Re: Help with Tantrums

[Guest guest]

My 2 yr old son has started them aswell. I contribute alot of them to being

frustrated that he can't always communicate what he wants and also that he is

used to getting EVERYTHING he wants because his grandmother lives with us.

Needless to say he is quite the spoiled little boy lol. I just took him 2 days

ago to the pediatrician just to make sure there where no underlying issues. I

asked him about them and he asked me what I did to handle it. I just recently

began placing him on the floor in a safe place and walking away when he is

throwing a tantrum. The Dr told me that was the best way to handle it. I try to

comfort him but if he refuses to be comforted I put him down and walk away.

Initially he got madder but he then stood up looked around and quit. My son is

very stubborn so sometimes it can be very trying on me but this seems to be

working well. I just let him know I'm there to give him all the love he wants

but not while he is throwing a fit.

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> Hi,

>

> Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

>

> I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can share

what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old daughter,

Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and comfort her.

This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the tantrums. Any

suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but effective way?

Thanks.

>

> Pat

> Mom to Emma (2)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away -- all

the while monitoring her for safety.

________________________________

From: MosaicDS [MosaicDS ] on behalf of Pat

[pat_nakon@...]

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

To: MosaicDS

Subject: Help with Tantrums

Hi,

Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet member.

I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can share

what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old daughter,

Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and comfort her.

This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the tantrums. Any

suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but effective way?

Thanks.

Pat

Mom to Emma (2)

[Guest guest]

haha!! cynthia!

 

I had a piece of advice awhile back and use it sometimes on my son, and he

understand it, which is cool.  " I can't hear you when you yell " Then, I go my my

quiet place in my head. And walk away. He sometimes fallows, and then says: " I

wanna hold you! "  

Casey Morton: ----------------------------------

IMDSA Self-Advocate/Spokesman www.imdsa.org

Morton Programs Management: Founder.  www.linkedin.com

Blog: http://caseymorton30.blogspot.com/ 

----------------------------------------------------

 

Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

To: " MosaicDS " <MosaicDS >

Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away -- all

the while monitoring her for safety.

________________________________

From: MosaicDS [MosaicDS ] on behalf of Pat

[pat_nakon@...]

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

To: MosaicDS

Subject: Help with Tantrums

Hi,

Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet member.

I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can share

what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old daughter,

Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and comfort her.

This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the tantrums. Any

suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but effective way?

Thanks.

Pat

Mom to Emma (2)

[Guest guest]

I have a niece who will have a riotous, throwing herself on the floor

tantrums and when her mom walks out of the room she will calm down, walk

into the room that her mom is in and throw herself on the floor again and

continue the tantrum so her mom moves rooms again - the child will calm down

and follow and the whole things starts all over again. ;-)

Darlene

>

>

> haha!! cynthia!

>

> I had a piece of advice awhile back and use it sometimes on my son, and he

> understand it, which is cool. " I can't hear you when you yell " Then, I go my

> my quiet place in my head. And walk away. He sometimes fallows, and then

> says: " I wanna hold you! "

>

> Casey Morton: ----------------------------------

> IMDSA Self-Advocate/Spokesman www.imdsa.org

> Morton Programs Management: Founder. www.linkedin.com

>

> Blog: http://caseymorton30.blogspot.com/

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

> From: , - Kenton County

<cynthia.jones@...<cynthia.jones%40kenton.kyschools.us>

> >

> Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

> To: " MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> " <

> MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>>

> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

>

>

> I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away --

> all the while monitoring her for safety.

> ________________________________

> From: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> [

> MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>] on behalf of Pat [

> pat_nakon@... <pat_nakon%40yahoo.com>]

> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

> To: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Help with Tantrums

>

> Hi,

>

> Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

> member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

> e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

>

> I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can

> share what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old

> daughter, Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and

> comfort her. This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the

> tantrums. Any suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but

> effective way? Thanks.

>

> Pat

> Mom to Emma (2)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, when her intended audience leaves, it takes the " umph " out of her

performance! LOL! Yeah, Molly didn't walk until 20 months, so I didn't have

that problem. When I told her to " call me when you're finished " and walked

away, she had nowhere else to go!

________________________________________

From: MosaicDS [MosaicDS ] on behalf of Darlene

Benoit [Darleneand@...]

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:23 PM

To: MosaicDS

Subject: Re: Help with Tantrums

I have a niece who will have a riotous, throwing herself on the floor

tantrums and when her mom walks out of the room she will calm down, walk

into the room that her mom is in and throw herself on the floor again and

continue the tantrum so her mom moves rooms again - the child will calm down

and follow and the whole things starts all over again. ;-)

Darlene

>

>

> haha!! cynthia!

