Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 The day before Mom died I noticed her throat was coated in white. When I showed the nurse, she swabbed it and showed me it was pure white saliva. Mom had stopped swallowing completely by then. I wonder if swabbing it out for your Mom would be more or less of a discomfort for her. > > In response to the problems Mom has with mucus, the doctors offered this > explanation which makes perfect sense and also explains why the usual meds > one takes for those problems don't help her. Drs. Severt and San Luciano > explained to us that just as the LBD has slowed down all of Mom's other > autonomic functions, she no longer swallows as often as a normal person. So > the saliva, mucus, food particles, etc. all build up at the back of her > throat until there is so much there that she has to spit it up. She feels > like it is post nasal drip build up and that's what we thought because we > had no other explanation, but this makes perfect sense including why when > she does swallow all that she ends up with a queasy stomach. They also > recommended natural crystallized ginger candy (I found some on Amazon.com) > to help settle her stomach. > > I emailed Dr. San Luciano at 9:00 Tuesday night to thank them for the > wonderful experience Tuesday morning and to ask about prognosis which I did > not want to ask about in front of Mom. Her response was in my email box > when I got up Wednesday morning!! WOW!!! I've put her response about Mom > below. My Mom was an extremely athletic person all her life and up until > the LBD hit hard she walked several miles a day, rode her bike several miles > a day, and swam every day. Even now, with my oldest daughter's help, we get > her out for a walk of a 1/2 mile to a mile every day. It's a slow walk, but > still a walk and that is the best way to preserve motor function and to > prevent pneumonia, blood clots, etc. (Or as I said to my husband, Mom has > taken such good care of her body that it will long outlive her brain and I > don't think she ever wanted that.) > > Anyway, here is the doctor's response to me about Mom's prognosis: > > >>The question about the future is at the same time the most important > question that most of our patients and relatives would like to have answers > to, and at the same time, the most difficult for us to answer. Everybody is > quite different with this condition and it is hard to predict what the > future will bring. We know from prior experience that the disease will > progress, leading to further loss of cognitive function, but how fast and > how much it is really hard to say. We usually look to what has happened in > the past for a specific patient in order to make assumptions for the future. > So that the rate of progression that you have observed over the past few > years is probably what will happen in the next few years. I think that > considering that her motor function is quite well preserved, she will be > able to function well for a long time. << > > Gladys > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 wow! I was telling the doctor that the " mucus " is pure white! That explains everything! I'll talk to Mom about the swabbing. Gladys -- Re: Fw: Prognosis and " post nasal drip " from the doctors The day before Mom died I noticed her throat was coated in white. When I showed the nurse, she swabbed it and showed me it was pure white saliva. Mom had stopped swallowing completely by then. I wonder if swabbing it out for your Mom would be more or less of a discomfort for her. > > In response to the problems Mom has with mucus, the doctors offered this > explanation which makes perfect sense and also explains why the usual meds > one takes for those problems don't help her. Drs. Severt and San Luciano > explained to us that just as the LBD has slowed down all of Mom's other > autonomic functions, she no longer swallows as often as a normal person. So > the saliva, mucus, food particles, etc. all build up at the back of her > throat until there is so much there that she has to spit it up. She feels > like it is post nasal drip build up and that's what we thought because we > had no other explanation, but this makes perfect sense including why when > she does swallow all that she ends up with a queasy stomach. They also > recommended natural crystallized ginger candy (I found some on Amazon.com) > to help settle her stomach. > > I emailed Dr. San Luciano at 9:00 Tuesday night to thank them for the > wonderful experience Tuesday morning and to ask about prognosis which I did > not want to ask about in front of Mom. Her response was in my email box > when I got up Wednesday morning!! WOW!!! I've put her response about Mom > below. My Mom was an extremely athletic person all her life and up until > the LBD hit hard she walked several miles a day, rode her bike several miles > a day, and swam every day. Even now, with my oldest daughter's help, we get > her out for a walk of a 1/2 mile to a mile every day. It's a slow walk, but > still a walk and that is the best way to preserve motor function and to > prevent pneumonia, blood clots, etc. (Or as I said to my husband, Mom has > taken such good care of her body that it will long outlive her brain and I > don't think she ever wanted that.) > > Anyway, here is the doctor's response to me about Mom's prognosis: > > >>The question