Re: Re: imago dei

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Dear Alice,

As long as we have an image we have an "other".In unity there is only One. Sooner or later we will have to let go of our images, however helpful they were at some time and place.

We live in duality here in this world today, but we can come to union, not by our work, but by grace, and that is not in any way duality. Sooner or later, if blessed, we realize that no image even can get close to Infinite Mystery of G-d...it is not "something out there" it is forever while we are here beyond the cloud of unknowing.

We actually have not any way of imagining G-d.

Now, I certainly can understand we have to start with images, just as we talk to others as objects separated from ourselves. That's how we seem to be fashioned..object and subject. I cannot address myself very easily, so I address G-d as Other.

Good beginning, but to me there is further to go. Even the kingdom of G-d within gives place to our being at last in union. I think of delving into G-d, being of G-d. All this beyond our human power, but not beyond our ability to seek.

I do agree that everyone has whatever imagines suits them, and what helps one is not the same as helps another....no right or wrong that we can judge.

But we must, in my opinion reach much further when G-d calls...and we cannot see past "nothingness" No image can be made of it. ( I know I tried to end up with a blank wall, at first...that isn't it at all, I soon learned. Once we have "realized" the G-d within, isn't it is time to give up images, comforting as they seem....that at least is my experience and groping knowing.

No I wouldn't quarrel with anyone, but I would say. I see reality differently.But don't stop there...There is more .We do not go...we are carried there....wherever "there" is or whatever IS.

I so fear we put limits on what we tell or teach others because we feel "maybe they cannot understand" "they aren't ready" or whatever other roadblock we put in their way.....maybe after all silence is the best route...I wonder.

I needed and need the guidance of great saints,( of all traditions) not because I will follow them exactly, one cannot, but because they point the way to going deeper, again only with grace. But I would not like someone to become quiet just when I need to hear this is not all, don't be afraid.( It is like believing "enlightenment is all" when even that has different grades of being. We need to know we can go further without fear,as others before us have if G-d so wills.

So no I have nothing against images, formulas, sacred places, and symbols, they are great pointers on the way....but the day comes when we must leave them behind...so I think, personally.Then we face the void once again.

love,

Toni

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Jung said the best we can do is approach our Self [Divine Guest] is thru our unique image of God. This quote is priceless - please share it wherever you can!

“We say that if a temple, or a symbol, or an image helps you to realize the Divine within, you are welcome to it. Have two hundred images if you like. If certain forms and formulas help you to realize the Divine, God speed you; have, by all means, whatever forms, temples, whatever ceremonies you want to bring you nearer to God. But do not quarrel about them; the moment you quarrel, you are not going Godward, you are going backward towards the brutes.â€

Vivekananda

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>So no I have nothing against images, formulas, sacred places, and symbols,

>they are great pointers on the way....but the day >comes when we must leave

>them behind...so I think, personally.Then we face the void once again.

Toni...I would really like to understand you here. Do you disagree with Jung

that the image is the way that the spirit communicates its purpose to us?

Also, would you abandon the dream, another image? Or perhaps you're speaking

of something one must be older to understand?

Carol

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FWIW, my idea of "image" or "Imago Dei" is essentially like the icons on our computer desktops. We can see them, they have meaning for us, we can even click on them to get some sort of result, but they point to a much bigger program that we know works but that most of us can't even begin to imagine how to describe.

Blissings,

Sam

Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung (from a letter to Fanny Bowditch, dated 22 Oct 1916 in Volume I of the Letters of C. G. Jung)A dream is an answer to a question we haven't yet learned how to ask. ~ Fox Mulder on the X-FilesJust because I believe something doesn't mean it's true; just because I don't believe something doesn't mean it's untrue. ~ Sam

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Dear Carol,

In my understanding, image is a beginning. In most traditions, the point becomes that there is no possible way we can even imagine that which is beyond the "cloud of Unknowing". Meister Eckhart and many mystics as Merton, Dame n, of the Cross, St .....and much of the tradition agrees.

Sure we begin with an "other" an image to which we can relate. That is the way Human beings communicate..and how we pray before we contemplate.

It takes 2 for a conversation.

