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Oh mannnnnnn! That is sad to hear.

However, I have heard to give gluten a good 3 weeks to clear out of

the system. Does his regression seem like it has slowed down any?

Please post on how the metals test come out. I would be very

interested in finding out if he is really metal toxic of not.

Take care,

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Hi Beth,

I have a 10 yr. old Aspie son who used to hand flap a

lot, no more, I believe your son will grow out of it.

What has helped my son is 1 tsp. of Carlson's cod

liver with dinner daily and chelated magnesium, I use

Magnesium Taurate from Cardiovascular REsearch, he

takes (1) 100mg. in morning before school and one at

night. See if that would help, regular magnesium

doesnt even get absorbed, you need chelated (attached

to an amino acid), good luck, Juli

--- Beth Mouser <mouser4@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thanks for taking the time to share with me. I

> actually have tried

> enzymes in the past (all of Houston's including

> No-Fenol) and now I

> am trying Super Digestive Enzymes from longevity. I

> just really

> haven't seen hardly any difference with any of my

> interventions.

> Maybe my son handflaps and stims 10% less or not

> quite as intensely

> when he is on GFCF. I didn't notice any difference

> when I added the

> enzymes to this diet. However, I did not give the

> enzymes before

> everything he ate...only at his meals. And my son

> grazes and snacks

> alot, so I would need to change this if I was going

> to try Houston's

> again. I would like to get him off of the diet

> again, without any

> worsening. I am treating yeast and bacteria with

> many supplements

> per Yasko's protocol.

>

> Because I have not had much success with enzymes or

> diet, I am really

> wanting to go after viral or chelation and I am

> exploring which one

> of each of these to pursue. -When we started

> supplements and GFCF

> diet, my son was 5--now he is 11 years old. He has

> been very

> cooperative and trusting me to help him, and I

> almost feel like I

> have somehow let him down. I feel though that I

> will eventually be

> able to help him with his handflapping problem and

> will persist.

>

> Thanks again,

> Beth

>

> -- In , " jornmatt "

> <kjorn@t...> wrote:

> > Well, they do go sort of together in both stress

> the body, immune

> > system, and your health. It probably isn't a clean

> line down the

> > middle. When I am in that situation, I weigh two

> real-world issues:

> > what seems the most serious for my child, and what

> can I get going

> > the easiest first.

> >

> > Doing digestive enzymes is similar in that enzymes

> are often and

> > easier quicker way to get some improvement in

> health right away

> while

> > you are pursuing other more complex, long-term

> measures. Do you

> have

> > reason to think that either toxins or virus is

> more serious than

> the

> > other? Chances are that as soon as you start

> dealing with one, the

> > body can naturally start using its energy to work

> on the other.

> >

> > What sort of results or changes are you seeing

> from Yasko's

> > supplements so far (and what are they intended to

> accomplish?).

> >

> > As for the choices in virus treatment, I would say

> the one that is

> > easiest for you to do with the least negative

> potential side-

> effects.

> > For example, if your child has a compromised liver

> (which might be

> > there due to toxins or malnutrition), then Valtrex

> wouldn't be a

> good

> > option.

> >

> > And you can do more than one at a time, which

> might actually give

> you

> > better results. Say...try the virastop along with

> some added

> vitamin

> > A. maybe when you get to some viral 'die-off', you

> can toss in some

> > olive leaf extract to help this along.

> >

> > Since enzymes help other meds and supplements work

> better (and

> yeast

> > and bacteria treatments), I think you would want

> that in there at

> > least so some extent.

> >

> > .>>>>Is this any safer than Valtrex? What is the

> difference? Can

> it

> > stress the liver?

> >

> > Enzymes are usually safer than prescription meds

> because they are

> > more 'natural' and one of the ways our bodies deal

> with pathogens

> > anyway. Read over this explanation of the

> situation.

> >

> > http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm

> >

> >

> > >.>> Can I do any of the above while I am

> detoxing. I am thinking

> > about using DMSA and then ALA. I tried several

> months of oral

> DMPS,

> > and my son got mouth sores. The same thing

> happened with TD-DMPS.

> >

> > I would focus on either the viruses or the detox

> one at a time just

> > so your child's system isn't overly stressed.

> Because the detox can

> > take years, the virus might be something to do

> first because it

> tends

> > to be quicker.

> >

> > >>>> My biggest goal, though, is to get my son's

> bacteria and yeast

> > issues cleared up and do a CDSA to confirm. Then

> I want to take

> him

> > off the diet and try enzymes. He is so tired of

> this diet. His

> core

> > issue is handflapping, jumping, and making noises.

> When he isn't

> > doing this, he is normal...diagnosed Asperger's.

> >

> > Beth, if you aren't doing enzymes now, I would

> suggest that first

> > instead of last. The enzymes can make all your

> other efforts,

> > supplements and meds work much much better. Have

> you tried adding

> in

> > Peptizyde or something to your diets? Food

> eliminations do not

> > necessarily heal the gut at all, which might be

> the problem.

> Enzymes

> > have a known ability to heal tissue, so it is

> pro-active healing

> > element. This healing is in addition to food

> breakdown.

> >

> > Try turning your program upside down. Do enzymes

> first, whole-foods

> > or diet if you like - this will help the body to

> get the most

> > nutrition out of foods, minimize stress on the

> immune system, and

> > give it more ability to deal with other healing.

> Then tackle

> viruses,

> > then additional or more aggressive detox measures.

> >

> > You can be doing some 'gentler' detox with epsoms

> salts and such if

> > you aren't doing that already.

> >

> > www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm

> >

> > You know, the way a lot of people in this group do

> the gut healing

> > may not be the trendiest or glamorous way

> (certainly not the most

> > expensive), but our success rate is really high,

> and much higher

> than

> > many other measures.

> >

> > .

>

>

>

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Thanks Beth for the offer.

I like your web site and especially liked that your grandma saved the

letters from your mom, then passed them down. What a beautiful

priceless thing to do. I can only imagine what it would be like to

read about your childhood through the eyes of your mom in the

letters. What a wonderful gift!

Talk to you soon.:)

love/peace,

Ebony

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