Vegetarian

[Guest guest]

That is ridiculous ~ that your child should be special needs because you are a

vegetarian Gee sounds like my family with their stupid idea that is

special needs because I am an X smoker (I quit months before I even conceived

her) or because I gardened..... SO long as you eat a well balanced diet I am of

the opinion that vegetarians are healthier (generally) but anyway ignore the

stupidity to the best of your ability because there's an aweful lot of it out

there!

Nidia (a vegetarian wanna~be)

grtchnwgnmn@... wrote:

I believe that food is somewhat of an issue but I do believe

alot is heredity.I was told by people that I had a special needs child

because I was a Vegetarian.Since everyone else I know isn't that has a

special needs child they shut up!!! Everyone who has no idea is an expert!!!

Gretchen From Missouri

[Guest guest]

Hi a

How long have you been a vegetarian and do you feel better? Do you eat fish?

Are you vegan? I'm ready to try anything at this point.

Thanks

Babs

[Guest guest]

Babs, I'm vegetarian. Have been for about 20 years now. I can't say

that I feel any better than before. i just never liked meat and

personally i preferred to see my steak grazing in the field

going " mooooo " . Since the RA I have tried to cut back on dairy, but

it hasn't made much difference for me, anyway.......Marina

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>

[Guest guest]

Babs, I'm vegetarian. Have been for about 20 years now. I can't say

that I feel any better than before. i just never liked meat and

personally i preferred to see my steak grazing in the field

going " mooooo " . Since the RA I have tried to cut back on dairy, but

it hasn't made much difference for me, anyway.......Marina

>

>

[Guest guest]

Babs,

I am not vegan, and doubt I ever would be although I believe we're all

supposed to be. I believe our bodies are designed to eat fruits,

vegetables and grains. I gave up meat and when I did, it rid me of

chronic constipation, bloating and gas. I also sleep better.

I feel LOTS better not eating meat. Yes, I eat fish 4-5 times a week.

My primary diet is vegetables, fruits, fish and grains. On occasion I

eat poultry. I've eliminated processed foods and eat a lot of raw

foods.

The only unhealthy things I haven't given up is my 2-3 cups of coffee a

day and ice cream.

There is a lot of controversy over the effect diet has on RA. There

are some people with allergies to additives, preservatives, artificial

sweeteners, wheat, soy etc that when eaten can cause reactions

including joint pain. My main reason for eating the way I do is to try

to avoid cancer, which is killing or has killed to many people that I

love.

a

On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:08 PM, jmorob@... wrote:

> Hi a

>

> How long have you been a vegetarian and do you feel better? Do you

> eat fish?

> Are you vegan? I'm ready to try anything at this point.

>

> Thanks

> Babs

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Babs,

I am not vegan, and doubt I ever would be although I believe we're all

supposed to be. I believe our bodies are designed to eat fruits,

vegetables and grains. I gave up meat and when I did, it rid me of

chronic constipation, bloating and gas. I also sleep better.

I feel LOTS better not eating meat. Yes, I eat fish 4-5 times a week.

My primary diet is vegetables, fruits, fish and grains. On occasion I

eat poultry. I've eliminated processed foods and eat a lot of raw

foods.

The only unhealthy things I haven't given up is my 2-3 cups of coffee a

day and ice cream.

There is a lot of controversy over the effect diet has on RA. There

are some people with allergies to additives, preservatives, artificial

sweeteners, wheat, soy etc that when eaten can cause reactions

including joint pain. My main reason for eating the way I do is to try

to avoid cancer, which is killing or has killed to many people that I

love.

a

On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:08 PM, jmorob@... wrote:

> Hi a

>

> How long have you been a vegetarian and do you feel better? Do you

> eat fish?

> Are you vegan? I'm ready to try anything at this point.

>

> Thanks

> Babs

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a,

I agree with your theory. You know my diet is so limited but I feel it is not

a bad diet. It is mostly veggies, crackers (not good I know) fish and fruit.

When I

stray from this diet I feel terrible. Whether it is the whipple or the ra

doesn't matter, I don't feel right. I have pretty much got my kids to eat

almost no meat

either. My son once told me, if people would eat like the hunters and gathers

their would probably be very little cancer and few other diseases. Who knows if

it is

true but it does makes sense.

Lynn (meMom)

a wrote:

> Babs,

>

> I am not vegan, and doubt I ever would be although I believe we're all

> supposed to be. I believe our bodies are designed to eat fruits,

> vegetables and grains. I gave up meat and when I did, it rid me of

> chronic constipation, bloating and gas. I also sleep better.

> I feel LOTS better not eating meat. Yes, I eat fish 4-5 times a week.

> My primary diet is vegetables, fruits, fish and grains. On occasion I

> eat poultry. I've eliminated processed foods and eat a lot of raw

> foods.

> The only unhealthy things I haven't given up is my 2-3 cups of coffee a

> day and ice cream.

>

> There is a lot of controversy over the effect diet has on RA. There

> are some people with allergies to additives, preservatives, artificial

> sweeteners, wheat, soy etc that when eaten can cause reactions

> including joint pain. My main reason for eating the way I do is to try

> to avoid cancer, which is killing or has killed to many people that I

> love.

>

> a

>

> On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:08 PM, jmorob@... wrote:

>

> > Hi a

> >

> > How long have you been a vegetarian and do you feel better? Do you

> > eat fish?

> > Are you vegan? I'm ready to try anything at this point.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Babs

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

a,

I agree with your theory. You know my diet is so limited but I feel it is not

a bad diet. It is mostly veggies, crackers (not good I know) fish and fruit.