But G-d does not dwell in duality..or so those whom I follow believe from all traditions. Sooner or later we must come to the understanding that we are in G-d, individually as most westerners believe or as One whole as others believe. In any case we live in a dualistic world, G-d does not.

Contemplation leads to Union. There are not 2 when one contemplates and has been graced. That is what the urge toward UNION is all about. Somewhere along the line we surrender, if we have the grace. We surrender our self-image, our willfulness as St put it...and maybe most of our ego???. How we become g-ds, or part of G-d, i leave to those that want to delineate the ways of the ALL.

Age, has nothing to do with it, I think, though most persons need to be in the second half of life before they actually understand what surrender means. You have to have a self image before you can surrender it.( and ego????

I expect the Spirit begins with images...to get our attention, maybe for some that is enough. But the Spirit communicates in other ways soon..,.luminosity, feeling ,a sense of knowing, a sense of dread, or of awe.

I don't agree or disagree with Jung because I do not think he was thinking along those lines in his writing until the end and MDR leaves it open-ended.

Dreams are dreams, I cannot believe they do not have a purpose. I am sure they do, but whether many are able to discern the purpose besides compensation, I have no idea. The unconscious is part of us, after all.

Sooner or at last, all images must go. We have been open to paradox with Jung, now we need to be open to mystery....trust and hope do well in Mystery. Union is a very special type of awareness given totally, not earned not acquired. many people talk a good game, but are really afraid of a complete surrender...I know I was. And whose who contemplate are given this gift...and it too is mystery.

Enlightenment, I assume can be earned. It is not what I am talking about, but it is on the way, I think...and images do not have a presence there...

Anyway, the Spirit communicates as he wishes, not as anyone decides, and certainly images are part of it. Pointers toward Something...not Something, and we will have to give them up when Truth, all of it, not just a part as in images, stands before us.

You know there are some young in years people and middle-aged and old people whose aim is to penetrate what they do not understand.

Does this help and answer your question at all???

Toni

Re: Re: imago dei

----- Original Message ----- From: "vienna19311" <Vienna19311verizon (DOT) net>>So no I have nothing against images, formulas, sacred places, and symbols, >they are great pointers on the way....but the day >comes when we must leave >them behind...so I think, personally.Then we face the void once again.Toni...I would really like to understand you here. Do you disagree with Jung that the image is the way that the spirit communicates its purpose to us? Also, would you abandon the dream, another image? Or perhaps you're speaking of something one must be older to understand?Carol

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FWIW, my idea of "image" or "Imago Dei" is essentially like the icons on our computer desktops. We can see them, they have meaning for us, we can even click on them to get some sort of result, but they point to a much bigger program that we know works but that most of us can't even begin to imagine how to describe.

Wonderful analoigy! Heavenly desktop!

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>Wonderful analoigy! Heavenly desktop!

Thanks. Can make you view your desktop in a whole new light, huh?

Blissings,

Sam

The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. ~Gloria SteinemThe best mind-altering drug is truth. ~Lily Tomlin

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Dear all,

Here are a few quotes I received from another list today that relate to our

Imago Dei discussion. Any comments?

1. It is no accident that Sufis find that they can connect most constructively

with people who are well integrated into the world, as well as having higher

aims, and that those who adopt a sensible attitude towards society and life as

generally known can usually absorb Sufi teachings very well indeed. (Idries

Shah)

2. I distrust the legends which are told about most gurus by the disciples; they

all exaggerate because they have stopped seeking truth. ( Brunton)

3. To live truly is to live within the purity of each new moment, untouched by

distorting memories about ourselves. (Vernon )

4. God does not ask anything else of you except that you let yourself go and let

God be God in you. (Meister Eckhart)

5. Man stands between the visible and the invisible sides of the universe,

related to one through his senses, and to the other through his inner nature.

(Maurice Nicoll)

6. It is always with us, but there must be an opening of the heart to it, and

though it is always there, yet it is only felt and found by those who are

attentive to it, depend upon, and humbly wait for it. ( Law)

7. To live according to a formula, to an ideology, to a foreseeable conclusion,

is to live a life of adjustment, imitation, conformity, therefore a life of

opposition, duality, endless conflict and confusion. (J. Krishnamurti)

Greg

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Hi all,

I can only imagine that separation from image is a preparation for death.