>

> I had a piece of advice awhile back and use it sometimes on my son, and he

> understand it, which is cool. " I can't hear you when you yell " Then, I go my

> my quiet place in my head. And walk away. He sometimes fallows, and then

> says: " I wanna hold you! "

>

> Casey Morton: ----------------------------------

> IMDSA Self-Advocate/Spokesman www.imdsa.org

> Morton Programs Management: Founder. www.linkedin.com

>

> Blog: http://caseymorton30.blogspot.com/

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

> From: , - Kenton County

<cynthia.jones@...<cynthia.jones%40kenton.kyschools.us>

> >

> Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

> To: " MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> " <

> MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>>

> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

>

>

> I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away --

> all the while monitoring her for safety.

> ________________________________

> From: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> [

> MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>] on behalf of Pat [

> pat_nakon@... <pat_nakon%40yahoo.com>]

> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

> To: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Help with Tantrums

>

> Hi,

>

> Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

> member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

> e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

>

> I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can

> share what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old

> daughter, Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and

> comfort her. This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the

> tantrums. Any suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but

> effective way? Thanks.

>

> Pat

> Mom to Emma (2)

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son used to do that before we started treating his autism. Now, he has

stopped that.

> >

> > From: , - Kenton County

<cynthia.jones@...<cynthia.jones%40kenton.kyschools.us>

> > >

> > Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

> > To: " MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> " <

> > MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>>

> > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

> >

> >

> > I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away --

> > all the while monitoring her for safety.

> > ________________________________

> > From: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> [

> > MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>] on behalf of Pat [

> > pat_nakon@... <pat_nakon%40yahoo.com>]

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

> > To: MosaicDS <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Help with Tantrums

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

> > member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> > I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check my

> > e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

> >

> > I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can

> > share what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year old

> > daughter, Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close and

> > comfort her. This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with the

> > tantrums. Any suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving but

> > effective way? Thanks.

> >

> > Pat

> > Mom to Emma (2)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thanks for the detailed mail you posted earlier under the thread ' Blood

Work Questions'. I will get back to you with few of my doubts about my son

later. BTW, Can you please put some more lights on the treatment, your son

had for tantrums. My son is 10 months and he started giving out stressful

sounds, which looks like putting pressure for going to toilet. We assume

that it was just the way of him showing off his emotions( frustration).

Later we found that he had some urinal infection and after giving

antibiotics, he became okay. Still he produces the sound.

Thanks and Regards

Pramod Sreedharan

A budget is just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well as

afterward.

From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf

Of agirlnamedsuess21

Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 08:14

To: MosaicDS

Subject: Re: Help with Tantrums

My son used to do that before we started treating his autism. Now, he has

stopped that.

> >

> > From: , - Kenton County

<cynthia.jones@...<cynthia.jones%40kenton.kyschools.us>

> > >

> > Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

> > To: " MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

<MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> " <

> > MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

<MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>>

> > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

> >

> >

> > I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away

--

> > all the while monitoring her for safety.

> > ________________________________

> > From: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

<MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> [

> > MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

<MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>] on behalf of Pat [

> > pat_nakon@... <pat_nakon%40yahoo.com>]

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

> > To: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

<MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Help with Tantrums

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

> > member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> > I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check

my

> > e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

> >

> > I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can

> > share what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year

old

> > daughter, Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close

and

> > comfort her. This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with

the

> > tantrums. Any suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving

but

> > effective way? Thanks.

> >

> > Pat

> > Mom to Emma (2)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you are asking about what we have done so far for the autism, we have him on

a restricted diet (the whole family follows it for ease and health, now). Our

diet is free of ALL of the following: gluten, casein, dyes,

preservatives/additives, high fructose corn syrup, and nitrates/nitrites. We

limit our soy (because it is bad also) and we try to stay with non GMO soy. So

much of the food today is Genetically Modified (GMO) to increase food supply.

Our son's apraxia, speech grunting and groping along with unintelligible

sounding words began a while after he started walking and talking.

He walked at 15 months like my other children (only one of mine walked at 12

months). He had some speech in sentence form and saying a *few* other words by

18-24 months. I breastfed until 15 months exclusively, then I started regular

food. By age 2, we figured out he had a gluten intolerance by diet elimination

but we did not know why at this point (not Celiac, but gluten intolerance. He

would vomit for days on end.) So, we removed gluten, but continued to give him

dairy. We just found out that despite the allergy testing, which is only 50%

accurate according to the allergist and a hit or miss thing (he told us after

the fact!!) that we have yet another rare condition " true casein allergy " . (We

just discovered that while I was looking into the root cause of the now

unintelligible speech called apraxia. He had been misdiagnosed before age 5 with

" speech delay common to Trisomy 21 DS " , which he did not have, as he has MDS.

