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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Great poem to offer us, Greg. I have had much synchronicity in my life these days. Almost a year post-Katrina, and I am only now coming up from the depths of the sea to catch a breath. And having gone without for about a year, the tide is turning, and I can't tell you how good it feels to *breathe*!!!!!!! So I associate truth with synchronicity. I sense Truth when I experience it as a memory already inside of me, perhaps I cannot locate it or never will - it remains a memory (mysterious memory!). I realize we never really teach - in the sense that information can be fed to others and swallowed whole. When that happens, and it does!, we take a step away from the Divine Guest. To teach is really to remind. Thank you for reminding me about truth by sending this poem. Now back to attending to this carnal mesh. (though the mortal coil has its advantages also.... Miriam From Paracelsus by Browning TRUTH is within ourselves; it takes no rise From outward things, whateer you may believe. There is an inmost centre in us all, Where truth abides in fullness; and around, Wall upon wall, the gross flesh hems it in, This perfect, clear perceptionwhich is truth. A baffling and perverting carnal mesh Binds it, and makes all error: and, to KNOW, Rather consists in opening out a way Whence the imprisoned splendour may escape, Than in effecting entry for a light Supposed to be without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Nick, I will check out your website. Don't know if I will have much to offer, but sounds like the kind of thing I am enthusiastic about. I'll let you know. Miriam > > I am looking for people with good word skills to bring something to a > new idea in poetrics > > please visit http://www.flickr.com/groups/poetryandpicturesinternational/ > > A little encouragement or participation would help > > at present it is mostly picture makers who find the words hard to conjure with > > cheers > > > > > Nick Owen > > web site <http://www.trans-itions.co.uk/>http://www.trans- itions.co.uk > > also to be found at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wychwood/ > > > > > Why not browse my book of fairy tales: Telling It Like It Is. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0954739000/qid% 3D1114526130/sr%3D1-6/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F8%5F6/202-1414987-5523065 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Dear Dale, When Alice first described to me her definition of educating or teaching, I was pleased to here someone put words to something I have intuited since I can remember. As a child, raised Catholic, I went to catechism and church and somewhere I knew I was hearing lies. (Perhaps that is why I fainted in church so much... In fact, it angered me when they spoke of Jesus, as I felt I " knew " him better. Don't ask me why I sensed that. As I grew I have learned to articulate and own that learning is a process of be-coming ones' unique essence towards Self. I see around me how much of society wants to intervene in this process; how tempting it is to allow it; how many give over their seniority to " those who know. " I have come to the conclusion that I don't believe anything. I don't say this in judgment. I say this with the realization that every human only has their own perspective, their own path. Yet, Truth is universal, and it is the message, no matter, where it comes from, another human or a personal experience, that feeds a soul. When I hear or see the Truth, only then do I truly learn. Otherwise, I imitate. So I spend so much of my adult life UN-learning, and RE-membering.... !!!! Becoming less of a " good girl " and more of a " je ne sais quoi! " and not apologizing for the fact that I am be-coming and that I am not finished. As a mother, I am strongly committed to preserving the Truth inside of our children. Instruction, as Alice says, them to read, write, learn to play an instrument, is a different thing. To institutionalize certain behaviors against their raw nature, well, to me, THAT is a sin. And I don't usually believe in sins. What a path to realize we are all lantern holders, in hopes to shed light on another's truth that they cannot quite see. I have always learned by watching the way people create. I watch on a different level. I see it energetically, and then I learn. I seldom learn by studying and memorizing. I get frustrated with the school systems - and this is a hot topic for me since my son started a new school, a high school even though he is in eighth grade, and it seems like college. He does homework for two to three hours afterwards, and even I can't explain to him why he has to spend most of his life marching around. Though, he scores in the 99th percentile and college levels on his SATs and he loves learning, he does not like school, and I know why. Katrina has been the biggest teacher I have ever had, to be honest. I am just now starting to forgive her, and not feel incredible hatred for her. I am not proud to admit this, as I never suspected I could feel this way. I put a face on her that was very personal, and have spent all year fighting her. When I found her inside of myself the worm began to turn, and that is only recently. I was faced with one of the biggest life force challenges I have ever had, and I did not think I was going to make it - psychically, I mean, and even at times, physically. Katrina continues to kill so many down here - suicides by all types of people, even those you would never suspect. A Jungian analyst here admitted when asked how he helps his clients regarding Katrina. He became very somber and seemed hesitant to say: " I spend most of my time convincing my clients not to commit suicide. " I have joined the suicide hotline - at first to help myself. Now I see how the hurricane is a psychic phenomenon that gives us all the opportunity to transform. If we don't work through this and take this chance, hard as it is, it will break us. After a year, I was able to pull the sword from my own soil. I felt intuitively that was what I needed to do, but could not. The sword seemed to almost pulse and call, but I did not have the energy. It is amazing how the biggest obstacle of challenges is that they tease us away from continuing to do our inner work. When I finally had the strength and when I actually REMEMBERED! that I had tools to help myself, it took just a little work, and I now hold the sword. It is only one sword, but it has my name on it. There are many more to find. Ironically, it has helped me forgive Katrina and even thank her for giving me the opportunity to face so much in myself that I have been asking to face for years. It's easy to ask for that, but we never know what we have to create in order to actually make those changes. Obviously, I had a tremendous amount of ghosts and karma to purge that I wasn't even aware of. Good thing I didn't know, otherwise I might have never asked to grow...... !!!!!!! I have said too much. Dale, I would love to know why you think we " forget " and need to remember. We ARE the answer. Others are here to remind us. Enough words...... > > Miriam, > > I like so much your reminder that to teach is to remind. > > To teach is from linguistic roots that convey the meaning of " to show, " or " to say. " > > To educate is from roots that convey the meaning of " to be led out. " > > The former implies that the person is an empty vessel being filled. > > The latter implies an already full student who is being assisted to know what s/he already knows. > > Browning apparently knows well what it means to educate: " opening out a way. " > > If I might be so bold, it seems to me that the event of returning to breathing following a year in the watery depths, is an epiphany that arises from being led out of from the Divine Guest. Your return, in turn, reminds me to breathe. > > Thank you for being my educator! > > Dale > > re: poem for the day > > Great poem to offer us, Greg. > > I have had much synchronicity in my life these days. Almost a year > post-Katrina, and I am only now coming up from the depths of the sea > to catch a breath. And having gone without for about a year, the > tide is turning, and I can't tell you how good it feels to > *breathe*!!! !!!! > > So I associate truth with synchronicity. I sense Truth when I > experience it as a memory already inside of me, perhaps I cannot > locate it or never will - it remains a memory (mysterious memory!). > I realize we never really teach - in the sense that information can > be fed to others and swallowed whole. When that happens, and it > does!, we take a step away from the Divine Guest. To teach is > really to remind. > > Thank you for reminding me about truth by sending this poem. Now > back to attending to this carnal mesh. (though the mortal coil has > its advantages also.... > > Miriam > > From Paracelsus > > by Browning > > TRUTH is within ourselves; it takes no rise From outward things, > whateer you may believe. > There is an inmost centre in us all, > Where truth abides in fullness; and around, > Wall upon wall, the gross flesh hems it in, > This perfect, clear perceptionwhich is truth. > A baffling and perverting carnal mesh > Binds it, and makes all error: and, to KNOW, Rather consists in > opening out a way > Whence the imprisoned splendour may escape, > Than in effecting entry for a light > Supposed to be without. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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