As for me, I cling gratefully to image for it is life.

Do I begin to understand you, Toni?

Carol

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Dear carol,

Perhaps it is a kind of death...that is what surrender means. We do have to die to self, or so we have been told.

And from where I sit, carol, clinging to my own self-image or my willfulness is exactly what i am trying to stop.One cannot contemplate as long as one sees, feel, hears an image...that is the whole point of meditation.

If you read the last parts of MDR you will not find me so far different that the great man this list is supposedly about.

Images cannot be Truth...they may be a small tiny part of truth...is that enough? or is that which is actually NO thing? That which we cannot even imagine???

You don't need to pay any attention to what I or anyone else say...you are in charge of your own way. I was only trying to dig a little deeper...the surface cannot contain it...and our imagination cannot take us somewhere totally new.

I am not very far out of the spiritual tradition best known in the west, but the East says the same thing. I sure didn't make up all, that I am writing...I try to speak from my reading, hearing and actual experiences.

Toni

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Hi all,I can only imagine that separation from image is a preparation for death. As for me, I cling gratefully to image for it is life.Do I begin to understand you, Toni?Carol

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>Meditation's goal is cessation of thought, but this can be >repression, so watching your thought w/o mental comment to arrive at >an unconditional mind is a better choice of words.

I just read something the other day: The stopping of all thought and being aware is meditation; the stopping of all thought and being unaware is deep sleep.

Blissings,

Sam

Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung (from a letter to Fanny Bowditch, dated 22 Oct 1916 in Volume I of the Letters of C. G. Jung)A dream is an answer to a question we haven't yet learned how to ask. ~ Fox Mulder on the X-FilesJust because I believe something doesn't mean it's true; just because I don't believe something doesn't mean it's untrue. ~ Sam

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Toni,

I " m familiar with what you say being the Eastern approach but I wasn't aware

of Jung having similar thoughts. I'm curious about what in MDR you're

thinking of.

And don't worry, I know I don't have to pay attention - I just have this

huge curiosity. Guess my initials weren't CAT for a few decades for nuthin.

But the images i referred to weren't really self-image but images provided

by the spirit (at least as Jung defined it) and you're so right that each

image can only be a part of the truth and one might also get that small part

wrong.

What has always confused me -- you speak of contemplation (thought?)

doesn't thought require the image? Isn't every thought first an image in the

unconscious?

Carol

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Dear carol,

Perhaps it is a kind of death...that is what surrender means. We do have to

die to self, or so we have been told.

And from where I sit, carol, clinging to my own self-image or my willfulness

is exactly what i am trying to stop.One cannot contemplate as long as one

sees, feel, hears an image...that is the whole point of meditation.

If you read the last parts of MDR you will not find me so far different that

the great man this list is supposedly about.

Images cannot be Truth...they may be a small tiny part of truth...is that

enough? or is that which is actually NO thing? That which we cannot even

imagine???

You don't need to pay any attention to what I or anyone else say...you are

in charge of your own way. I was only trying to dig a little deeper...the

surface cannot contain it...and our imagination cannot take us somewhere

totally new.

I am not very far out of the spiritual tradition best known in the west,

but the East says the same thing. I sure didn't make up all, that I am

writing...I try to speak from my reading, hearing and actual experiences.

Toni

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Dear carol...quickly...

The contemplation I am talking about is a Catholic term for the end of meditation which those who practice it hope to lead to union...if G-d wills.

Meditation is used to set the mind free from thoughts, even a little bit as it is so hard to stop all thoughts. Contemplation follows and there too, the mind is devoid of images...We sit in silence, with as clear a mind of thought as is possible and gaze at Nothing. No images...we let go of anything "we" do...we sit and await (having prepared ourselves in prayer before) If G-d wills we will get to union with him in the twinkling of an eye....and for an instance. That's as close as one can get while human. And he does it all. We cannot.