When I

stray from this diet I feel terrible. Whether it is the whipple or the ra

doesn't matter, I don't feel right. I have pretty much got my kids to eat

almost no meat

either. My son once told me, if people would eat like the hunters and gathers

their would probably be very little cancer and few other diseases. Who knows if

it is

true but it does makes sense.

Lynn (meMom)

a wrote:

> Babs,

>

> I am not vegan, and doubt I ever would be although I believe we're all

> supposed to be. I believe our bodies are designed to eat fruits,

> vegetables and grains. I gave up meat and when I did, it rid me of

> chronic constipation, bloating and gas. I also sleep better.

> I feel LOTS better not eating meat. Yes, I eat fish 4-5 times a week.

> My primary diet is vegetables, fruits, fish and grains. On occasion I

> eat poultry. I've eliminated processed foods and eat a lot of raw

> foods.

> The only unhealthy things I haven't given up is my 2-3 cups of coffee a

> day and ice cream.

>

> There is a lot of controversy over the effect diet has on RA. There

> are some people with allergies to additives, preservatives, artificial

> sweeteners, wheat, soy etc that when eaten can cause reactions

> including joint pain. My main reason for eating the way I do is to try

> to avoid cancer, which is killing or has killed to many people that I

> love.

>

> a

>

> On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:08 PM, jmorob@... wrote:

>

> > Hi a

> >

> > How long have you been a vegetarian and do you feel better? Do you

> > eat fish?

> > Are you vegan? I'm ready to try anything at this point.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Babs

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> What is the best way for a vegetarian to go about this diet. Without

> eating tofu, or legumes, where do I get my protein from? I do eat

> eggs, but I don't think I could eat that many. Would organic tofu be

> ok?

==>Hi there. Welcome to our group. There are many former vegetarians

on our group who saw the wisdom in providing all of the nutrients their

bodies needed in order to achieve good health by eating meats,

particularly B12, oil soluble vitamins and other nutrients only found

in meats. See these articles about the dangers of vegetarianism:

http://www.westonaprice.org/tour/vegtourindex.html

==>Tofu is soy which is a food that is very damagning to the body; see

these articles:

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/WestonAPriceFoundation?q=soy

Afterall humans are omnivores so they are adapted to eat plant foods

and meats. We do not have 5 stomachs like cows nor chew our cud to

enable us to break down plant foods and we do not have digestive

enzymes to break down certain substances in plants. In fact fibres in

plant foods are damaging to the digestive tract, speed up digestion too

fast so nutrients cannot be absorbed like nature intended - see these

articles: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2.php

Please do a search of our message archives using the words vegan or

vegetarian to see what other people have done and why they are now

eating meats.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > What is the best way for a vegetarian to go about this diet. Without

> > eating tofu, or legumes, where do I get my protein from? I do eat

> > eggs, but I don't think I could eat that many. Would organic tofu be

> > ok?

>

--> I thought I would chime in because I am a former vegetarian and

raw foodist. I tried to modify Bee's program without meat (just a lot

of eggs), but it just didn't work. I began eating meat again at the

beginning of 2007 and I have progressed so much more -- I really

cannot believe it. I was plagued with candida in the form of chronic

conjunctivitis, sinus problems, etc. -- and after a rather wicked

first month, I am finally feeling the best I have in three years. I

never felt very good on a vegetarian/raw food diet, and I never looked

very healthy either. I finally feel like I am starting to look

healthier now.

Anyhow, hope that helps.

Best,

[Guest guest]

>

>

> --> I thought I would chime in because I am a former vegetarian and

> raw foodist. I tried to modify Bee's program without meat (just a

lot

> of eggs), but it just didn't work. I began eating meat again at the

> beginning of 2007 and I have progressed so much more -- I really

> cannot believe it. I was plagued with candida in the form of

chronic

> conjunctivitis, sinus problems, etc. -- and after a rather wicked

> first month, I am finally feeling the best I have in three years. I

> never felt very good on a vegetarian/raw food diet, and I never

looked

> very healthy either. I finally feel like I am starting to look

> healthier now.

>

> Anyhow, hope that helps.

>

> Best,

>

>

Hi,

I thought I'd chime in, too since I can really relate to 's

experience. (I know a bunch of you have probably heard the story

before, but I hope it will help new folks.) I was raw for close to

2 years but never felt as good as the books said I would. In the

beginning I included raw meat, raw eggs, and raw dairy - but

eventually it became too expensive and too cumbersome to keep it

up. I eventually got to a point I was pretty much vegetarian. I

really felt awful then. And people around me were commenting that I

was getting too skinny and didn't look well. Looking back now, I

think I was bordering on malnourishment. Everywhere I went, people

were telling me to eat something.

When I started Bee's plan, I was gladly added meat back into my

diet, but now I'm cooking some of it, as the work involved in

properly storing and preparing raw meat is too much sometimes.

Anyway, now that I'm back on meat, people around me have really

noticed I'm looking better now. And the most important part - I

feel better!!

If you don't mind me asking, what were your reasons for becoming

vegetarian? The reason I ask is because, depending on the reason,

you might realize there are options. For example, I have one

vegetarian friend who read a book called The Poisons in Your Food

(or something like that) in the 70's and has been vegetarian ever

since. For her, it's not about ethical reasons, it's about the

disgusting stuff in most meat now (drugs, anitibiotics, etc). Well,

now that healthfood stores are popping up everywhere and online

sources are more readily available, it's possible to get much better

quality meat than you find in the grocery store.

Hope this helps

in Tennessee