Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Oh , please don't take me wrong- There is NO excuse for his behavior and the way he spoke to Shaun. I totally like Shaun (heck- so far I like everyone except ******). And you would never hear me speak like that. I was just trying to figure out why he would have an outburst like that. Â Sandy ________________________________ To: " Hugs-N-Pain " <Hugs-N-Pain > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 2:50:45 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject) Â I'm sorry sandy but we all take different drugs on this group and no one else is nasty like that thing is, there is no excuse what so ever to be nasty to Shaun Sent from my iPhone x > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > > To: Hugs-N-Pain > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... > To: mnbranch08@... > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I know I didn't mean it to sound nasty my ex husband was a evil man and he blamed the drink and drugs he use to take like cocaine and ecstasy pills and he was constantly blaming the drink but he was just an evil twisted man. I know you wasn't being nasty I apologise I wasn't being nasty at all Sent from my iPhone x > Oh , please don't take me wrong- There is NO excuse for his behavior and the > way he spoke to Shaun. I totally like Shaun (heck- so far I like everyone except > ******). And you would never hear me speak like that. I was just trying to > figure out why he would have an outburst like that. > > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > > To: " Hugs-N-Pain " <Hugs-N-Pain > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 2:50:45 AM > Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject) > > > I'm sorry sandy but we all take different drugs on this group and no one else is > nasty like that thing is, there is no excuse what so ever to be nasty to Shaun > > Sent from my iPhone > x > > > > > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > > > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > > alcoholic. > > > > Sandy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: donnie3024@... > > To: mnbranch08@... > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > > To: Hugs-N-Pain > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... > To: mnbranch08@... > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Over the years I have been a member of alot of groups, even moderated a few, but this is the first time I have seen a group that lets a member make personal attacks on other members and still remain within the group. This is not about who is lesbian and who is not, its about a member who is completely intolerant and yet able to remain within the group to further spread his hate. This life is full of enough drama and those of us who suffer with pain come here for support....your kind of bigotry and homophobia has no place here or anywhere, but since it is allowed I will withdrawl my membership from the group. -- Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... > To: mnbranch08@... > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your pain, pills, doctors or other medical crapâ€â€¦. I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay†is like saying, don’t talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Beh Of donnie Gibbs Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM To: Hugs-N-Pain Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > To: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > To: mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 This just occurred to me, and wrote it….while inspired by the recent events, it’s something that’s been in my head for a while…. I am a person in pain. I am a person with RSD, Fibromyalgia, nerve damage, an enlarged heart and Chronic Hep C I am a person who takes Narcotics, not to get high, but to get by I am a person who is an animal rescue person, an animal lover and a woman who cares about all life I am a person who doesn’t find love in specific genders, I love a person, not a gender I am a person who is Pagan, but I find acceptance of all beliefs to be honorable. , god, Jehovah, Allah, are all names for faith I am a person who believes that all life is precious and all people have value I am a person, made up by different parts, but not defined by those parts. I am a person. I am me Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Behalf Of Marta Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:01 PM To: Hugs-N-Pain Subject: RE: Fwd: (no subject)/ While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your pain, pills, doctors or other medical crapâ€â€¦. I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay†is like saying, don’t talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Beh Of donnie Gibbs Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM To: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > To: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > To: mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 marta you are 100 rite i am sorry barb and shauwn you two are lucky to have each other i wish you 2 the best i it is inportent to have are mates i amlike marta i am getting ready for to have a stemulater put in i dont need all this i am moveing on marta willlike hereing this good by everbody barb and shauwn i am rilly sorry i sead stuff i should not have > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > To: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > To: mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I dont have a problem with lesbians or gays but I have been judged by some for being straight but we have had this list a long time and I am not a babysitter u can block someone on the list and not see what they say if u like this has been a rough year for me In a message dated 1/23/2011 9:01:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, myshadowridge@... writes: While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your pain, pills, doctors or other medical crapâ€â€¦. I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay†is like saying, don’t talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: _Hugs-N-Pain _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ) [mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ) ] On Beh Of donnie Gibbs Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM To: _Hugs-N-Pain _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ) Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " _mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <_mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ) <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: _donnie3024@..._ (mailto:donnie3024@...) <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > To: _mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 ooh that's crap no one can harass u off line unless u give them the information In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:57:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donnie3024@... writes: i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self don't flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " _mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) " <_mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ) > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: _donnie3024@..._ (mailto:donnie3024@...) > To: _mnbranch08@..._ (mailto:mnbranch08@...) > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I understand about not being a babysitter and having a rough year…..and if I can help with the list, I’d be more than happy to. My only real complaint is that we should all be adult enough to treat our fellow list-mates with respect…for everyone. You can disagree with someone, and that is bound to happen, and do so in a respectful manner. When a person is incapable of showing respect, then doing something in the interest of peace on the list seems like a good idea. I do appreciate all you do…and I have blocked Donnie’s posts already….but I hate to see others hurt by a lack of maturity and respect. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Behalf Of starlyin@... Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:39 PM To: Hugs-N-Pain Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ I dont have a problem with lesbians or gays but I have been judged by some for being straight but we have had this list a long time and I am not a babysitter u can block someone on the list and not see what they say if u like this has been a rough year for me In a message dated 1/23/2011 9:01:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, myshadowridge@... <mailto:myshadowridge%40yahoo.com> writes: While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your pain, pills, doctors or other medical crapâ€â€¦. I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay†is like saying, don’t talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) [mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] On Beh Of donnie Gibbs Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <_mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: _donnie3024@... <mailto:_donnie3024%40yahoo.com> _ (mailto:donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> ) <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > To: _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I think that Shaun meant Donnie was harassing her off LIST, not offline. Since whenever a email shows up in my box, the person’s email is clearly displayed. That gives anyone the ability to take harassment off list…..which is what (correct me if I’m wrong, Shaun) is what was meant. BUT, just to be clear…with ½ hour, $10 and an email address, you can find the offline information you want on someone. There are places on the web that you can search for people and get their address, phone number and often even other personal information quickly and cheaply online. Marta, AR If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Behalf Of starlyin@... Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:44 PM To: Hugs-N-Pain Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ ooh that's crap no one can harass u off line unless u give them the information In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:57:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> writes: i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self don't flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > alcoholic. > > Sandy > > ________________________________ > From: " _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) " <_mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > harrassing me offline too... > > Love and Peace > Always > Shaun and Barb > > ____________________________________ > From: _donnie3024@... <mailto:_donnie3024%40yahoo.com> _ (mailto:donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> ) > To: _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > Subj: (no subject) > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > dont like it donnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I will tell you something I would rather be a lesbian than have a man in my life as all they do is put you down and say nasty things, your email has just proved that, if people want to talk about being a lesbian or gay than it's up to them they are not going to stop posting things just because it upsets you, I don't know who you think you are but I do know you need to go back to school and learn how to write sentences. If I was in charge of this group I would of gotten rid of you a long time ago as you don't deserve to be on any group if you are going to slag of lesbians and gays, they all have a heart and feelings and you haven't got the right to say nasty things about them. Sent from my iPhone x > i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying what i am lets get back on pain donnie > > > > > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > > > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > > alcoholic. > > > > Sandy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: donnie3024@... > > To: mnbranch08@... > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I totally agree with you tammi but he is not worth it don't leave the group because of his nasty mouth if you do that he has won Sent from my iPhone x > Over the years I have been a member of alot of groups, even moderated a few, > but this is the first time I have seen a group that lets a member make > personal attacks on other members and still remain within the group. This > is not about who is lesbian and who is not, its about a member who is > completely intolerant and yet able to remain within the group to further > spread his hate. This life is full of enough drama and those of us who > suffer with pain come here for support....your kind of bigotry and > homophobia has no place here or anywhere, but since it is allowed I will > withdrawl my membership from the group. > > > > > -- Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: donnie3024@... > > To: mnbranch08@... > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for > wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Don't you think it's a bit late to say sorry after what you have said Sent from my iPhone x > marta you are 100 rite i am sorry barb and shauwn you two are lucky to have each other i wish you 2 the best i it