If G-d is no thing.....spirit...and any images come through us, we want no images, no ego ( sorry Alice, maybe a teeny bit, though I am not sure) and the same void as the east which brings what they call samadi...I guess. But we are united always we just aren't aware of it, so contemplation leads to awareness of the Unknown GO-do and to Christians, Son and Spirit.

Images provided by the Spirit seem iffy to me, and great discernment needs to be.It is usually the human spirit, not the Divine unless intuition has told us differently and discernment too.

My approach is mostly Western, but I note the similarities with Eastern. All religions have mystics who meditate and contemplate ( in the spiritual meaning of that word)

The idea is to get oneself out of the way.....

Jung had some interesting experiences near the end of his life, by the way. And he ended it with acceptance.

Gotta go, they are trying to take the computer out of my hands.

Toni

Re: Re: imago deiDear carol,Perhaps it is a kind of death...that is what surrender means. We do have to die to self, or so we have been told.And from where I sit, carol, clinging to my own self-image or my willfulness is exactly what i am trying to stop.One cannot contemplate as long as one sees, feel, hears an image...that is the whole point of meditation.If you read the last parts of MDR you will not find me so far different that the great man this list is supposedly about.Images cannot be Truth...they may be a small tiny part of truth...is that enough? or is that which is actually NO thing? That which we cannot even imagine???You don't need to pay any attention to what I or anyone else say...you are in charge of your own way. I was only trying to dig a little deeper...the surface cannot contain it...and our imagination cannot take us somewhere totally new.I am not very far out of the spiritual tradition best known in the west, but the East says the same thing. I sure didn't make up all, that I am writing...I try to speak from my reading, hearing and actual experiences.Toni

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Re: Re: imago dei

In a message dated 9/1/2006 8:56:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bljh@...

writes:

>Meditation's goal is cessation of thought, but this can be

>repression, so watching your thought w/o mental comment to arrive at

>an unconditional mind is a better choice of words.

I just read something the other day: The stopping of all thought and being

aware is meditation; the stopping of all thought and being unaware is deep

sleep.

Blissings,

Sam

N: What I think I'm reading here is about 'mindfullness' which I've been

trying to practice for some time. Oddly enough I woke this morning from a

dream in which 'I' was all the characters. very confusing to note down ;-)

I'm think this dream was an actualization of midfullness in which on

observes all thoughts, feeling etc. as they occur but without making any

judgemnt on any event.

Velly interesting. . .

Blessings,

Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper Sticker

Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Choose your illusion carefully. ~ Unknown

Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung (from a

letter to Fanny Bowditch, dated 22 Oct 1916 in Volume I of the Letters of C.

G. Jung)

A dream is an answer to a question we haven't yet learned how to ask. ~ Fox

Mulder on the X-Files

Just because I believe something doesn't mean it's true; just because I

don't believe something doesn't mean it's untrue. ~ Sam

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N: What I think I'm reading here is about 'mindfullness' which I've been trying to practice for some time. Oddly enough I woke this morning from a dream in which 'I' was all the characters. very confusing to note down ;-) I'm think this dream was an actualization of midfullness in which on observes all thoughts, feeling etc. as they occur but without making any judgemnt on any event.

* Hi Sam,, All:

That's how I think of mindfulness. I've been meditating much of my adult life in one form or another and think of it as a time to observe and be present with whatever is there. If thoughts come we witness them and let them pass, same as emotions, sensations, etc...and bring the awareness back to the breath....but there's no conscious effort to stop ourselves from having thoughts...that would be counterproductive....Nothing to do but "watch and breath" is what I was taught...and eventyually the "watcher" also disappears into the ground of all being....As we observe the nature and frequency of our thoughts, the quality of mind does change; there may be periods of silence and inner peace but more often it takes effort and is work, constantly bringing the awareness back to the breath. There may be periods of inner peace and silence but I think of that as the fruit of our efforts, not the goal....Meditation is for its own sake and doesn't really work if we're looking for a result....I'm sure Mike and others would have much to contribute here. .

lazy musings on a Friday afternoon....

Suzanne

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That's how I think of mindfulness. I've been meditating much of my adult life in one form or another and think of it as a time to observe and be present with whatever is there.