Overnight after we removed all sources and foods containing any casein, I

noticed neurological changes and they have been getting progressively better. A

month ago he was able to sign and " say " 'Happy Birthday To You'. He noticed

there were houses other than ours in existence beyond our back yard, and his

speeech is continually improving (so much though that the SLP is RAVING over his

progress). We knew then that the root of his apraxia was regressive autism. So,

we started treating for autism. Before now, doctors ONLY saw his diagnosis of

Down Syndrome, because like many here on this board, they commented, " What is

the difference? Down syndrome is Down Syndrome. " So, now my son was up to 4 rare

conditions: MDS, Apraxia, True Casein Allergy, and now regressive autism. And

there is a difference. Physicians were clouded by a diagnosis of Trisomy 21 Down

syndrome. Once I alerted them and explained the differences in various types of

Down syndrome, they changed their tune and no longer said it was a " speech

delay " ; now, the speech problem had a different diagnosis of " full blown

apraxia " , which requires a VERY DIFFERENT treatment in the eyes of both the

speech therapist and the family. Apraxia requires daily intensive speech therapy

for a very long time; whereas, speech delay is just that, they eventually catch

up. With speech delay, the speech is progressive, but at a slower than usual

pace. By that time, though, more than FIVE years had been *wasted* on a wrong

diagnosis (T21)which ultimately led to another wrong diagnosis (mere speech

delay). Doctors only expected the scenario of " speech delays are commonly

associated with Down Syndrome. " Truth is, developmental delays period are

associated with Trisomy 21, but my son had Mosaic Down Syndrome, which shed a

different light, but the undereducated doctors kept saying " it did not matter "

because they did not know the differences in the types of Down syndrome. They

were unaware that chiildren with MDS *might* have some developmental delays, but

others develop typically along with their peers. My son has a dual diagnosis of

MDS 50% and Autism, which is common. I have recently joined some groups where it

is *very* commonplace, but often goes overlooked until the parents persist. In a

doctor's eyes, Down syndrome is the cause for all of the child's problems. There

is no need to look any further. It is the easy. lazy, and uneducated way out. It

is a catchall answer.

So, back to your original question. Here is my answer: clean up the diet and go

GFCFSF if you can. Remove everything I mentioned above and soy also, if you can.

If you cannot, then at least use CERTIFIED NON-GMO brands of soy products. Use

probiotics that are GFCFSF.

Start with that and give it some time. Do not have any infractions. That means

no eating out fast food as well, as even the fries are cooked in

gluten-contaminated oils. No prepackaged meals unless they specifically say

" gluten free " AND " dairy free " AND " soy free " . Make sure everyone who keeps your

child is on board with " the diet " . As the diet progresses, you may need to add

other supplements, but I do suggest you use a daily multivitamin that is free of

allergens. We use Lil Critters Gummie Vites.

I hope this answers your question because I am not sure why your child continues

to grunt other than he might have a speech disorder and maybe some other dual

diagnosis like my son. (? I really do not know your child, but " you " know your

child and " you " will be the one to alert doctors and be persistent if you feel

something is wrong. If he is not intelligible in at least 15 words at age 10

months, including MAMA and DADA (enunciated correctly), then I would start

speech therapy.

Hope this helps your child.

> > >

> > > From: , - Kenton County

> <cynthia.jones@<cynthia.jones%40kenton.kyschools.us>

> > > >

> > > Subject: RE: Help with Tantrums

> > > To: " MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> " <

> > > MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>>

> > > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:06 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > I used to tell my daughter, " Call me when you're finished " and walk away

> --

> > > all the while monitoring her for safety.

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com> [

> > > MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>] on behalf of Pat [

> > > pat_nakon@ <pat_nakon%40yahoo.com>]

> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:28 PM

> > > To: MosaicDS <mailto:MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> <MosaicDS%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Subject: Help with Tantrums

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Although I have been part of this group for awhile I tend to be a quiet

> > > member. I appreciate all the wonderful information that people share.

> > > I don't initiate a lot of e-mails because I don't get a chance to check

> my

> > > e-mail regularly enough to respond in a timely manner.

> > >

> > > I am having a current challenge that I hope some of the other moms can

> > > share what has worked well for them. My generally good natured two year

> old

> > > daughter, Emma, has started tantrums. My first instinct is hug her close

> and

> > > comfort her. This was always welcomed in the past. It's not working with

> the

> > > tantrums. Any suggestions regarding how to handle tantrums in a loving

> but

> > > effective way? Thanks.

> > >

> > > Pat

> > > Mom to Emma (2)

> > >

> > >