Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Carol says: >>Psychologically, god must evolve because the god-image represents our religious values and our value system that have become outworn and no longer suited for dealing with modern life.<< --I can't speak for Jung, but that's a true statement. God has to change, and old images of God and outdated understandings of God's will produce dysfunctional social movements until the "meek" (i.e. mystics and intellectuals) can channel their new visions powerfully enough to change the pyramid of alpha males and hidden "witches" who dominate the social order. The problem with any revolution is that people willing to use fear as a tool tend to gain ground faster than mystics and intellectuals, often hijacking the information and symbolism they produce. Along with the transformation of God comes transformation in the social order, often translating into cyclical witch-hunts and purity crusades. Our species will wrestle with the new image of God when it seriously takes on the problem of genocide, which represents the most "Satanic" use of religious, ethnic or national identity symbols. People relying on violence to control others often make use of the name of God, and as long as they are dominant, that's the dominant face of God. God becomes Satan if not renewed and revived by a vision, and new visions are generally at a disandvantage relative to the "revealed word" of prophets from past ages and the people who use their words to maintain leverage over others. At some point, a generation emerges that is capable of helping God evolve and become more humane, or the social order collapses. World War II was a consequence of a long-suppressed contradiction in the concept of God, and so is the current decentralized war against terrorism. Islamic conservatives, being among the most "traditional" of believers, are forcing us to look at the sins of the Biblical deity, something we've long avoided. If we're following a God who makes mistakes, acts childishly vengeful or isn't finished with revealed prophesy, then we have responsibility we don't want. Fortunately, the whole thing can be looked at without reference to a literal deity. Once people realize that God is a social balancing mechanism designed to keep the species and individual tribes alive and thriving, they can take responsibility for their images of God and their perception of what God wants. Then, they can act according to what they really believe about God, rather than what they've been told about GOD. The most rebellious generation in history will probably be the one that heals God and makes survival of the species possible. Obedience to authority hasn't gotten us very far, and isn't likely to do much better. If God doesn't become a more individual and personal experience, the darke face of the deity will translate into biological terrorism ("vials of wrath") and other tragically literal correlations to End Times myths. Time as we know it may be at an end, but I don't think it would be smart of God to inspire the destrution of the planet or large segments of the world's population in order to prove scripture correct on the wrong level. Sometimes I wonder if our species is that stupid, but historically, we've used every weapon that came out of our collective mind to manipulate fear in crowds. Power is enhanced by the redistribution of fear, and the more fear in the world, the more willingness to displace it by creating fear in others. It's an almost godlike power, and people who attach themselves to it in God's name are really worshipping their own ego boundary, fearing that God loves their enemies and is disloyal to a cause for which they have sacrificed too much to turn back. That's one reaason we can't ignore terrorism by radical Islamic groups, it is a genuinely fascist movement, and although it's weaker than it realizes, it does have God's darker image on its side. Western civilization is being judged by the same vengeful deity it's been preaching for centuries, and as religion fades out as an influence in the West, monotheists in other parts of the world become more and more convinced we're a Satanic conspiracy to erode their self-discipline and crush the source of their faith. Islamic visionaries and mystics have to hide, they cannot speak openly to the people who are hijacking their religion, so there is lag time between the negative face of Allah and the positive face, and the negative face of Allah brings up the punitive face of the Western God, producing a polarity that affects the entire planet, making it a problem of Biblical (or Quranic) proportions. The meek are still watching TV and hoping the problem goes away, but they are starting to have visions, dreams and premonitions. Not sure how much of it Jung saw, but he saw enough to be considered crazy by more orthodox intellectuals in his time. C. Lockharthttp://www.soulaquarium.netYahoo! Messenger: grailsnailBlog: http://shallowreflections.blogspot.com/"The most dangerous things in the world are immense accumulations of human beings who are manipulated by only a few heads." -- Carl Jung"If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." -- Aird"LOVE PEOPLE AND USE THINGS - NOT LOVE THINGS AND USE PEOPLE." -- Unknown"While many say only God has the authority to forgive men, men are quick to take it upon themselves to judge the sins of other men. Thus, the urge to punish has always had an unfair edge over the impulse for mercy." -- Unknown __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- > Carol says: > >>Psychologically, god must evolve because the god-image represents our > religious values and our value system that have become outworn and no > longer > suited for dealing with modern life.<< > ..>M: Not sure how much of it Jung saw, but he saw enough to be considered crazy by more orthodox intellectuals in his time. ...I think everything you wrote agrees with what Jung said. Oddly enough I was reading him last night and ran across the phrase " vials of wrath... " used in reference to this topic. He definitely feared the possibility of a too literal experience. But I think the unconscious is beginning to offer solutions. My article is for an artist's society. There are painters there who seem to be listening to the unconscious. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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