Hi Jung-Fire folks,

I've been reading this discussion of the week and it keeps reminding me of a post or two I made at the dedication of this "Sacred Space" in cyberspace by some of the now rare contributors still here. The fact that it has lasted so long says a lot about its durable construction don't you think? Imagery is very important to our ability to conceive and convey our perceptions of the world around us and not just our particular view of Deity. So when I come here, the first image that I usually see in my mind is a "Doorway" or Portico with two columns supporting a lintel roof overhead and a threshold below. The craftsmanship of this structure is as beautiful as it is solid in that it has weathered many brainstorms and sometimes heated controversial discussions. But what it has mostly endured is the vagaries of the world we live in which has changed much since it's initial dedication. And so, that I think is the best reason for it's continued existence,,literally a "Shelter from the Storm".

Toni made a very good remark at the beginning of this discussion which prompted my memory just mentioned. The keyword she mentioned was "Grace", by which we are quite literally "allowed" perceptions of our creator in the first place, which are usually fleeting and ever changing ones, mostly due to our continued ability to see more of the world we live in. And this ability to see more continues to grow as well, both macro and microscopically, so that we are a lot more fortunate than perhaps our ancestors in this regard. That doesn't make us any more intelligent however. I've come to believe that certain ancient souls ability to perceive and construct words and images to express their visions of a creator and the created world around us hasn't been rivaled since then. Since many of our words we still use daily without any further contemplation about how and where they came from, originated in the Greek culture, which influenced the later Latin cultures of the Western hemisphere, I tend to give them more emphasis in my personal work. And this very word "Grace" in its original Greek form is "Xaris", from which also the later word "Charity" was derived. Now this particular word has a now very controversial numerical value, being none other than "911". It is the same value as the second word I mentioned in my original dedication post as "Omphalos", or Navel. Now there's something to meditate on eh Brita? The coming week marks the 5th. anniversary of a more tragic and ominous use of that particular number value in our consciousness once again so I think it should be considered as a basis for many of the current discussions including "suicide bombers" etc. which would not have been much of an issue previous to this event do you think? But once again, I digress from the current topic of "Imagery of Deity", which causes so much consternation in human understanding, as well as a lot of unnecessary conflicts. Most unusual I find, is that one of the original words meant to express Deity in the ancient Greek culture was "Pantokrator", creator of All. The value of this word is twice 911 or 1822. There's another very interesting numerical fact expressed by this value in the very real world around us, but I think I will save that for another post subject later.

What a Marvel is this world however tragic it sometimes becomes eh?

Best,

W. Dail

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Can anyone point me in the direction of learning more about where "squaring the circle" came from, and some of the reconciliations that have been made?Joe

Hi Joe,

You don't have to look much further than the world we live in for that original perception. The ancients both knew and understood that a square containing the sphere of the Earth has an equal circumference in a circle made from the combined radii of the Earth and Moon. It doesn't matter which measurement unit one uses, as it is simply a matter of geometric Ratio.

Cheers,

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>But once again, I digress from the current topic

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>What a Marvel is this world however tragic it sometimes becomes eh?

Absolutely!

But since I think one-liners, while sometimes very heartfelt, are not always the best way to respond, let me say, , that I sometimes, maybe more often than not, have difficulty following your posts and at other times I really, really like your digressions! Thanks for this one.

I particularly enjoyed the word derivations and the fascinating connection to numerology. I don't know that I'll draw any conclusions from it but it's fascinating all the same.

Blissings,

Sam

Don't believe everything you think. ~ Bumper StickerMany of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view. ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi Choose your illusion carefully. ~ UnknownWho looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. ~ C.G. Jung (from a letter to Fanny Bowditch, dated 22 Oct 1916 in Volume I of the Letters of C. G. Jung)A dream is an answer to a question we haven't yet learned how to ask. ~ Fox Mulder on the X-FilesJust because I believe something doesn't mean it's true; just because I don't believe something doesn't mean it's untrue. ~ Sam

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Meditation is a huge subject... Hard to pin down, in a sense, if done correctly (large topic in itself) helps the small s self (ego) to connect to the big S Self... This is how I think of it.Seemingly Mercury & Sophia's territory........