is inportent to have are mates i amlike marta i am getting ready for to have a stemulater put in i dont need all this i am moveing on marta willlike hereing this good by everbody barb and shauwn i am rilly sorry i sead stuff i should not have > > > > > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a member > > > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple of > > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs (pain > > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share of > > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When they > > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > > alcoholic. > > > > Sandy > > > > ________________________________ > > From: " mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > > To: Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > > To: mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 You seriously need to get rid of this ---- sorry he isn't a man Sent from my iPhone x > I understand about not being a babysitter and having a rough year…..and if I can help with the list, I’d be more than happy to. My only real complaint is that we should all be adult enough to treat our fellow list-mates with respect…for everyone. You can disagree with someone, and that is bound to happen, and do so in a respectful manner. When a person is incapable of showing respect, then doing something in the interest of peace on the list seems like a good idea. > > I do appreciate all you do…and I have blocked Donnie’s posts already….but I hate to see others hurt by a lack of maturity and respect. > > Marta, AR > > If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine > > From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Behalf Of starlyin@... > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:39 PM > To: Hugs-N-Pain > Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ > > I dont have a problem with lesbians or gays but I have been judged by some > for being straight but we have had this list a long time and I am not a > babysitter u can block someone on the list and not see what they say if u > like this has been a rough year for me > > In a message dated 1/23/2011 9:01:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > myshadowridge@... <mailto:myshadowridge%40yahoo.com> writes: > > While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. > We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I > have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their > heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their > marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about > things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or > not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. > > IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t > think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes > talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and > how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s > found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and > if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a > great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being > in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s > one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our > families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they > just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I > know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your > pain, pills, doctors or other medical crapâ€â€¦. > > I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who > can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting > love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I > think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which > can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. > > But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay†is like saying, don’t > talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share > what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us > what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and > all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. > > While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to > me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, > being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get > from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. > > Marta, AR > > If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine > > From: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > [mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] > On Beh Of donnie Gibbs > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ > > i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep > it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon > what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are > gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is > that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the > ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying > what i am lets get back on pain donnie > > > > > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a > member > > > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple > of > > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs > (pain > > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share > of > > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When > they > > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > > alcoholic. > > > > Sandy > > > > ________________________________ > > From: " _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <_mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: _donnie3024@... <mailto:_donnie3024%40yahoo.com> _ (mailto:donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> ) > <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > > To: _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians > and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for > wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most > everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I am already in enough pain. It is additional pain to read about people having differences on the group based on sex preference. Lets all take a deep breath and remember that understanding and comforting folks whose lives are disrupted by nagging chronic pain is the whole reason for the group. Everything else is just who we are. God's blessings to you all. To: Hugs-N-Pain From: lisa.turner851@... Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:49:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ You seriously need to get rid of this ---- sorry he isn't a man Sent from my iPhone x > I understand about not being a babysitter and having a rough year…..and if I can help with the list, I’d be more than happy to. My only real complaint is that we should all be adult enough to treat our fellow list-mates with respect…for everyone. You can disagree with someone, and that is bound to happen, and do so in a respectful manner. When a person is incapable of showing respect, then doing something in the interest of peace on the list seems like a good idea. > > I do appreciate all you do…and I have blocked Donnie’s posts already….but I hate to see others hurt by a lack of maturity and respect. > > Marta, AR > > If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine > > From: Hugs-N-Pain [mailto:Hugs-N-Pain ] On Behalf Of starlyin@... > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:39 PM > To: Hugs-N-Pain > Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ > > I dont have a problem with lesbians or gays but I have been judged by some > for being straight but we have had this list a long time and I am not a > babysitter u can block someone on the list and not see what they say if u > like this has been a rough year for me > > In a message dated 1/23/2011 9:01:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > myshadowridge@... <mailto:myshadowridge%40yahoo.com> writes: > > While advertising may not have been acceptable, talking about our lives is. > We’re here for support, and receiving support and giving support is what I > have always believed this list is for. People have talked about their > heterosexual partners a lot….I’ve even read certain people talking about their > marital separations, affairs, etc. We are friends and friends talk about > things. Being a lesbian, or gay is not something that should be ignored or > not allowed to be talked about. It’s part of our lives. > > IF we are not allowed to talk about anything other than our pain, I don’t > think that’s possible. Pain affects our lives, in every way and sometimes > talking about how our partners (heterosexual, homosexual or otherwise) and > how that effects our pain is important. I’m thrilled for Shaun that she’s > found her partner, Barb……finding someone to love is a wonderful thing, and > if that person understands our pain, or even shares it, while that is not a > great thing, it’s a way that people can connect to. I can’t imagine being > in this amount of pain and not having people who can support me…that’s > one of the reasons this group is so wonderful…it’s support. Sometimes our > families (at least I think so) tend to get overwhelmed by our issues…they > just can’t deal. Even though my daughter has her own issues, there are times I > know she’s thinking “can we just talk about SOMETHING other than your > pain, pills, doctors or other medical crap”…. > > I think it’s wonderful, Shaun that you’ve found another woman to love who > can understand what you’re dealing with. Finding love, true accepting > love, is really difficult for anyone…but for those of us who live in pain, I > think it’s even more difficult. We have to consider our partners needs, which > can be difficult when we’re so caught up in our own. > > But saying “don’t talk about being a lesbian/gay” is like saying, don’t > talk about your husband/wife, children, family, pets, etc. How can we share > what we’re going through if we’re not allowed to talk about what makes us > what we are. We are MORE than the pain we are in…we are people too….and > all the things in our lives help to make us who we are. > > While I can see the no advertising other lists (that just makes sense to > me), not referring to parts of our lives that effect us (like our partners, > being lesbian, Latino, pets, etc) would stop much of the support we get > from this list. Just my opinion, of course….but it makes sense to me. > > Marta, AR > > If you cannot be a poet, be the poem. ~ Carradine > > From: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > [mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] > On Beh Of donnie Gibbs > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 6:58 PM > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > Subject: Re: Fwd: (no subject)/ > > i am sorry for the ones i upset if you are a lesbian or gay keep it keep > it to you self dont flont it ask for lesbian moteraters all i am old fashon > what one dose stays behind doors i thout this was a pain group if you are > gay or a lesbian keep it to your self i didnot start this lesbian stuff is > that all everbody wants to talk about it inbareses me i am sorry for the > ones i ofended why cant people keep it to them selfs you dont here me saying > what i am lets get back on pain donnie > > > > > I'm curious why he has suddenly gotten so mean & rude. I haven't been a > member > > > for very long, but it did somewhat shock me when I read his first couple > of > > postings that were so disgusting. Do you think perhaps it's the drugs > (pain > > meds) that he's taking? I know it's no excuse, but I have seen my share > of > > " controlled substance " abusers that make people act like heathens. When > they > > take so many, it's no different (maybe even worse) than an abusive, mean > > alcoholic. > > > > Sandy > > > > ________________________________ > > From: " _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> " <_mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > > To: _Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:_Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> _ (mailto:Hugs-N-Pain <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> ) > <mailto:Hugs-N-Pain%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 1:59:29 AM > > Subject: Fwd: (no subject) > > > > > > This is what im talking about he is rude, uncaring and now he is > > harrassing me offline too... > > > > Love and Peace > > Always > > Shaun and Barb > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: _donnie3024@... <mailto:_donnie3024%40yahoo.com> _ (mailto:donnie3024@... <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> ) > <mailto:donnie3024%40yahoo.com> > > To: _mnbranch08@... <mailto:_mnbranch08%40aol.com> _ (mailto:mnbranch08@... <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> ) > <mailto:mnbranch08%40aol.com> > > Sent: 1/22/2011 11:58:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > > Subj: (no subject) > > > > hi barb and shauwn you 2 are probly 2 nice gals i just thank lesbians > and > > gays need to stay in the closet it is a sin god didnot make wemon for > wemen > > or men for men it is perverted what lesbians and gays do all most > everbody > > dont like it donnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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