instead treat them as second class citizens, then I don't see this as welcoming to an almighty CREATOR who we can't see; but who shares a kinship with the many human creators who we can see, through the common link of being a creator. It is not enough to believe in God. If we believe God exists, but also mistreat God, then any religion that does this, I think we can see, won't be well received by God. And isn't it a waste of our time to practice a religion which will be rejected by God/Allah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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