Can anyone point me in the direction of learning more about where " squaring the circle " came from, and some of the reconciliations that have been made?Joe

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Can some one elaborate on this? " Abraxas speaketh that hallowed and accursed word which is life and

death at the same time. Abraxas begetteth truth and lying, good and

evil, light and darkness in the same word and in the same act.

Wherefore is Abraxas terrible. " -Jung (The Seven Sermons to the Dead)I found it totally out of the blue on the web, and am wondering which word he is talking about here? The sacred word that only came out of the Temple once a year?

Thanks a ton!Joe

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In a message dated 9/1/2006 11:02:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nancysmith_1@... writes:

N: What I think I'm reading here is about 'mindfullness' which I've been

trying to practice for some time. Oddly enough I woke this morning from a

dream in which 'I' was all the characters. very confusing to note down ;-)

I'm think this dream was an actualization of midfullness in which on

observes all thoughts, feeling etc. as they occur but without making any

judgemnt on any event.

* Hi Sam,, All:

That's how I think of mindfulness. I've been meditating much of my adult

life in one form or another and think of it as a time to observe and be

present with whatever is there. If thoughts come we witness them and let

them pass, same as emotions, sensations, etc...and bring the awareness back

to the breath....but there's no conscious effort to stop ourselves from

having thoughts...that would be counterproductive....Nothing to do but

" watch and breath " is what I was taught...and eventyually the " watcher " also

disappears into the ground of all being....As we observe the nature and

frequency of our thoughts, the quality of mind does change; there may be

periods of silence and inner peace but more often it takes effort and is

work, constantly bringing the awareness back to the breath. There may be

periods of inner peace and silence but I think of that as the fruit of our

efforts, not the goal....Meditation is for its own sake and doesn't really

work if we're looking for a result....I'm sure Mike and others would have

much to contribute here. .

lazy musings on a Friday afternoon....

Suzanne

N: It might be stretching to call what I'm currently doing meditation -

though I know what you mean (I think) from practicing TM.

What I'm doing now is trying to be mindful a great deal of my waking

time. To focus in a detailed way on what goes on both outside and inside -

leading a mindful life.

Not so easy for this falling off the edge Intuitive who's spent most of

life prefering to ignore details and operate on automatic during most

Sensation type stuff.

Blessings,

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So when I come here, the first image that I usually see in my mind is a "Doorway" or Portico with two columns supporting a lintel roof overhead and a threshold below. The craftsmanship of this structure is as beautiful as it is solid in that it has weathered many brainstorms and sometimes heated controversial discussions. But what it has mostly endured is the vagaries of the world we live in which has changed much since it's initial dedication. And so, that I think is the best reason for it's continued existence,,literally a "Shelter from the Storm".

* What a beautiful image, ....I sort of think of myself as a member of this clan. ..not even sure how I found my way here but I feel blessed and at home. It's been my honor to meet some of you, Alice, Mike, Greg and Deb and Phoebe and others I've met on line..and also feel connected to.....it's a place to sometimes bathe in waters way over my head, to sometimes rub off the rough edges, most often it's a place to curl up and be....it's a good place... Suzanne

"Treat people as if they were what they ought to be, and you can help them become what they are capable of being." _ Goethe

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N: It might be stretching to call what I'm currently doing meditation - though I know what you mean (I think) from practicing TM.What I'm doing now is trying to be mindful a great deal of my waking time. To focus in a detailed way on what goes on both outside and inside - leading a mindful life.Not so easy for this falling off the edge Intuitive who's spent most of life prefering to ignore details and operate on automatic during most Sensation type stuff.

Hi :

I try to live mindfully also and like you I'm an intuitive type with a tendency to get quite expansive and ahead of myself...so focusing on the details, observing each breath as often as I can remember to is meditation in action for me...when I get too busy and find myself functioning on automatic pilot I take five minutes to meditate...sometimes several times a day. If nothing else it slows down time and helps me work much more eficently....good stuff this mindfulness....I also teach it and use it in my therapy practice which kind of forces me to stay honest....you can't teach what you don't practice....

Love and Blessings:

Suzanne