about the future is at the same time the most important > question that most of our patients and relatives would like to have answers > to, and at the same time, the most difficult for us to answer. Everybody is > quite different with this condition and it is hard to predict what the > future will bring. We know from prior experience that the disease will > progress, leading to further loss of cognitive function, but how fast and > how much it is really hard to say. We usually look to what has happened in > the past for a specific patient in order to make assumptions for the future. > So that the rate of progression that you have observed over the past few > years is probably what will happen in the next few years. I think that > considering that her motor function is quite well preserved, she will be > able to function well for a long time. << > > Gladys > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Gladys, Part of it can be acid reflux possibly too? " stimtimminss " Sent by: To LBDcaregivers@yah LBDcaregivers oogroups.com cc Subject 04/10/2008 10:53 Re: Fw: Prognosis AM and " post nasal drip " from the doctors Please respond to LBDcaregivers@yah oogroups.com The day before Mom died I noticed her throat was coated in white. When I showed the nurse, she swabbed it and showed me it was pure white saliva. Mom had stopped swallowing completely by then. I wonder if swabbing it out for your Mom would be more or less of a discomfort for her. > > In response to the problems Mom has with mucus, the doctors offered this > explanation which makes perfect sense and also explains why the usual meds > one takes for those problems don't help her. Drs. Severt and San Luciano > explained to us that just as the LBD has slowed down all of Mom's other > autonomic functions, she no longer swallows as often as a normal person. So > the saliva, mucus, food particles, etc. all build up at the back of her > throat until there is so much there that she has to spit it up. She feels > like it is post nasal drip build up and that's what we thought because we > had no other explanation, but this makes perfect sense including why when > she does swallow all that she ends up with a queasy stomach. They also > recommended natural crystallized ginger candy (I found some on Amazon.com) > to help settle her stomach. > > I emailed Dr. San Luciano at 9:00 Tuesday night to thank them for the > wonderful experience Tuesday morning and to ask about prognosis which I did > not want to ask about in front of Mom. Her response was in my email box > when I got up Wednesday morning!! WOW!!! I've put her response about Mom > below. My Mom was an extremely athletic person all her life and up until > the LBD hit hard she walked several miles a day, rode her bike several miles > a day, and swam every day. Even now, with my oldest daughter's help, we get > her out for a walk of a 1/2 mile to a mile every day. It's a slow walk, but > still a walk and that is the best way to preserve motor function and to > prevent pneumonia, blood clots, etc. (Or as I said to my husband, Mom has > taken such good care of her body that it will long outlive her brain and I > don't think she ever wanted that.) > > Anyway, here is the doctor's response to me about Mom's prognosis: > > >>The question about the future is at the same time the most important > question that most of our patients and relatives would like to have answers > to, and at the same time, the most difficult for us to answer. Everybody is > quite different with this condition and it is hard to predict what the > future will bring. We know from prior experience that the disease will > progress, leading to further loss of cognitive function, but how fast and > how much it is really hard to say. We usually look to what has happened in > the past for a specific patient in order to make assumptions for the future. > So that the rate of progression that you have observed over the past few > years is probably what will happen in the next few years. I think that > considering that her motor function is quite well preserved, she will be > able to function well for a long time. << > > Gladys > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Also (though I'm sure the nurse and doctor would have known immediately), make sure it isn't Thrush. " Gladys Stefany " <agoramom@... > To Sent by: <LBDcaregivers > LBDcaregivers@yah cc oogroups.com Subject Re: Re: Fw: 04/10/2008 11:09 Prognosis and " post nasal drip " AM from the doctors Please respond to LBDcaregivers@yah oogroups.com wow! I was telling the doctor that the " mucus " is pure white! That explains everything! I'll talk to Mom about the swabbing. Gladys -- Re: Fw: Prognosis and " post nasal drip " from the doctors The day before Mom died I noticed her throat was coated in white. When I showed the nurse, she swabbed it and showed me it was pure white saliva. Mom had stopped swallowing completely by then. I wonder if swabbing it out for your Mom would be more or less of a discomfort for her. > > In response to the problems Mom has with mucus, the doctors offered this > explanation which makes perfect sense and also explains why the usual meds > one takes for those problems don't help her. Drs. Severt and San Luciano > explained to us that just as the LBD has slowed down all of Mom's other > autonomic functions, she no longer swallows as often as a normal person. So > the saliva, mucus, food particles, etc. all build up at the back of her > throat until there is so much there that she has to spit it up. She feels > like it is post nasal drip build up and that's what we thought because we > had no other explanation, but this makes perfect sense including why when > she does swallow all that she ends up with a queasy stomach. They also > recommended natural crystallized ginger candy (I found some on Amazon.com) > to help settle her stomach. > > I emailed Dr. San Luciano at 9:00 Tuesday night to thank them for the > wonderful experience Tuesday morning and to ask about prognosis which I did > not want to ask about in front of Mom. Her response was in my email box > when I got up Wednesday morning!! WOW!!! I've put her response about Mom > below. My Mom was an extremely athletic person all her life and up until > the LBD hit hard she walked several miles a day, rode her bike several miles > a day, and swam every day. Even now, with my oldest daughter's help, we get > her out for a walk of a 1/2 mile to a mile every day. It's a slow walk, but > still a walk and that is the best way to preserve motor function and to > prevent pneumonia, blood clots, etc. (Or as I said to my husband, Mom has > taken such good care of her body that it will long outlive her brain and I > don't think she ever wanted that.) > > Anyway, here is the doctor's response to me about Mom's prognosis: > > >>The question about the future is at the same time the most important > question that most of our patients and relatives would like to have answers > to, and at the same time, the most difficult for us to answer. Everybody is > quite different with this condition and it is hard to predict what the > future will bring. We know from prior experience that the disease will > progress, leading to further loss of cognitive function, but how fast and > how much it is really hard to say. We usually look to what has happened in > the past for a specific patient in order to make assumptions for the future. > So that the rate of progression that you have observed over the past few > years is probably what will happen in the next few years. I think that > considering that her motor function is quite well preserved, she will be > able to function well for a long time. << > > Gladys > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi Gladys, So great to hear that your Mom should be around for a long time. Mom's (Dads/Husband/Wives,etc.)are precious jewels that you just don't want to lose! LBDcaregivers , " Gladys Stefany " wrote: > > In response to the problems Mom has with mucus, the doctors offered this > explanation which makes perfect sense and also explains why the usual meds > one takes for those problems don't help her. Drs. Severt and San Luciano > explained to us that just as the LBD has slowed down all of Mom's other > autonomic functions, she no longer swallows as often as a normal person. So > the saliva, mucus, food particles, etc. all build up at the back of her > throat until there is so much there that she has to spit it up. She feels > like it is post nasal drip build up and that's what we thought because we > had no other explanation, but this makes perfect sense including why when > she does swallow all that she ends up with a queasy stomach. They also > recommended natural crystallized ginger candy (I found some on Amazon.com) > to help settle her stomach. > > I emailed Dr. San Luciano at 9:00 Tuesday night to thank them for the > wonderful experience Tuesday morning and to ask about prognosis which I did > not want to ask about in front of Mom. Her response was in my email box > when I got up Wednesday morning!! WOW!!! I've put her response about Mom > below. My Mom was an extremely athletic person all her life and up until > the LBD hit hard she walked several miles a day, rode her bike several miles > a day, and swam every day. Even now, with my oldest daughter's help, we get > her out for a walk of a 1/2 mile to a mile every day. It's a slow walk, but > still a walk and that is the best way to preserve motor function and to > prevent pneumonia, blood clots, etc. (Or as I said to my husband, Mom has > taken such good care of her body that it will long outlive her brain and I > don't think she ever wanted that.) > > Anyway, here is the doctor's response to me about Mom's prognosis: > > >>The question about the future is at the same time the most important > question that most of our patients and relatives would like to have answers > to, and at the same time, the most difficult for us to answer. Everybody is > quite different with this condition and it is hard to predict what the > future will bring. We know from prior experience that the disease will > progress, leading to further loss of cognitive function, but how fast and > how much it is really hard to say. We usually look to what has happened in > the past for a specific patient in order to make assumptions for the future. > So that the rate of progression that you have observed over the past few > years is probably what will happen in the next few years. I think that > considering that her motor function is quite well preserved, she will be > able to function well for a long time. << > > Gladys > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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